Re: on the run, he's at it again

[Guest guest]

My daughter who is on the spectrum was and still is very impulsive.As a toddler

and preschooler I feared for her safety. Since she was unable to understand the

need for safety and because she was so impulsive, I severely limited her

freedom. I parked next to the cart corral and moved her from the car seat to the

shopping cart and buckled the seat belt.She had come so close to being hit by

cars in the parking lot, I had to do whatever I had to to keep the child alive!

We practiced following directions a lot at home. I would tell her " stay here "

then walk a couple feet away.When she stayed, I praised her " good job !you stayed

! " When she ran off , I would get her calmly and quietly walk her to the same

spot and try again. This takes time and energy.When she could follow that

direction after practicing all over inside the house, we did the same teaching

outside inside our fenced yard, then as she was successful, we tried other

settings(small stores or libraries or small restraunts work best to start. My

daughter was diagnosed with ADHD and Autism Spectrum disorder at age 8. Now she

is 14 and can safely navigate parking lots only if her ADHD meds have kicked in

or if I am there to remind her to " watch for cars " . I used the vest with a leash

when I was pregnant and couldn't lift my daughter at age 3. When she got older,

she would push the shopping cart(good for her sensory system) I would steer the

front corner of the cart. Any time when she was younger and would run off, I

would severley limit her freedom for a time and have her practice.I hope this is

helpful to you.

>

> Okay,

>

> My 3.5 year old son runs off. I posted about this before, but I need some new

ideas. This week, once, up to 3 times a day he has gotten away from me. Not

just 10 or 20 or even 50 feet. I'm talking about running off, going around the

bend where I can't see, ignoring all requests to come back. I had to employ the

help of strangers to corral him while I caught up...then today, my worst

nightmare!

>

> We were home, I was talking to my neighbor for a minute or two. He goes 10

feet away to see if the plants need water, I look up and he's GONE! We looked

everywhere, couldn't find him, so I had to call the police. The groundskeeper

where we lived found him 15 minutes later, thank goodness, but I was hysterical.

>

> my question: what kind of therapist deals with this type of problem? He's

newly diagnosed, so a lot of his therapy has not started yet, but who do I

discuss this with? Is it OT? social skills? psychiatrist? ABA? or what?

>

> Thanks so much for any guidance.

>

[Guest guest]

My daughter who is on the spectrum was and still is very impulsive.As a toddler

and preschooler I feared for her safety. Since she was unable to understand the

need for safety and because she was so impulsive, I severely limited her

freedom. I parked next to the cart corral and moved her from the car seat to the

shopping cart and buckled the seat belt.She had come so close to being hit by

cars in the parking lot, I had to do whatever I had to to keep the child alive!

We practiced following directions a lot at home. I would tell her " stay here "

then walk a couple feet away.When she stayed, I praised her " good job !you stayed

! " When she ran off , I would get her calmly and quietly walk her to the same

spot and try again. This takes time and energy.When she could follow that

direction after practicing all over inside the house, we did the same teaching

outside inside our fenced yard, then as she was successful, we tried other

settings(small stores or libraries or small restraunts work best to start. My

daughter was diagnosed with ADHD and Autism Spectrum disorder at age 8. Now she

is 14 and can safely navigate parking lots only if her ADHD meds have kicked in

or if I am there to remind her to " watch for cars " . I used the vest with a leash

when I was pregnant and couldn't lift my daughter at age 3. When she got older,

she would push the shopping cart(good for her sensory system) I would steer the

front corner of the cart. Any time when she was younger and would run off, I

would severley limit her freedom for a time and have her practice.I hope this is

helpful to you.

>

> Okay,

>

> My 3.5 year old son runs off. I posted about this before, but I need some new

ideas. This week, once, up to 3 times a day he has gotten away from me. Not

just 10 or 20 or even 50 feet. I'm talking about running off, going around the

bend where I can't see, ignoring all requests to come back. I had to employ the

help of strangers to corral him while I caught up...then today, my worst

nightmare!

>

> We were home, I was talking to my neighbor for a minute or two. He goes 10

feet away to see if the plants need water, I look up and he's GONE! We looked

everywhere, couldn't find him, so I had to call the police. The groundskeeper

where we lived found him 15 minutes later, thank goodness, but I was hysterical.

>

> my question: what kind of therapist deals with this type of problem? He's

newly diagnosed, so a lot of his therapy has not started yet, but who do I

discuss this with? Is it OT? social skills? psychiatrist? ABA? or what?

>

> Thanks so much for any guidance.

>

[Guest guest]

If the child is "different" and a-typical, wouldn't it make sense that "sometimes" he is going to learn in a a-typical way? Somethings can be taught normally, but every child is different and what works for one child may not work with another, even in the same family. Unfortunately, we have to keep re-inventing the wheel for some children. Some children are bothered by a parent yelling at them. Mine could care less if you yell at him. If I take his DS away he goes bizzerk!

I just don't think we need to play the blaming game when we don't know the child or the mother. We don't know enough to judge. We aren't here to do that anyway.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 10:02:44 PMSubject: Re: on the run, he's at it againHmm, guess I am being a bit too direct again, sorry, but I am noticing a trend here to kind of accept a child as being "different" and not being firm with him, and not insisting he can learn the usual way all children do. I must admit it is a balancing act and each one of us mothers and grandmothers have to find what works for us, but I would caution on being too permissive with the child also. I have raised three sons and a daughter and the autistic one was difficult but I stuck to the same standards teaching him as I did the others, must admit

they were all very unique and balance was needed.I am feeling my way on this also, my little grandson Lucas was just now here with his brother and between the two of them I am now spent! It is hard to tell what is going on in each one of them, one "normal" and one not, it is hard to see where autism begins and where it is just plain little boy stuff too.That is what I am talking about, I simply don't think we should blame everything on autism like the child has an "out" to plain old discipline either.With Lucas just now he just kept asking me if water was in the swimming pool which I said no it isn't and even if it was it is too cold to swim, he asked me about a hundred times. Also he kept telling me to quit talking and telling me I am not listening to him. Got really exasperated with me and can be very dramatic. I got a little tired of me telling me to stop talking because that is

exactly what I wanted him to do. So I switched rolls on him and I became him and told him he was a the grandma. And then I kept saying is the pool filled yet, is the pool filled yet, is the pool filled yet, is the pool filled yet, stop talking, stop talking, is the pool filled yet.Then I asked him how it felt to be me while I was being him. He didn't say much but I think he is thinking about it.His brother has traits that drive me up a wall also. When I told their mom when she finally got here she said, "Get the stick, hold it in your lap." I haven't resorted much to that yet with them, but for summer I may have to crack down as I think they will be here an awful lot and I am not going to let them rule me. It is too much!My daughter brought me a white t-shirt with a really pretty blue Mustang on it with the words, "Old School" I kind of liked that...Onward!Carolyn

;o) R. Tucker wrote:> YOU ARE NOT THE PROBLEM!! You just need help and tools to come up with > a solution. You aren't wonder woman! I would keep him confined as much > as possible until you figure out how to get the upper hand in the > situation! Good luck!> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------> *From:* Carolyn > *To:* autism-aspergers > *Sent:* Thu, June 16, 2011 6:11:58 PM> *Subject:* Re: on the run, he's at it again>> Hello again, was cut off when I responded to , but re-read your> post below and it sounds like you are not giving

your a child a voice> command and then seeing to it that he obeys you! You are not following> through. Start by saying his name, and; "Do NOT run away!" When he> starts to run away anyway, grab his hand and say, "No! do not run away!"> You have to follow through with what you are saying by forcing him to> obey your voice command. Do this over and over as many times as he needs> in order to "get it.">> If he is a strong willed child he will no doubt challenge you, so you> will have to get stronger in meaning it. How bad to you want him to> learn to obey you and be an obedient child?>> He is not the problem you are the problem for not training him to obey> you and to respect your authority.>> It does not matter of if he has autism he still has to be trained, and> all the more so because he is going to have a harder time functioning in> a

world where the other kids already know this stuff. He will not be> excused from obeying authority because he has autism.>> Also if he was only recently diagnosed what have you been using to train> him? By 3 1/2 he should be doing really well obeying you by now...>> Carolyn>>> karjina wrote:> >> > Okay,> >> > My 3.5 year old son runs off. I posted about this before, but I need> > some new ideas. This week, once, up to 3 times a day he has gotten> > away from me. Not just 10 or 20 or even 50 feet. I'm talking about> > running off, going around the bend where I can't see, ignoring all> > requests to come back. I had to employ the help of strangers to corral> > him while I caught up...then today, my worst nightmare!> >> > We were home, I was talking to my neighbor for a minute or two.

He> > goes 10 feet away to see if the plants need water, I look up and he's> > GONE! We looked everywhere, couldn't find him, so I had to call the> > police. The groundskeeper where we lived found him 15 minutes later,> > thank goodness, but I was hysterical.> >> > my question: what kind of therapist deals with this type of problem?> > He's newly diagnosed, so a lot of his therapy has not started yet, but> > who do I discuss this with? Is it OT? social skills? psychiatrist?> > ABA? or what?> >> > Thanks so much for any guidance.> >> >>>> ------------------------------------>>

[Guest guest]

If the child is "different" and a-typical, wouldn't it make sense that "sometimes" he is going to learn in a a-typical way? Somethings can be taught normally, but every child is different and what works for one child may not work with another, even in the same family. Unfortunately, we have to keep re-inventing the wheel for some children. Some children are bothered by a parent yelling at them. Mine could care less if you yell at him. If I take his DS away he goes bizzerk!

I just don't think we need to play the blaming game when we don't know the child or the mother. We don't know enough to judge. We aren't here to do that anyway.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 10:02:44 PMSubject: Re: on the run, he's at it againHmm, guess I am being a bit too direct again, sorry, but I am noticing a trend here to kind of accept a child as being "different" and not being firm with him, and not insisting he can learn the usual way all children do. I must admit it is a balancing act and each one of us mothers and grandmothers have to find what works for us, but I would caution on being too permissive with the child also. I have raised three sons and a daughter and the autistic one was difficult but I stuck to the same standards teaching him as I did the others, must admit

they were all very unique and balance was needed.I am feeling my way on this also, my little grandson Lucas was just now here with his brother and between the two of them I am now spent! It is hard to tell what is going on in each one of them, one "normal" and one not, it is hard to see where autism begins and where it is just plain little boy stuff too.That is what I am talking about, I simply don't think we should blame everything on autism like the child has an "out" to plain old discipline either.With Lucas just now he just kept asking me if water was in the swimming pool which I said no it isn't and even if it was it is too cold to swim, he asked me about a hundred times. Also he kept telling me to quit talking and telling me I am not listening to him. Got really exasperated with me and can be very dramatic. I got a little tired of me telling me to stop talking because that is

exactly what I wanted him to do. So I switched rolls on him and I became him and told him he was a the grandma. And then I kept saying is the pool filled yet, is the pool filled yet, is the pool filled yet, is the pool filled yet, stop talking, stop talking, is the pool filled yet.Then I asked him how it felt to be me while I was being him. He didn't say much but I think he is thinking about it.His brother has traits that drive me up a wall also. When I told their mom when she finally got here she said, "Get the stick, hold it in your lap." I haven't resorted much to that yet with them, but for summer I may have to crack down as I think they will be here an awful lot and I am not going to let them rule me. It is too much!My daughter brought me a white t-shirt with a really pretty blue Mustang on it with the words, "Old School" I kind of liked that...Onward!Carolyn

;o) R. Tucker wrote:> YOU ARE NOT THE PROBLEM!! You just need help and tools to come up with > a solution. You aren't wonder woman! I would keep him confined as much > as possible until you figure out how to get the upper hand in the > situation! Good luck!> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------> *From:* Carolyn > *To:* autism-aspergers > *Sent:* Thu, June 16, 2011 6:11:58 PM> *Subject:* Re: on the run, he's at it again>> Hello again, was cut off when I responded to , but re-read your> post below and it sounds like you are not giving

your a child a voice> command and then seeing to it that he obeys you! You are not following> through. Start by saying his name, and; "Do NOT run away!" When he> starts to run away anyway, grab his hand and say, "No! do not run away!"> You have to follow through with what you are saying by forcing him to> obey your voice command. Do this over and over as many times as he needs> in order to "get it.">> If he is a strong willed child he will no doubt challenge you, so you> will have to get stronger in meaning it. How bad to you want him to> learn to obey you and be an obedient child?>> He is not the problem you are the problem for not training him to obey> you and to respect your authority.>> It does not matter of if he has autism he still has to be trained, and> all the more so because he is going to have a harder time functioning in> a

world where the other kids already know this stuff. He will not be> excused from obeying authority because he has autism.>> Also if he was only recently diagnosed what have you been using to train> him? By 3 1/2 he should be doing really well obeying you by now...>> Carolyn>>> karjina wrote:> >> > Okay,> >> > My 3.5 year old son runs off. I posted about this before, but I need> > some new ideas. This week, once, up to 3 times a day he has gotten> > away from me. Not just 10 or 20 or even 50 feet. I'm talking about> > running off, going around the bend where I can't see, ignoring all> > requests to come back. I had to employ the help of strangers to corral> > him while I caught up...then today, my worst nightmare!> >> > We were home, I was talking to my neighbor for a minute or two.

He> > goes 10 feet away to see if the plants need water, I look up and he's> > GONE! We looked everywhere, couldn't find him, so I had to call the> > police. The groundskeeper where we lived found him 15 minutes later,> > thank goodness, but I was hysterical.> >> > my question: what kind of therapist deals with this type of problem?> > He's newly diagnosed, so a lot of his therapy has not started yet, but> > who do I discuss this with? Is it OT? social skills? psychiatrist?> > ABA? or what?> >> > Thanks so much for any guidance.> >> >>>> ------------------------------------>>

[Guest guest]

I agree Karjina,

my son runs off a lot! I tell him all the time not to run off and he gets reprimanded as well. However, I think in my initial response to you, my son thinks its a game....he likes to be chased. No matter the terrified look on my face, he still is giggling and laughing while continuing to run......I just try to put him in a buggy or hold his hand more when we are running errands. I don't think its a matter of telling a child its dangerous to run off or how scared you are as a parent when the child has a hard time understanding you.......

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of karjinaSent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 8:24 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Thanks for that. I sent the message so that I could get some ideas from people who have been through this before. Let's not call out parenting styles, as someone devoted an entire thread to recently, and the moderator underscored. Obviously, a lot of our kiddos have issues that don't respond to the usual parenting tricks. He doesn't do it to be mean, he honestly doesn't understand that what he did was wrong. Just because we don't know each other, doesn't mean we can't be civil. =) Also, thanks to everyone for all the great ideas. > >> > Okay,> >> > My 3.5 year old son runs off. I posted about this before, but I need > > some new ideas. This week, once, up to 3 times a day he has gotten > > away from me. Not just 10 or 20 or even 50 feet. I'm talking about > > running off, going around the bend where I can't see, ignoring all > > requests to come back. I had to employ the help of strangers to corral > > him while I caught up...then today, my worst nightmare!> >> > We were home, I was talking to my neighbor for a minute or two. He > > goes 10 feet away to see if the plants need water, I look up and he's > > GONE! We looked everywhere, couldn't find him, so I had to call the > > police. The groundskeeper where we lived found him 15 minutes later, > > thank goodness, but I was hysterical.> >> > my question: what kind of therapist deals with this type of problem? > > He's newly diagnosed, so a lot of his therapy has not started yet, but > > who do I discuss this with? Is it OT? social skills? psychiatrist? > > ABA? or what?> >> > Thanks so much for any guidance.> >> > > > > ------------------------------------> >

[Guest guest]

I agree Karjina,

my son runs off a lot! I tell him all the time not to run off and he gets reprimanded as well. However, I think in my initial response to you, my son thinks its a game....he likes to be chased. No matter the terrified look on my face, he still is giggling and laughing while continuing to run......I just try to put him in a buggy or hold his hand more when we are running errands. I don't think its a matter of telling a child its dangerous to run off or how scared you are as a parent when the child has a hard time understanding you.......

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of karjinaSent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 8:24 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Thanks for that. I sent the message so that I could get some ideas from people who have been through this before. Let's not call out parenting styles, as someone devoted an entire thread to recently, and the moderator underscored. Obviously, a lot of our kiddos have issues that don't respond to the usual parenting tricks. He doesn't do it to be mean, he honestly doesn't understand that what he did was wrong. Just because we don't know each other, doesn't mean we can't be civil. =) Also, thanks to everyone for all the great ideas. > >> > Okay,> >> > My 3.5 year old son runs off. I posted about this before, but I need > > some new ideas. This week, once, up to 3 times a day he has gotten > > away from me. Not just 10 or 20 or even 50 feet. I'm talking about > > running off, going around the bend where I can't see, ignoring all > > requests to come back. I had to employ the help of strangers to corral > > him while I caught up...then today, my worst nightmare!> >> > We were home, I was talking to my neighbor for a minute or two. He > > goes 10 feet away to see if the plants need water, I look up and he's > > GONE! We looked everywhere, couldn't find him, so I had to call the > > police. The groundskeeper where we lived found him 15 minutes later, > > thank goodness, but I was hysterical.> >> > my question: what kind of therapist deals with this type of problem? > > He's newly diagnosed, so a lot of his therapy has not started yet, but > > who do I discuss this with? Is it OT? social skills? psychiatrist? > > ABA? or what?> >> > Thanks so much for any guidance.> >> > > > > ------------------------------------> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Lindsey,

May I ask you at what age did you place your child on medication? I am going back and forth with this issue. My son is 3 he will be 4 in December, at first I was totally against medication, now.....I am confused.

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of Lindsey senSent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:36 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: on the run, he's at it again

My child used to do this all of the time. We had to keep hands on him at all times because it would be so dangerous. Once he got loose and ran away at Six Flags, and they found him climbing up the side of the ferris wheel!!

The best thing I can suggest is medication. I know it is controversial, but it really calmed him down and allowed him to focus more and follow directions. This was prescribed first by his pediatrician, and then by a psychiatrist who has followed him for years.

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We started meds in first grade. He probably could have used it in Kindergarten.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:23:11 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi Lindsey,

May I ask you at what age did you place your child on medication? I am going back and forth with this issue. My son is 3 he will be 4 in December, at first I was totally against medication, now.....I am confused.

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of Lindsey senSent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:36 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: on the run, he's at it again

My child used to do this all of the time. We had to keep hands on him at all times because it would be so dangerous. Once he got loose and ran away at Six Flags, and they found him climbing up the side of the ferris wheel!! The best thing I can suggest is medication. I know it is controversial, but it really calmed him down and allowed him to focus more and follow directions. This was prescribed first by his pediatrician, and then by a psychiatrist who has followed him for years.

http://5kidswdisabilities.wordpress.com

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We started meds in first grade. He probably could have used it in Kindergarten.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:23:11 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi Lindsey,

May I ask you at what age did you place your child on medication? I am going back and forth with this issue. My son is 3 he will be 4 in December, at first I was totally against medication, now.....I am confused.

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of Lindsey senSent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:36 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: on the run, he's at it again

My child used to do this all of the time. We had to keep hands on him at all times because it would be so dangerous. Once he got loose and ran away at Six Flags, and they found him climbing up the side of the ferris wheel!! The best thing I can suggest is medication. I know it is controversial, but it really calmed him down and allowed him to focus more and follow directions. This was prescribed first by his pediatrician, and then by a psychiatrist who has followed him for years.

http://5kidswdisabilities.wordpress.com

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Hi ,

My son is currently in Pre-school, I am wondering if that is too long, plus he is non-verbal so how would I know if the medication was making him ill or just not good.....

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:25 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

We started meds in first grade. He probably could have used it in Kindergarten.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:23:11 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi Lindsey,

May I ask you at what age did you place your child on medication? I am going back and forth with this issue. My son is 3 he will be 4 in December, at first I was totally against medication, now.....I am confused.

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of Lindsey senSent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:36 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: on the run, he's at it again

My child used to do this all of the time. We had to keep hands on him at all times because it would be so dangerous. Once he got loose and ran away at Six Flags, and they found him climbing up the side of the ferris wheel!! The best thing I can suggest is medication. I know it is controversial, but it really calmed him down and allowed him to focus more and follow directions. This was prescribed first by his pediatrician, and then by a psychiatrist who has followed him for years.

http://5kidswdisabilities.wordpress.com

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Hi ,

My son is currently in Pre-school, I am wondering if that is too long, plus he is non-verbal so how would I know if the medication was making him ill or just not good.....

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:25 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

We started meds in first grade. He probably could have used it in Kindergarten.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:23:11 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi Lindsey,

May I ask you at what age did you place your child on medication? I am going back and forth with this issue. My son is 3 he will be 4 in December, at first I was totally against medication, now.....I am confused.

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of Lindsey senSent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:36 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: on the run, he's at it again

My child used to do this all of the time. We had to keep hands on him at all times because it would be so dangerous. Once he got loose and ran away at Six Flags, and they found him climbing up the side of the ferris wheel!! The best thing I can suggest is medication. I know it is controversial, but it really calmed him down and allowed him to focus more and follow directions. This was prescribed first by his pediatrician, and then by a psychiatrist who has followed him for years.

http://5kidswdisabilities.wordpress.com

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Do you have a developmental pediatrician? A psychologist? I think that's probably a question for them. I do know that kids that are non-verbal still get meds. What symptoms are you wanting to medicate him for? Is he hyper? self-injurious? What is the puzzle you are trying to solve with him? Do you have him in speech therapy?

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:29:08 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi ,

My son is currently in Pre-school, I am wondering if that is too long, plus he is non-verbal so how would I know if the medication was making him ill or just not good.....

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:25 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

We started meds in first grade. He probably could have used it in Kindergarten.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:23:11 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi Lindsey,

May I ask you at what age did you place your child on medication? I am going back and forth with this issue. My son is 3 he will be 4 in December, at first I was totally against medication, now.....I am confused.

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of Lindsey senSent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:36 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: on the run, he's at it again

My child used to do this all of the time. We had to keep hands on him at all times because it would be so dangerous. Once he got loose and ran away at Six Flags, and they found him climbing up the side of the ferris wheel!! The best thing I can suggest is medication. I know it is controversial, but it really calmed him down and allowed him to focus more and follow directions. This was prescribed first by his pediatrician, and then by a psychiatrist who has followed him for years.

http://5kidswdisabilities.wordpress.com

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Do you have a developmental pediatrician? A psychologist? I think that's probably a question for them. I do know that kids that are non-verbal still get meds. What symptoms are you wanting to medicate him for? Is he hyper? self-injurious? What is the puzzle you are trying to solve with him? Do you have him in speech therapy?

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:29:08 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi ,

My son is currently in Pre-school, I am wondering if that is too long, plus he is non-verbal so how would I know if the medication was making him ill or just not good.....

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:25 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

We started meds in first grade. He probably could have used it in Kindergarten.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:23:11 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi Lindsey,

May I ask you at what age did you place your child on medication? I am going back and forth with this issue. My son is 3 he will be 4 in December, at first I was totally against medication, now.....I am confused.

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of Lindsey senSent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:36 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: on the run, he's at it again

My child used to do this all of the time. We had to keep hands on him at all times because it would be so dangerous. Once he got loose and ran away at Six Flags, and they found him climbing up the side of the ferris wheel!! The best thing I can suggest is medication. I know it is controversial, but it really calmed him down and allowed him to focus more and follow directions. This was prescribed first by his pediatrician, and then by a psychiatrist who has followed him for years.

http://5kidswdisabilities.wordpress.com

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Hi ,

He has a regular pediatrician, a psychologist, which we have an appt to see at the end of the month. This is why I am really questioning meds because I was going to bring it up to her at this next appt. My son is very hyper at times.....he is now having sleep issues. Like if I give him a nap during the day, he doesn't want to go to sleep at night, so I am contemplating eliminating the nap all together, however, if he doesn't have his nap, he can get really cranky and it just makes everyone miserable! He receives speech therapy and OT in pre-school. I just want him to calm down a little bit and concentrate more, but then again, he's 3! So many decisions......

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:33 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Do you have a developmental pediatrician? A psychologist? I think that's probably a question for them. I do know that kids that are non-verbal still get meds. What symptoms are you wanting to medicate him for? Is he hyper? self-injurious? What is the puzzle you are trying to solve with him? Do you have him in speech therapy?

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:29:08 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi ,

My son is currently in Pre-school, I am wondering if that is too long, plus he is non-verbal so how would I know if the medication was making him ill or just not good.....

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:25 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

We started meds in first grade. He probably could have used it in Kindergarten.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:23:11 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi Lindsey,

May I ask you at what age did you place your child on medication? I am going back and forth with this issue. My son is 3 he will be 4 in December, at first I was totally against medication, now.....I am confused.

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of Lindsey senSent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:36 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: on the run, he's at it again

My child used to do this all of the time. We had to keep hands on him at all times because it would be so dangerous. Once he got loose and ran away at Six Flags, and they found him climbing up the side of the ferris wheel!! The best thing I can suggest is medication. I know it is controversial, but it really calmed him down and allowed him to focus more and follow directions. This was prescribed first by his pediatrician, and then by a psychiatrist who has followed him for years.

http://5kidswdisabilities.wordpress.com

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Hi ,

He has a regular pediatrician, a psychologist, which we have an appt to see at the end of the month. This is why I am really questioning meds because I was going to bring it up to her at this next appt. My son is very hyper at times.....he is now having sleep issues. Like if I give him a nap during the day, he doesn't want to go to sleep at night, so I am contemplating eliminating the nap all together, however, if he doesn't have his nap, he can get really cranky and it just makes everyone miserable! He receives speech therapy and OT in pre-school. I just want him to calm down a little bit and concentrate more, but then again, he's 3! So many decisions......

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:33 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Do you have a developmental pediatrician? A psychologist? I think that's probably a question for them. I do know that kids that are non-verbal still get meds. What symptoms are you wanting to medicate him for? Is he hyper? self-injurious? What is the puzzle you are trying to solve with him? Do you have him in speech therapy?

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:29:08 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi ,

My son is currently in Pre-school, I am wondering if that is too long, plus he is non-verbal so how would I know if the medication was making him ill or just not good.....

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:25 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

We started meds in first grade. He probably could have used it in Kindergarten.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:23:11 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi Lindsey,

May I ask you at what age did you place your child on medication? I am going back and forth with this issue. My son is 3 he will be 4 in December, at first I was totally against medication, now.....I am confused.

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of Lindsey senSent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:36 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: on the run, he's at it again

My child used to do this all of the time. We had to keep hands on him at all times because it would be so dangerous. Once he got loose and ran away at Six Flags, and they found him climbing up the side of the ferris wheel!! The best thing I can suggest is medication. I know it is controversial, but it really calmed him down and allowed him to focus more and follow directions. This was prescribed first by his pediatrician, and then by a psychiatrist who has followed him for years.

http://5kidswdisabilities.wordpress.com

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Three is VERY young to medicate! I think 4 is the youngest around here for stimulant meds. I think you should try to take away the nap and think of low stimulation activities for nap time, like watching a movie, but cut out TV movies for other times of the day so "down time" is special. He won't want to rest if he can watch tv anytime he wants.

Melatonin works wonders for getting them to sleep naturally. Start out with 1 mg. and go up from there IF he needs it with the max of 3 mg. total for a little guy.

Good luck!

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:50:25 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi ,

He has a regular pediatrician, a psychologist, which we have an appt to see at the end of the month. This is why I am really questioning meds because I was going to bring it up to her at this next appt. My son is very hyper at times.....he is now having sleep issues. Like if I give him a nap during the day, he doesn't want to go to sleep at night, so I am contemplating eliminating the nap all together, however, if he doesn't have his nap, he can get really cranky and it just makes everyone miserable! He receives speech therapy and OT in pre-school. I just want him to calm down a little bit and concentrate more, but then again, he's 3! So many decisions......

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:33 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Do you have a developmental pediatrician? A psychologist? I think that's probably a question for them. I do know that kids that are non-verbal still get meds. What symptoms are you wanting to medicate him for? Is he hyper? self-injurious? What is the puzzle you are trying to solve with him? Do you have him in speech therapy?

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:29:08 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi ,

My son is currently in Pre-school, I am wondering if that is too long, plus he is non-verbal so how would I know if the medication was making him ill or just not good.....

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:25 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

We started meds in first grade. He probably could have used it in Kindergarten.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:23:11 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi Lindsey,

May I ask you at what age did you place your child on medication? I am going back and forth with this issue. My son is 3 he will be 4 in December, at first I was totally against medication, now.....I am confused.

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of Lindsey senSent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:36 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: on the run, he's at it again

My child used to do this all of the time. We had to keep hands on him at all times because it would be so dangerous. Once he got loose and ran away at Six Flags, and they found him climbing up the side of the ferris wheel!! The best thing I can suggest is medication. I know it is controversial, but it really calmed him down and allowed him to focus more and follow directions. This was prescribed first by his pediatrician, and then by a psychiatrist who has followed him for years.

http://5kidswdisabilities.wordpress.com

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Three is VERY young to medicate! I think 4 is the youngest around here for stimulant meds. I think you should try to take away the nap and think of low stimulation activities for nap time, like watching a movie, but cut out TV movies for other times of the day so "down time" is special. He won't want to rest if he can watch tv anytime he wants.

Melatonin works wonders for getting them to sleep naturally. Start out with 1 mg. and go up from there IF he needs it with the max of 3 mg. total for a little guy.

Good luck!

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:50:25 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi ,

He has a regular pediatrician, a psychologist, which we have an appt to see at the end of the month. This is why I am really questioning meds because I was going to bring it up to her at this next appt. My son is very hyper at times.....he is now having sleep issues. Like if I give him a nap during the day, he doesn't want to go to sleep at night, so I am contemplating eliminating the nap all together, however, if he doesn't have his nap, he can get really cranky and it just makes everyone miserable! He receives speech therapy and OT in pre-school. I just want him to calm down a little bit and concentrate more, but then again, he's 3! So many decisions......

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:33 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Do you have a developmental pediatrician? A psychologist? I think that's probably a question for them. I do know that kids that are non-verbal still get meds. What symptoms are you wanting to medicate him for? Is he hyper? self-injurious? What is the puzzle you are trying to solve with him? Do you have him in speech therapy?

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:29:08 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi ,

My son is currently in Pre-school, I am wondering if that is too long, plus he is non-verbal so how would I know if the medication was making him ill or just not good.....

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:25 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

We started meds in first grade. He probably could have used it in Kindergarten.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:23:11 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi Lindsey,

May I ask you at what age did you place your child on medication? I am going back and forth with this issue. My son is 3 he will be 4 in December, at first I was totally against medication, now.....I am confused.

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of Lindsey senSent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:36 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: on the run, he's at it again

My child used to do this all of the time. We had to keep hands on him at all times because it would be so dangerous. Once he got loose and ran away at Six Flags, and they found him climbing up the side of the ferris wheel!! The best thing I can suggest is medication. I know it is controversial, but it really calmed him down and allowed him to focus more and follow directions. This was prescribed first by his pediatrician, and then by a psychiatrist who has followed him for years.

http://5kidswdisabilities.wordpress.com

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Thanks , I think I will start with eliminating this nap!! Where do I get Melatonin from?

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 12:10 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Three is VERY young to medicate! I think 4 is the youngest around here for stimulant meds. I think you should try to take away the nap and think of low stimulation activities for nap time, like watching a movie, but cut out TV movies for other times of the day so "down time" is special. He won't want to rest if he can watch tv anytime he wants.

Melatonin works wonders for getting them to sleep naturally. Start out with 1 mg. and go up from there IF he needs it with the max of 3 mg. total for a little guy.

Good luck!

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:50:25 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi ,

He has a regular pediatrician, a psychologist, which we have an appt to see at the end of the month. This is why I am really questioning meds because I was going to bring it up to her at this next appt. My son is very hyper at times.....he is now having sleep issues. Like if I give him a nap during the day, he doesn't want to go to sleep at night, so I am contemplating eliminating the nap all together, however, if he doesn't have his nap, he can get really cranky and it just makes everyone miserable! He receives speech therapy and OT in pre-school. I just want him to calm down a little bit and concentrate more, but then again, he's 3! So many decisions......

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:33 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Do you have a developmental pediatrician? A psychologist? I think that's probably a question for them. I do know that kids that are non-verbal still get meds. What symptoms are you wanting to medicate him for? Is he hyper? self-injurious? What is the puzzle you are trying to solve with him? Do you have him in speech therapy?

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:29:08 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi ,

My son is currently in Pre-school, I am wondering if that is too long, plus he is non-verbal so how would I know if the medication was making him ill or just not good.....

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:25 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

We started meds in first grade. He probably could have used it in Kindergarten.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:23:11 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi Lindsey,

May I ask you at what age did you place your child on medication? I am going back and forth with this issue. My son is 3 he will be 4 in December, at first I was totally against medication, now.....I am confused.

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of Lindsey senSent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:36 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: on the run, he's at it again

My child used to do this all of the time. We had to keep hands on him at all times because it would be so dangerous. Once he got loose and ran away at Six Flags, and they found him climbing up the side of the ferris wheel!! The best thing I can suggest is medication. I know it is controversial, but it really calmed him down and allowed him to focus more and follow directions. This was prescribed first by his pediatrician, and then by a psychiatrist who has followed him for years.

http://5kidswdisabilities.wordpress.com

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Thanks , I think I will start with eliminating this nap!! Where do I get Melatonin from?

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 12:10 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Three is VERY young to medicate! I think 4 is the youngest around here for stimulant meds. I think you should try to take away the nap and think of low stimulation activities for nap time, like watching a movie, but cut out TV movies for other times of the day so "down time" is special. He won't want to rest if he can watch tv anytime he wants.

Melatonin works wonders for getting them to sleep naturally. Start out with 1 mg. and go up from there IF he needs it with the max of 3 mg. total for a little guy.

Good luck!

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:50:25 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi ,

He has a regular pediatrician, a psychologist, which we have an appt to see at the end of the month. This is why I am really questioning meds because I was going to bring it up to her at this next appt. My son is very hyper at times.....he is now having sleep issues. Like if I give him a nap during the day, he doesn't want to go to sleep at night, so I am contemplating eliminating the nap all together, however, if he doesn't have his nap, he can get really cranky and it just makes everyone miserable! He receives speech therapy and OT in pre-school. I just want him to calm down a little bit and concentrate more, but then again, he's 3! So many decisions......

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:33 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Do you have a developmental pediatrician? A psychologist? I think that's probably a question for them. I do know that kids that are non-verbal still get meds. What symptoms are you wanting to medicate him for? Is he hyper? self-injurious? What is the puzzle you are trying to solve with him? Do you have him in speech therapy?

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:29:08 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi ,

My son is currently in Pre-school, I am wondering if that is too long, plus he is non-verbal so how would I know if the medication was making him ill or just not good.....

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:25 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

We started meds in first grade. He probably could have used it in Kindergarten.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:23:11 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi Lindsey,

May I ask you at what age did you place your child on medication? I am going back and forth with this issue. My son is 3 he will be 4 in December, at first I was totally against medication, now.....I am confused.

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of Lindsey senSent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:36 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: on the run, he's at it again

My child used to do this all of the time. We had to keep hands on him at all times because it would be so dangerous. Once he got loose and ran away at Six Flags, and they found him climbing up the side of the ferris wheel!! The best thing I can suggest is medication. I know it is controversial, but it really calmed him down and allowed him to focus more and follow directions. This was prescribed first by his pediatrician, and then by a psychiatrist who has followed him for years.

http://5kidswdisabilities.wordpress.com

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Hello Jasmine, well the sad truth of the matter is you will not know " if

the medication was making him ill or just not good... " Especially in a

child who cannot tell you anything about his symptoms. I would say when

you try whatever you choose to try, if you choose to try it, start in a

low dose at first and keep a journal of what you are trying to

extinguish, and any possible new symptoms that may erupt. Sometimes

those symptoms are worse than the ones you are trying to control. But if

all is good the doctor will no doubt increase the dose a bit to keep a

blood level consistent.

With my poor son Marty I did as the doctor told me at first, in our

case he was trying to extinguish seizures. He started the boy on

Valium and when it did not work he increased the dosage and caused him

to become addicted to it. When he was three years old he was on over 40

mg of Valium a day and had seizures every day. He was a zombie and never

stopped moving he was so agitated. It was a nightmare and I know people

think this not happen with doctors and patients today but I don't

believe that.

When I took my son off Valium very slowly, he went through withdrawal

like a full fledged dope addict on the streets! I called the doctor at

3:00 a.m. one morning and got in a fight with him and he hung up on me!

I would say do plenty of research about the drug you want to try and

then look out for symptoms and if you don't like them stop the

medication don't increase it.

I know I am rambling but the subject of meds to control these kids is

kind of a sore point with me, and I was never against something that

would have helped. The sad truth is though that nothing helped and a lot

of them added to the problem..which was BAD enough to begin with.

Just something to consider.

Carolyn ;o(

lin, Jasmine wrote:

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> My son is currently in Pre-school, I am wondering if that is too long,

> plus he is non-verbal so how would I know if the medication was making

> him ill or just not good.....

>

> Thanks

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> *From:* autism-aspergers

> [mailto:autism-aspergers ] *On Behalf Of * R. Tucker

> *Sent:* Monday, June 20, 2011 11:25 AM

> *To:* autism-aspergers

> *Subject:* Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

>

>

>

> We started meds in first grade. He probably could have used it in

> Kindergarten.

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> *From:* " lin, Jasmine "

> *To:* autism-aspergers

> *Sent:* Mon, June 20, 2011 11:23:11 AM

> *Subject:* RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

>

>

>

> Hi Lindsey,

>

> May I ask you at what age did you place your child on medication? I am

> going back and forth with this issue. My son is 3 he will be 4 in

> December, at first I was totally against medication, now.....I am

> confused.

>

> Thanks

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> *From:* autism-aspergers

> [mailto:autism-aspergers ] *On Behalf Of *Lindsey sen

> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 4:36 PM

> *To:* autism-aspergers

> *Subject:* Re: on the run, he's at it again

>

>

>

> My child used to do this all of the time. We had to keep hands on him

> at all times because it would be so dangerous. Once he got loose and

> ran away at Six Flags, and they found him climbing up the side of the

> ferris wheel!!

>

> The best thing I can suggest is medication. I know it is

> controversial, but it really calmed him down and allowed him to focus

> more and follow directions. This was prescribed first by his

> pediatrician, and then by a psychiatrist who has followed him for years.

>

> http://5kidswdisabilities.wordpress.com

> ===================================

>

> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Carolyn,

Thanks for the input. I know its a lot to consider when we are speaking about our children and grandchildren. I am going to speak to his psych doctor when we go and see what she thinks. I also believe 3 is a very young age to start medications especially if he is unable to tell me how they make him feel. I just feel bad when he is sooooo sleepy he cant hardly keep his eyes open, but so much brain activity, hand flapping, and sensory issues keep him from letting his eyes just close......

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of CarolynSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 12:26 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hello Jasmine, well the sad truth of the matter is you will not know "if the medication was making him ill or just not good..." Especially in a child who cannot tell you anything about his symptoms. I would say when you try whatever you choose to try, if you choose to try it, start in a low dose at first and keep a journal of what you are trying to extinguish, and any possible new symptoms that may erupt. Sometimes those symptoms are worse than the ones you are trying to control. But if all is good the doctor will no doubt increase the dose a bit to keep a blood level consistent.With my poor son Marty I did as the doctor told me at first, in our case he was trying to extinguish seizures. He started the boy on Valium and when it did not work he increased the dosage and caused him to become addicted to it. When he was three years old he was on over 40 mg of Valium a day and had seizures every day. He was a zombie and never stopped moving he was so agitated. It was a nightmare and I know people think this not happen with doctors and patients today but I don't believe that.When I took my son off Valium very slowly, he went through withdrawal like a full fledged dope addict on the streets! I called the doctor at 3:00 a.m. one morning and got in a fight with him and he hung up on me!I would say do plenty of research about the drug you want to try and then look out for symptoms and if you don't like them stop the medication don't increase it.I know I am rambling but the subject of meds to control these kids is kind of a sore point with me, and I was never against something that would have helped. The sad truth is though that nothing helped and a lot of them added to the problem..which was BAD enough to begin with.Just something to consider.Carolyn ;o(lin, Jasmine wrote:> >> Hi ,> > My son is currently in Pre-school, I am wondering if that is too long, > plus he is non-verbal so how would I know if the medication was making > him ill or just not good.....> > Thanks > ----------------------------------------------------------> *From:* autism-aspergers > [mailto:autism-aspergers ] *On Behalf Of * R. Tucker> *Sent:* Monday, June 20, 2011 11:25 AM> *To:* autism-aspergers > *Subject:* Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again>> >> We started meds in first grade. He probably could have used it in > Kindergarten. > > >>> ----------------------------------------------------------> *From:* "lin, Jasmine" > *To:* autism-aspergers > *Sent:* Mon, June 20, 2011 11:23:11 AM> *Subject:* RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again>> >> Hi Lindsey,> > May I ask you at what age did you place your child on medication? I am > going back and forth with this issue. My son is 3 he will be 4 in > December, at first I was totally against medication, now.....I am > confused.> > Thanks>> ----------------------------------------------------------> *From:* autism-aspergers > [mailto:autism-aspergers ] *On Behalf Of *Lindsey sen> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 4:36 PM> *To:* autism-aspergers > *Subject:* Re: on the run, he's at it again>> >> My child used to do this all of the time. We had to keep hands on him > at all times because it would be so dangerous. Once he got loose and > ran away at Six Flags, and they found him climbing up the side of the > ferris wheel!!>> The best thing I can suggest is medication. I know it is > controversial, but it really calmed him down and allowed him to focus > more and follow directions. This was prescribed first by his > pediatrician, and then by a psychiatrist who has followed him for years.>> http://5kidswdisabilities.wordpress.com> ===================================>> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail>> >>> >>

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Hi Carolyn,

Thanks for the input. I know its a lot to consider when we are speaking about our children and grandchildren. I am going to speak to his psych doctor when we go and see what she thinks. I also believe 3 is a very young age to start medications especially if he is unable to tell me how they make him feel. I just feel bad when he is sooooo sleepy he cant hardly keep his eyes open, but so much brain activity, hand flapping, and sensory issues keep him from letting his eyes just close......

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of CarolynSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 12:26 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hello Jasmine, well the sad truth of the matter is you will not know "if the medication was making him ill or just not good..." Especially in a child who cannot tell you anything about his symptoms. I would say when you try whatever you choose to try, if you choose to try it, start in a low dose at first and keep a journal of what you are trying to extinguish, and any possible new symptoms that may erupt. Sometimes those symptoms are worse than the ones you are trying to control. But if all is good the doctor will no doubt increase the dose a bit to keep a blood level consistent.With my poor son Marty I did as the doctor told me at first, in our case he was trying to extinguish seizures. He started the boy on Valium and when it did not work he increased the dosage and caused him to become addicted to it. When he was three years old he was on over 40 mg of Valium a day and had seizures every day. He was a zombie and never stopped moving he was so agitated. It was a nightmare and I know people think this not happen with doctors and patients today but I don't believe that.When I took my son off Valium very slowly, he went through withdrawal like a full fledged dope addict on the streets! I called the doctor at 3:00 a.m. one morning and got in a fight with him and he hung up on me!I would say do plenty of research about the drug you want to try and then look out for symptoms and if you don't like them stop the medication don't increase it.I know I am rambling but the subject of meds to control these kids is kind of a sore point with me, and I was never against something that would have helped. The sad truth is though that nothing helped and a lot of them added to the problem..which was BAD enough to begin with.Just something to consider.Carolyn ;o(lin, Jasmine wrote:> >> Hi ,> > My son is currently in Pre-school, I am wondering if that is too long, > plus he is non-verbal so how would I know if the medication was making > him ill or just not good.....> > Thanks > ----------------------------------------------------------> *From:* autism-aspergers > [mailto:autism-aspergers ] *On Behalf Of * R. Tucker> *Sent:* Monday, June 20, 2011 11:25 AM> *To:* autism-aspergers > *Subject:* Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again>> >> We started meds in first grade. He probably could have used it in > Kindergarten. > > >>> ----------------------------------------------------------> *From:* "lin, Jasmine" > *To:* autism-aspergers > *Sent:* Mon, June 20, 2011 11:23:11 AM> *Subject:* RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again>> >> Hi Lindsey,> > May I ask you at what age did you place your child on medication? I am > going back and forth with this issue. My son is 3 he will be 4 in > December, at first I was totally against medication, now.....I am > confused.> > Thanks>> ----------------------------------------------------------> *From:* autism-aspergers > [mailto:autism-aspergers ] *On Behalf Of *Lindsey sen> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 4:36 PM> *To:* autism-aspergers > *Subject:* Re: on the run, he's at it again>> >> My child used to do this all of the time. We had to keep hands on him > at all times because it would be so dangerous. Once he got loose and > ran away at Six Flags, and they found him climbing up the side of the > ferris wheel!!>> The best thing I can suggest is medication. I know it is > controversial, but it really calmed him down and allowed him to focus > more and follow directions. This was prescribed first by his > pediatrician, and then by a psychiatrist who has followed him for years.>> http://5kidswdisabilities.wordpress.com> ===================================>> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail>> >>> >>

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To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 12:17:59 PMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Thanks , I think I will start with eliminating this nap!! Where do I get Melatonin from?

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 12:10 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Three is VERY young to medicate! I think 4 is the youngest around here for stimulant meds. I think you should try to take away the nap and think of low stimulation activities for nap time, like watching a movie, but cut out TV movies for other times of the day so "down time" is special. He won't want to rest if he can watch tv anytime he wants.

Melatonin works wonders for getting them to sleep naturally. Start out with 1 mg. and go up from there IF he needs it with the max of 3 mg. total for a little guy.

Good luck!

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:50:25 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi ,

He has a regular pediatrician, a psychologist, which we have an appt to see at the end of the month. This is why I am really questioning meds because I was going to bring it up to her at this next appt. My son is very hyper at times.....he is now having sleep issues. Like if I give him a nap during the day, he doesn't want to go to sleep at night, so I am contemplating eliminating the nap all together, however, if he doesn't have his nap, he can get really cranky and it just makes everyone miserable! He receives speech therapy and OT in pre-school. I just want him to calm down a little bit and concentrate more, but then again, he's 3! So many decisions......

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:33 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Do you have a developmental pediatrician? A psychologist? I think that's probably a question for them. I do know that kids that are non-verbal still get meds. What symptoms are you wanting to medicate him for? Is he hyper? self-injurious? What is the puzzle you are trying to solve with him? Do you have him in speech therapy?

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:29:08 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi ,

My son is currently in Pre-school, I am wondering if that is too long, plus he is non-verbal so how would I know if the medication was making him ill or just not good.....

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:25 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

We started meds in first grade. He probably could have used it in Kindergarten.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:23:11 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi Lindsey,

May I ask you at what age did you place your child on medication? I am going back and forth with this issue. My son is 3 he will be 4 in December, at first I was totally against medication, now.....I am confused.

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of Lindsey senSent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:36 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: on the run, he's at it again

My child used to do this all of the time. We had to keep hands on him at all times because it would be so dangerous. Once he got loose and ran away at Six Flags, and they found him climbing up the side of the ferris wheel!! The best thing I can suggest is medication. I know it is controversial, but it really calmed him down and allowed him to focus more and follow directions. This was prescribed first by his pediatrician, and then by a psychiatrist who has followed him for years.

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To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 12:17:59 PMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Thanks , I think I will start with eliminating this nap!! Where do I get Melatonin from?

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 12:10 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Three is VERY young to medicate! I think 4 is the youngest around here for stimulant meds. I think you should try to take away the nap and think of low stimulation activities for nap time, like watching a movie, but cut out TV movies for other times of the day so "down time" is special. He won't want to rest if he can watch tv anytime he wants.

Melatonin works wonders for getting them to sleep naturally. Start out with 1 mg. and go up from there IF he needs it with the max of 3 mg. total for a little guy.

Good luck!

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:50:25 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi ,

He has a regular pediatrician, a psychologist, which we have an appt to see at the end of the month. This is why I am really questioning meds because I was going to bring it up to her at this next appt. My son is very hyper at times.....he is now having sleep issues. Like if I give him a nap during the day, he doesn't want to go to sleep at night, so I am contemplating eliminating the nap all together, however, if he doesn't have his nap, he can get really cranky and it just makes everyone miserable! He receives speech therapy and OT in pre-school. I just want him to calm down a little bit and concentrate more, but then again, he's 3! So many decisions......

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:33 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Do you have a developmental pediatrician? A psychologist? I think that's probably a question for them. I do know that kids that are non-verbal still get meds. What symptoms are you wanting to medicate him for? Is he hyper? self-injurious? What is the puzzle you are trying to solve with him? Do you have him in speech therapy?

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:29:08 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi ,

My son is currently in Pre-school, I am wondering if that is too long, plus he is non-verbal so how would I know if the medication was making him ill or just not good.....

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of R. TuckerSent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:25 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again

We started meds in first grade. He probably could have used it in Kindergarten.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:23:11 AMSubject: RE: Re: on the run, he's at it again

Hi Lindsey,

May I ask you at what age did you place your child on medication? I am going back and forth with this issue. My son is 3 he will be 4 in December, at first I was totally against medication, now.....I am confused.

Thanks

From: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of Lindsey senSent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:36 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: on the run, he's at it again

My child used to do this all of the time. We had to keep hands on him at all times because it would be so dangerous. Once he got loose and ran away at Six Flags, and they found him climbing up the side of the ferris wheel!! The best thing I can suggest is medication. I know it is controversial, but it really calmed him down and allowed him to focus more and follow directions. This was prescribed first by his pediatrician, and then by a psychiatrist who has followed him for years.

http://5kidswdisabilities.wordpress.com

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My son was 3. He is 8 now and takes about 4 differant kinds and is still not 100 percent. What society claims to be normal. But to us he is managable and better. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: autism-aspergers Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:59:13 -0400To: <autism-aspergers >ReplyTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Re: on the run, he's at it again My son was started on medication for ADHD when he was 2.  He was so active he was climbing out of his crib before he could walk, and he would never sleep.  He would bang his head on the floor and run everywhere, screaming if we tried to restrain him.  We made the house child proof and never took him anywhere, and with the medication life was almost normal for a while, but he still couldn't go out in public without a meltdown.  We didn't really get an autism diagnosis until he was about 6...he was just diagnosed with severe sensory integration deficit.  His doctor put him on Prozac and most of his sensory issues, (related to obsessive compulsive disorder, I guess,) went away.  I was raised not to believe in medication and never even took a Tylenol or aspirin, but I am thankful for the medication my son takes.  Life would be unlivable, (or at least extremely harried and unhappy) without it. Hi Lindsey,  May I ask you at what age did you place your child on medication? I am going back and forth with this issue. My son is 3 he will be 4 in December, at first I was totally against medication, now.....I am confused. ThanksFrom: autism-aspergers [mailto:autism-aspergers ] On Behalf Of Lindsey senSent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:36 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: on the run, he's at it again  My child used to do this all of the time.  We had to keep hands on him at all times because it would be so dangerous.  Once he got loose and ran away at Six Flags, and they found him climbing up the side of the ferris wheel!!The best thing I can suggest is medication.  I know it is controversial, but it really calmed him down and allowed him to focus more and follow directions.  This was prescribed first by his pediatrician, and then by a psychiatrist who has followed him for years.http://5kidswdisabilities.wordpress.com===================================

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