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I don't sell health/vitamin/nutrition supplements, etc, but if one is considering

them, doesn't Germany have quality controls that our FDA and Dept of Agriculture

don't have? That might be a criteria to base judgment on.Timps - I do sell, and use myself, Obagi Skin products, and even to my mother!

;-) Ethically, I think it is fine, feel that most of the patients do great

with them and don't " push " them at all, or even enough perhaps. > On Sun, February 1, 2009 3:00 pm EST,

Graham Chiu wrote:> > > Oh

yeah ... I am assuming you don't have testicles, and don't breath> while

wearing the stuff.> > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Jean

Antonucci wrote:> > I mean now we are talkin Graham ! I need all

the protection from evil> > spells that I can get...> >> > I got soot> > creosote is dangerous stuff Causes cancer

dontcha know?> >> >> > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at

2:43 PM, Graham Chiu wrote:> >>> >>>

>>

http://ezinearticles.com/?Kohl---The-Precursor-to-Modern-Mascara & id=1392963> >>> >> Ancient Egyptians and bronze age people used

Mascara to protect the> >> eyes from small biting insects, and then

later on to provide> >> protection against evil spells.>

>>> >> So, if you wish, you could find some soot lying around

and make your own.> >>> >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:32

AM, Graham Chiu wrote:> >> > Jean> >> >> >> > I did a few quick searches on pubmed, and only found references

to> >> > dermatitis, pigmentation etc but no health benefits and

definitely no> >> > placebo controlled double blind prospective

studies.> >> >> >> > I suggest you remove it

from your purse until we have better evidence.> >> > We really

don't want to compromise our integrity.> >> >> >>

> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:46 AM, > >> >

wrote:> >> >> MAscara ok, though graham?> >>

>>> >> >>> >> >>> >>

>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Graham Chiu> >> >>

wrote:> >> >>>> >> >>> Not for me.

My mother was always buying supplements, and then was> >>

>>> threatening to buy colloidal silver :(> >>

>>>> >> >>> BTW, I hope the female members here who

are fiercely opposed to> >> >>> selling supplements don't

use or purchase cosmetics that promise to> >> >>> revitalize

their skin!> >> >>>> >> >>> On Mon,

Feb 2, 2009 at 7:02 AM, > >> >>> wrote:> >> >>> > I thought the best test is> >>

>>> > would you give it to your mother?> >> >>>

>> >> >>> > Jean> >> >>>

>> >> >>> > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 12:36 PM,

> >> >>> >> >> >>> >

wrote:> >> >>> >>> >> >>>

>> Ethical? Consistent with best interest of patient? Test; would you> >> >>> >> still sell them if you were not making a

profit at it ?> >> >>> >>> >>

>>> >> > >> >>>

>> > It is good to know. I don't sell them in bulk but just offer one> >> >>> >> > vial> >> >>>

>> > and> >> >>> >> > then tell pts to get

more in a health food store.> >> >>> >> > What made

you switch from being a vet? Was it difficult? Inga> >> >>>

>> >> >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> >> From:

joanne holland> >> >>> >> > Subject: Re:

Re: selling supplements> >> >>>

>> > To: > >>

>>> >> > Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 9:32 PM>

>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>

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>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>

> I think this has been covered on the list serve before: I come in>

>> >>> >> > on> >> >>> >> >

the side of " Don't Do It. " For thirty years I was a veterinarian>

>> >>> >> > and> >> >>> >>

> they> >> >>> >> > sell lots of stuff over the

counter, all of it things they think> >> >>> >> >

people> >> >>> >> > need.> >>

>>> >> > At the end of my practice life, I bothered to calculate

out how> >> >>> >> > much> >>

>>> >> > I> >> >>> >> > had made

on it carrying medicine, vitamins and prescription> >> >>>

>> > feeds.> >> >>> >> > Given>

>> >>> >> > expiration dates, lost stuff, wrong stuff,

damaged stuff, time,> >> >>> >> > inventory,> >> >>> >> > taxes on inventory, lost income on

investment money and cash flow> >> >>> >> >

problems:> >> >>> >> > it came out to $1.25 an hour

profit. You would be happier if you> >> >>> >> >

hit> >> >>> >> > yourself on the head with a hammer

for ten minutes a month.> >> >>> >> >>

>> >>> >> > Most Sincerely,> >> >>>

>> > Joanne Holland> >> >>> >> >>

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>>> > --> >> >>> > If you are a patient

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email/> >> >>> > please note the new email address.> >> >>> > Remember that e-mail may not be entirely

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ME 04938> >> >>> > ph fax > >> >>> > impcenter.org> >> >>>

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>> >>> --> >> >>> Graham Chiu>

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