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Oh, no, Karac is 14 and hasn't been that kind of problem; so I thought maybe we had dodged that bullet, but it sounds like we aren't through it yet. Be sure and let us know what the doctor says. LOL, Pat K************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

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Unfortunately I'm not good at this yet bc my son is only 3 and will be 4 in may. I wish I had the answer. However, if his testosterone is high then a minute amount of estrogen could be substituted or behavioral medicine that releases more seratonin could be used, but again I honestly have not dealt with this so I'm very sorry you are going through this!

alena JJ - Hormones....To: autism-awareness-action , AutismMeds , AutismBehaviorProblems , MoMAMissionPossible , landAutismRecoveryCoalition > Hi all,> Well......... I have to ask something that is a little > embarrasing. J is 19 now.....Of all the things quite "normal" on > him is Hormones!! The problem is "Me". I will get my bath and be > in my pajamias (which is just regular pullover kind) He will try > to life my shirt or grab at my leg. Of course I tell him "No-J". > he will then get mad at me and try or suceed in hitting me! jake > (DH) will grab J and say J-You don't hit your mom! Last night he > did this and Jake said that to him and he got realy upset and > tryed to hit jake.....Which he had never done before. > What to do about this??? i see Dr. Brenner (DAN! Dr.) April > 6th and he is to tell me about j's testosture (sp)? as we did a > blood test last time we were there. Does anyone know of > something to Lower J's hormone level? Thanks alot, Lois> Lois Noland > Always in search for the "cure"> > > > > Lois Noland> > I don't give in> I don't give up> And I don't take no for an answer> Always looking for the "Cure"> > > > > > I don't give in> I don't give up> And I don't take NO for an answer.> > If God Brings you to it,> He will Bring you though it.>

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Can you stay in your street clothes until he goes to bed or wear a tight robe? That might help.

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JJ - Hormones....

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Well........ . I have to ask something that is a little embarrasing. J is 19 now.....Of all the things quite "normal" on him is Hormones!! The problem is "Me". I will get my bath and be in my pajamias (which is just regular pullover kind) He will try to life my shirt or grab at my leg. Of course I tell him "No-J". he will then get mad at me and try or suceed in hitting me! jake (DH) will grab J and say J-You don't hit your mom! Last night he did this and Jake said that to him and he got realy upset and tryed to hit jake.....Which he had never done before.

What to do about this??? i see Dr. Brenner (DAN! Dr.) April 6th and he is to tell me about j's testosture (sp)? as we did a blood test last time we were there. Does anyone know of something to Lower J's hormone level? Thanks alot, Lois

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Lois, How old is J again....it may simply be "growing up" issues that all growing kids have but become exacerbated with our autistic children. I truly do not look forward to GW's hormones kicking in either.....hard enough to deal with as is...I wish you the best of luck....and we will probably be asking you what to do with our sons later :) Aprilajsmith2@... wrote: Unfortunately I'm not good at this yet bc my son is only 3 and will be 4 in

may. I wish I had the answer. However, if his testosterone is high then a minute amount of estrogen could be substituted or behavioral medicine that releases more seratonin could be used, but again I honestly have not dealt with this so I'm very sorry you are going through this! alena JJ - Hormones....To: autism-awareness-action , AutismMeds , AutismBehaviorProblems , MoMAMissionPossible , landAutismRecoveryCoalition > Hi all,> Well......... I have to ask something that is a little > embarrasing. J is 19 now.....Of all the things quite "normal" on > him is Hormones!! The problem is "Me". I will get my bath and be > in my pajamias (which is just

regular pullover kind) He will try > to life my shirt or grab at my leg. Of course I tell him "No-J". > he will then get mad at me and try or suceed in hitting me! jake > (DH) will grab J and say J-You don't hit your mom! Last night he > did this and Jake said that to him and he got realy upset and > tryed to hit jake.....Which he had never done before. > What to do about this??? i see Dr. Brenner (DAN! Dr.) April > 6th and he is to tell me about j's testosture (sp)? as we did a > blood test last time we were there. Does anyone know of > something to Lower J's hormone level? Thanks alot, Lois> Lois Noland > Always in search for the "cure"> > > > > Lois Noland> > I don't give in> I don't give up> And I don't take no for an answer> Always looking for the "Cure"> > > > >

> I don't give in> I don't give up> And I don't take NO for an answer.> > If God Brings you to it,> He will Bring you though it.>

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Lois, I'm not trying to be offensive, but we all know sex is a

normal part of life whether you're ASD or not. Your son is 19, and I

know autistics are a completely different state of being, but I

wonder if he has the sexual 'outlets' a regular teenage guy would

have? Please understand I know nothing about this and my son is

still too young, but I am always curious about these types of issues

in my future and what others have done.

I have been having a similar problem with my son since 4 yrs old and

he's now 8. He likes to touch, poke, and rarely (since I don't let

him) try to put his mouth on my breasts. He would do this to

teachers, aides, strangers at the pool, while wearing this 'happy

little pervert' expression -so when he's thinking it I know what's

coming. I feel I can be completely blunt and honest with everyone

and admit that he would only do this with medium to large-breasted

women since they are obviously more noticable. (Mine are large) It

seemed like at first we were getting nowhere with this. It was just

a great fun game for him and he would even try a quick or sly,

sneaky poke and run -like he was getting points or something! Well,

time out ( which he does well with )didn't work, withholding

privledges didn't work, just saying 'No' and 'Stop It' flopped too.

Finally, two years ago, while trying to pay out in a store and

feeling a little hand creeping from behind which proceeded to grope

me while the salesperson stared in horror I took him outside and

told him 'I don't like it', 'Mommy doesn't like you to touch her

boobies.' I feel like an idiot for not explaining my feelings to him

sooner to give him an actual reason why not to do the behavior. (I

guess I was in the 'not running into traffic phase' or 'don't put

the cat in the microwave phase' that year... Anyway, this seemed to

be a good turning point as he's now 8 and this behavior has

virtually disappeared. I will say I have recently been spending

daily time with a NT 5 yr old who I am having the same problem with

except this child is very aggressive about " copping a feel'. I guess

I'll just get a reduction because I'm tired of being part of

everyone's sensory diet.

I am very glad you brought up this subject because I want to know

more of what to expect after puberty since this change has me

concerned as a turning point in the future. I would love to hear

from some of you who have older autistics about what changes occur

(Autism specific) after puberty, beginning sexuality, etc. I think

we are all tough enough to broach this subject. Anyone's autie have

a girlfriend, etc. and how do you handle it?

In Hope,

Shauna

>

> Hi all,

> Well......... I have to ask something that is a little

embarrasing. J is 19 now.....Of all the things quite " normal " on him

is Hormones!! The problem is " Me " . I will get my bath and be in my

pajamias (which is just regular pullover kind) He will try to life

my shirt or grab at my leg. Of course I tell him " No-J " . he will

then get mad at me and try or suceed in hitting me! jake (DH) will

grab J and say J-You don't hit your mom! Last night he did this and

Jake said that to him and he got realy upset and tryed to hit

jake.....Which he had never done before.

> What to do about this??? i see Dr. Brenner (DAN! Dr.) April 6th

and he is to tell me about j's testosture (sp)? as we did a blood

test last time we were there. Does anyone know of something to Lower

J's hormone level? Thanks alot, Lois

> Lois Noland

> Always in search for the " cure "

>

>

>

>

> Lois Noland

>

> I don't give in

> I don't give up

> And I don't take no for an answer

> Always looking for the " Cure "

>

>

>

>

>

> I don't give in

> I don't give up

> And I don't take NO for an answer.

>

> If God Brings you to it,

> He will Bring you though it.

>

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I haven't had a chance to read through all the replies, but in case

no one has given you this suggestion, I thought I'd throw it in

there. I just recently wrote a social story about sexual behavior

for one of my clients, which I obtained some information from Carol

Gray's website. I talked about personal space, and gave examples

etc, and discussed who has a personal space and what does that mean.

The second book will discuss private parts and touching.

Here's the link that can give you some idea of how to go about

writing a social story about " touching " or Puberty:

http://www.thegraycenter.org/socialstorywriting.cfm

HTH

~Conny

>

> Hi all,

> Well......... I have to ask something that is a little

embarrasing. J is 19 now.....Of all the things quite " normal " on him

is Hormones!! The problem is " Me " . I will get my bath and be in my

pajamias (which is just regular pullover kind) He will try to life

my shirt or grab at my leg. Of course I tell him " No-J " . he will

then get mad at me and try or suceed in hitting me! jake (DH) will

grab J and say J-You don't hit your mom! Last night he did this and

Jake said that to him and he got realy upset and tryed to hit

jake.....Which he had never done before.

> What to do about this??? i see Dr. Brenner (DAN! Dr.) April 6th

and he is to tell me about j's testosture (sp)? as we did a blood

test last time we were there. Does anyone know of something to Lower

J's hormone level? Thanks alot, Lois

> Lois Noland

> Always in search for the " cure "

>

>

>

>

> Lois Noland

>

> I don't give in

> I don't give up

> And I don't take no for an answer

> Always looking for the " Cure "

>

>

>

>

>

> I don't give in

> I don't give up

> And I don't take NO for an answer.

>

> If God Brings you to it,

> He will Bring you though it.

>

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Is he verbal? Masturbation, or touching, is normal, and you don't

want to " punish " it or tell them that it's wrong, as long as they

are in a private area, by themselves then it is ok (and I would tell

them this). I would discuss what is a public place and what is a

private place(schools are public places, your bedroom is a private

place, the hallway is a public place, your bathroom is a private

place and so on), and have them try to come up with some examples. I

would also discuss what is a private part and who is allowed to

touch their private part and when, and that only they can touch

their own private part, not someone else etc. Of course, all of this

is assuming he is verbal. If not, then allow him to do it when he's

alone, and then block and redirect when he's in a public place.

He'll discriminate soon enough :)

~Conny

>

> my son who is 8 has been touching himself downthere too for a

year.. when hes alone i will (having no idea) and hes touching

himself so i leave the room acting like i didnt see a thing... what

are we to do..??? hes not sexual or anything he just likes it...lol

> hes my baby though..hes only 8..

> Re: Re: JJ - Hormones....

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>

> The thought of all this makes my head spin! LOL I am a single

mom of a

> 10 year old son.

> My son is very very early in puberty. He has lots of body hair

and body

> odor, acne, his voice is already craking a bit. THe doc said its

normal

> puberty just early. But I am concernd cause he is a hugger,

squeezer. He

> squeezes, hugs women and its usually acorss the breast area. I

have

> tried to get the " inappropirateness " in his head. No luck,Its

almost

> like the feel comforts him. he also wants to snuggle, sleep with

me

> during the middle of the night. This is a bad habit. Noises

bother him,

> sounds, creaks, wind, the furnace. etc. He will wake up and come

snuggle

> with me. I have to get him back inhis bed. We compromised with a

> sleeping bag on the floor or an extra day bed in his room this

way we

> are not in the same bed. He doesnt try to be sexual. But, his

body is

> very mature and I just feel uncomfortable snuggling with him

like that

> anymore.

>

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Lois,

Do you think the anxiety and depression could come from the fact that they are older and start to realize they are different from others? A behavior therapist I had home visits with once told me she usually sees those feelings emerge later, after puberty. Or do you think there's another trigger (hormonal?) I'm curious because anxiety/depression problems run strong in my family and although every qualified person I've asked says they don't see it in Draeven, they also make comments about it usually showing up later. Also, what are some of the things he 'lost' after puberty?

Sorry if it seems like I'm harping on this subject (puberty), but it's a major turning point and a BIG deadline for me to get his unwanted behaviors under control. I don't want to still be getting hit, bit, and kicked when he's 13. I'm not a china doll but you can only take so much.

Thanks.

In Hope,

Shauna

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