RE: eyev & underwater power cleans!

[Guest guest]

Colleagues,

<<There is a picture in the Vasily eyev gallery at the following

URL you have to see to believe. Look at the bottom of this page:

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Field/7342/Alxv1.html

The accompanying caption reads:Vasily had many unusual training

techniques. Among them, lifting weights in the river Don. Ivanov

writes, " This is what it looked like. eyev dove down. Several

seconds later his dark-haired head emerged from the water, then the

barbell. Fromthe discs, as from a bucket, flowed the murky yellow

water of the Don. " >>

**Hi

The latter supplemental training method is also briefly mentioned in

the following article:

http://www.elitefitnesssystems.com/documents/SCIENCE_OF_WINNING_%

20ACCORDING_TO_VASILI_ALEXEYEV.htm

Another form of 'imperfection training' if you train in the sea?

Best regards

Carruthers

Wakefield, UK

[Guest guest]

Colleagues,

<<There is a picture in the Vasily eyev gallery at the following

URL you have to see to believe. Look at the bottom of this page:

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Field/7342/Alxv1.html

The accompanying caption reads:Vasily had many unusual training

techniques. Among them, lifting weights in the river Don. Ivanov

writes, " This is what it looked like. eyev dove down. Several

seconds later his dark-haired head emerged from the water, then the

barbell. Fromthe discs, as from a bucket, flowed the murky yellow

water of the Don. " >>

**Hi

The latter supplemental training method is also briefly mentioned in

the following article:

http://www.elitefitnesssystems.com/documents/SCIENCE_OF_WINNING_%

20ACCORDING_TO_VASILI_ALEXEYEV.htm

Another form of 'imperfection training' if you train in the sea?

Best regards

Carruthers

Wakefield, UK

[Guest guest]

Considering that eyev was one of the strongest men of his time, I

couldn't help but notice that he also chose to use kettlebells in his OL

training (the picture of him " toying with a 72 pound weight " ). It would

appear to me that he is performing a high pull/snatch--I would guess as a

dynamic warmup for him.

The " hype " that was mentioned about kettlebells is true, it has gotten out

of hand. Too many people regurgitate the marketing claims made by various

people in the business (sound familiar?). It is somewhat embarrassing to

me as a kettlebell user. I use kettlebells and clubbells in my training

and have no interest in barbell and/or dumbbell training anymore. Do I

feel stronger and more capable athletically since using them exclusively?

Absolutely. Would I still use barbells and dumbbells in my training if my

GOALS required it? Absolutely. This is based on my personal experience

with them--no studies involved.

My issue is with those who question the use/existence of kettlebells

without ever having tried them--ignorance, for lack of a better word. I

know that Mel tried them and wasn't that fond of them. Good for him, at

least he had a foot to stand on in stating that opinion. A lack of

knowledge in kettlebell use was exemplified well in the post from the

person who did all of the calculations comparing a side lateral raise with

a dumbbell versus a kettlebell. Key point here is that no one who

understood the proper use of kettlebells would ever do a side lateral raise

with them.

As per my understanding from my Ukrainian friend, kettlebells have always

been omnipresent in the gyms of Russia. Still are today. The solid ones,

and only in three weights--16 kg, 24 kg, and 32 kg. The plate-loaded and

hollow kettlebells are great for those obsessed with " progressive

resistance " and limit strength in the swing and high pull. However, the

non-solid kettlebells are ill-suited for the bread and butter exercises of

kettlebell training, the single and/or double kettlebell snatches and clean

& jerks. Note that IronMind advises against performing the snatch and C & J

with their plate-loaded kettlebell.

Tsatsouline references quite a few Russian studies on kettlebells in his

book " The Russian Kettlebell Challenge " for those who need to see research.

Or one could try kettlebells and see why they are such a nice change from

barbells/dumbbells that kettlebell users get so fervent about them here in

the US.

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Garrett RKC NMS CSCS BS

www.ActivePotential.com

Tempe, Arizona

[Guest guest]

Mr. Plisk...That was awesome. Cleans in the water. WOW!!!

Steve M.Ed., CSCS, USAW

Faculty Instructor

School of Health Sciences and Human Performance

Lynchburg College

eyev & underwater power cleans!

Colleagues,

There is a picture in the Vasily eyev gallery at the following URL you

have to

see to believe. Look at the bottom of this page:

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Field/7342/Alxv1.html

<http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Field/7342/Alxv1.html>

The accompanying caption reads:

Vasily had many unusual training techniques. Among them, lifting weights in the

river Don. Ivanov writes, " This is what it looked like. eyev dove down.

Several

seconds later his dark-haired head emerged from the water, then the barbell.

From

the discs, as from a bucket, flowed the murky yellow water of the Don. "

Plisk

Velocity Sports Performance

Fairfield County, CT