Guest guest Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 Jerome Well I can almost guarantee you will put on that much and more from the creatine an protein. Creatine is a great supplement for both size and strength. As far as the effervesent goes though I have not noticed it to be better than regular powder just more expensive. Some say a loading phase is necessary but from experience and other research it is not. As far as protein try and drink it as soon as you can after finishing a workout. I also recommend it just before bed so it helps the body repair during sleep. I have not really noticed a difference with HMB and the studies I have seen show it is really only beneficial during times when you are really cutting total calories, such as when a bodybuilder is just a few weeks from a comp. As for brand names my personal favorite is Pro Lab. I seem to get my best results when using them. Also Optimum Nutrition semms to work pretty well and it is also less expensive than most brands. Lawrence Haltom City Texas Jerome Delancey wrote: <<This is my first post. I'm interested in puting on five to eight pounds of muscle in the next eight weeks. I've been reading lots of conflicting information about taking effervescent creatine, HMB and protein powders. Can anyone give suggestions on how much and when I should take these suplements for best results? Also, what brands are clinically proven.>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Jerome, Some supplements work very well, others don't. I keep an open mind to supplements, but depending on your specific situation you made not need to spend the money on them. With hard work and good eating habits you could easily put on .5-1.0 lbs of mass per week in 8 weeks to reach your goal without the supplements, particularly if you haven't been training for a long time. Of course, if you are an experienced lifter and have already experienced significant hypertrophy it will be more challenging. If you want to put on weight the most important factor outside training is getting enough calories. Of the two suppplements creatine is the more thoroughly researched of the two, and therefore is deemed most " effective " . It works for " most " people, as individual differences rule the day when it comes to training programs, nutrition, and supplementation. The most effective time to take creatine is after workouts with some type of simple/high glycemic index sugar (i.e. found in most sports drinks) as the insulin spike may aid in the transport of the creatine into muscle cells. Of the different variants on the market, creatine monohydrate (cm) in a powder form are most widely studied and " effective " . A recent study by Gill et al. (2004) in the journal of strength and conditioning research found (cm) to be more effective than creatine serum. There is also some resaerch comparing cm powder to effervescent creatine but I can't quote it off the top of my head. as for the HMB, there is much less research on it, but anecdotally, many use it in conjunction with a carb/protein drink immediately post workout. I hate to plug any products I haven't used personally but the major brands such as EAS, MET-RX, Biotest, etc. make very high quality products from others I have spoken to. Using supplements is a big decision. Although the two you speak of are generally thought of as " safe " , you will still be ingesting quantities that are nearly impossible to ingest through " regular " foods. The most important thing is to make an informed choice. if you want to examine the research yourself I would start at PubMed (a " search engine " for peer reviewed scientific journals) at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/. Hope thats a good start. Roe, CSCS University of Wisconsin La Crosse La Crosse, WI Jerome Delancey <welder20002@y...> wrote: > I've been reading lots of > conflicting information about taking > effervescent creatine, HMB and protein powders. > Can anyone give suggestions on how much and when I > should take these suplements for best results? Also, what brands > are clinically proven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 , I know of a well-respected Strength Coach who has his own machine that tests protein powders. EAS, Biotest, and Met-RX are among the worst. From my understanding the companies that rely upon advertising are the ones to avoid. Champion, Beverly International, Weider were among the best companies, however, this Coach noticed differences between the same brand, same flavor, same bottle size, same store, etc. Joe Sports Performance Scituate, MA. Roe wrote: <<I hate to plug any products I haven't used personally but the major brands such as EAS, MET-RX, Biotest, etc. make very high quality products from others I have spoken to.>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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