Guest guest Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 I don't sell health/vitamin/nutrition supplements, etc, but if one is considering them, doesn't Germany have quality controls that our FDA and Dept of Agriculture don't have? That might be a criteria to base judgment on.Timps - I do sell, and use myself, Obagi Skin products, and even to my mother! ;-) Ethically, I think it is fine, feel that most of the patients do great with them and don't " push " them at all, or even enough perhaps. > On Sun, February 1, 2009 3:00 pm EST, Graham Chiu wrote:> > > Oh yeah ... I am assuming you don't have testicles, and don't breath> while wearing the stuff.> > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Jean Antonucci wrote:> > I mean now we are talkin Graham ! I need all the protection from evil> > spells that I can get...> >> > I got soot> > creosote is dangerous stuff Causes cancer dontcha know?> >> >> > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Graham Chiu wrote:> >>> >>> >> http://ezinearticles.com/?Kohl---The-Precursor-to-Modern-Mascara & id=1392963> >>> >> Ancient Egyptians and bronze age people used Mascara to protect the> >> eyes from small biting insects, and then later on to provide> >> protection against evil spells.> >>> >> So, if you wish, you could find some soot lying around and make your own.> >>> >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Graham Chiu wrote:> >> > Jean> >> >> >> > I did a few quick searches on pubmed, and only found references to> >> > dermatitis, pigmentation etc but no health benefits and definitely no> >> > placebo controlled double blind prospective studies.> >> >> >> > I suggest you remove it from your purse until we have better evidence.> >> > We really don't want to compromise our integrity.> >> >> >> > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:46 AM, > >> > wrote:> >> >> MAscara ok, though graham?> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Graham Chiu> >> >> wrote:> >> >>>> >> >>> Not for me. My mother was always buying supplements, and then was> >> >>> threatening to buy colloidal silver > >> >>>> >> >>> BTW, I hope the female members here who are fiercely opposed to> >> >>> selling supplements don't use or purchase cosmetics that promise to> >> >>> revitalize their skin!> >> >>>> >> >>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:02 AM, > >> >>> wrote:> >> >>> > I thought the best test is> >> >>> > would you give it to your mother?> >> >>> >> >> >>> > Jean> >> >>> >> >> >>> > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 12:36 PM, > >> >>> >> >> >>> > wrote:> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >> Ethical? Consistent with best interest of patient? Test; would you> >> >>> >> still sell them if you were not making a profit at it ?> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > It is good to know. I don't sell them in bulk but just offer one> >> >>> >> > vial> >> >>> >> > and> >> >>> >> > then tell pts to get more in a health food store.> >> >>> >> > What made you switch from being a vet? Was it difficult? Inga> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> >> From: joanne holland> >> >>> >> > Subject: Re: Re: selling supplements> >> >>> >> > To: > >> >>> >> > Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 9:32 PM> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > I think this has been covered on the list serve before: I come in> >> >>> >> > on> >> >>> >> > the side of " Don't Do It. " For thirty years I was a veterinarian> >> >>> >> > and> >> >>> >> > they> >> >>> >> > sell lots of stuff over the counter, all of it things they think> >> >>> >> > people> >> >>> >> > need.> >> >>> >> > At the end of my practice life, I bothered to calculate out how> >> >>> >> > much> >> >>> >> > I> >> >>> >> > had made on it carrying medicine, vitamins and prescription> >> >>> >> > feeds.> >> >>> >> > Given> >> >>> >> > expiration dates, lost stuff, wrong stuff, damaged stuff, time,> >> >>> >> > inventory,> >> >>> >> > taxes on inventory, lost income on investment money and cash flow> >> >>> >> > problems:> >> >>> >> > it came out to $1.25 an hour profit. You would be happier if you> >> >>> >> > hit> >> >>> >> > yourself on the head with a hammer for ten minutes a month.> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > Most Sincerely,> >> >>> >> > Joanne Holland> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> > --> >> >>> > If you are a patient please allow up to 24 hours for a reply by> >> >>> > email/> >> >>> > please note the new email address.> >> >>> > Remember that e-mail may not be entirely secure/> >> >>> > MD> >> >>> > > >> >>> > Farmington ME 04938> >> >>> > ph fax > >> >>> > impcenter.org> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> --> >> >>> Graham Chiu> >> >>> http://www.synapsedirect.com> >> >>> Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR.> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> --> >> >> If you are a patient please allow up to 24 hours for a reply by email/> >> >> please note the new email address.> >> >> Remember that e-mail may not be entirely secure/> >> >> MD> >> >> 115 Mt Blue Circle> >> >> > >> >> ph fax > >> >> impcenter.org> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > --> >> > Graham Chiu> >> > http://www.synapsedirect.com> >> > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR.> >> >> >>> >> --> >> Graham Chiu> >> http://www.synapsedirect.com> >> Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR.> >> >> >> > --> > If you are a patient please allow up to 24 hours for a reply by email/> > please note the new email address.> > Remember that e-mail may not be entirely secure/> > MD> > 115 Mt Blue Circle> > > > ph fax > > impcenter.org> >> >> > > > --> Graham Chiu> http://www.synapsedirect.com> Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR.> > ------------------------------------> > Yahoo! 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