Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 I wonder if this is a reaction to the Melatonin? My son responded to Melatonin well for a while, helping him get to sleep, but after he was on it for a while he would get to sleep then just wake up in the middle of the night, wired. We even tried slow-release Melatonin, but it wasn't any better. Apparently this can be a common side effect with Melatonin. We figured this out recently when my husband had the same reaction Melatonin. My son has been night waking for over a year now. He just wakes and starts video talking. I have heard from many ASD parents that this is common ... what do you think causes it? We've tried melatonin but it's not helping, if anything, he is waking more. Right now I am on a supplement break to see if it something else we are giving him. gfcfmom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Hello How much taurine do you give ? Do you give it just before sleep ? together with the melatonin ? My son needs to take also his tablet of LDN just before sleep. We did the amino acids test at metametrix and indeed it showed that our son needs taurine. My DAN ordered the amino acids powder custom made but meanwhile I would like to give the taurine since school will start in two weeks ( after 9 weeks of holiday). Thanks for your advice ! Katia ( mother of a 7 year old autistic son who is improving a lot since we started DAN protocol a year ago) Belgium, Europe From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of dana pope Sent: zondag 17 augustus 2008 17:06 To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Re: What do you think causes night waking? When the liver is stressed trying to detoxify, it will cause a person to wake up in the night and have trouble going back to sleep. My boys did this forever. Melatonin and 5HTP helped them to go to sleep but they would still wake up any where from 1am to 5am ready to go. We added in Liver Life by BioRay and now they sleep 12-13 hours every night. Dana and Garrett, just turned 4, SCD 2 years Celiac, ASD, Speech and Motor Apraxia, sensory processing disorder From: Fithen <baylee7499> Subject: Re: What do you think causes night waking? To: mb12 valtrex Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 9:16 AM Hi, Melatonin helps you go to sleep, not stay asleep. My son would both lie awake for hours before falling asleep, and would also wake up in the middle of the night, perfectly happy, singing and talking to himself. Using a melatonin/magnesium combo at night helped him stay asleep, giving taurine at night helps him stay asleep. Within a week of adding taurine to his nighttime supps, he stayed asleep for 10 hours for the first time in his life. I know some others have also had success with this - it's worth a shot. > > My son has been night waking for over a year now. He just wakes and starts video talking. I > have heard from many ASD parents that this is common ... what do you think causes it? > > We've tried melatonin but it's not helping, if anything, he is waking more. Right now I am on > a supplement break to see if it something else we are giving him. > > gfcfmom > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Hi, We give 500mgs of taurine at night before bed, along with melatonin/magnesium and our probiotic. You can start at a lower dosage than this though, I think the Kirkman's brand comes in 300 mg capsules. Most of our kids are deficient in taurine. One night last week my husband forgot to give my son these supps before bed, and sure enough, at about 3am he woke up singing " Twinkle Twinkle " which continued for over an hour. Without the taurine he can't stay asleep. Hope this helps you :-) > > Hello > > > > How much taurine do you give ? Do you give it just before sleep ? together > with the melatonin ? My son needs to take also his tablet of LDN just before > sleep. > > > > We did the amino acids test at metametrix and indeed it showed that our son > needs taurine. My DAN ordered the amino acids powder custom made but > meanwhile I would like to give the taurine since school will start in two > weeks ( after 9 weeks of holiday). > > > > Thanks for your advice ! > > > > Katia ( mother of a 7 year old autistic son who is improving a lot since we > started DAN protocol a year ago) > > Belgium, Europe > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Could be reflux. Pamela From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of gfcfmom Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 12:58 AM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: What do you think causes night waking? My son has been night waking for over a year now. He just wakes and starts video talking. I have heard from many ASD parents that this is common ... what do you think causes it? We've tried melatonin but it's not helping, if anything, he is waking more. Right now I am on a supplement break to see if it something else we are giving him. gfcfmom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 The same thing happened with our son after a year of taking slow release melatonin. I took him off of it - after a few days, he slept better, then started waking up again at night, so we put him back on it and now he is fine. I now plan on giving him a break from melatonin every few months for about a week. > > > My son has been night waking for over a year now. He just wakes and > > starts video talking. I > > have heard from many ASD parents that this is common ... what do you think > > causes it? > > > > We've tried melatonin but it's not helping, if anything, he is waking more. > > Right now I am on > > a supplement break to see if it something else we are giving him. > > > > gfcfmom > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 In our experience, night wakings often correlate to a need for antifungals. It means the yeast has taken control....... Especially if night wakings are paired with giggling. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 There is a time-released melatonin, I believe. Also, I have read that those who go to sleep but wake up may do better with 5-htp than melatonin. Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 can mean he has yeast issues or phenol issues as well Recovering from Autism is a marathonNOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!Read more about it on my BLOGs athttp://www.myspace.com/christelkinghttp://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwisheshttp://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=677063169 What do you think causes night waking? My son has been night waking for over a year now. He just wakes and starts video talking. I have heard from many ASD parents that this is common ... what do you think causes it? We've tried melatonin but it's not helping, if anything, he is waking more. Right now I am on a supplement break to see if it something else we are giving him.gfcfmomNo virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.5/1619 - Release Date: 8/18/2008 5:39 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 slow releast treats both GOING asleep and staying asleep Recovering from Autism is a marathonNOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!Read more about it on my BLOGs athttp://www.myspace.com/christelkinghttp://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwisheshttp://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=677063169 Re: What do you think causes night waking? Hi,Melatonin helps you go to sleep, not stay asleep. My son would both lie awake for hours before falling asleep, and would also wake up in the middle of the night, perfectly happy, singing and talking to himself.Using a melatonin/magnesium combo at night helped him stay asleep, giving taurine at night helps him stay asleep. Within a week of adding taurine to his nighttime supps, he stayed asleep for 10 hours for the first time in his life. I know some others have also had success with this - it's worth a shot. >> My son has been night waking for over a year now. He just wakes and starts video talking. I > have heard from many ASD parents that this is common ... what do you think causes it? > > We've tried melatonin but it's not helping, if anything, he is waking more. Right now I am on > a supplement break to see if it something else we are giving him.> > gfcfmom>No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.5/1619 - Release Date: 8/18/2008 5:39 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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