Re: Growing Carrot Sprouts

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On the matter of raw greens...have you tried using collard or kale as wraps in

place of tortillas? ummmmm I've not tried kale like this but collards are

scrumptous. Bet kale would be, too.

(Obviously, remove the thick stem first)

Tina

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> I am open to the idea that carrot sprouts might be sweet, but I still don't

see myself eating the mature greens ;)But raw kale is really another,

indisputable matter  (for me) It makes a great salad!Give it a try and see

what you think. If you don't like it, you can cook it. marionhappy to be home

early tonight

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hehehe...yes, we Southerners love our bacon fat! I'd choose bacon fat over

" vegetable oil " any day. I also hate faux food or manufactured food--go for the

real thing. But, for those who prefer to go vegetarian, olive oil makes a decent

replacement in the cooking of greens.

And, ummm...where do you hike? I did several backpacking trips a few years ago,

then got really sick. Now, I'm on the road to recovery and my big goal is to

backpack in the GSMNP next year.

Tina

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> lol, you must not be from the South. Bacon fat is STAPLE that I will never go

without(God willing).

> I make up for it by hiking often. A little fat never hurt anyone!

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> Toni

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No offense taken. I've gone back and forth on the issue. Currently, I only eat

humanely raised animal products (or in the case of fish--wild caught opposed to

farm raised)--local humanely raised.... Since I can't afford much of the

humanely raised...I don't eat much animal products.

Tina

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> Toni,You are right, I am not from the South. I grew up in New Jersey and in

New York.But I grew up eating meat, bacon, and cheese everyday. I am a vegan

and don't touch anything that comes from an animal. Even the soap in my house is

not animal based. It is a moral choice--once I learned of how animals are bred,

raised, and slaughtered I decided I could not support those industries or their

suffering. I have a tee shirt that I am fond of wearing that quotes Kafka: " Now

I can look at you in peace, I don't eat you anymore " it has pictures of farm

animals on it. I feel alot better this way too. I don't miss real bacon

 No offence intended to anyone who eats meat. This is just my

perspective.marion

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Hi Melody,

I have read The China Study. It definitely points to the value of keeping animal

proteins to a minimum. Do keep in mind that epidemiological studies do have

their flaws--namely that it is actually difficult to measure all the factors

involved in the results being measured. In this case, it is as easy to suggest

that the results are due to level of exercise, level of processed foods, and

probably a handful of other possible " causes " of the " effects " measured.

Having said that, there are other studies which also links animal protein to the

" diseases of affluence " . Note that I said " links " rather than cause/effect since

that is harder to determine that to simply show links between two factors.

Again, these studies are not double-blind controlled studies. Nutrition is in

the early stages of scientific study and we have much still to learn. What is

clear is that keeping processed foods out of diet, keeping calories low, and

daily exercise are important to avoid the " diseases of affluence " .

Tina

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New York.But I grew up eating meat, bacon, and cheese everyday. I am a vegan

and don't touch anything that comes from an animal. Even the soap in my house is

not animal based. It is a moral choice--once I learned of how animals are bred,

raised, and slaughtered I decided I could not support those industries or their

suffering. I have a tee shirt that I am fond of wearing that quotes Kafka: " Now

I can look at you in peace, I don't eat you anymore " it has pictures of farm

animals on it. I feel alot better this way too. I don't miss real bacon

 No offence intended to anyone who eats meat. This is just my

perspective.marion

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[Guest guest]

Oh, don't even get me started on what they serve as school lunches! After

reading " Food Politics " by Nestle, I have no faith in our government to give a

rip about the health of Americans...not even our children! It's all about

money...money...money.

Any food that can sit on the shelf for years and not " go bad " is not real food.

If microbes can not find something worth eating on it, there isn't anything to

nourish us, either!

Okay, stepping off my soapbox...backing away slowly...breathing deeply of the

wisteria...

Tina

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> > > Toni,You are right, I am not from the South. I grew up in New Jersey and

in New York.But I grew up eating meat, bacon, and cheese everyday. I am a

vegan and don't touch anything that comes from an animal. Even the soap in my

house is not animal based. It is a moral choice--once I learned of how animals

are bred, raised, and slaughtered I decided I could not support those industries

or their suffering. I have a tee shirt that I am fond of wearing that quotes

Kafka: " Now I can look at you in peace, I don't eat you anymore " it has pictures

of farm animals on it. I feel alot better this way too. I don't

miss real bacon  No offence intended to anyone who eats meat. This is

just my perspective.marion

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Amen, sister!

Tina

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> Only eat food that rots and dies.

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> Sounds horrible, but it will keep us healthy. At least that's my goal.

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[Guest guest]

Many folk who have turned vegetarian say that bacon is what they miss most, but

personally I find even the smell of it somewhat nauseating.

Olive oil is not recommended for cooking as it oxidises (turns rancid) very

easily. Coconut oil is the healthy option.

Mike

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To: sproutpeople

Sent: Fri, 25 March, 2011 3:08:26

Subject: Re: Growing Carrot Sprouts

 

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lol, you must not be from the South. Bacon fat is STAPLE that I will never go

without(God willing).

I make up for it by hiking often. A little fat never hurt anyone!

Toni

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>Kate, 1 TB mustard.Odd mix, but I really like it.If you google broccoli sprouts

>and health benefits, you will be amazed at how good they are for you.My Mom,

>also named n, died of colon cancer and my Dad of leukemia, so I not only

>eat broccoli sprouts myself, I buy broccoli seeds for friends and

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>if you have or get cancer, it can only help! marion

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[Guest guest]

Well, Melody, herein lies the rub: statistics can be made to support anything.

As I mentioned, The China Study attempts to use a few points of data to come to

a single conclusion: that eating animal protein is the single cause of the

" diseases of affluence " . Problem is, life isn't that simple. Using the same set

of data, one could say that exercise is the key. Or, processed foods. Or, air

quality. There are just too many factors to be so bold as to say " this " causes

" that " from an epidemiological study...or even a set of epidemiological studies.

The " gold standard " for scientific studies are controlled, double-blind studies.

This is a bit difficult to achieve in nutrition studies other than in lab

animals.

Tina

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Melody,

Man has been eating animal protein since he started walking upright. A well

balanced diet of meat and vegetable protein isn't the problem. Cancers have only

been on the rise in the past 30 years and certainly man has been eating animal

protein way longer than 30 years. Most cancers are caused by genetics and or

lifestyle, processed foods filled with chemicals and hormones, etc...which is

why buying organic or farming your own food is the way to go if you can do it.

But eating meat is hardly the entire problem.

That book you're reading sounds more like propaganda than actual research.

Toni

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My husband loves to say " 83% of all statistics are made up on the spot " .

He gets a kick out of that.

Beverly

Texas

Re: Growing Carrot Sprouts

Well, Melody, herein lies the rub: statistics can be made to support

anything. As I mentioned, The China Study attempts to use a few points of

data to come to a single conclusion: that eating animal protein is the

single cause of the " diseases of affluence " . Problem is, life isn't that

simple. Using the same set of data, one could say that exercise is the key.

Or, processed foods. Or, air quality. There are just too many factors to be

so bold as to say " this " causes " that " from an epidemiological study...or

even a set of epidemiological studies. The " gold standard " for scientific

studies are controlled, double-blind studies. This is a bit difficult to

achieve in nutrition studies other than in lab animals.

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I will ew, thanks for letting me know. We have to get our made up

statistics correct.

Beverly

Fw: Re: Growing Carrot Sprouts

My husband loves to say " 83% of all statistics are made up on the spot " .

He gets a kick out of that.

Beverly

Texas

[Guest guest]

Just an update on those carrot sprouts if anyone was curious --

They sprouted successfully, for about 16 days. The sprouts were slender, frilly,

and lightly sweet and carrot-y, not at all bitter.

I did enjoy them just for the novelty but they'd be rather a spendy sprout for

routine use. Plus the time needed to sprout is a factor. I wonder what it would

be like to have onion, celery, and carrot sprouts together though...

Molly

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> Well, I was just at the supermarket shopping, and curiosity has killed this

cat. I bought a little packet of organic Danvers carrots (at $1.99 for 2 gm,

maybe 1.5 tsp volume).