Women menstrual cyclus and training

[Guest guest]

One week ago we talked about daily variable fitness on our faculty

(there is different strength at different time of day according to

your time of training) and my colegue asked our teacher Vladimir

Koprivica about women " problems " and training and differences in

their fitness (or should I say preparedness?)level according to their

menstrual day. He stated that in " bloody " days women should not

training in aerobic zone nor in activities involving high intra-

abdominal pressure but should engage in anaerobic(?)-speed activities

and motor learning! Can you say me more about this issue in sport

training?

Mladen Jovanovic

Faculty of sports and physical education

Belgrade

Serbia and Monte Negro

[Guest guest]

On first reading i was somewhat speechless.

I would take something with " high intra-abdominal pressure " as precluding

deadlifting in particular, specifically maximum singles on the platform.

Let me just say this. It varies with the individual woman, a generality

such as this instructor has made to ALL women should be avoided!

Over my career on the platform, I find that I can pull as well during my

period as I can without it. After all, they don't schedule the competitions

by consulting me as to whether I am in that particular physical phase or

not!

Were I to permit such physical unease to stop me from my workouts on the way

to the platform as well, I would not be able to meet my goals. A certain

amount of physical toughness and mental calm is needed when the body is not

100% BUT you can also have some of your most intense AND productive workouts

under adverse conditions.

Can we lay some of the stupidity surrounding training women to rest please?

With astonishment at such instruction,

The Phantom

aka Schaefer, CMT, CSCS, competing powerlifter

Denver, Colorado, USA

It was written:

>

> One week ago we talked about daily variable fitness on our faculty

> (there is different strength at different time of day according to

> your time of training) and my colegue asked our teacher Vladimir

> Koprivica about women " problems " and training and differences in

> their fitness (or should I say preparedness?)level according to their

> menstrual day. He stated that in " bloody " days women should not

> training in aerobic zone nor in activities involving high intra-

> abdominal pressure but should engage in anaerobic(?)-speed activities

> and motor learning! Can you say me more about this issue in sport

> training?

>

> Mladen Jovanovic

> Faculty of sports and physical education

> Belgrade

> Serbia and Monte Negro

>

[Guest guest]

Wow , I completely agree with you regarding the should I

shouldn't I workout during " that time " ....I have a friend that

listens to her boyfriends advise and won't go near the gym " that

week " . When in doubt " workout " is my motto. I never regret working

out no matter what is going on with my body...

' Gagne'

Quincy Ma

>

> On first reading i was somewhat speechless.

>

> I would take something with " high intra-abdominal pressure " as

precluding

> deadlifting in particular, specifically maximum singles on the

platform.

>

> Let me just say this. It varies with the individual woman, a

generality

> such as this instructor has made to ALL women should be avoided!

>

> Over my career on the platform, I find that I can pull as well

during my

> period as I can without it. After all, they don't schedule the

competitions

> by consulting me as to whether I am in that particular physical

phase or

> not!

>

> Were I to permit such physical unease to stop me from my workouts

on the way

> to the platform as well, I would not be able to meet my goals. A

certain

> amount of physical toughness and mental calm is needed when the

body is not

> 100% BUT you can also have some of your most intense AND

productive workouts

> under adverse conditions.

>

> Can we lay some of the stupidity surrounding training women to

rest please?

>

> With astonishment at such instruction,

>

> The Phantom

> aka Schaefer, CMT, CSCS, competing powerlifter

> Denver, Colorado, USA

>

> It was written:

> >

> > One week ago we talked about daily variable fitness on our

faculty

> > (there is different strength at different time of day according

to

> > your time of training) and my colegue asked our teacher Vladimir

> > Koprivica about women " problems " and training and differences in

> > their fitness (or should I say preparedness?)level according to

their

> > menstrual day. He stated that in " bloody " days women should not

> > training in aerobic zone nor in activities involving high intra-

> > abdominal pressure but should engage in anaerobic(?)-speed

activities

> > and motor learning! Can you say me more about this issue in sport

> > training?

> >

> > Mladen Jovanovic

> > Faculty of sports and physical education

> > Belgrade

> > Serbia and Monte Negro

> >

[Guest guest]

, while I agree that generalities applying to " all women " should be

avoided there is no doubt that women do have concerns that men don't in

regard to training and the menses.

Many women who train hard do find they have problems with various forms of

reproductive dysfunction, as well as cessation of menses. The cessation of

menses can lead to bone loss. Here is an article that sees a link between

low energy during training and the menstrual cycle.

Here is the link: http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/86/11/5184

Other studies have found a link between exercise during menses and

endometriosis. I disagree as I personally feel it is a hormonal imbalance

of too much estrogen and not enough Progesterone. Low progesterone can be a

symptom of the cessation of the menses. Dr. Lee is a great resource

(http://www.johnleemd.com) in this area of research.

I *do* feel that as a woman I have concerns that need to be addressed, yet I

remain skeptical and cautious of all the " advice " given for our situations.

We each must do our research and make intelligent choices for our health.

Lori Fields

Georgia, USA

-----Original Message-----

From: Schaefer

On first reading i was somewhat speechless.

Let me just say this. It varies with the individual woman, a generality

such as this instructor has made to ALL women should be avoided!

Can we lay some of the stupidity surrounding training women to rest

please?

With astonishment at such instruction,

The Phantom

aka Schaefer, CMT, CSCS, competing powerlifter

Denver, Colorado, USA