Guest guest Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 I know someone that has lost about 70 lbs on a 1200 kcal diet and with exercise of about 2 hrs a day 5-6 days a week and she lifts 3 times a week. She has not lost any weight for the last 1.5 months. She is concerned and she feels really bad that she is not losing anymore. I have suggested to her to pump up her calories over the next few weeks. Take a week off from her aerobic exercise and then when she restarts to only go about 45 mins tops but go higher intensity. I was hoping that someone has some good ideas and some experience in overcoming such plateaus and what she should do to overcome this and start losing her body fat at a good rate. Tollison Salt lake city, utah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Losing 70 lbs is no small feat and she should be encouraged that she is among the few who have managed to achieve this goal. She is obviously not at her goal yet but she has to be patient. Her body is adjusting to the new weight. Her metabolism has changed. A weight loss of 70 lbs means that she need 400 less calories daily to maintain her present weight. For survival reasons we unfortunately have built in safeguards against losing weight. Whenever a patient of mine comes with the complaint that they are following a diet and exercising and cannot seem to lose weight I ask them to keep a daily diary of their food intake paying particular attention to the number of calories. I also ask them to keep a diary of their daily activities. How many hours of rest (lying down) , how many hours are sedentary and how many hours are light activity (standing or casually walking) besides the time spent exercising. In most cases if they keep a diary when they return for their next office visit they will have lost weight. Most of us tend to under estimate how many calories we actually consume and we tend to overestimate how many calories we burn in 24 hours. Many of us would be surprised how much time we spend in a 24 hour period either resting (lying down) or seated. Studies have shown that individuals who are lean burn on average about 300-400 more calories in daily spontaneous activity , than individuals who are overweight or obese. That 300-400 calories translates to 30-40 lbs yearly. You do not mention this persons age or her present weight. As we age our metabolism slows down for many reasons and it becomes more difficult (not impossible) to lose the weight we have gained. You did not mention what kind of diet she is following. If she is following a low carb diet she may have become hypothyroid. Studies have shown that when you severely restrict your carb intake the thyroid hormone becomes hypoactive. With low carb diets the body uses protein to supply the necessary glucose for the brain. The brain requires approximately 90 grams a day to function. When this is not supplied in the diet the body makes glucose in the liver by converting protein to glucose by way of a process called gluconeogenesis. The brain is the only organ in our body that cannot use fat for its metabolism. I would suggest to that individual that she be patient and encouraged by her remarkable achievement. That she keep a daily diary for at least 2-3 weeks of all her activities and calorie intake. And that she be sure to take in adequate Carbs (in the form of fruits and vegetables) as well as adequate protein. Ralph Giarnella MD Southington Ct USA --- lehi53 wrote: > > > I know someone that has lost about 70 lbs on a 1200 > kcal diet and > with exercise of about 2 hrs a day 5-6 days a week > and she lifts 3 > times a week. She has not lost any weight for the > last 1.5 months. > She is concerned and she feels really bad that she > is not losing > anymore. I have suggested to her to pump up her > calories over the > next few weeks. Take a week off from her aerobic > exercise and then > when she restarts to only go about 45 mins tops but > go higher > intensity. I was hoping that someone has some good > ideas and some > experience in overcoming such plateaus and what she > should do to > overcome this and start losing her body fat at a > good rate. > > Tollison > Salt lake city, utah > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Ya'll probably would want to read The Ketogenic Diet by Lyle Mc. I was surprised how detailed it is and backed up by hundreds of references. Keep it in mind, it's nothing you'd expect. Think of it as an advanced nutrition course for fat loss. Lyle advocates " free meals " or " refeeding " depending on the individuals but nothing very strict like those over hyped diet books you see on the shelves. It should give you some ideas on how to modifiy the diet to keep the fat progress humming. It might be a boring reading for some people though. Lol. Like I said, it's like reading a textbook for advanced nutrition class for fat loss. Impressive book though. I wished I bought it years ago. At first, I thought it was just one of those gimmicks and it turned out to be that's not the case. Oh well. Louis Truett, Arlington Tx > > > > > > > I know someone that has lost about 70 lbs on a 1200 > > kcal diet and > > with exercise of about 2 hrs a day 5-6 days a week > > and she lifts 3 > > times a week. She has not lost any weight for the > > last 1.5 months. > > She is concerned and she feels really bad that she > > is not losing > > anymore. I have suggested to her to pump up her > > calories over the > > next few weeks. Take a week off from her aerobic > > exercise and then > > when she restarts to only go about 45 mins tops but > > go higher > > intensity. I was hoping that someone has some good > > ideas and some > > experience in overcoming such plateaus and what she > > should do to > > overcome this and start losing her body fat at a > > good rate. > > > > Tollison > > Salt lake city, utah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Dr Gianella where did you get that the brain needs 90 grams of glucose daily? Thank You Serrano Columbus Ohio In a message dated 02/13/05 3:46:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, ragiarn@... writes: Whenever a patient of mine comes with the complaint that they are following a diet and exercising and cannot seem to lose weight I ask them to keep a daily diary of their food intake paying particular attention to the number of calories. I also ask them to keep a diary of their daily activities. How many hours of rest (lying down) , how many hours are sedentary and how many hours are light activity (standing or casually walking) besides the time spent exercising. In most cases if they keep a diary when they return for their next office visit they will have lost weight. Most of us tend to under estimate how many calories we actually consume and we tend to overestimate how many calories we burn in 24 hours. Many of us would be surprised how much time we spend in a 24 hour period either resting (lying down) or seated. Studies have shown that individuals who are lean burn on average about 300-400 more calories in daily spontaneous activity , than individuals who are overweight or obese. That 300-400 calories translates to 30-40 lbs yearly. You do not mention this persons age or her present weight. As we age our metabolism slows down for many reasons and it becomes more difficult (not impossible) to lose the weight we have gained. You did not mention what kind of diet she is following. If she is following a low carb diet she may have become hypothyroid. Studies have shown that when you severely restrict your carb intake the thyroid hormone becomes hypoactive. With low carb diets the body uses protein to supply the necessary glucose for the brain. The brain requires approximately 90 grams a day to function. When this is not supplied in the diet the body makes glucose in the liver by converting protein to glucose by way of a process called gluconeogenesis. The brain is the only organ in our body that cannot use fat for its metabolism. I would suggest to that individual that she be patient and encouraged by her remarkable achievement. That she keep a daily diary for at least 2-3 weeks of all her activities and calorie intake. And that she be sure to take in adequate Carbs (in the form of fruits and vegetables) as well as adequate protein. Ralph Giarnella MD Southington Ct USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 In a message dated 1/25/2005 4:51:38 A.M. Central Standard Time, lehi52@... writes: I know someone that has lost about 70 lbs on a 1200 kcal diet and with exercise of about 2 hrs a day 5-6 days a week and she lifts 3 times a week. She has not lost any weight for the last 1.5 months. She is concerned and she feels really bad that she is not losing anymore. I have suggested to her to pump up her calories over the next few weeks. Take a week off from her aerobic exercise and then when she restarts to only go about 45 mins tops but go higher intensity. I was hoping that someone has some good ideas and some experience in overcoming such plateaus and what she should do to overcome this and start losing her body fat at a good rate. Tollison Salt lake city, utah She needs to eat more and sleep more. kson, CST Minneapolis, MN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Although I am not a dietician, I am certified as a Lifestyle and Weight Management Consultant by ACE, and I have been administering RMR tests for almost a year (using indirect calorimetry with a MetaCheck), and I see this same situation all the time. The initial reduction in calories leads to big weight loss, followed by a plateau. Increasing exercise doesn't make an impact as the body is conserving fat for long-term storage during the perceived " famine " . You're on the right track telling your client to increase her calorie intake as 1200 claories is probably below her RMR, however in order to know how much she should increase her calories, I recommend that you refer her to someone who can test her metabolism. BodyGem, MetaCheck and New Leaf are a few of the companies that sell RMR testing devices. In fact, Korr Medical, manufacturer of MetaCheck, is based in Salt Lake City (http://www.korr.com/) If she doesn't want to get an RMR test, you can estimate her RMR using the -Benedict equation: BW = body weight in kilograms, HT = height in cm, Age in years Men: RMR = 66.473 + 13.751*BW + 5.0033*HT - 6.755*Age Women: RMR = 655.0955 + 9.463*BW + 1.8496*HT - 4.6756*Age Next, multiply her RMR by 0.3 (30%) to estimate the additional calories she burns during daily activity. (It might be slighly more or less, depending on her lifestyle, but 30% is a good ballpark number). Finally, add an estimate of calories burned during exercise (there are many resources to estimate this). The total represents her total calories burned per day. (Obviously, on days she doesn't exercise, you would just use RMR plus .3 x RMR). In order to estimate her optimum calorie intake, you need to use her RMR as the minimum amount of calories. Eating below this level will not meet her body's baseline nutritional needs. If she is below this level (which I suspect), get her to *slowly* increase calories to her RMR. This will probably be scary for her due to fear of regained weight, but I tell clients to add the calories before and after exercise. This ensures they're getting adequate fuel for their workouts as well as replacing lost glycogen afterwards. There's no set formula to increase the caloric intake, but try 100 calories before a workout (1-3 hours pre-exercise) and 100 calories afterwards (30-60 minutes). Gradually keep increasing calories until she is at least eating her RMR in calories. It's important to monitor body fat composition during this increase to ensure that she's not storing additional fat. She may see a slight weight gain due to water retention, but that should flush out in a week or so. Also, ensure that she's eating complex carbs. If she's on a low-carb diet, she needs to start adding more complex carbs. The next step would be to continue to add calories until she's about eating 250-1000 fewer than her total calories burned, using the above calculations, again no less than RMR. At this caloric intake, she should start to see a loss of 1/2 - 2 pounds per week. Keep in mind that her RMR will likely decrease as she loses more weight (she has less mass), so you can re-calculate her intake if she hits another plateau. As far as reducing her aerobic exercise, it might be a good idea for her to take it easy for a week or two to let her body recover, or to try shorter bouts with intervals, but studies show that people with long-term success in losing weight and keeping it off burn about 2000 calories per week through exercise. Best Regards, Peggy Bowes Mesa, AZ www.meta-test.com Re: Breaking Weight loss plateus In a message dated 1/25/2005 4:51:38 A.M. Central Standard Time, lehi52@... writes: I know someone that has lost about 70 lbs on a 1200 kcal diet and with exercise of about 2 hrs a day 5-6 days a week and she lifts 3 times a week. She has not lost any weight for the last 1.5 months. She is concerned and she feels really bad that she is not losing anymore. I have suggested to her to pump up her calories over the next few weeks. Take a week off from her aerobic exercise and then when she restarts to only go about 45 mins tops but go higher intensity. I was hoping that someone has some good ideas and some experience in overcoming such plateaus and what she should do to overcome this and start losing her body fat at a good rate. Tollison Salt lake city, utah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 By far the easiest and most accurate way to measure caloric expenditure is with the Bodymedia armband devices. It's simple and easy to use and gives you actual calories burned, calories burned through activity, steps taken, and a host of other information rather than just RMR, which is only marginally useful at best. Using the armbands is much more useful than any standard equations and they are very affordable. Check out www.bodymedia.com for more information son Kirkland, WA EndZone Athletics Re: Breaking Weight loss plateus In a message dated 1/25/2005 4:51:38 A.M. Central Standard Time, lehi52@... writes: I know someone that has lost about 70 lbs on a 1200 kcal diet and with exercise of about 2 hrs a day 5-6 days a week and she lifts 3 times a week. She has not lost any weight for the last 1.5 months. She is concerned and she feels really bad that she is not losing anymore. I have suggested to her to pump up her calories over the next few weeks. Take a week off from her aerobic exercise and then when she restarts to only go about 45 mins tops but go higher intensity. I was hoping that someone has some good ideas and some experience in overcoming such plateaus and what she should do to overcome this and start losing her body fat at a good rate. Tollison Salt lake city, utah Modify or cancel your subscription here: http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups Don't forget to sign all letters with full name and city of residence if you wish them to be published! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Interesting product line but unfortunately at this time they won't even give a person a PRICE! see the sites for details. They have a " shipment hold " right now, apparently demand has outpaced their ability to produce these units. If the claims are accurate then it may be of great use especially when making weight class and other rather refined changes in body composition. The Phantom aka Schaefer, CMT, CSCS, competing powerlifter Denver, Colorado, USA It was written: > > By far the easiest and most accurate way to measure caloric expenditure is > with the Bodymedia armband devices. It's simple and easy to use and gives > you actual calories burned, calories burned through activity, steps taken, > and a host of other information rather than just RMR, which is only > marginally useful at best. Using the armbands is much more useful than any > standard equations and they are very affordable. Check out > www.bodymedia.com for more information > > son > Kirkland, WA > EndZone Athletics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 , You must have gone through bodymedia site to the part where Roche is marketing their online program, the armbands are still readily available through the Bodymedia company directly and Apex has just launched their own version of the program as well using the armbands, although personally I'm not the biggest fan of Apex myself. Bodymedia sells the armband and a copy of their wearer software for $599 I believe. There is also a company out of land working on a shirt that you wear that records and tracks similar and even more data, www.sensatex.com but it won't be released until the end of this year son EndZone Athletics Kirkland, WA Re: Breaking Weight loss plateus Interesting product line but unfortunately at this time they won't even give a person a PRICE! see the sites for details. They have a " shipment hold " right now, apparently demand has outpaced their ability to produce these units. If the claims are accurate then it may be of great use especially when making weight class and other rather refined changes in body composition. The Phantom aka Schaefer, CMT, CSCS, competing powerlifter Denver, Colorado, USA It was written: > > By far the easiest and most accurate way to measure caloric expenditure is > with the Bodymedia armband devices. It's simple and easy to use and gives > you actual calories burned, calories burned through activity, steps taken, > and a host of other information rather than just RMR, which is only > marginally useful at best. Using the armbands is much more useful than any > standard equations and they are very affordable. Check out > www.bodymedia.com for more information > > son > Kirkland, WA > EndZone Athletics Modify/cancel your subscription at: http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups Sign all letters with full name & city of residence if you wish them to be published! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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