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Why not just use dumbells instead of kettlebells? I was considering buying

a kettlebell or two. I've been doing all the kb exercises with dumbells.

Kb's seem really expensive, too. I guess because there are not as popular and

mass

produced as dumbells. Why else could they cost so much? $100 for a 18lb

weight,

seems high.

I'd like to know if anyone does swinging type exercises with KBs and feels they

are

better than dumbells.

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, good question.

Here is an excerpt from my KB company's certification manual (Kettlebell

Concepts, Inc.) that briefly explains how/why KB's are different (not

necessarily better than) DB's. Each implement has it's own unique

qualities that should be used appropriately. (The following information

is copyrighted and subject to applicable copyright laws).

Adam Cronin

Kettlebell Concepts, Inc.

NYC, NY

USA

The Lifter and the Kettlebell

The human body is a system of levers and soft tissue attachments that

enable us to manipulate our environment in order to achieve goal

acquisition (Broer, 1964). The nervous system is the direct link by

which these muscles are recruited for the desired action.

Unfortunately, the human body is comprised of predominantly third class

levers, putting us at a biomechanical disadvantage (Broer, 1964).

Humans have a shorter force arm than resistance arm since the tendons

insert closer to the joint and the load we manipulate is concentrated

farther from the joint. Therefore, the human body favors speed,

dexterity, and mobility at the expense of force output capacity (Broer,

1964).

Purposeful movement results from the system of levers functioning in

specific, sequential patterns executed within context and task

orientation. Proper segmental sequence is critical to elicit precise

movements by well-timed summation of forces (Broer, 1964). Efficient

movement attempts to sum all forces acting on the body to zero through

dynamic postural control (Enoka, 2001). This is represented by the

equation:

F x FA = R x RA

Since FA, R and RA are independent variables, F is the dependent

variable that must be manipulated to overcome the moment of inertia, or

resistance we encounter (Enoka, 2001).

Distinctive from the dumbbell, the handle of a kettlebell creates an

extra lever segment within the lifter-weight unit. It adds length to

the RA as well as a great deal of extra R at the end of the segment,

dramatically increasing the R x RA side of the equation. This has

tremendous implications of what must be accomplished with regards to the

F x FA side. Since FA is constant, force output must greatly increase

to compensate and balance the equation (Enoka, 2001).

In addition, the kettlebell's center of mass is constantly changing in

relation to the last human lever segment holding it. The perpetual

length fluctuation of the RA forces the neuromuscular system to not only

increase overall force output, but to reactively modulate the total

twitch amplitude and rate of tension development (Behm, 1995).

Therefore, excitation and inhibition of agonist and antagonist motor

units becomes a more critical element with use of the kettle-bell in

order to adapt to its' shifting inertial characteristics. As a result,

a finely tuned relationship of agonist/antagonist synergy is required.

Kettlebell Biomechanics

In many respects, strength and conditioning is beginning to come full

circle, both methodologically, and philosophically. Prior to the

inception of training modes such as elastic, pneumatic, hydraulic,

isokinetic, and accommodating resistance as well as " super-slow "

techniques, strength trainers and body builders relied on simpler tools

and more intuitive methodologies. Ungainly-looking modalities such as

kettlebells were swung around with seeming imprecision and little

attention to specific muscle involvement.

The relatively modern approaches mentioned above share two common

themes: They each attempt to provide relatively constant tension

throughout the movement, while minimizing the role of inertial forces.

However, when examining the majority of sport movements as well as

activities of daily living, we find little application for such methods.

The human neuromuscular system is well equipped to generate and control

inertial forces and very seldom encounters a sustained level of tension

throughout a movement. Whether swinging a bat or a hammer, or lifting a

child from the floor, most human movements are made more effective when

the momentum is directed and controlled, rather than reduced. Briefly,

when an object is at rest, it provides resistance to anyone attempting

to move it (independent of gravity) and does so to a degree

proportionate with its mass. Once the object is moving, force will be

necessary to slow down or stop it (gravity included.) Any time an object

is accelerated (hurled, swung), it will tend to continue on its initial

path unless force is applied in the opposite direction. This normal

resistance to changes in an objects motion is called inertia. Any time

we accelerate or decelerate and object, we are fighting inertia.

Additionally, if the object's weight is centered more distally to the

axis of rotation (joint) the object's momentum of inertia is increased,

making it more difficult to start and stop.

This scenario plays out will when examining the kettlebell in contrast

with a typical dumbbell. The longer kettlebell has a mass center which

will be arranged much more distally to the joint than that of a

dumbbell. The additional lever created by placing the resistance distal

to the handle also provides a unique challenge to the nervous system, as

well as to the grip. The result: The athlete will need to encounter much

greater inertial forces. This may provide a distinct advantage when

attempting to transfer strength gains to athletic tasks with a strong

inertial component, i.e., baseball pitching, golf swing, all the Olympic

lifts, etc. It is this very component of natural human movement that

many modern resistance devices seek to eliminate-the result being an

unnatural and non-sport-specific method of training.

Before strength trainers began experimenting with these devices,

weightlifter and bodybuilders, " knowing no better, " utilized barbells,

dumbbells, and kettlebells in a controlled but explosive manner,

generating tremendous inertial forces in the process. Resistance during

certain phases of the movement was consequently reduced. In the context

of " training the muscles, " this may have seemed counterproductive.

However, in the context of " training movements, " the kettlebell methods

are all too sound. Inertial forces are simply a fact of life on and off

the athletic field and, therefore, they should be kept in the gym as

well.

Ted Keating, Ph.D, CSCS

Assistant Professor-Manhattan College

Department of Physical Education and Human Performance

kettlebells (why not dumbells?)

Why not just use dumbells instead of kettlebells? I was considering

buying

a kettlebell or two. I've been doing all the kb exercises with

dumbells.

Kb's seem really expensive, too. I guess because there are not as

popular and mass

produced as dumbells. Why else could they cost so much? $100 for a

18lb weight,

seems high.

I'd like to know if anyone does swinging type exercises with KBs and

feels they are

better than dumbells.

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I have been training with kettlebells for a few years now and attended a

few seminars on kettlebell training. The advantage to using a kettlebell vs. a

dumbell in the swinging exercise is in the grip. The kettlebell has a wider

handle which makes it easier to hold than a dumbell when doing two-handed

swings. The handle is also a great deal thicker than the typical dumbell so it

gives a great hand and forearm workout while doing one-handed swings. However,

I find that the advantages in using a kettlbell vs. a dumbell aren't really in

the swinging exercise. I mean aside from a slightly more comfortable grip and a

good hand and forearm workout at the same time, there is really not much

difference between the two when doing swings. I've noticed the differences to

be much more apparent when doing snatches and cleans. As explained to me by

RKC, Gregg Althen, the kettlebell moves more fluidly than a dumbell when doing

these exercises. Gregg also showed me how by being more

aggressive with the kettlebell and finishing the snatch by " punching through "

at the top of the movement, the kettlebell actually lands quite softly on the

forearm. I would recommend going to a kettlebell seminar held by someone who is

RKC certified to see if the extra price is really worth it for what your

training goals are. The seminar I attended in Mountain View, CA was only $40

and well worth it.

Hope this helps.

Jon

San Francisco, CA

Bodybuilt4u@...

de la Garza wrote:

Why not just use dumbells instead of kettlebells? I was considering buying

a kettlebell or two. I've been doing all the kb exercises with dumbells.

Kb's seem really expensive, too. I guess because there are not as popular and

mass

produced as dumbells. Why else could they cost so much? $100 for a 18lb

weight,

seems high.

I'd like to know if anyone does swinging type exercises with KBs and feels they

are

better than dumbells.

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I have been training with kettlebells for a few years now and attended a

few seminars on kettlebell training. The advantage to using a kettlebell vs. a

dumbell in the swinging exercise is in the grip. The kettlebell has a wider

handle which makes it easier to hold than a dumbell when doing two-handed

swings. The handle is also a great deal thicker than the typical dumbell so it

gives a great hand and forearm workout while doing one-handed swings. However,

I find that the advantages in using a kettlbell vs. a dumbell aren't really in

the swinging exercise. I mean aside from a slightly more comfortable grip and a

good hand and forearm workout at the same time, there is really not much

difference between the two when doing swings. I've noticed the differences to

be much more apparent when doing snatches and cleans. As explained to me by

RKC, Gregg Althen, the kettlebell moves more fluidly than a dumbell when doing

these exercises. Gregg also showed me how by being more

aggressive with the kettlebell and finishing the snatch by " punching through "

at the top of the movement, the kettlebell actually lands quite softly on the

forearm. I would recommend going to a kettlebell seminar held by someone who is

RKC certified to see if the extra price is really worth it for what your

training goals are. The seminar I attended in Mountain View, CA was only $40

and well worth it.

Hope this helps.

Jon

San Francisco, CA

Bodybuilt4u@...

de la Garza wrote:

Why not just use dumbells instead of kettlebells? I was considering buying

a kettlebell or two. I've been doing all the kb exercises with dumbells.

Kb's seem really expensive, too. I guess because there are not as popular and

mass

produced as dumbells. Why else could they cost so much? $100 for a 18lb

weight,

seems high.

I'd like to know if anyone does swinging type exercises with KBs and feels they

are

better than dumbells.

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Let me state that I'm a fan of kettlebells, but thehype is pretty

big and it probably needs to be addressed.

> Hi,

> I've been using kettlebells for the last 18 months and in my 25 years

> of personal training have never been so impressed with a piece of

> lifting " equipment " or a training method as I have with KB's.

>

> The uniqueness of the kettelbell and why a dumbell would not be a

> proper substitute lies in the lower center of gravity the kb

> has,allowing it to be swung.It pivots and goes through a unique arc

> as you swing,snatch or clean it.

>

***** The arc, although unique, is relatively small, and, unless the

weight is huge (which for you it might be), doesn't make a ground

breaking amount of difference. Although fun and challenging, not

worth throwing away the dummbells for.

> This allows for the use of momentum in a way most trainees dont use:

> ballistic.It feels very much like the swing I experienced as a

> gymnast on high bar,parallel bars and rings.Very high reps can be

> easily done do to the balance of the object,resulting in unbeleivable

> workloads and increases in work capacity and cardio-respiratory

> capacity.Slow low reps can be done to build base strength.

>

***** The same can be done with dumbbells, but folks just don't, out

of fear or modern bodybuilding brainwashing.

> Virtually EVERYTHING you can do with a KB will activate your core

> like nothing you've done before.Functional,efficient.

***** Still, not exclusive to kettlebells, though certain movements

can seem to shift balance more then dumbbells, that I'll agree.

> The handles with the low COG allow overhead work to be done very

> comfortably.

>

> All the while loading ligaments in a way that seems to allow then to

> heal and strengthen unlike the slow,grinding powerlifts.

***** Really? How's that?

People of all

> ages can learn to do it almost immediately. They are very user

> friendly.

>

> And although they are costly, once one learns the myriad of exercises

> you can do with the KB it becomes apparent they are possibly the best

> deal in the exericse world. Virtually a compete gym for the price of

> three kettlebells.

>

> 3 bells and a barbell set and most people are set.

***** One KB can be a convenient way to workout, true. But a full

body workout sans weights is also possible. Throw some bands in a bag

and a creative thinker can come up with a myriad of choices. How

about clubbells? Another good choice. Keep all options open...

> Hope this helps,

>

> Mark Reifkind

> Palo Alto Ca

***** By the way, atomic athletic offers beautiful-looking kettlebells

that can be filled with shot or bb's for different weights. I have a

25 pounder that can be filled as heavy as 75 or more. They're also a

little cheaper then the Pavel sponsored models. There are also plate

loaded adjuctab;e models out there. A google search will help.

Chip Conrad

Bodytribe Fitness

Sacramento, CA

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Let me state that I'm a fan of kettlebells, but thehype is pretty

big and it probably needs to be addressed.

> Hi,

> I've been using kettlebells for the last 18 months and in my 25 years

> of personal training have never been so impressed with a piece of

> lifting " equipment " or a training method as I have with KB's.

>

> The uniqueness of the kettelbell and why a dumbell would not be a

> proper substitute lies in the lower center of gravity the kb

> has,allowing it to be swung.It pivots and goes through a unique arc

> as you swing,snatch or clean it.

>

***** The arc, although unique, is relatively small, and, unless the

weight is huge (which for you it might be), doesn't make a ground

breaking amount of difference. Although fun and challenging, not

worth throwing away the dummbells for.

> This allows for the use of momentum in a way most trainees dont use:

> ballistic.It feels very much like the swing I experienced as a

> gymnast on high bar,parallel bars and rings.Very high reps can be

> easily done do to the balance of the object,resulting in unbeleivable

> workloads and increases in work capacity and cardio-respiratory

> capacity.Slow low reps can be done to build base strength.

>

***** The same can be done with dumbbells, but folks just don't, out

of fear or modern bodybuilding brainwashing.

> Virtually EVERYTHING you can do with a KB will activate your core

> like nothing you've done before.Functional,efficient.

***** Still, not exclusive to kettlebells, though certain movements

can seem to shift balance more then dumbbells, that I'll agree.

> The handles with the low COG allow overhead work to be done very

> comfortably.

>

> All the while loading ligaments in a way that seems to allow then to

> heal and strengthen unlike the slow,grinding powerlifts.

***** Really? How's that?

People of all

> ages can learn to do it almost immediately. They are very user

> friendly.

>

> And although they are costly, once one learns the myriad of exercises

> you can do with the KB it becomes apparent they are possibly the best

> deal in the exericse world. Virtually a compete gym for the price of

> three kettlebells.

>

> 3 bells and a barbell set and most people are set.

***** One KB can be a convenient way to workout, true. But a full

body workout sans weights is also possible. Throw some bands in a bag

and a creative thinker can come up with a myriad of choices. How

about clubbells? Another good choice. Keep all options open...

> Hope this helps,

>

> Mark Reifkind

> Palo Alto Ca

***** By the way, atomic athletic offers beautiful-looking kettlebells

that can be filled with shot or bb's for different weights. I have a

25 pounder that can be filled as heavy as 75 or more. They're also a

little cheaper then the Pavel sponsored models. There are also plate

loaded adjuctab;e models out there. A google search will help.

Chip Conrad

Bodytribe Fitness

Sacramento, CA

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Due to the lack of scientific research on the subject, this is a

difficult topic to discuss. From a purely biomechanical perspective,

the additional inertia created from the swinging of the COG set outside

the lifter-weight system is irrefutable and definitely significant--just

do the math. My colleagues and I are currently producing original 3rd

party university research that shows that there are indeed significant

differences in motor unit activity measured by surface EMG relative to

the physical forces produced from the mechanics involved in lifting a

kettlebell that favor the kettlebell v. dumbell. It will be published

in the near future.

Adam Cronin

Kettlebell Concepts, Inc.

NYC, NY

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> ***** The range of motion of a weight doesn't automatically mean a

> great deal to the range of motion of a joint. If so, I'd attach a

> plate to a 10 foot rope and throw it around. As for other instruments

> that do have increased range of motion, the Weaver Stick, Indian clubs

> (or the modern Clubbell), sand bags and sledgehammers can all offer

> extended range of motions.

>

Mark:

And an increased range of motion for the joint doesn't necessarily

mean more work than a smaller one. With the kb snatch the ankle, knee

hip and shoulder ALL go through medium size flexion and extensions.

Together they add up to a sizeable sum with a considerable amount of

work. You have quite a bit of mass and acceleration on both the

ascent and descent as well as the reversal strengh involved.

> ***** They do have a fun element that can't be argued. My only

> concern is the often vehement proselytizing done by the kb converts.

>

> As for the weightlessness of a kb during certain motions, what exactly

> would the benefits of that be?

Mark

I also agree that the fervent accolytes that see the KB as a panacea,

and not just one part of the basic iron skills are misguided, to say

the least. I just have found them to be the most efficient weight

training tool for the average person that I have seen in my last 30

plus years of training.

As far as the weightlessness the key is that in order to achieve that

state with a KB of considerable size a serious amount of force had to

be generated and will need to be controlled through a very large

ROM . All in all a huge amount of work. But it really needs to be

felt to be believed. Think about hi rep clean and jerks with a

barbell.

> > > ***** The stretch position of a powerlift should never last

that long,

> since after the stretch, no matter how heavy, the contraction ought to

> be moving the weight out of any range of motion that would be

> considered 'excessive' or anything that could possibly damage the

> integrity of a liaments tensile strength. If I were to sit at the

> bottom of a squat with 300+ pounds on my back for a while, that may

> have an increased potential for injury, but no powerlifter will stay

> in that position for very long, and once they're on their way up, even

> a a stall, they will be well out of the way of a stretched postition

> that could hurt ligaments (at this point, ligament damage, or any

> other damge, would come from bad technique probably).

>

> There can be a plyometric action involved with kettlebells, which

> would ultimately train the stretch reflex, but again, not exclusive to

> kb's.

Mark:

The stretch I was referring to is that which would occur when the

ligaments are put under load for a prolonged time such as the

sticking point in a max effort DL or squat. Especially if the back

rounds at all. Pavels point that the connective tissue usually

functions to transmit the force rapidly and then rel-loads.Rarely ,in

sport, does it stay under constant load for any length of time.

I timed my good friend Steve Silver pulling a 683 DL at fourteen plus

seconds from start to finish.A long grind to say the least.

> ***** That's great, since back health is a major issue today. I too,

> have a rep for building backs, and kb's are an essential part. But

> before they entered my gym, my clients were still making wonderful

> progress.

Mark:

Agreed and I was having good luck re-habbing backs before kbs as

well. I just found them a better tool than anything else I was using.

> > ***** Don't tell my clients who snatch and clean with them regularly

> that. But heck, they snatch and clean anything, barrels, sandbags,

> single arm barbell snatches, small children, lunch meat...whatever.

>

> By the way, I've got an upcoming article about old school lift coming

> up on a website soon (and it even includes me using a kettlebell).

>

Mark:

LOL! Well I stand corrected. I was thinking more of Iron minds design

which certainly can't be snatched. Let me know where the article is,

love to read it.

Mark Reifkind

Palo Alto Ca

WWW.Girya.net

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That's a very abstruse way of putting it, but I don't know if I'm

convinced. It sounds like you are saying the skill involved in

learning to weightlessly flip or swing a kettlebell is transferable

to other, dissimilar sporting activities. Sequential on/offs,

modulating force, spacio-temporal moments, etc... are you really

talking about a general, transferrable quality or are you just

trying to obfuscate the fact that you are talking about a movement-

specific skill with excessive verbosity? Since when is a " raw

skill " any more tranferable outside a highly specific movement type

than any other skill? Can you site any evidence of such skill

transference occuring?

Wilbanks

ville, FL

> To address the question about the value of

momentary " weightlessness " of

> a kb during some movements:

>

> Skill and goal acquisition is as dependant upon motor unit

excitation as

> it is inhibition. Context and task dependant sequential segmental

> recruitment that is to be intentionally coincidental (or not) with

goal

> associated variables is largely dependant upon one's ability to

rapidly

> and accurately turn on/off the right motor units at the right time

in

> the right space. The weightlessness that occurs with, for

example, some

> flipping movements of the kb can help the lifter learn when to

> efficiently modulate force output by turning on/off what resources

are

> un/necessary at coincidental spacio-temporal moments. Examples of

the

> need to turn on/off motor units in an efficient manner can be

found in

> many ADL's and sports/activities, so the applicability of this raw

> skill, to efficiently modulate force output, that can be developed

by

> using an implement such as a kb, is widespread across large and

variable

> populations.

>

> Adam Cronin

> Kettlebell Concepts, Inc.

> NYC, NY

>

> Re: kettlebells (why not dumbells?)

>

> > Mark writes:

> > I disagree. The arc is not relatively small. Travelling from

overhead

> > to at least a foot behind your body( as in the snatch) is

probably

> > the longest range of motion a weight can travel in a free weight

> > exericse. Can you tell me an exercise where the weight travels a

> > farther distance?

>

> ***** The range of motion of a weight doesn't automatically mean a

> great deal to the range of motion of a joint. If so, I'd attach a

> plate to a 10 foot rope and throw it around. As for other

instruments

> that do have increased range of motion, the Weaver Stick, Indian

clubs

> (or the modern Clubbell), sand bags and sledgehammers can all offer

> extended range of motions.

>

> > Mark writes:

> > Again I disagree. I have swung dbs in the same way as the kbs

and

> > the " feel " is nowhere near the same. The off center mass of the

kb

> > totally changes the dynamics of the swing. There is a

> > distinct " bottom " position in gymnastics swings that the kbs

also

> > possess. You cannot get this with db's at all. When you swing

the kb

> > correctly and drive the hips at the proper position the kb

becomes

> > almost weightless in your hand. This is not the case with the db.

> >

> > You of course CAN do this with db's but the kbs are much more

> > efficient and WAY more FUN to swing.

>

> ***** They do have a fun element that can't be argued. My only

> concern is the often vehement proselytizing done by the kb

converts.

>

> As for the weightlessness of a kb during certain motions, what

exactly

> would the benefits of that be?

>

> > Mark writes:

> >

> > According to Pavel, the structure of ligaments is wave like and

used

> > to dissapating force quickly (as in other ballistic movements

like

> > running, jumping.) The force is quickly transmitted, stretching

out

> > the ligament and then allowing it to return to its wave like

> > structure.

> >

> > Training in this manner(ballistically) allows for an adaptation

in

> > these structures. In a slow grinding lift which involve the

posterior

> > similar to KB swings or lifts( such as DL's or squats) the

ligaments

> > can be stretched out for long periods( such as a max lift which

can

> > take 3-5 seconds to complete-at minimum).This prolonged pressure

on

> > the structure can lead to more tears or weakening.

>

> ***** The stretch position of a powerlift should never last that

long,

> since after the stretch, no matter how heavy, the contraction

ought to

> be moving the weight out of any range of motion that would be

> considered 'excessive' or anything that could possibly damage the

> integrity of a liaments tensile strength. If I were to sit at the

> bottom of a squat with 300+ pounds on my back for a while, that may

> have an increased potential for injury, but no powerlifter will

stay

> in that position for very long, and once they're on their way up,

even

> a a stall, they will be well out of the way of a stretched

postition

> that could hurt ligaments (at this point, ligament damage, or any

> other damge, would come from bad technique probably).

>

> There can be a plyometric action involved with kettlebells, which

> would ultimately train the stretch reflex, but again, not

exclusive to

> kb's.

>

> > Anecdotally, I herniated L4-L5 in 2000. 18 months of rehab later

I

> > could squat and deadlift but tolerate almost no volume. KB

training(

> > starting with swings but expanding to snatches and cleans)

helped

> > strengten my back to the point where I can now do previous

levels of

> > squat and DL training with no problem.

> >

> > I have also many examples of clients with previous back problems

who

> > have thrived on progressive amounts of KB swinging and whose

back

> > have never felt better. Anecdotal of course, but in my business

> > consistent results speak volumes.

>

> ***** That's great, since back health is a major issue today. I

too,

> have a rep for building backs, and kb's are an essential part. But

> before they entered my gym, my clients were still making wonderful

> progress.

>

> > Mark writes:

> >

> > I agree that the shot or plate loaded KBs can be used very

> > effectively for swings but you cannot snatch or clean them at

> > all. Again, since most need only two or three KB's and you can

do SO

> > MANY exercises with them and they will last a lifetime I see

them as

> > an excellent investment not just a purchase.

>

> ***** Don't tell my clients who snatch and clean with them

regularly

> that. But heck, they snatch and clean anything, barrels, sandbags,

> single arm barbell snatches, small children, lunch meat...whatever.

>

> By the way, I've got an upcoming article about old school lift

coming

> up on a website soon (and it even includes me using a kettlebell).

>

> Chip Conrad

> Bodytribe Fitness

> Sacramento, CA

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I look foward to the finished product.

Chip Conrad

Bodytribe Fitness

Sacramento, CA

> Hi Chip,

>

> As in all exercise programs, I think there are better choices of

> exercises, not better exercises or implements, dependant upon the goal.

> I agree, the people, as you say, " shouting from the mountain top " may be

> caught up a bit, however, finding a new toy is always exciting.

> Dependant upon the context/task of the desired training outcome, better

> choices of exercises will yield better results. The KB is indeed

> different, and may be a better or worse choice at any given time--the

> key is to understand its differences and when/how/why to implement them.

> About the research:

> All good questions!

> Yes, we aim to show significant differences in MU recruitment patterns.

> Why not other implements? Well, to satisfy my curiosity, I'd love to

> include all those! And I look forward to evenually getting to all

> those--at this point, just one step at a time.

> What exercises you ask? Well, you'll just have to wait for the study!

> Don't want anyone to steal our thunder! Actually, I hope you understand

> I can't talk about that without consent from my research partners,

> sorry. Would love to explore any ideas you may have...

>

> Stay tuned,

>

> Adam Cronin

> Kettlebell Concepts, Inc.

> NYC, NY

>

> Re: kettlebells (why not dumbells?)

>

>

> > My colleagues and I are currently producing original 3rd

> > party university research that shows that there are indeed significant

> > differences in motor unit activity measured by surface EMG relative to

> > the physical forces produced from the mechanics involved in lifting a

> > kettlebell that favor the kettlebell v. dumbell. It will be published

> > in the near future.

> >

> > Adam Cronin

> > Kettlebell Concepts, Inc.

> > NYC, NY

>

>

> ***** Different, of course, but I think the shouting from the

> mountain tops is how much 'better' it is. Can that be measured and

> proven? How is the kettlebell 'favored?' 'Twould have to be

> explained how the motor unit firing from a kettlebell is more

> desireable then a dumbbell. But why aren't other weights included

> (clubbells, leverage sticks, medicine balls, sand bags)? What

> exercises were used and why were they chosen?

>

> Chip Conrad

> Bodytribe Fitness

> Sacramento, CA

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