Re: Lifting iron for the Wushu athlete

[Guest guest]

Hi Angelo!

Sounds like you are on the right track. Be sure to include

exercises such as squats and pulling (deadlift, cleans).

Good luck!

Dan Wathen,

Youngstown (OH) State University

Ohio, USA

In Supertraining , " angiablo " <martialwater@h...>

wrote:

> I'm a (modern) Wushu athlete from The Netherlands who wants to get

> the biggest bang for his buck.

>

> Don't know who are familiar with '(modern) wushu', but for the

> ones who are not, a vid:

> ...

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reply Dan.

But could you help me out with some more specific questions too?

After a lot of reading I decided to go for the conjugated

method/westside.

But like I already said, im lifting only twice a week, instead of

the usual 4 days a week (westside).

And therefore I don't know how to organize my training?

Instead of splitting the lower and upper body I could do twice full

body? Or should I work in a 2 week scheme?

Any other ideas, by anyone, on how to organize my training are

welcome.

Second, I've just read:

http://www.usa-gymnastics.org/publications/technique/1996/8/strength-

training.html

On one hand it was quite useful but on the other hand it rose a

question.

The article says:

" One of the most important insights of modern training is that a

highly developed level of strength cannot be maintained even by

intensive performance of the event itself (Bührle and Werner, 1984).

This insight has proven to be true in such very different events as

swimming, cross-country skiing, and gymnastics. Gymnastics alone

will not develop nor even maintain an adequate level of strength for

advanced gymnastics (Oppel, 1967). Special conditioning must be

performed, besides countless elements, combinations, parts, and full

routines. Inconsistent strength training can explain the decline in

performance, or at least the stagnation, of a number of athletes who

had promising performances during the preparatory season. Once those

athletes started to compete, their results did not live up to these

expectations (Bührle and Werner, 1984). Gymnastics specialists have

warned against decreasing strength training during the competition

season (Borrmann, 1978: Hartig and Buchmann, 1988; Plotkin, Rubin

and Arkaev, 1983; Ukran, 1969). "

I don't quite get this. How can the needed level of strength not be maintained

by the performance of the event itself?

The needed level of strength is the amount of strength needed in the

event right? (why need more?)

Therefore it can be developed and maintained with the performance of

the event in my eyes...

Who can enlighten this?

Angelo Pay

Amsterdam

Netherlands, The

> > I'm a (modern) Wushu athlete from The Netherlands who wants to

get

> > the biggest bang for his buck.

> >

> > Don't know who are familiar with '(modern) wushu', but for the

> > ones who are not, a vid:

> > ...

[Guest guest]

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Hi Angelo!

I would give all the variations of heavy/light days training a place

in my training. Try the two full body workouts during a competitive

period and then try the 4 day upper/lower during an off-season,

preparatory period. Variation is critical to continued success.

I suspect what the authors in the gymnastic studies were trying to

convey is that for adding higher levels of strength to be successful

at higher levels of gymnastic skills more than just bodyweight

exercises have to be employed in training.

Best wishes!

Dan Wathen, Youngstown (OH) State University, USA

In Supertraining , " angiablo " <martialwater@h...>

wrote:

> Thanks for the reply Dan.

>

> But could you help me out with some more specific questions too?

>

> After a lot of reading I decided to go for the conjugated

> method/westside.

> But like I already said, im lifting only twice a week, instead of

> the usual 4 days a week (westside).

> And therefore I don't know how to organize my training?

>

> Instead of splitting the lower and upper body I could do twice

full

> body? Or should I work in a 2 week scheme?

>

> Any other ideas, by anyone, on how to organize my training are

> welcome.

>

> Second, I've just read:

> http://www.usa-

gymnastics.org/publications/technique/1996/8/strength-

> training.html

>

> On one hand it was quite useful but on the other hand it rose a

> question.

>

> The article says:

> " One of the most important insights of modern training is that a

> highly developed level of strength cannot be maintained even by

> intensive performance of the event itself (Bührle and Werner,

1984).

> This insight has proven to be true in such very different events

as

> swimming, cross-country skiing, and gymnastics. Gymnastics alone

> will not develop nor even maintain an adequate level of strength

for

> advanced gymnastics (Oppel, 1967). Special conditioning must be

> performed, besides countless elements, combinations, parts, and

full

> routines. Inconsistent strength training can explain the decline

in

> performance, or at least the stagnation, of a number of athletes

who

> had promising performances during the preparatory season. Once

those

> athletes started to compete, their results did not live up to

these

> expectations (Bührle and Werner, 1984). Gymnastics specialists

have

> warned against decreasing strength training during the competition

> season (Borrmann, 1978: Hartig and Buchmann, 1988; Plotkin, Rubin

> and Arkaev, 1983; Ukran, 1969). "

>

> I don't quite get this. How can the needed level of strength not

be maintained by the performance of the event itself?

> The needed level of strength is the amount of strength needed in

the

> event right? (why need more?)

>

> Therefore it can be developed and maintained with the performance

of

> the event in my eyes...

>

> Who can enlighten this?

>

>

> Angelo Pay

> Amsterdam

> Netherlands, The

>

>

>

> > > I'm a (modern) Wushu athlete from The Netherlands who wants to

> get

> > > the biggest bang for his buck.

> > >

> > > Don't know who are familiar with '(modern) wushu', but for the

> > > ones who are not, a vid:

> > > ...