Guest guest Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 Why not just use dumbells instead of kettlebells? I was considering buying a kettlebell or two. I've been doing all the kb exercises with dumbells. Kb's seem really expensive, too. I guess because there are not as popular and mass produced as dumbells. Why else could they cost so much? $100 for a 18lb weight, seems high. I'd like to know if anyone does swinging type exercises with KBs and feels they are better than dumbells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 , good question. Here is an excerpt from my KB company's certification manual (Kettlebell Concepts, Inc.) that briefly explains how/why KB's are different (not necessarily better than) DB's. Each implement has it's own unique qualities that should be used appropriately. (The following information is copyrighted and subject to applicable copyright laws). Adam Cronin Kettlebell Concepts, Inc. NYC, NY USA The Lifter and the Kettlebell The human body is a system of levers and soft tissue attachments that enable us to manipulate our environment in order to achieve goal acquisition (Broer, 1964). The nervous system is the direct link by which these muscles are recruited for the desired action. Unfortunately, the human body is comprised of predominantly third class levers, putting us at a biomechanical disadvantage (Broer, 1964). Humans have a shorter force arm than resistance arm since the tendons insert closer to the joint and the load we manipulate is concentrated farther from the joint. Therefore, the human body favors speed, dexterity, and mobility at the expense of force output capacity (Broer, 1964). Purposeful movement results from the system of levers functioning in specific, sequential patterns executed within context and task orientation. Proper segmental sequence is critical to elicit precise movements by well-timed summation of forces (Broer, 1964). Efficient movement attempts to sum all forces acting on the body to zero through dynamic postural control (Enoka, 2001). This is represented by the equation: F x FA = R x RA Since FA, R and RA are independent variables, F is the dependent variable that must be manipulated to overcome the moment of inertia, or resistance we encounter (Enoka, 2001). Distinctive from the dumbbell, the handle of a kettlebell creates an extra lever segment within the lifter-weight unit. It adds length to the RA as well as a great deal of extra R at the end of the segment, dramatically increasing the R x RA side of the equation. This has tremendous implications of what must be accomplished with regards to the F x FA side. Since FA is constant, force output must greatly increase to compensate and balance the equation (Enoka, 2001). In addition, the kettlebell's center of mass is constantly changing in relation to the last human lever segment holding it. The perpetual length fluctuation of the RA forces the neuromuscular system to not only increase overall force output, but to reactively modulate the total twitch amplitude and rate of tension development (Behm, 1995). Therefore, excitation and inhibition of agonist and antagonist motor units becomes a more critical element with use of the kettle-bell in order to adapt to its' shifting inertial characteristics. As a result, a finely tuned relationship of agonist/antagonist synergy is required. Kettlebell Biomechanics In many respects, strength and conditioning is beginning to come full circle, both methodologically, and philosophically. Prior to the inception of training modes such as elastic, pneumatic, hydraulic, isokinetic, and accommodating resistance as well as " super-slow " techniques, strength trainers and body builders relied on simpler tools and more intuitive methodologies. Ungainly-looking modalities such as kettlebells were swung around with seeming imprecision and little attention to specific muscle involvement. The relatively modern approaches mentioned above share two common themes: They each attempt to provide relatively constant tension throughout the movement, while minimizing the role of inertial forces. However, when examining the majority of sport movements as well as activities of daily living, we find little application for such methods. The human neuromuscular system is well equipped to generate and control inertial forces and very seldom encounters a sustained level of tension throughout a movement. Whether swinging a bat or a hammer, or lifting a child from the floor, most human movements are made more effective when the momentum is directed and controlled, rather than reduced. Briefly, when an object is at rest, it provides resistance to anyone attempting to move it (independent of gravity) and does so to a degree proportionate with its mass. Once the object is moving, force will be necessary to slow down or stop it (gravity included.) Any time an object is accelerated (hurled, swung), it will tend to continue on its initial path unless force is applied in the opposite direction. This normal resistance to changes in an objects motion is called inertia. Any time we accelerate or decelerate and object, we are fighting inertia. Additionally, if the object's weight is centered more distally to the axis of rotation (joint) the object's momentum of inertia is increased, making it more difficult to start and stop. This scenario plays out will when examining the kettlebell in contrast with a typical dumbbell. The longer kettlebell has a mass center which will be arranged much more distally to the joint than that of a dumbbell. The additional lever created by placing the resistance distal to the handle also provides a unique challenge to the nervous system, as well as to the grip. The result: The athlete will need to encounter much greater inertial forces. This may provide a distinct advantage when attempting to transfer strength gains to athletic tasks with a strong inertial component, i.e., baseball pitching, golf swing, all the Olympic lifts, etc. It is this very component of natural human movement that many modern resistance devices seek to eliminate-the result being an unnatural and non-sport-specific method of training. Before strength trainers began experimenting with these devices, weightlifter and bodybuilders, " knowing no better, " utilized barbells, dumbbells, and kettlebells in a controlled but explosive manner, generating tremendous inertial forces in the process. Resistance during certain phases of the movement was consequently reduced. In the context of " training the muscles, " this may have seemed counterproductive. However, in the context of " training movements, " the kettlebell methods are all too sound. Inertial forces are simply a fact of life on and off the athletic field and, therefore, they should be kept in the gym as well. Ted Keating, Ph.D, CSCS Assistant Professor-Manhattan College Department of Physical Education and Human Performance kettlebells (why not dumbells?) Why not just use dumbells instead of kettlebells? I was considering buying a kettlebell or two. I've been doing all the kb exercises with dumbells. Kb's seem really expensive, too. I guess because there are not as popular and mass produced as dumbells. Why else could they cost so much? $100 for a 18lb weight, seems high. I'd like to know if anyone does swinging type exercises with KBs and feels they are better than dumbells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 , I have been training with kettlebells for a few years now and attended a few seminars on kettlebell training. The advantage to using a kettlebell vs. a dumbell in the swinging exercise is in the grip. The kettlebell has a wider handle which makes it easier to hold than a dumbell when doing two-handed swings. The handle is also a great deal thicker than the typical dumbell so it gives a great hand and forearm workout while doing one-handed swings. However, I find that the advantages in using a kettlbell vs. a dumbell aren't really in the swinging exercise. I mean aside from a slightly more comfortable grip and a good hand and forearm workout at the same time, there is really not much difference between the two when doing swings. I've noticed the differences to be much more apparent when doing snatches and cleans. As explained to me by RKC, Gregg Althen, the kettlebell moves more fluidly than a dumbell when doing these exercises. Gregg also showed me how by being more aggressive with the kettlebell and finishing the snatch by " punching through " at the top of the movement, the kettlebell actually lands quite softly on the forearm. I would recommend going to a kettlebell seminar held by someone who is RKC certified to see if the extra price is really worth it for what your training goals are. The seminar I attended in Mountain View, CA was only $40 and well worth it. Hope this helps. Jon San Francisco, CA Bodybuilt4u@... de la Garza wrote: Why not just use dumbells instead of kettlebells? I was considering buying a kettlebell or two. I've been doing all the kb exercises with dumbells. Kb's seem really expensive, too. I guess because there are not as popular and mass produced as dumbells. Why else could they cost so much? $100 for a 18lb weight, seems high. I'd like to know if anyone does swinging type exercises with KBs and feels they are better than dumbells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 , I have been training with kettlebells for a few years now and attended a few seminars on kettlebell training. The advantage to using a kettlebell vs. a dumbell in the swinging exercise is in the grip. The kettlebell has a wider handle which makes it easier to hold than a dumbell when doing two-handed swings. The handle is also a great deal thicker than the typical dumbell so it gives a great hand and forearm workout while doing one-handed swings. However, I find that the advantages in using a kettlbell vs. a dumbell aren't really in the swinging exercise. I mean aside from a slightly more comfortable grip and a good hand and forearm workout at the same time, there is really not much difference between the two when doing swings. I've noticed the differences to be much more apparent when doing snatches and cleans. As explained to me by RKC, Gregg Althen, the kettlebell moves more fluidly than a dumbell when doing these exercises. Gregg also showed me how by being more aggressive with the kettlebell and finishing the snatch by " punching through " at the top of the movement, the kettlebell actually lands quite softly on the forearm. I would recommend going to a kettlebell seminar held by someone who is RKC certified to see if the extra price is really worth it for what your training goals are. The seminar I attended in Mountain View, CA was only $40 and well worth it. Hope this helps. Jon San Francisco, CA Bodybuilt4u@... de la Garza wrote: Why not just use dumbells instead of kettlebells? I was considering buying a kettlebell or two. I've been doing all the kb exercises with dumbells. Kb's seem really expensive, too. I guess because there are not as popular and mass produced as dumbells. Why else could they cost so much? $100 for a 18lb weight, seems high. I'd like to know if anyone does swinging type exercises with KBs and feels they are better than dumbells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 Let me state that I'm a fan of kettlebells, but thehype is pretty big and it probably needs to be addressed. > Hi, > I've been using kettlebells for the last 18 months and in my 25 years > of personal training have never been so impressed with a piece of > lifting " equipment " or a training method as I have with KB's. > > The uniqueness of the kettelbell and why a dumbell would not be a > proper substitute lies in the lower center of gravity the kb > has,allowing it to be swung.It pivots and goes through a unique arc > as you swing,snatch or clean it. > ***** The arc, although unique, is relatively small, and, unless the weight is huge (which for you it might be), doesn't make a ground breaking amount of difference. Although fun and challenging, not worth throwing away the dummbells for. > This allows for the use of momentum in a way most trainees dont use: > ballistic.It feels very much like the swing I experienced as a > gymnast on high bar,parallel bars and rings.Very high reps can be > easily done do to the balance of the object,resulting in unbeleivable > workloads and increases in work capacity and cardio-respiratory > capacity.Slow low reps can be done to build base strength. > ***** The same can be done with dumbbells, but folks just don't, out of fear or modern bodybuilding brainwashing. > Virtually EVERYTHING you can do with a KB will activate your core > like nothing you've done before.Functional,efficient. ***** Still, not exclusive to kettlebells, though certain movements can seem to shift balance more then dumbbells, that I'll agree. > The handles with the low COG allow overhead work to be done very > comfortably. > > All the while loading ligaments in a way that seems to allow then to > heal and strengthen unlike the slow,grinding powerlifts. ***** Really? How's that? People of all > ages can learn to do it almost immediately. They are very user > friendly. > > And although they are costly, once one learns the myriad of exercises > you can do with the KB it becomes apparent they are possibly the best > deal in the exericse world. Virtually a compete gym for the price of > three kettlebells. > > 3 bells and a barbell set and most people are set. ***** One KB can be a convenient way to workout, true. But a full body workout sans weights is also possible. Throw some bands in a bag and a creative thinker can come up with a myriad of choices. How about clubbells? Another good choice. Keep all options open... > Hope this helps, > > Mark Reifkind > Palo Alto Ca ***** By the way, atomic athletic offers beautiful-looking kettlebells that can be filled with shot or bb's for different weights. I have a 25 pounder that can be filled as heavy as 75 or more. They're also a little cheaper then the Pavel sponsored models. There are also plate loaded adjuctab;e models out there. A google search will help. Chip Conrad Bodytribe Fitness Sacramento, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 Let me state that I'm a fan of kettlebells, but thehype is pretty big and it probably needs to be addressed. > Hi, > I've been using kettlebells for the last 18 months and in my 25 years > of personal training have never been so impressed with a piece of > lifting " equipment " or a training method as I have with KB's. > > The uniqueness of the kettelbell and why a dumbell would not be a > proper substitute lies in the lower center of gravity the kb > has,allowing it to be swung.It pivots and goes through a unique arc > as you swing,snatch or clean it. > ***** The arc, although unique, is relatively small, and, unless the weight is huge (which for you it might be), doesn't make a ground breaking amount of difference. Although fun and challenging, not worth throwing away the dummbells for. > This allows for the use of momentum in a way most trainees dont use: > ballistic.It feels very much like the swing I experienced as a > gymnast on high bar,parallel bars and rings.Very high reps can be > easily done do to the balance of the object,resulting in unbeleivable > workloads and increases in work capacity and cardio-respiratory > capacity.Slow low reps can be done to build base strength. > ***** The same can be done with dumbbells, but folks just don't, out of fear or modern bodybuilding brainwashing. > Virtually EVERYTHING you can do with a KB will activate your core > like nothing you've done before.Functional,efficient. ***** Still, not exclusive to kettlebells, though certain movements can seem to shift balance more then dumbbells, that I'll agree. > The handles with the low COG allow overhead work to be done very > comfortably. > > All the while loading ligaments in a way that seems to allow then to > heal and strengthen unlike the slow,grinding powerlifts. ***** Really? How's that? People of all > ages can learn to do it almost immediately. They are very user > friendly. > > And although they are costly, once one learns the myriad of exercises > you can do with the KB it becomes apparent they are possibly the best > deal in the exericse world. Virtually a compete gym for the price of > three kettlebells. > > 3 bells and a barbell set and most people are set. ***** One KB can be a convenient way to workout, true. But a full body workout sans weights is also possible. Throw some bands in a bag and a creative thinker can come up with a myriad of choices. How about clubbells? Another good choice. Keep all options open... > Hope this helps, > > Mark Reifkind > Palo Alto Ca ***** By the way, atomic athletic offers beautiful-looking kettlebells that can be filled with shot or bb's for different weights. I have a 25 pounder that can be filled as heavy as 75 or more. They're also a little cheaper then the Pavel sponsored models. There are also plate loaded adjuctab;e models out there. A google search will help. Chip Conrad Bodytribe Fitness Sacramento, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Due to the lack of scientific research on the subject, this is a difficult topic to discuss. From a purely biomechanical perspective, the additional inertia created from the swinging of the COG set outside the lifter-weight system is irrefutable and definitely significant--just do the math. My colleagues and I are currently producing original 3rd party university research that shows that there are indeed significant differences in motor unit activity measured by surface EMG relative to the physical forces produced from the mechanics involved in lifting a kettlebell that favor the kettlebell v. dumbell. It will be published in the near future. Adam Cronin Kettlebell Concepts, Inc. NYC, NY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 > ***** The range of motion of a weight doesn't automatically mean a > great deal to the range of motion of a joint. If so, I'd attach a > plate to a 10 foot rope and throw it around. As for other instruments > that do have increased range of motion, the Weaver Stick, Indian clubs > (or the modern Clubbell), sand bags and sledgehammers can all offer > extended range of motions. > Mark: And an increased range of motion for the joint doesn't necessarily mean more work than a smaller one. With the kb snatch the ankle, knee hip and shoulder ALL go through medium size flexion and extensions. Together they add up to a sizeable sum with a considerable amount of work. You have quite a bit of mass and acceleration on both the ascent and descent as well as the reversal strengh involved. > ***** They do have a fun element that can't be argued. My only > concern is the often vehement proselytizing done by the kb converts. > > As for the weightlessness of a kb during certain motions, what exactly > would the benefits of that be? Mark I also agree that the fervent accolytes that see the KB as a panacea, and not just one part of the basic iron skills are misguided, to say the least. I just have found them to be the most efficient weight training tool for the average person that I have seen in my last 30 plus years of training. As far as the weightlessness the key is that in order to achieve that state with a KB of considerable size a serious amount of force had to be generated and will need to be controlled through a very large ROM . All in all a huge amount of work. But it really needs to be felt to be believed. Think about hi rep clean and jerks with a barbell. > > > ***** The stretch position of a powerlift should never last that long, > since after the stretch, no matter how heavy, the contraction ought to > be moving the weight out of any range of motion that would be > considered 'excessive' or anything that could possibly damage the > integrity of a liaments tensile strength. If I were to sit at the > bottom of a squat with 300+ pounds on my back for a while, that may > have an increased potential for injury, but no powerlifter will stay > in that position for very long, and once they're on their way up, even > a a stall, they will be well out of the way of a stretched postition > that could hurt ligaments (at this point, ligament damage, or any > other damge, would come from bad technique probably). > > There can be a plyometric action involved with kettlebells, which > would ultimately train the stretch reflex, but again, not exclusive to > kb's. Mark: The stretch I was referring to is that which would occur when the ligaments are put under load for a prolonged time such as the sticking point in a max effort DL or squat. Especially if the back rounds at all. Pavels point that the connective tissue usually functions to transmit the force rapidly and then rel-loads.Rarely ,in sport, does it stay under constant load for any length of time. I timed my good friend Steve Silver pulling a 683 DL at fourteen plus seconds from start to finish.A long grind to say the least. > ***** That's great, since back health is a major issue today. I too, > have a rep for building backs, and kb's are an essential part. But > before they entered my gym, my clients were still making wonderful > progress. Mark: Agreed and I was having good luck re-habbing backs before kbs as well. I just found them a better tool than anything else I was using. > > ***** Don't tell my clients who snatch and clean with them regularly > that. But heck, they snatch and clean anything, barrels, sandbags, > single arm barbell snatches, small children, lunch meat...whatever. > > By the way, I've got an upcoming article about old school lift coming > up on a website soon (and it even includes me using a kettlebell). > Mark: LOL! Well I stand corrected. I was thinking more of Iron minds design which certainly can't be snatched. Let me know where the article is, love to read it. Mark Reifkind Palo Alto Ca WWW.Girya.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 That's a very abstruse way of putting it, but I don't know if I'm convinced. It sounds like you are saying the skill involved in learning to weightlessly flip or swing a kettlebell is transferable to other, dissimilar sporting activities. Sequential on/offs, modulating force, spacio-temporal moments, etc... are you really talking about a general, transferrable quality or are you just trying to obfuscate the fact that you are talking about a movement- specific skill with excessive verbosity? Since when is a " raw skill " any more tranferable outside a highly specific movement type than any other skill? Can you site any evidence of such skill transference occuring? Wilbanks ville, FL > To address the question about the value of momentary " weightlessness " of > a kb during some movements: > > Skill and goal acquisition is as dependant upon motor unit excitation as > it is inhibition. Context and task dependant sequential segmental > recruitment that is to be intentionally coincidental (or not) with goal > associated variables is largely dependant upon one's ability to rapidly > and accurately turn on/off the right motor units at the right time in > the right space. The weightlessness that occurs with, for example, some > flipping movements of the kb can help the lifter learn when to > efficiently modulate force output by turning on/off what resources are > un/necessary at coincidental spacio-temporal moments. Examples of the > need to turn on/off motor units in an efficient manner can be found in > many ADL's and sports/activities, so the applicability of this raw > skill, to efficiently modulate force output, that can be developed by > using an implement such as a kb, is widespread across large and variable > populations. > > Adam Cronin > Kettlebell Concepts, Inc. > NYC, NY > > Re: kettlebells (why not dumbells?) > > > Mark writes: > > I disagree. The arc is not relatively small. Travelling from overhead > > to at least a foot behind your body( as in the snatch) is probably > > the longest range of motion a weight can travel in a free weight > > exericse. Can you tell me an exercise where the weight travels a > > farther distance? > > ***** The range of motion of a weight doesn't automatically mean a > great deal to the range of motion of a joint. If so, I'd attach a > plate to a 10 foot rope and throw it around. As for other instruments > that do have increased range of motion, the Weaver Stick, Indian clubs > (or the modern Clubbell), sand bags and sledgehammers can all offer > extended range of motions. > > > Mark writes: > > Again I disagree. I have swung dbs in the same way as the kbs and > > the " feel " is nowhere near the same. The off center mass of the kb > > totally changes the dynamics of the swing. There is a > > distinct " bottom " position in gymnastics swings that the kbs also > > possess. You cannot get this with db's at all. When you swing the kb > > correctly and drive the hips at the proper position the kb becomes > > almost weightless in your hand. This is not the case with the db. > > > > You of course CAN do this with db's but the kbs are much more > > efficient and WAY more FUN to swing. > > ***** They do have a fun element that can't be argued. My only > concern is the often vehement proselytizing done by the kb converts. > > As for the weightlessness of a kb during certain motions, what exactly > would the benefits of that be? > > > Mark writes: > > > > According to Pavel, the structure of ligaments is wave like and used > > to dissapating force quickly (as in other ballistic movements like > > running, jumping.) The force is quickly transmitted, stretching out > > the ligament and then allowing it to return to its wave like > > structure. > > > > Training in this manner(ballistically) allows for an adaptation in > > these structures. In a slow grinding lift which involve the posterior > > similar to KB swings or lifts( such as DL's or squats) the ligaments > > can be stretched out for long periods( such as a max lift which can > > take 3-5 seconds to complete-at minimum).This prolonged pressure on > > the structure can lead to more tears or weakening. > > ***** The stretch position of a powerlift should never last that long, > since after the stretch, no matter how heavy, the contraction ought to > be moving the weight out of any range of motion that would be > considered 'excessive' or anything that could possibly damage the > integrity of a liaments tensile strength. If I were to sit at the > bottom of a squat with 300+ pounds on my back for a while, that may > have an increased potential for injury, but no powerlifter will stay > in that position for very long, and once they're on their way up, even > a a stall, they will be well out of the way of a stretched postition > that could hurt ligaments (at this point, ligament damage, or any > other damge, would come from bad technique probably). > > There can be a plyometric action involved with kettlebells, which > would ultimately train the stretch reflex, but again, not exclusive to > kb's. > > > Anecdotally, I herniated L4-L5 in 2000. 18 months of rehab later I > > could squat and deadlift but tolerate almost no volume. KB training( > > starting with swings but expanding to snatches and cleans) helped > > strengten my back to the point where I can now do previous levels of > > squat and DL training with no problem. > > > > I have also many examples of clients with previous back problems who > > have thrived on progressive amounts of KB swinging and whose back > > have never felt better. Anecdotal of course, but in my business > > consistent results speak volumes. > > ***** That's great, since back health is a major issue today. I too, > have a rep for building backs, and kb's are an essential part. But > before they entered my gym, my clients were still making wonderful > progress. > > > Mark writes: > > > > I agree that the shot or plate loaded KBs can be used very > > effectively for swings but you cannot snatch or clean them at > > all. Again, since most need only two or three KB's and you can do SO > > MANY exercises with them and they will last a lifetime I see them as > > an excellent investment not just a purchase. > > ***** Don't tell my clients who snatch and clean with them regularly > that. But heck, they snatch and clean anything, barrels, sandbags, > single arm barbell snatches, small children, lunch meat...whatever. > > By the way, I've got an upcoming article about old school lift coming > up on a website soon (and it even includes me using a kettlebell). > > Chip Conrad > Bodytribe Fitness > Sacramento, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 I look foward to the finished product. Chip Conrad Bodytribe Fitness Sacramento, CA > Hi Chip, > > As in all exercise programs, I think there are better choices of > exercises, not better exercises or implements, dependant upon the goal. > I agree, the people, as you say, " shouting from the mountain top " may be > caught up a bit, however, finding a new toy is always exciting. > Dependant upon the context/task of the desired training outcome, better > choices of exercises will yield better results. The KB is indeed > different, and may be a better or worse choice at any given time--the > key is to understand its differences and when/how/why to implement them. > About the research: > All good questions! > Yes, we aim to show significant differences in MU recruitment patterns. > Why not other implements? Well, to satisfy my curiosity, I'd love to > include all those! And I look forward to evenually getting to all > those--at this point, just one step at a time. > What exercises you ask? Well, you'll just have to wait for the study! > Don't want anyone to steal our thunder! Actually, I hope you understand > I can't talk about that without consent from my research partners, > sorry. Would love to explore any ideas you may have... > > Stay tuned, > > Adam Cronin > Kettlebell Concepts, Inc. > NYC, NY > > Re: kettlebells (why not dumbells?) > > > > My colleagues and I are currently producing original 3rd > > party university research that shows that there are indeed significant > > differences in motor unit activity measured by surface EMG relative to > > the physical forces produced from the mechanics involved in lifting a > > kettlebell that favor the kettlebell v. dumbell. It will be published > > in the near future. > > > > Adam Cronin > > Kettlebell Concepts, Inc. > > NYC, NY > > > ***** Different, of course, but I think the shouting from the > mountain tops is how much 'better' it is. Can that be measured and > proven? How is the kettlebell 'favored?' 'Twould have to be > explained how the motor unit firing from a kettlebell is more > desireable then a dumbbell. But why aren't other weights included > (clubbells, leverage sticks, medicine balls, sand bags)? What > exercises were used and why were they chosen? > > Chip Conrad > Bodytribe Fitness > Sacramento, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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