Guest guest Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Sometimes it is a reaction to how you were raised. I was raised in a city where gardening was not possible for most people. I could not wait to escape the city to live where things are green, the air is clean, and there are no neighbors right on top of me. I used to listen to the garden hotline on AM radio and dream of what I'd grow. When I met my husband, he had a garden every year and it was such a proud moment when I dug the hole for my first garden plant. We grow lots of herbs, which surprises people. I do make my own pickles too and often people are surprised at how much I cook and prepare food. n Rollings, PhD NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686 www.DrnRollings.com Sent from my IPod Touch > > What ever happened to the simple life? > Some times when people come by, I show them my garden. Many times their jaws drop. I often hear people say, " My grandmother /grandfather had a garden " . > When I tell people that I make my own pickles. They say, " How do you make pickles? " I say better than store bought. > I guess its all in how you were raised. > ew > > Re: OT: worm composting & rainwater > > If I told that to my husband " Brooklyn is one of the biggest communities with worm composting " , my husband would never leave the house. > > ROFL. > > How funny!!!!! > > Well, there are MANY people in my area who make their own wine in their garages. They have casks and big things full of home-made wine. I saw these things once and I asked my neighbor " what on earth are those things? " and he said " you're Italian and you don't recognize home made wine?? " I was fascinated. > > But NOTHING fascinated me like when I first moved into my area 20 years ago. > > I walked into my backyard to find my landlord, the family and other people with these BIG vats of mason jars and lids and basil and fresh tomatoes in HUMONGUOUS BINS. > > I said " whatever are you guys doing? " I was told " We are making tomato sauce " . > > Now you have to understand. I thought tomato sauce came in a jar called Ragu or Hunts or whatever. > > I said " you're doing what??? " And they patiently explained how people from the old country would NEVER go into a store and buy tomato sauce " I said " get out of here " > > They handed me a knife, I sat down in front of all of these wood crates and I began cutting tomatoes into chunks and dumping them into this BIG vat of water. > > Then I watched as they put the tomatoes in this sieve and strained them. Took HOURS. Then they poured the stuff into Mason Jars, then put the lids on, then they had these HUMONGOUS other bins over some electric element, and they cooked the jars which also sealed them. They used these HUGE tong things to pick up the jars. > > Never in all my life had I ever seen these things. > > So guess what Melody has been doing every year for 20 years. > > Helping out in the backyard and jarring tomatoes. It gives me a lot of satisfaction to do this. > > No one under the age of 30 does this around here. Everybody is over 80. > > And you should see them work!!! > > lol > Melody > > > > > > > > > I've had a " worm farm " going in my basement for the past 3 years. I use the > > > >'wormtopia' stackable tray system. I use the 'soil' that is produced to > > > >sprout/grow my wheatgrass, and the wheatgrass root mats go back into the worm > > > > > >farm. Inbetween wheatgrass mats, the worms get all my kitchen veggie scraps. > > >It > > > > > > >is a wonderful system. I also use the worm castings in my garden. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 The young man that works for me after school, brought a couple of his friends by this afternoon to help put a planter in my truck that I am donating to a school garden. One boy asked why I grew crops. I offered them both stuff to take home. The second boy wouldn't take anything. My helper said that he didn't like vegetables. Wouldn't it be wonderful if I could have talked to this boy and his parents about obesity and diabetes? ew Sometimes it is a reaction to how you were raised. I was raised in a city where gardening was not possible for most people. I could not wait to escape the city to live where things are green, the air is clean, and there are no neighbors right on top of me. I used to listen to the garden hotline on AM radio and dream of what I'd grow. When I met my husband, he had a garden every year and it was such a proud moment when I dug the hole for my first garden plant. We grow lots of herbs, which surprises people. I do make my own pickles too and often people are surprised at how much I cook and prepare food. n Rollings, PhD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I grew up in NYC, back in the early 70's I actually live a few years in the theatre district on 8th ave in Times Square. The funny thing was just a couple of blocks away we had some great markets with pretty good fresh veggies and herbs. It wasn;t even expensive back then and probably doesn't exist anymore but now I am in the sticks... I have a very big yard for a garden and I have a large out building for fooling around in. I met another old man who was a landscape guy but now he also just wants to garden and he's looking to start his watermelons and such in my out building... in return he's going to machine til a large area of my yard for a garden and a big red worm compost area. I'm in heaven but I was in heaven when I lived on the corner of 45st and 8 ave... 301 w45st... 1974 ... I paid 225 dollars a month with gas, electric, etc included...I swear I could get those big fat carrots for less than a dime a pound..... I had a doorman!  > > What ever happened to the simple life? > Some times when people come by, I show them my garden. Many times their jaws drop. I often hear people say, " My grandmother /grandfather had a garden " . > When I tell people that I make my own pickles. They say, " How do you make pickles? " I say better than store bought. > I guess its all in how you were raised. > ew > > Re: OT: worm composting & rainwater > > If I told that to my husband " Brooklyn is one of the biggest communities with worm composting " , my husband would never leave the house. > > ROFL. > > How funny!!!!! > > Well, there are MANY people in my area who make their own wine in their garages. They have casks and big things full of home-made wine. I saw these things once and I asked my neighbor " what on earth are those things? " and he said " you're Italian and you don't recognize home made wine?? " I was fascinated. > > But NOTHING fascinated me like when I first moved into my area 20 years ago. > > I walked into my backyard to find my landlord, the family and other people with these BIG vats of mason jars and lids and basil and fresh tomatoes in HUMONGUOUS BINS. > > I said " whatever are you guys doing? " I was told " We are making tomato sauce " . > > Now you have to understand. I thought tomato sauce came in a jar called Ragu or Hunts or whatever. > > I said " you're doing what??? " And they patiently explained how people from the old country would NEVER go into a store and buy tomato sauce " I said " get out of here " > > They handed me a knife, I sat down in front of all of these wood crates and I began cutting tomatoes into chunks and dumping them into this BIG vat of water. > > Then I watched as they put the tomatoes in this sieve and strained them. Took HOURS. Then they poured the stuff into Mason Jars, then put the lids on, then they had these HUMONGOUS other bins over some electric element, and they cooked the jars which also sealed them. They used these HUGE tong things to pick up the jars. > > Never in all my life had I ever seen these things. > > So guess what Melody has been doing every year for 20 years. > > Helping out in the backyard and jarring tomatoes. It gives me a lot of satisfaction to do this. > > No one under the age of 30 does this around here. Everybody is over 80. > > And you should see them work!!! > > lol > Melody > > > > > > > > > I've had a " worm farm " going in my basement for the past 3 years. I use the > > > >'wormtopia' stackable tray system. I use the 'soil' that is produced to > > > >sprout/grow my wheatgrass, and the wheatgrass root mats go back into the worm > > > > > >farm. Inbetween wheatgrass mats, the worms get all my kitchen veggie scraps. > > >It > > > > > > >is a wonderful system. I also use the worm castings in my garden. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Rents in Brooklyn are now $1600 a month and that's for a 4 room apartment. Things have changed. If I could, I'd move to the Amish country in PA and live like them. No technology, grow all my food and not have to worry about watching this or that on tv. Boy have I changed at my age. lol Melody > > > > > > > > > I've had a " worm farm " going in my basement for the past 3 years. I use the > > > > >'wormtopia' stackable tray system. I use the 'soil' that is produced to > > > > >sprout/grow my wheatgrass, and the wheatgrass root mats go back into the worm > > > > > > > >farm. Inbetween wheatgrass mats, the worms get all my kitchen veggie scraps. > > > >It > > > > > > > > >is a wonderful system. I also use the worm castings in my garden. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Oh , I don't know why, but your email reminded me of when I lived in my beautiful studio apt in downtown San Francisco--at $500 a month! It was cheap because the only view was of a brick wall--unless you leaned out the window and then you could see Macy's. I had lush african violets that bloomed all the time (the light was amazing). And also when I was a kid in Rockaway Beach NY. My grandparents lived in a little bungalow and then built a little garden out of old stones so they could grow their tomatoes. We we so happy with that.Now I live in the rural/suburbs of NJ and we have a good amount of property that is all left wild for animals to survive on. We are planning our worm composting, outdoor composting, and rainwater collection and have paid for our CSA membership for this year. We had a nice veggie garden at my office, but our backs have given out and our work prevents us from gardening. I used to take little kid patients to the garden where we'd pick tomatoes and herbs and talk about what was bothering them. Some of the patients, who are older now, still talk about that. With the adolescents, we'd sit outside and they'd smoke their cigarettes while we talked. Their parents were always so happy the kids were talking to a professional. I have to get a new table for the yard so we can do that again--hopefully with less smoking! n n Rollings, PhDNJ Licensed Psychologist #4686www.DrnRollings.com Until we have the courage to recognize cruelty for what it is--whether its victim is human or animal--we cannot expect things to be much better in this world... We cannot have peace among men whose hearts delight in killing any living creature. By every act that glorifies or even tolerates such moronic delight in killing we set back the progress of humanity. Carson > > What ever happened to the simple life? > Some times when people come by, I show them my garden. Many times their jaws drop. I often hear people say, " My grandmother /grandfather had a garden " . > When I tell people that I make my own pickles. They say, " How do you make pickles? " I say better than store bought. > I guess its all in how you were raised. > ew > > Re: OT: worm composting & rainwater > > If I told that to my husband " Brooklyn is one of the biggest communities with worm composting " , my husband would never leave the house. > > ROFL. > > How funny!!!!! > > Well, there are MANY people in my area who make their own wine in their garages. They have casks and big things full of home-made wine. I saw these things once and I asked my neighbor " what on earth are those things? " and he said " you're Italian and you don't recognize home made wine?? " I was fascinated. > > But NOTHING fascinated me like when I first moved into my area 20 years ago. > > I walked into my backyard to find my landlord, the family and other people with these BIG vats of mason jars and lids and basil and fresh tomatoes in HUMONGUOUS BINS. > > I said " whatever are you guys doing? " I was told " We are making tomato sauce " . > > Now you have to understand. I thought tomato sauce came in a jar called Ragu or Hunts or whatever. > > I said " you're doing what??? " And they patiently explained how people from the old country would NEVER go into a store and buy tomato sauce " I said " get out of here " > > They handed me a knife, I sat down in front of all of these wood crates and I began cutting tomatoes into chunks and dumping them into this BIG vat of water. > > Then I watched as they put the tomatoes in this sieve and strained them. Took HOURS. Then they poured the stuff into Mason Jars, then put the lids on, then they had these HUMONGOUS other bins over some electric element, and they cooked the jars which also sealed them. They used these HUGE tong things to pick up the jars. > > Never in all my life had I ever seen these things. > > So guess what Melody has been doing every year for 20 years. > > Helping out in the backyard and jarring tomatoes. It gives me a lot of satisfaction to do this. > > No one under the age of 30 does this around here. Everybody is over 80. > > And you should see them work!!! > > lol > Melody > > > > > > > > > I've had a " worm farm " going in my basement for the past 3 years. I use the > > > >'wormtopia' stackable tray system. I use the 'soil' that is produced to > > > >sprout/grow my wheatgrass, and the wheatgrass root mats go back into the worm > > > > > >farm. Inbetween wheatgrass mats, the worms get all my kitchen veggie scraps. > > >It > > > > > > >is a wonderful system. I also use the worm castings in my garden. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Melody,Despite my being the gadget queen, I always say to my husband that I would make a great Amish or Orthodox wife! The only trouble is the whole doctor business--that wouldn't work.No disrespect to either communities-I hold those cultures in the highest esteem. marionbuddhist, vegan doctor who is a housewife at heart n Rollings, PhDNJ Licensed Psychologist #4686www.DrnRollings.com Until we have the courage to recognize cruelty for what it is--whether its victim is human or animal--we cannot expect things to be much better in this world... We cannot have peace among men whose hearts delight in killing any living creature. By every act that glorifies or even tolerates such moronic delight in killing we set back the progress of humanity. Carson Subject: Re: worm composting To: sproutpeople Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 10:21 AM  Rents in Brooklyn are now $1600 a month and that's for a 4 room apartment. Things have changed. If I could, I'd move to the Amish country in PA and live like them. No technology, grow all my food and not have to worry about watching this or that on tv. Boy have I changed at my age. lol Melody > > > > > > > > > I've had a " worm farm " going in my basement for the past 3 years. I use the > > > > >'wormtopia' stackable tray system. I use the 'soil' that is produced to > > > > >sprout/grow my wheatgrass, and the wheatgrass root mats go back into the worm > > > > > > > >farm. Inbetween wheatgrass mats, the worms get all my kitchen veggie scraps. > > > >It > > > > > > > > >is a wonderful system. I also use the worm castings in my garden. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Melody, you wouldn't have your computer there. ew Re: worm composting Rents in Brooklyn are now $1600 a month and that's for a 4 room apartment. Things have changed. If I could, I'd move to the Amish country in PA and live like them. No technology, grow all my food and not have to worry about watching this or that on tv. Boy have I changed at my age. lol Melody > > > > > > > > > I've had a " worm farm " going in my basement for the past 3 years. I use the > > > > >'wormtopia' stackable tray system. I use the 'soil' that is produced to > > > > >sprout/grow my wheatgrass, and the wheatgrass root mats go back into the worm > > > > > > > >farm. Inbetween wheatgrass mats, the worms get all my kitchen veggie scraps. > > > >It > > > > > > > > >is a wonderful system. I also use the worm castings in my garden. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 EW: Ever hear of Virgin Mobil (at least I think that's the name). You can buy a prepaid thingee that you plug into the computer and BINGO, you are on the net. Now all I would need is a cooperating cell tower somewhere and I could get the internet. But if not, I could always take the horse and buggy, go into town and use a wi-fi spot. lol Look at me, I'm dreaming of a no technology world and then I turn on the tv and there's droids, and smart phones, and wi-fi this and ipads, itouches, i this and i that. What is next? Holographic interfaces? Good Lord. We are now living in a Star Trek world and all we need is a transporter. Melody > > > > > > > > > > > I've had a " worm farm " going in my basement for the past 3 years. I use the > > > > > >'wormtopia' stackable tray system. I use the 'soil' that is produced to > > > > > >sprout/grow my wheatgrass, and the wheatgrass root mats go back into the worm > > > > > > > > > >farm. Inbetween wheatgrass mats, the worms get all my kitchen veggie scraps. > > > > >It > > > > > > > > > > >is a wonderful system. I also use the worm castings in my garden. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 n: You could most certainly be an orthodox wife and still have a thriving business. Years ago, when we were in family therapy with our son we went to the Jewish Board of Children Services. You have NO idea how many Orthodox families are in therapy. No idea!!! I had NO idea. I learned much. Mel > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've had a " worm farm " going in my basement for the past 3 years. I use the > > > > > > >'wormtopia' stackable tray system. I use the 'soil' that is produced to > > > > > > >sprout/grow my wheatgrass, and the wheatgrass root mats go back into the worm > > > > > > > > > > > >farm. Inbetween wheatgrass mats, the worms get all my kitchen veggie scraps. > > > > > >It > > > > > > > > > > > > >is a wonderful system. I also use the worm castings in my garden. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 But, the Amish don't have electricity! You could own all of that stuff, but no where to plug in ew Re: worm composting EW: Ever hear of Virgin Mobil (at least I think that's the name). You can buy a prepaid thingee that you plug into the computer and BINGO, you are on the net. Now all I would need is a cooperating cell tower somewhere and I could get the internet. But if not, I could always take the horse and buggy, go into town and use a wi-fi spot. lol Look at me, I'm dreaming of a no technology world and then I turn on the tv and there's droids, and smart phones, and wi-fi this and ipads, itouches, i this and i that. What is next? Holographic interfaces? Good Lord. We are now living in a Star Trek world and all we need is a transporter. Melody > > > > > > > > > > > I've had a " worm farm " going in my basement for the past 3 years. I use the > > > > > >'wormtopia' stackable tray system. I use the 'soil' that is produced to > > > > > >sprout/grow my wheatgrass, and the wheatgrass root mats go back into the worm > > > > > > > > > >farm. Inbetween wheatgrass mats, the worms get all my kitchen veggie scraps. > > > > >It > > > > > > > > > > >is a wonderful system. I also use the worm castings in my garden. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 EW: Now you know you don't have to plug in a computer to use it. And if you don't think the Amish don't have electricity, YOU ARE MISTAKEN. Everyone thinks the Amish do not believe in electricity, in modern conveniences, etc. Not true. They don't like it but if they need it, THEY CAN HAVE IT. Kids who are asthmatic have sleep apnea machines and breathing machines. I have read this. And there is a group of Amish called Beachy Amish that drive cars. Look them up. Bet you never heard of this right? Melody Mar 16, 2011 01:33:13 PM, sproutpeople wrote: =========================================== But, the Amish don't have electricity! You could own all of that stuff, but no where to plug in ew Re: worm composting EW: Ever hear of Virgin Mobil (at least I think that's the name). You can buy a prepaid thingee that you plug into the computer and BINGO, you are on the net. Now all I would need is a cooperating cell tower somewhere and I could get the internet. But if not, I could always take the horse and buggy, go into town and use a wi-fi spot. lol Look at me, I'm dreaming of a no technology world and then I turn on the tv and there's droids, and smart phones, and wi-fi this and ipads, itouches, i this and i that. What is next? Holographic interfaces? Good Lord. We are now living in a Star Trek world and all we need is a transporter. Melody > > > > > > > > > > > I've had a " worm farm " going in my basement for the past 3 years. I use the > > > > > >'wormtopia' stackable tray system. I use the 'soil' that is produced to > > > > > >sprout/grow my wheatgrass, and the wheatgrass root mats go back into the worm > > > > > > > > > >farm. Inbetween wheatgrass mats, the worms get all my kitchen veggie scraps. > > > > >It > > > > > > > > > > >is a wonderful system. I also use the worm castings in my garden. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 EW: Here's some more info on Beachy Amish. I found this absolutely fascinating. They look just like the old order amish, they dress like them, etc. Just copied this off of the internet. Specific Practices and Beliefs Do Beachys use horse and buggies or do they drive cars?: Beachys all drive cars. No Beachys would use horse and buggies. Do Beachys have electricity and other modern conveniences? Beachys do not abstain from as many technologies as the Old Order Amish. All Beachys would have electricity, telephones, and modern kitchen appliances. Most churches, though not all, would allow computers, cell phones, tape and CD players, and cameras. Many also allow email. Some allow web access and DVDs on the computer. A very few condone radio. None allow television. Individual churches decide what to allow and what not to allow based on the extent to which they wish to control the level of influence from surrounding secular society, and the level of technology acceptance in any given church is reflected in the amount the church's practices and mindsets are influenced and blended with that of Western society. ------------------------------------------------------------------ So now you know that there are SOME Amish Groups that drive cars, have computers and use electricity. Those are the ones I'll join. lol Melody > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 The Proverbs 31 wife was an accomplished businesswoman. I'd think even orthodox Judaism would encourage such entrepreneurship in their women as it brings honor to their husband. Tina > > n: > > You could most certainly be an orthodox wife and still have a thriving business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 There are Mennonites and there are Amish. There is also " Old Order " Amish and " New Order " Amish. Old Order Amish being the most strict. What is permitted depends on the decision of the elders of each particular group. When PA ruled that milking must be done by machine, the elders decided that it was okay to have a generator to produce electricity for the sole purpose of running the milking machines. The issue with electricity isn't the power itself but how it is delivered--the power lines connect the Amish house to the world and the Bible tells us to be separate from the world. Mennonites drive cars but must have no chrome (issue: pride). For what it's worth, Tina > > EW: > > Now you know you don't have to plug in a computer to use it. And if you don't think the Amish don't have electricity, YOU ARE MISTAKEN. Everyone thinks the Amish do not believe in electricity, in modern conveniences, etc. > > Not true. They don't like it but if they need it, THEY CAN HAVE IT. Kids who are asthmatic have sleep apnea machines and breathing machines. I have read this. And there is a group of Amish called Beachy Amish that drive cars. > > Look them up. > > Bet you never heard of this right? > > Melody > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Melody I should have been more specific- I meant a hascidic wife (probably spelled wrong) n Rollings, PhD NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686 www.DrnRollings.com Sent from my IPod Touch > n: > > You could most certainly be an orthodox wife and still have a thriving business. Years ago, when we were in family therapy with our son we went to the Jewish Board of Children Services. > > You have NO idea how many Orthodox families are in therapy. No idea!!! > > I had NO idea. I learned much. > > Mel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've had a " worm farm " going in my basement for the past 3 years. I use the > > > > > > > > >'wormtopia' stackable tray system. I use the 'soil' that is produced to > > > > > > > > >sprout/grow my wheatgrass, and the wheatgrass root mats go back into the worm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >farm. Inbetween wheatgrass mats, the worms get all my kitchen veggie scraps. > > > > > > > >It > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >is a wonderful system. I also use the worm castings in my garden. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Thanks for the info ew Re: worm composting EW: Here's some more info on Beachy Amish. I found this absolutely fascinating. They look just like the old order amish, they dress like them, etc. Just copied this off of the internet. Specific Practices and Beliefs Do Beachys use horse and buggies or do they drive cars?: Beachys all drive cars. No Beachys would use horse and buggies. Do Beachys have electricity and other modern conveniences? Beachys do not abstain from as many technologies as the Old Order Amish. All Beachys would have electricity, telephones, and modern kitchen appliances. Most churches, though not all, would allow computers, cell phones, tape and CD players, and cameras. Many also allow email. Some allow web access and DVDs on the computer. A very few condone radio. None allow television. Individual churches decide what to allow and what not to allow based on the extent to which they wish to control the level of influence from surrounding secular society, and the level of technology acceptance in any given church is reflected in the amount the church's practices and mindsets are influenced and blended with that of Western society. ---------------------------------------------------------- So now you know that there are SOME Amish Groups that drive cars, have computers and use electricity. Those are the ones I'll join. lol Melody > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 HI. I have been to Pennsylvania MANY times in my liftime. I ate at the Plain and Fancy Restaurant where they served up FAMILY portions. Oh my god, the food was amazing but TOO MUCH. The girls who wore the amish garb had the most beautiful skin. I remember the furniture that the men made. I went on many tours. I enjoyed those days. Melody Mar 16, 2011 02:59:14 PM, sproutpeople wrote: =========================================== There are Mennonites and there are Amish. There is also " Old Order " Amish and " New Order " Amish. Old Order Amish being the most strict. What is permitted depends on the decision of the elders of each particular group. When PA ruled that milking must be done by machine, the elders decided that it was okay to have a generator to produce electricity for the sole purpose of running the milking machines. The issue with electricity isn't the power itself but how it is delivered--the power lines connect the Amish house to the world and the Bible tells us to be separate from the world. Mennonites drive cars but must have no chrome (issue: pride). For what it's worth, Tina > > EW: > > Now you know you don't have to plug in a computer to use it. And if you don't think the Amish don't have electricity, YOU ARE MISTAKEN. Everyone thinks the Amish do not believe in electricity, in modern conveniences, etc. > > Not true. They don't like it but if they need it, THEY CAN HAVE IT. Kids who are asthmatic have sleep apnea machines and breathing machines. I have read this. And there is a group of Amish called Beachy Amish that drive cars. > > Look them up. > > Bet you never heard of this right? > > Melody > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I think you would be great. We all need to help each other in this lifetime. Just look at Japan. If any body needed some help it's those people. I cannot imagine what they are going through. Melody Mar 16, 2011 03:17:46 PM, sproutpeople wrote: =========================================== Melody I should have been more specific- I meant a hascidic wife (probably spelled wrong) n Rollings, PhD NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686 www.DrnRollings.com Sent from my IPod Touch > n: > > You could most certainly be an orthodox wife and still have a thriving business. Years ago, when we were in family therapy with our son we went to the Jewish Board of Children Services. > > You have NO idea how many Orthodox families are in therapy. No idea!!! > > I had NO idea. I learned much. > > Mel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've had a " worm farm " going in my basement for the past 3 years. I use the > > > > > > > > >'wormtopia' stackable tray system. I use the 'soil' that is produced to > > > > > > > > >sprout/grow my wheatgrass, and the wheatgrass root mats go back into the worm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >farm. Inbetween wheatgrass mats, the worms get all my kitchen veggie scraps. > > > > > > > >It > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >is a wonderful system. I also use the worm castings in my garden. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 No Problem. Hey, I actually showed YOU something. lol Melody Mar 16, 2011 05:29:58 PM, sproutpeople wrote: =========================================== Thanks for the info ew Re: worm composting EW: Here's some more info on Beachy Amish. I found this absolutely fascinating. They look just like the old order amish, they dress like them, etc. Just copied this off of the internet. Specific Practices and Beliefs Do Beachys use horse and buggies or do they drive cars?: Beachys all drive cars. No Beachys would use horse and buggies. Do Beachys have electricity and other modern conveniences? Beachys do not abstain from as many technologies as the Old Order Amish. All Beachys would have electricity, telephones, and modern kitchen appliances. Most churches, though not all, would allow computers, cell phones, tape and CD players, and cameras. Many also allow email. Some allow web access and DVDs on the computer. A very few condone radio. None allow television. Individual churches decide what to allow and what not to allow based on the extent to which they wish to control the level of influence from surrounding secular society, and the level of technology acceptance in any given church is reflected in the amount the church's practices and mindsets are influenced and blended with that of Western society. ---------------------------------------------------------- So now you know that there are SOME Amish Groups that drive cars, have computers and use electricity. Those are the ones I'll join. lol Melody > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Well then, you'll be happy to know that I'm giving a talk on Herb Gardening this Sat. ew Re: worm composting EW: Here's some more info on Beachy Amish. I found this absolutely fascinating. They look just like the old order amish, they dress like them, etc. Just copied this off of the internet. Specific Practices and Beliefs Do Beachys use horse and buggies or do they drive cars?: Beachys all drive cars. No Beachys would use horse and buggies. Do Beachys have electricity and other modern conveniences? Beachys do not abstain from as many technologies as the Old Order Amish. All Beachys would have electricity, telephones, and modern kitchen appliances. Most churches, though not all, would allow computers, cell phones, tape and CD players, and cameras. Many also allow email. Some allow web access and DVDs on the computer. A very few condone radio. None allow television. Individual churches decide what to allow and what not to allow based on the extent to which they wish to control the level of influence from surrounding secular society, and the level of technology acceptance in any given church is reflected in the amount the church's practices and mindsets are influenced and blended with that of Western society. ---------------------------------------------------------- So now you know that there are SOME Amish Groups that drive cars, have computers and use electricity. Those are the ones I'll join. lol Melody > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Knock em dead EW, as long as you don't talk about WORMS lol, Mel Mar 16, 2011 09:09:57 PM, sproutpeople wrote: =========================================== Well then, you'll be happy to know that I'm giving a talk on Herb Gardening this Sat. ew Re: worm composting EW: Here's some more info on Beachy Amish. I found this absolutely fascinating. They look just like the old order amish, they dress like them, etc. Just copied this off of the internet. Specific Practices and Beliefs Do Beachys use horse and buggies or do they drive cars?: Beachys all drive cars. No Beachys would use horse and buggies. Do Beachys have electricity and other modern conveniences? Beachys do not abstain from as many technologies as the Old Order Amish. All Beachys would have electricity, telephones, and modern kitchen appliances. Most churches, though not all, would allow computers, cell phones, tape and CD players, and cameras. Many also allow email. Some allow web access and DVDs on the computer. A very few condone radio. None allow television. Individual churches decide what to allow and what not to allow based on the extent to which they wish to control the level of influence from surrounding secular society, and the level of technology acceptance in any given church is reflected in the amount the church's practices and mindsets are influenced and blended with that of Western society. ---------------------------------------------------------- So now you know that there are SOME Amish Groups that drive cars, have computers and use electricity. Those are the ones I'll join. lol Melody > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Maybe at another date. I've already suggested to this group that I would like to talk about sprouting. But I could also give a worm talk. I could bring Agnes, she's my head worm. ew Re: worm composting EW: Here's some more info on Beachy Amish. I found this absolutely fascinating. They look just like the old order amish, they dress like them, etc. Just copied this off of the internet. Specific Practices and Beliefs Do Beachys use horse and buggies or do they drive cars?: Beachys all drive cars. No Beachys would use horse and buggies. Do Beachys have electricity and other modern conveniences? Beachys do not abstain from as many technologies as the Old Order Amish. All Beachys would have electricity, telephones, and modern kitchen appliances. Most churches, though not all, would allow computers, cell phones, tape and CD players, and cameras. Many also allow email. Some allow web access and DVDs on the computer. A very few condone radio. None allow television. Individual churches decide what to allow and what not to allow based on the extent to which they wish to control the level of influence from surrounding secular society, and the level of technology acceptance in any given church is reflected in the amount the church's practices and mindsets are influenced and blended with that of Western society. ---------------------------------------------------------- So now you know that there are SOME Amish Groups that drive cars, have computers and use electricity. Those are the ones I'll join. lol Melody > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Oh, what a sweet name. Please give her my regards and I hope she sheds on a regular basis. lol melody Mar 16, 2011 10:25:41 PM, sproutpeople wrote: =========================================== Maybe at another date. I've already suggested to this group that I would like to talk about sprouting. But I could also give a worm talk. I could bring Agnes, she's my head worm. ew Re: worm composting EW: Here's some more info on Beachy Amish. I found this absolutely fascinating. They look just like the old order amish, they dress like them, etc. Just copied this off of the internet. Specific Practices and Beliefs Do Beachys use horse and buggies or do they drive cars?: Beachys all drive cars. No Beachys would use horse and buggies. Do Beachys have electricity and other modern conveniences? Beachys do not abstain from as many technologies as the Old Order Amish. All Beachys would have electricity, telephones, and modern kitchen appliances. Most churches, though not all, would allow computers, cell phones, tape and CD players, and cameras. Many also allow email. Some allow web access and DVDs on the computer. A very few condone radio. None allow television. Individual churches decide what to allow and what not to allow based on the extent to which they wish to control the level of influence from surrounding secular society, and the level of technology acceptance in any given church is reflected in the amount the church's practices and mindsets are influenced and blended with that of Western society. ---------------------------------------------------------- So now you know that there are SOME Amish Groups that drive cars, have computers and use electricity. Those are the ones I'll join. lol Melody > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 A good transporter system - all our oil worries would be gone!!!!! (I'm sure it runs on solar cells, right???) Just kidding. More serious (ever so slightly) - out in the boondocks we have to rely on satellite internet (no cell signals make it to the house here, too much geography) which costs a lot more and works not that impressively. Oh well, beats dial up. Kathleen (the horses love it here, but mine refuses the buggy) > > > > > > Melody, you wouldn't have your computer there. > > ew > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Yeah, I once heard that sattelite internet connections are WAY more expensive than cable or dsl. Years ago when we first got Directv I had inquired about getting DSL from them. It was called Network way back then. Brother,,, the prices were through the roof. I said " but why are you so much more money than cable or dsl " ? She said " well, I don't know but at least you have an option " . I then said " Okay, let me ask you one more thing. when it rains outside, I lose Directv, does that mean if I had high speed from your network, I would lose that in the rain too?? " She said " yes, obviously " . I then said " well obviously, I'm not putting an antenna on my roof, only to lose the internet every time it rains " . So I have Verizon. FOR YEARS now. I wonder what will happen when they wire Fios in my neighborhood. My friend has it and she gets Facebook and youtube on her tv. Glory Be. Times have changed since we had free tv. lol Melody Mar 16, 2011 11:57:01 PM, sproutpeople wrote: =========================================== A good transporter system - all our oil worries would be gone!!!!! (I'm sure it runs on solar cells, right???) Just kidding. More serious (ever so slightly) - out in the boondocks we have to rely on satellite internet (no cell signals make it to the house here, too much geography) which costs a lot more and works not that impressively. Oh well, beats dial up. Kathleen (the horses love it here, but mine refuses the buggy) > > > > > > Melody, you wouldn't have your computer there. > > ew > > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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