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Any of you all have to put your son/ daughter in restraints at bedtime to

prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three nights a week my son

tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into Clonadine for help with

sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll see...

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I started putting a restraint around my son Marty's waist years ago just

to make sure he stayed in bed at night and didn't tear up his room, etc.

I tied one end around his waist and one end onto the metal bed frame. He

would still get up and drag the bed around the room at times, so I had

to make it pretty short so he couldn't do that.

Now that he doesn't get up on his own anymore we only put restraints on

his wrists at night so he doesn't pull out his food tube. They don't

seem to bother him much.

A lot of people may disapprove, but I've had to protect my son the best

way I knew how. There was one time it was bad though. I had the

restraint too long and he got up and fell over forward and couldn't get

back up, so hung there for a few hours. When I got up and found him that

way it was bad and we rushed him to the hospital and he had

fibromyalasis. Not sure if that is the right word, anyway it was bad,

deterioration of muscle. They had to admit him to the hospital and put

him on a fast IV drip to flush his kidneys of the destructed tissue, or

else it could have damaged them.

After that I got a lower bed so it was impossible to hang out of it

anymore if he got up to a standing position.

Carolyn

T wrote:

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> Any of you all have to put your son/ daughter in restraints at bedtime

> to prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three nights a

> week my son tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into Clonadine

> for help with sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll see...

>

>

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He had rhabdomyalysis, destruction of muscle tissue. This can happen

with restraints if the child can get up and fall over.

Carolyn

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> I started putting a restraint around my son Marty's waist years ago just

> to make sure he stayed in bed at night and didn't tear up his room, etc.

> I tied one end around his waist and one end onto the metal bed frame. He

> would still get up and drag the bed around the room at times, so I had

> to make it pretty short so he couldn't do that.

>

> Now that he doesn't get up on his own anymore we only put restraints on

> his wrists at night so he doesn't pull out his food tube. They don't

> seem to bother him much.

>

> A lot of people may disapprove, but I've had to protect my son the best

> way I knew how. There was one time it was bad though. I had the

> restraint too long and he got up and fell over forward and couldn't get

> back up, so hung there for a few hours. When I got up and found him that

> way it was bad and we rushed him to the hospital and he had

> fibromyalasis. Not sure if that is the right word, anyway it was bad,

> deterioration of muscle. They had to admit him to the hospital and put

> him on a fast IV drip to flush his kidneys of the destructed tissue, or

> else it could have damaged them.

>

> After that I got a lower bed so it was impossible to hang out of it

> anymore if he got up to a standing position.

>

> Carolyn

>

>

> T wrote:

>

>> Any of you all have to put your son/ daughter in restraints at bedtime

>> to prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three nights a

>> week my son tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into Clonadine

>> for help with sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll see...

>>

>>

>>

>

>

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>

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I've never considered restraints personally because I'd be concerned in case of fire.>> Any of you all have to put your son/ daughter in restraints at bedtime > to prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three nights a > week my son tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into Clonadine > for help with sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll see...>> ------------------------------------

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Oh and , I've heard very good things about Melatonin at bedtime, but have never tried it with my son.>> Any of you all have to put your son/ daughter in restraints at bedtime > to prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three nights a > week my son tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into Clonadine > for help with sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll see...>> ------------------------------------

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I worry about a fire too. I worry also about him panicing and feeling helpless.

:(

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Sent: September 27, 2011 9/27/11

To: autism-aspergers

Subject: Re: restraints

 

I've never considered restraints personally because I'd be concerned in case of

fire.

>

> Any of you all have to put your son/ daughter in restraints at bedtime

> to prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three nights a

> week my son tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into Clonadine

> for help with sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll see...

>

>

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I was thinking the same thing. Obviously they wouldn't be able to run themselves but it would also make it difficult for fireman to get them out, possibly having to undo a restraint in smoky conditions and therefore putting their lives in more danger...

Aj

Re: restraints

I've never considered restraints personally because I'd be concerned in case of fire.

>

> Any of you all have to put your son/ daughter in restraints at bedtime

> to prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three nights a

> week my son tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into Clonadine

> for help with sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll see...

>

>

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My 10yr old son is on Clonadine at bedtime for severe head-banging and it's working like a charm.  He takes 2 sublingual tabs at bedtime and it has reduced the head-banging quite significantly.  He didn't tear apart his room, it was mostly for the head-banging.  He also takes Risperdal and Trileptal at bedtime. 

 Mimi

 

Any of you all have to put your son/ daughter in restraints at bedtime to prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three nights a week my son tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into Clonadine for help with sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll see...

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Melatonin worked well before he went on this level of stimulant meds :(

--- Original Message ---

Sent: September 27, 2011 9/27/11

To: autism-aspergers

Subject: Re: restraints

 

Oh and , I've heard very good things about Melatonin at bedtime, but have

never tried it with my son.

>

> Any of you all have to put your son/ daughter in restraints at bedtime

> to prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three nights a

> week my son tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into Clonadine

> for help with sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll see...

>

>

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What if he wasnt tied to bed but just unable to use his hands? I cannot watch

him all night

--- Original Message ---

Sent: September 27, 2011 9/27/11

To: autism-aspergers

Subject: Re: restraints

 

I was thinking the same thing.  Obviously they wouldn't be able to run

themselves but it would also make it difficult for fireman to get them out,

possibly having to undo a restraint in smoky conditions and therefore putting

their lives in more danger...

 

Aj

Re: restraints

 

I've never considered restraints personally because I'd be concerned in case of

fire.

>

> Any of you all have to put your son/ daughter in restraints at bedtime

> to prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three nights a

> week my son tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into Clonadine

> for help with sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll see...

>

>

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I think that I have heard that it is better to take all but necessities out of room....so just a bed, pillow, etc. That is al that is necessary for sleeping. All other "stuff" is kept in another room.

I think I have even heard to just put box spring and mattress directly on the floor...the only thing to mess up then is sheets...

Aj

Re: restraints

I've never considered restraints personally because I'd be concerned in case of fire.

>

> Any of you all have to put your son/ daughter in restraints at bedtime

> to prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three nights a

> week my son tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into Clonadine

> for help with sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll see...

>

>

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I have two dressers, a box spring/ mattress combo on the floor, but he still messes up all that. The mini blinds are ruined. The box spring and the mattress have holes in them. The window sill he has actually chewed on like a puppy---wood missing, stuff carved out of his wooden dresser, etc. I feel like these are the basics but he is still destroying them :( To:

autism-aspergers Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:01 PMSubject: Re: restraints

I think that I have heard that it is better to take all but necessities out of room....so just a bed, pillow, etc. That is al that is necessary for sleeping. All other "stuff" is kept in another room.

I think I have even heard to just put box spring and mattress directly on the floor...the only thing to mess up then is sheets...

Aj

Re: restraints

I've never considered restraints personally because I'd be concerned in case of fire.

>

> Any of you all have to put your son/ daughter in restraints at bedtime

> to prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three nights a

> week my son tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into Clonadine

> for help with sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll see...

>

>

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Does your son take Resperitol? mtabs....quick realease....especially for evenings, and mornings....clonadine never worked for our son. What other things do you do to help him feel secure at bedtime? I would not restrain a child...i would look for more professional help and or hospital if necessary till we got medications worked out.

Our son has Aspergers, ,he is 11.

Da

> Any of you all have to put your son/ daughter in restraints at bedtime to prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three nights a week my son tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into Clonadine for help with sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll see...

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What he could do himself if he got out the front door into the night was

far more of a concern to me than fire was. He could unlock doors

windows, etc. We always had fire alarms and his room was near mine so

figured I could save him in case of fire. Once he did get out of the

house and I didn't see him till the next morning when a policeman

brought him to my door. Some late night party goers had found him

walking down the middle of a busy street and he could not talk!

Carolyn

M. Rinehart wrote:

>

> I've never considered restraints personally because I'd be concerned

> in case of fire.

>

>

> >

> > Any of you all have to put your son/ daughter in restraints at

> bedtime

> > to prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three

> nights a

> > week my son tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into

> Clonadine

> > for help with sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll

> see...

> >

> >

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

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Probably a good idea to move things in the bedoom, but I could never

leave him in there and lock the door because of his seizures. Over the

years now I can hear anything in the night, have bolted clear out of my

bed when I've heard him having a seizure, choking, coughing, etc. I

don't wake up till I am half way to him its a reflex.

When I started using the restraints he was very destructive, would throw

glasses dishes pop bottles, try to break windows the TV, etc. so I

figure restraints would give us all some rest. Sometimes he would still

tear up the room have his mattress at one end and bedsprings and frame

at another end. Finally I got to a spring mattress on the floor no frame

and he couldn't pick them up.

He has a hospital bed now for awhile but doesn't try to get up anymore.

Thank God that phase ended!

Carolyn

Anita wrote:

>

>

> I think that I have heard that it is better to take all but

> necessities out of room....so just a bed, pillow, etc. That is al

> that is necessary for sleeping. All other " stuff " is kept in another

> room.

>

> I think I have even heard to just put box spring and mattress directly

> on the floor...the only thing to mess up then is sheets...

>

> Aj

>

>

>

> Re: restraints

>

>

> I've never considered restraints personally because I'd be concerned

> in case of fire.

>

>

> >

> > Any of you all have to put your son/ daughter in restraints at bedtime

> > to prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three nights a

> > week my son tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into Clonadine

> > for help with sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll see...

> >

> >

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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We had to put this contraption on his window and his window only opens two inches anyway...after finding my son on the roof we put this child safety device on it so if there WAS a fire the fireman would have to break the window :( Better than him breaking his neck falling off the roof. We also have an external lock on his door. We lock it until we go to bed, so at 8 pm we'll lock it and then once we know he's asleep at 11PM we unlock it. His door makes noise and I can hear him get up. But the breaking and destruction ea. night is really hard to cope with. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:22 PMSubject: Re: restraintsWhat he could do himself if he got out the front door into the night was far more of a concern to me than fire was. He could unlock doors windows, etc. We always had fire alarms and his room was near mine so figured I could save him in case of fire. Once he did get out of the house and I didn't see him till the next morning when a policeman brought him to my door. Some late night party goers had found him walking down the middle of a busy

street and he could not talk!Carolyn M. Rinehart wrote:>> I've never considered restraints personally because I'd be concerned > in case of fire.>> > >> > Any of you all have to put your son/

daughter in restraints at> bedtime> > to prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three> nights a> > week my son tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into> Clonadine> > for help with sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll> see...> >> >>>> ------------------------------------>>

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I think restraints would be a bad idea.  My son can't stand even

having the bedclothes tucked in.  I am the same.  It's probably the

harder solution, but finding out why he wrecks things and fixing

that is the better option in the long run.

 

I have two dressers, a box spring/ mattress

combo on the floor, but he still messes up all that. 

The mini blinds are ruined.  The box spring and the

mattress have holes in them.  The window sill he has

actually chewed on like a puppy---wood missing, stuff

carved out of his wooden dresser, etc.  I feel like

these are the basics but he is still destroying them

:(

 

From:

Anita

To:

autism-aspergers

Sent:

Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:01 PM

Subject:

Re: restraints

 

I think that I

have heard that it is better to take all but

necessities out of room....so just a bed,

pillow, etc.   That is al that is necessary

for sleeping.  All other "stuff" is kept in

another room. 

 

I think I have even heard to just put box

spring and mattress directly on the

floor...the only thing to mess up then is

sheets...

 

Aj

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To: autism-aspergers

<autism-aspergers >

Sent: Tue, Sep 27, 2011 4:27 pm

Subject: Re: restraints

 

What if he wasnt tied to bed but

just unable to use his hands? I

cannot watch him all night

--- Original Message ---

Sent: September 27, 2011 9/27/11

To: autism-aspergers

Subject: Re:

restraints

 

I was thinking the same thing. 

Obviously they wouldn't be able to

run themselves but it would also

make it difficult for fireman to get

them out, possibly having to undo a

restraint in smoky conditions and

therefore putting their lives in

more danger...

 

Aj

Re:

restraints

 

I've never considered restraints

personally because I'd be concerned

in case of fire.

>

> Any of you all have to put your

son/ daughter in restraints at

bedtime

> to prevent destruction in their

rooms at night? Two to three nights

a

> week my son tears his room

apart at bedtime. :( Looking into

Clonadine

> for help with sleep...not sure

how well that'll work, but we'll

see...

>

>

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Restraints was not my first line of defense. But after a year of spending a least an hour cleaning up whatever he's destroyed and the thousand or more dollars, probably even more than that of destruction, what else am I to do. He goes to OT, psychologist, developmental dr., psychiatrist, etc....many people helping him on a reg. basis, but we cannot seem to figure out why he does this. He says, "His brain tells him to do it." :( I have not done the restraints yet, but I'm at the verge....I don't want to tie his body to the bed, but maybe just his arms at his sides... To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:32 PMSubject: Re: restraints

I think restraints would be a bad idea. My son can't stand even

having the bedclothes tucked in. I am the same. It's probably the

harder solution, but finding out why he wrecks things and fixing

that is the better option in the long run.

I have two dressers, a box spring/ mattress

combo on the floor, but he still messes up all that.

The mini blinds are ruined. The box spring and the

mattress have holes in them. The window sill he has

actually chewed on like a puppy---wood missing, stuff

carved out of his wooden dresser, etc. I feel like

these are the basics but he is still destroying them

:(

From:

Anita

To:

autism-aspergers

Sent:

Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:01 PM

Subject:

Re: restraints

I think that I

have heard that it is better to take all but

necessities out of room....so just a bed,

pillow, etc. That is al that is necessary

for sleeping. All other "stuff" is kept in

another room.

I think I have even heard to just put box

spring and mattress directly on the

floor...the only thing to mess up then is

sheets...

Aj

-----Original

Message-----

To: autism-aspergers

<autism-aspergers >

Sent: Tue, Sep 27, 2011 4:27 pm

Subject: Re: restraints

What if he wasnt tied to bed but

just unable to use his hands? I

cannot watch him all night

--- Original Message ---

Sent: September 27, 2011 9/27/11

To: autism-aspergers

Subject: Re:

restraints

I was thinking the same thing.

Obviously they wouldn't be able to

run themselves but it would also

make it difficult for fireman to get

them out, possibly having to undo a

restraint in smoky conditions and

therefore putting their lives in

more danger...

Aj

Re:

restraints

I've never considered restraints

personally because I'd be concerned

in case of fire.

>

> Any of you all have to put your

son/ daughter in restraints at

bedtime

> to prevent destruction in their

rooms at night? Two to three nights

a

> week my son tears his room

apart at bedtime. :( Looking into

Clonadine

> for help with sleep...not sure

how well that'll work, but we'll

see...

>

>

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I understand you . It was very hard for me to use a restraint on

my son but it was the only way to get any rest myself, and he did get

used to it. Not a perfect world. If there would have been any other way

then we would have used it, didn't want to knock him out at night with

drugs either. I did give him an Ativan last night because he was real

nervous and even today he is still a little woozy from it.

I don't like to use drugs but sometimes they are needed, just like

sometimes restraints are needed.

Main thing keep on surviving any way you can.

Carolyn

R. Tucker wrote:

> We had to put this contraption on his window and his window only opens

> two inches anyway...after finding my son on the roof we put this child

> safety device on it so if there WAS a fire the fireman would have to

> break the window :( Better than him breaking his neck falling off the

> roof. We also have an external lock on his door. We lock it until we

> go to bed, so at 8 pm we'll lock it and then once we know he's asleep

> at 11PM we unlock it. His door makes noise and I can hear him get up.

>

> But the breaking and destruction ea. night is really hard to cope with.

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> *From:* Carolyn

> *To:* autism-aspergers

> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:22 PM

> *Subject:* Re: restraints

>

> What he could do himself if he got out the front door into the night was

> far more of a concern to me than fire was. He could unlock doors

> windows, etc. We always had fire alarms and his room was near mine so

> figured I could save him in case of fire. Once he did get out of the

> house and I didn't see him till the next morning when a policeman

> brought him to my door. Some late night party goers had found him

> walking down the middle of a busy street and he could not talk!

>

>

> Carolyn

>

>

> M. Rinehart wrote:

> >

> > I've never considered restraints personally because I'd be concerned

> > in case of fire.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Any of you all have to put your son/ daughter in restraints at

> > bedtime

> > > to prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three

> > nights a

> > > week my son tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into

> > Clonadine

> > > for help with sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll

> > see...

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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I thought it was better to let my sons hands be free and just did the

restraint around his waist when he was smaller.

And too it is not that they destroy things, they are in danger like my

son used to like to go to the fridge and get Pepsi bottles and throw

them against the wall they would explode, then he would pick up the

glass and squeeze it! I spent more time trying to keep him from hurting

himself than worrying about my things, well except for the TV and he

went for it a few times, loved tipping over furniture, etc.

He was mad about something, I have no idea what. Mad at me I think

because I didn't fix him. We just road it out and it finally went away

through much prayer to God.

Carolyn

R. Tucker wrote:

>

> Restraints was not my first line of defense. But after a year of

> spending a least an hour cleaning up whatever he's destroyed and the

> thousand or more dollars, probably even more than that of destruction,

> what else am I to do. He goes to OT, psychologist, developmental dr.,

> psychiatrist, etc....many people helping him on a reg. basis, but we

> cannot seem to figure out why he does this. He says, " His brain tells

> him to do it. " :( I have not done the restraints yet, but I'm at the

> verge....I don't want to tie his body to the bed, but maybe just his

> arms at his sides...

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> *From:* Riley

> *To:* autism-aspergers

> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:32 PM

> *Subject:* Re: restraints

>

>

> I think restraints would be a bad idea. My son can't stand even

> having the bedclothes tucked in. I am the same. It's probably the

> harder solution, but finding out why he wrecks things and fixing that

> is the better option in the long run.

>

>

>

>

>>

>> I have two dressers, a box spring/ mattress combo on the floor, but

>> he still messes up all that. The mini blinds are ruined. The box

>> spring and the mattress have holes in them. The window sill he has

>> actually chewed on like a puppy---wood missing, stuff carved out of

>> his wooden dresser, etc. I feel like these are the basics but he is

>> still destroying them :(

>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> *From:* Anita

>> *To:* autism-aspergers

>> <mailto:autism-aspergers >

>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:01 PM

>> *Subject:* Re: restraints

>>

>>

>> I think that I have heard that it is better to take all but

>> necessities out of room....so just a bed, pillow, etc. That is al

>> that is necessary for sleeping. All other " stuff " is kept in another

>> room.

>>

>> I think I have even heard to just put box spring and mattress

>> directly on the floor...the only thing to mess up then is sheets...

>>

>> Aj

>>

>>

>>

>> Re: restraints

>>

>>

>> I've never considered restraints personally because I'd be concerned

>> in case of fire.

>>

>>

>> >

>> > Any of you all have to put your son/ daughter in restraints at bedtime

>> > to prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three nights a

>> > week my son tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into Clonadine

>> > for help with sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll see...

>> >

>> >

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>>

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Did you ever consider getting an ADT system?  We have one and have alarms on all 3 of our doors, our front door, our door going to our garage, and our dining room sliding glass door.  Then we have a panel in our lower level of the house and a 2nd panel in our bedroom so we hear any alarms at night if any of the kids open any doors during the night.  Lauryn has a horrible sleep pattern and only sleeps about 2 (sometimes 4) hours a night, so she wanders the house, and watches her DVD's all night long.  I haven't had any issues with my boys being destructive, but I have had issues with my 15yr old having paranoid tendancies and she would set various " traps " throughout the house to catch bad people - she did this when she was younger, before she was diagnosed with psychosis.

 Mimi

What he could do himself if he got out the front door into the night was

far more of a concern to me than fire was. He could unlock doors

windows, etc. We always had fire alarms and his room was near mine so

figured I could save him in case of fire. Once he did get out of the

house and I didn't see him till the next morning when a policeman

brought him to my door. Some late night party goers had found him

walking down the middle of a busy street and he could not talk!

Carolyn

M. Rinehart wrote:

>

> I've never considered restraints personally because I'd be concerned

> in case of fire.

>

>

>     >

>     > Any of you all have to put your son/ daughter in restraints at

>     bedtime

>     > to prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three

>     nights a

>     > week my son tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into

>     Clonadine

>     > for help with sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll

>     see...

>     >

>     >

>

>

>     ------------------------------------

>

>    

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Please don't tell me clonidine didn't work :( Grrrrr!! he's starting that tonight!! No, no risperdal. I'm afraid of giving him atypical anti psychotic class meds. I don't know what mtabs are. We were giving him Tenex, 50 mg. of Benadryl, and 6 mg. of melatonin for bedtime. (Dr. didn't like it but she agreed that he needed something to get him to sleep. But you cannot take Intuniv/ Tenex with Clonidine, so he went off the Intuniv and he's now on the Clonodine and the melatonin for bed. I pray it works with our son. His name is Tommy and he'll be 9 this month :) He's on 54 mg. of Concerta in the morning with a 20 mg. short acting booster dose of Ritilin, b/c the Concerta never kicked in

for about an hr. and a half and he was having trouble for the first hour or two of class last year. That is a lot of stimulants for a 8 yr. old but it works and he's very successful in reg. education. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:38 PMSubject: Re: restraints

Does your son take Resperitol? mtabs....quick realease....especially for evenings, and mornings....clonadine never worked for our son. What other things do you do to help him feel secure at bedtime? I would not restrain a child...i would look for more professional help and or hospital if necessary till we got medications worked out.

Our son has Aspergers, ,he is 11.

Da

> Any of you all have to put your son/ daughter in restraints at bedtime to prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three nights a week my son tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into Clonadine for help with sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll see...

>

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My son cannot get out of his room. He used to get out on the roof but we fixed that problem. Now I just worry about him getting hurt in the mini blinds, climbing on the dresser, playing with outlets, and tearing up his carpet, walls, bed. Who can afford to buy a new bed every few months? To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:41 PMSubject: Re: restraints

I thought it was better to let my sons hands be free and just did the

restraint around his waist when he was smaller.

And too it is not that they destroy things, they are in danger like my

son used to like to go to the fridge and get Pepsi bottles and throw

them against the wall they would explode, then he would pick up the

glass and squeeze it! I spent more time trying to keep him from hurting

himself than worrying about my things, well except for the TV and he

went for it a few times, loved tipping over furniture, etc.

He was mad about something, I have no idea what. Mad at me I think

because I didn't fix him. We just road it out and it finally went away

through much prayer to God.

Carolyn

R. Tucker wrote:

>

> Restraints was not my first line of defense. But after a year of

> spending a least an hour cleaning up whatever he's destroyed and the

> thousand or more dollars, probably even more than that of destruction,

> what else am I to do. He goes to OT, psychologist, developmental dr.,

> psychiatrist, etc....many people helping him on a reg. basis, but we

> cannot seem to figure out why he does this. He says, "His brain tells

> him to do it." :( I have not done the restraints yet, but I'm at the

> verge....I don't want to tie his body to the bed, but maybe just his

> arms at his sides...

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------

> *From:* Riley

> *To:* autism-aspergers

> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:32 PM

> *Subject:* Re: restraints

>

>

> I think restraints would be a bad idea. My son can't stand even

> having the bedclothes tucked in. I am the same. It's probably the

> harder solution, but finding out why he wrecks things and fixing that

> is the better option in the long run.

>

>

>

>

>>

>> I have two dressers, a box spring/ mattress combo on the floor, but

>> he still messes up all that. The mini blinds are ruined. The box

>> spring and the mattress have holes in them. The window sill he has

>> actually chewed on like a puppy---wood missing, stuff carved out of

>> his wooden dresser, etc. I feel like these are the basics but he is

>> still destroying them :(

>>

>>

>> ----------------------------------------------------------

>> *From:* Anita

>> *To:* autism-aspergers

>> <mailto:autism-aspergers >

>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:01 PM

>> *Subject:* Re: restraints

>>

>>

>> I think that I have heard that it is better to take all but

>> necessities out of room....so just a bed, pillow, etc. That is al

>> that is necessary for sleeping. All other "stuff" is kept in another

>> room.

>>

>> I think I have even heard to just put box spring and mattress

>> directly on the floor...the only thing to mess up then is sheets...

>>

>> Aj

>>

>>

>>

>> Re: restraints

>>

>>

>> I've never considered restraints personally because I'd be concerned

>> in case of fire.

>>

>>

>> >

>> > Any of you all have to put your son/ daughter in restraints at bedtime

>> > to prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three nights a

>> > week my son tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into Clonadine

>> > for help with sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll see...

>> >

>> >

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>>

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Yes, that does sound like just the basics. Does he get into the dressers? If so, I would take those out of the room.

Sounds like he has an oral need - sorry don't know what that is called. Maybe you need to have something available for him to chew on instead of the wood?

Have you consulted a home behavioralist? Someone like that should be able to come to the house and see what type of set up you have and make recommendations I would think.

Aj

Re: restraints

I've never considered restraints personally because I'd be concerned in case of fire.

>

> Any of you all have to put your son/ daughter in restraints at bedtime

> to prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three nights a

> week my son tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into Clonadine

> for help with sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll see...

>

>

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Yah I would get rid of the mini blinds as they can hang themselves.. I

know just how you feel and lots of parents don't have to worry like we

do so might not understand. But I do.

Carolyn

R. Tucker wrote:

>

> My son cannot get out of his room. He used to get out on the roof but

> we fixed that problem. Now I just worry about him getting hurt in the

> mini blinds, climbing on the dresser, playing with outlets, and

> tearing up his carpet, walls, bed. Who can afford to buy a new bed

> every few months?

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> *From:* Carolyn

> *To:* autism-aspergers

> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:41 PM

> *Subject:* Re: restraints

>

>

> I thought it was better to let my sons hands be free and just did the

> restraint around his waist when he was smaller.

>

> And too it is not that they destroy things, they are in danger like my

> son used to like to go to the fridge and get Pepsi bottles and throw

> them against the wall they would explode, then he would pick up the

> glass and squeeze it! I spent more time trying to keep him from hurting

> himself than worrying about my things, well except for the TV and he

> went for it a few times, loved tipping over furniture, etc.

>

> He was mad about something, I have no idea what. Mad at me I think

> because I didn't fix him. We just road it out and it finally went away

> through much prayer to God.

>

> Carolyn

>

> R. Tucker wrote:

> >

> > Restraints was not my first line of defense. But after a year of

> > spending a least an hour cleaning up whatever he's destroyed and the

> > thousand or more dollars, probably even more than that of destruction,

> > what else am I to do. He goes to OT, psychologist, developmental dr.,

> > psychiatrist, etc....many people helping him on a reg. basis, but we

> > cannot seem to figure out why he does this. He says, " His brain tells

> > him to do it. " :( I have not done the restraints yet, but I'm at the

> > verge....I don't want to tie his body to the bed, but maybe just his

> > arms at his sides...

> >

> >

> > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > *From:* Riley <klriley@...

> <mailto:klriley%40alphalink.com.au>>

> > *To:* autism-aspergers

> <mailto:autism-aspergers%40yahoogroups.com>

> > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:32 PM

> > *Subject:* Re: restraints

> >

> >

> > I think restraints would be a bad idea. My son can't stand even

> > having the bedclothes tucked in. I am the same. It's probably the

> > harder solution, but finding out why he wrecks things and fixing that

> > is the better option in the long run.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >>

> >> I have two dressers, a box spring/ mattress combo on the floor, but

> >> he still messes up all that. The mini blinds are ruined. The box

> >> spring and the mattress have holes in them. The window sill he has

> >> actually chewed on like a puppy---wood missing, stuff carved out of

> >> his wooden dresser, etc. I feel like these are the basics but he is

> >> still destroying them :(

> >>

> >>

> >> ----------------------------------------------------------

> >> *From:* Anita <ajayb165@... <mailto:ajayb165%40aol.com>>

> <mailto:ajayb165@... <mailto:ajayb165%40aol.com>>

> >> *To:* autism-aspergers

> <mailto:autism-aspergers%40yahoogroups.com>

> >> <mailto:autism-aspergers

> <mailto:autism-aspergers%40yahoogroups.com>>

> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:01 PM

> >> *Subject:* Re: restraints

> >>

> >>

> >> I think that I have heard that it is better to take all but

> >> necessities out of room....so just a bed, pillow, etc. That is al

> >> that is necessary for sleeping. All other " stuff " is kept in another

> >> room.

> >>

> >> I think I have even heard to just put box spring and mattress

> >> directly on the floor...the only thing to mess up then is sheets...

> >>

> >> Aj

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Re: restraints

> >>

> >>

> >> I've never considered restraints personally because I'd be concerned

> >> in case of fire.

> >>

> >>

> >> >

> >> > Any of you all have to put your son/ daughter in restraints at

> bedtime

> >> > to prevent destruction in their rooms at night? Two to three nights a

> >> > week my son tears his room apart at bedtime. :( Looking into

> Clonadine

> >> > for help with sleep...not sure how well that'll work, but we'll

> see...

> >> >

> >> >

> >>

> >> ------------------------------------

> >>

> >>

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