Westside methods (conjugate) for sprint cycling off season?

[Guest guest]

Hi all!

I was recently introduced to the apparent marvels of the conjugate

method from Louis . I'm not a powerlifter but I'm into a

power sport : sprint cycling. I'm also working in the physical

preparation of a boxer I know. That said, I noticed that those

powerlifters are lifting all year round. They train on almost the

same tools that they compete (bars, various weights).

For a sprint cyclist(wich, by the way resemble the training of a

track and field sprinter amd a 800m runner) or a boxer, how could

that method be applied to the in-season? Both usually don't lift

much in-season or near an important combat. The westside method

seems to imply that strength progress can be obtained all years long,

thus " maintaining " and even improving all qualities without burning

out the CNS.

Would it be in the same patterns but simply less volume and more

intensity? I'm not sure I know how to approach this issue.

Thanks in advance!

Laforest

Chambly, Québec, Canada

[Guest guest]

,

Why not ask the Westside guys themselves?

You can reach them at elitefitnesssystems.com in the " ask Dave " Q & A section.

My opinion however would be to focus on the speed box squats and lower body

assistance work ((glute hams, reverse hypers) and to back off on the max effort

exercises.

Kirschen

Velocity Sports Performance

Trumbull ct, USA

Laforest wrote:

>I was recently introduced to the apparent marvels of the conjugate

>method from Louis . I'm not a powerlifter but I'm into a

>power sport : sprint cycling. I'm also working in the physical

>preparation of a boxer I know. That said, I noticed that those

>powerlifters are lifting all year round. They train on almost the

>same tools that they compete (bars, various weights).

>

>For a sprint cyclist(wich, by the way resemble the training of a

>track and field sprinter amd a 800m runner) or a boxer, how could

>that method be applied to the in-season? Both usually don't lift

>much in-season or near an important combat. The westside method

>seems to imply that strength progress can be obtained all years long,

>thus " maintaining " and even improving all qualities without burning

>out the CNS.

>

>Would it be in the same patterns but simply less volume and more

>intensity? I'm not sure I know how to approach this issue.

[Guest guest]

I believe we need more explanation of the exact conjugate method used before it

can be related to other athletes. Sprinters and others should follow a better

periodization plan and work more on the coupling of technique with strength,

speed and power. Powerlifters do not have as great a demand on technique with

strength.

Even though strength can be increased year round, working on it twelve months

out of the year, in my opinion, is erroneous. It will lead to stagnation and

increased frequency of injuries.

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Yessis, Ph.D

President, Sports Training, Inc.

www.dryessis.com

PO Box 460429

Escondido, CA 92046

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Laforest wrote:

> I was recently introduced to the apparent marvels of the conjugate

> method from Louis . I'm not a powerlifter but I'm into a

> power sport : sprint cycling. I'm also working in the physical

> preparation of a boxer I know. That said, I noticed that those

> powerlifters are lifting all year round. They train on almost the

> same tools that they compete (bars, various weights).

>

> For a sprint cyclist(wich, by the way resemble the training of a

> track and field sprinter amd a 800m runner) or a boxer, how could

> that method be applied to the in-season? Both usually don't lift

> much in-season or near an important combat. The westside method

> seems to imply that strength progress can be obtained all years long,

> thus " maintaining " and even improving all qualities without burning

> out the CNS.

>

> Would it be in the same patterns but simply less volume and more

> intensity? I'm not sure I know how to approach this issue.

[Guest guest]

All,

I believe we have this already. See Charlie Francis Training for Speed, Forum

Review, Speed Trap, etc. He trains all qualities in varying degrees depending on

the time of year and athlete's needs. Called Vertical Integration in his book.

Same thing as conjugate.

Regards,

Bukke

Nova Scotia

Dr. Yessis [dryessis@...]wrote:

> I believe we need more explanation of the exact conjugate method used before

> it can be related to other athletes. Sprinters and others should follow a

> better periodization plan and work more on the coupling of technique with

> strength, speed and power. Powerlifters do not have as great a demand on

> technique with strength.

[Guest guest]

So, I guess that this kind of aproach can still be viable into a

periodized training, in the stregth building phase? The conjugate

method claims that the CNS is never burned out, cause exercices

change regurlarly and that they never lift with 90% MAX weight for a

long time.

I could see in the past, that when I got better at absolute

stregth, my speed was average (by this, I mean that it did not feel

fast and that the motor patern was way different). When I got more

speed work done(wich was higher after my max streght got up), I

noticed that my max would eventually go down significaly. Now, could

it be possible to develop and maintain both all this time? Could it

also apply to specific training of a specific sport? I've always

been taught (and did so) to develop each quality one at a time.

MArtin Laforest

Chambly, Quebec, Canada

Bukke <brooke@b...> wrote:

> I believe we have this already. See Charlie Francis Training for

> Speed, Forum Review, Speed Trap, etc. He trains all qualities in

> varying degrees depending on the time of year and athlete's needs.

> Called Vertical Integration in his book. Same thing as conjugate.