Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 Most people do not consume enough calcium nor magnesium. Calcium requires the presence of fats to help get it into systemic circulation. It must first become a disassociated cation before it can cross over. It matters very little the anion to which it is was complexed when consumed. Some forms get into the system a little faster than others, that is all. Past research shows that the tonage at which the tablet is compressed makes far more difference than the calcium compound chosen. If pressed too hard they can easily pass through the entire alimentary tract. Of course don't discount the valuable placebo effect of Barefoot's marketing narrative about the Okinawans. Skye Chambers on the cures for cancer list posted the following which I thought was interesting. ~~~ Coral Calcium Scam - Healthwatcher.net On November 30, 1998 I learned that snake-oil salesman and author Barefoot was coming to the Kitchener Public Library to give a noon time talk about Coral Calcium. [snipped for bandwidth] Then he started in with the main theme of the day, the Okinawan miracle of miracles, there are 3 million people who live on this island and there is no cancer. Hey folks, its the Shangri-la archipelago. According to Barefoot there are 155 diseases caused by low calcium levels in the body. Why if a baby had to go off milk, they would have to eat 22 lbs. of spinach, or 15 lbs. of broccoli to make up the difference. " We need another source " , he exclaimed. We could drink milk, it can lower hard disease by 1000% he says. We could do the same for breast cancer. Did you know that according to this HTN guru that " vegetarians die 9 years earlier than meat eaters. " What happened to all those Seventh Day Adventist studies from Loma that said just the opposite? Finally, the reason we all came, the story about the Coral Calcium from Okinawa.There were signs everywhere, books on the table two feet high, newspapers with pictures of chiropractors, satisfied customers, and testimonies from all. Dr. Dubner's story about a female patient of his who had tried every modality known to mankind to treat a swollen knee that had swollen to " twice its normal size " , and was in a wheelchair. She was finally given one glass of the " coral calcium " and " within 40 minutes she felt energy, strength, and stability she hadn't felt in months. She was able to stand up and take several steps with much less pain " Within 24 hours her atrophied leg was recovering its muscle mass. Eugene Jolliff balanced his diabetes Wanda who cured her psoriasis Why are the Japanese who live on Okinawa so healthy? According to HTN's front-man Barefoot, it's because the coral reef is disintigrating, and there is coral sand everywhere, even in the air. All they have to do is " breathe it in " . He says that the average Okinawan ingests 12,000 mg. of calcium a day. " There are no doctors, no disease, and they live to 149, " he rants. Why, 540 years ago chickens that lived near the ocean waves, and obviously must have inhaled the calcium-laden air, gave the best eggs. The people ate the eggs. For two hundred years the coral calcium was hauled off to Europe, principally Scandinavia, where they soaked up the stuff. I guess they don't have oysters, or clams, or limestone or maybe even intelligent chickens up there. ------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------- The Truth About Okinawan Drinking Water Subject: Calcium from Okinawa Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 From: Ozz <ozz@...> tpolevoy@... I read with interest your letter to Okinawa Times. I lived in Okinawa for 13 years and can tell you that Okinawans do not mine coral reefs for calcium. Their major source of calcium is fish. The well water which is probably high in mineral deposits as Okinawa is primarily a limestone island, is undrinkable due to pollution. Before 1960 or so a large percentage of the rural population obtained its drinking water from wells, springs or streams, and I imagine there was a higher content of minerals in the water. Okinawa has the distinction of the highest ratio seniors over the age of 100 in comparison to the general population of any prefecture in Japan. I don't think there are any quite a 150 years old, but Okinawa has boasted the oldest people in the world for some time. The Okinawans who live that long all share several things in common: 1. High fiber, low fat diet. Lots of rice, " yama-imo " mountain potato, other root vegetables, " miso " made from soy beans and barley and other grain. The primary meat intake was fish. Pork and goat meat were considered delicacies and only consumed on special occassions. 2. Exercise. Rural Okinawans worked hard for a living. Cultivation was by hand. They did not have many work animals. Fishermen swam and dove without benefit of equipment. Women had to haul water etc. etc. If they went anywhere they walked. 3. Attitude. Okinawans have the attitude that, generally speaking, close enough is good enough, if it doesn't get done today there is always tomorrow. They are very friendly and magnanomous, rarely getting upset, and go with the flow. I have visited 7 or 8 countries and Okinawans are the most easy-going I have encountered, by a long shot. These are just general observations that I have made while living there. Japan has one of the lowest cancer rates for a first world country, but with the change in diet, lots of Mcs, etc. that the younger generation is accustomed to the cancer rate has been going up. Japanese women who relocate to the US and change diets, breast cancer rates are the same as for US women within a couple of decades. Women who remain in Japan and keep a traditional diet, have a much lower breast cancer rate. Anyway I digress. Bottom line, the folks who are selling this calcium from the corral reefs are full of it. That source of calcium is no different from any other source and will not make you live longer. If you want to live longer, move to rural Okinawa, change your attitude and diet and hope for the best. Hope I answered your question and didn't ramble too much. Ozz ------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------- Odd balls, goof balls, and calcium balls - it's all just shattered dreams The Wolfe Clinic - Nova Scotia The Wolfe Clinic - Nova Scotia homepage - Self proclaimed doctor of acupuncture Darrell Wolfe, the publisher of " Reclaim your inner terrain " , holds down the front lines in his search for invisible parasites and an unbalanced pH. He wants you to believe that because the brown spots on a banana indicate mold, that you should go out and buy Coral Calcium and a few dozen other potions. Here are a few comments from his tape and his pamphlet Our health system is structured for the benefits of the few, not the many ....germs do not cause disease pH balancing is the greatest weapon for the health of mankind There is only one sickness, one disease, and one cause Life and death are in the blood How are you inner streams? Cancer is a four letter word and that word is acid ....anything acidic is lacking in oxygen Auto Warburg received the Nobel prize for proving that a lack of oxygen causes cancer and with further studies with Dr. Reich, they proved that it was actually a lack of nutritional calcium. (He can't even spell Otto right, so why should we trust his scientific knowledge? ....if you've got the right philosophy and you've got the right products then you are going to get results Once you start taking disease and putting them into a hundred different slots, that's when all of the confusion begins Look, if you don't want to take supplement, you haven't got a chance When we're stressed, we release hormones. Their adrenals are dumping out hormones and....this causes acidosis, it cuts down their oxygen supply to the brain and nervous system, eating up calcium. (I thought most of the calcium was either in the bones or bound to protein?) Prices Calcium - Dr. Don Nakatsuchi - Texas optometrist and MLM guru Dr. Nakatsuchi's Coral Calcium homepage Dr. Nakatsuchi's Totalmarketing operations Dr. Nakatsuchi's Coral Calcium more information Health - Boosters - Canada's own Homepage - Direct Nutrition Direct Nutrition Main The wrinkle patch -REALLY - The Wrinkle patch - yeah right! Marine Bio Japan Marine Bio Japan - homepage CoralTM - yes folks someone actually trademarked the name Coral. Coral grains are grains of the skeletal structure of reef-building coral that has become defunct. Moreover, the method by which they are obtained does not destroy living coral reefs or in any way damage the environment. ------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------- More MLM companies that sell or promote Coral Calcium products that some claim will change the pH of your blood, prolong life, and may prevent cancer - all while trying to make you think you can get rich quick The history of Coral Calcium - according to them Total Health Expo in Toronto homepage - look for books by Dr. Carl J. Reich and R. Barefoot Coral Waters - Canadian link FAQ about Coral Calcium from colloidal-min.com Send for Barefoot's book The Millenium Team - We find that there are two types of people in the world, doers and watchers. If you are a doer, are interested in health, wealth, and time freedom, then go to The Millennium Team page Kalaya Marketing Coral Waters - Coral Calcium Benchmark U.S.A. Coral Calcium from Hawaii Deja News and e-mails that prove that to Coral Calcium fanciers - the world is still flat Lenn Sander - The world reknown " Sango King " spills his guts out over coral in 17 alt. news groups and other kinky places. A great piece of work, I'd say - A singularly brilliant response to Lenn Sander by Landis of the alt.support.chronic-pain group. ------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------- Medline and Medical links Colloidal Mineral Supplements: Unnecessary and Potentially Hazardous - Pontolillo D. Wallach, " The Mineral Doctor " - The Skeptics Dictionary Okinawan health stories debunked: Barefoot's claims that Okinawans live long because they are flooded with corral calcium in their food and in the air. FDA Calcium recommedations Mayo Clinic Calcium recommendations Prevention and management of osteoporosis: Consensus statements from the Scientific Advisory Board of the Osteoporosis Society of Canada - Calcium nutrition and osteoporosis Tim M. Murray, MD, FRCPC Canadian Medical Association Journal 1996; 155 (suppl): 935-939 SALIVA AS AN ANALYTICAL TOOL IN TOXICOLOGY - What can you see from analyzing saliva? It appears that Dr. Carl J. Reich never lived long enough to know that saliva is a crystal ball into all sorts of useful diagnostic areas of medicine. But, checking the pH of it is never mentioned at all in this over 100k file from the Utrecht Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences, in Holland. dale's Medical Nutrition Resources - Pharma Nord Research links on Calcium - pay attention to the absorption and cancer studies. It may take a while to download as some of the files are over 130k, but it will be worth it. I think that Mr. Barefoot's contention that we should all pig out on bacon, butter, eggs and milk products is not the best idea. Cancer rates in vegetarians if far lower than meat eaters. Calculate your calcium needs - Kline Beecham - Use the " Calcium Calculator " to estimate your current daily calcium intake,and learn about sources of calcium to help you achieve your recommended daily intake. (Hey, I entered the word " coral " into the database and it didn't register....how strange, eh?) Quack science and scientists often associated with Carl Reich, or his successors Oxylist Re: theory of cancer cause - links about Otto Warburg and Carl Reich. Only one of them won fought for the Kaiser, worked in Nazi Germany, and won two Nobel Prizes. What exactly Dr. Reich did is not very clear, even from their own publications. Dr. Otto Warburg: From the book The Warburgs: The Twentieth-Century Odyssey of a Remarkable Jewish Family, by Ron Chernow. New York: Random House, 1993. Warburg was a doctor and winner of 2 Nobel prizes. The first was in 1931 for physiology and medicine. In spite of his Jewish ancestry and outspoken hostility to the Hitler regime, he was permitted to continue his work at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Berlin. Because of his Jewish ancestry, in 1941 he briefly lost his post at the Institute, " but a few weeks later received a personal order from Hitler's Chancellery to resume work on his cancer research. " Otto Warburg's decision to collaborate with the regime, writes Chernow, " incensed colleagues outside Germany. " The scientist " justified his decision to stay in Nazi Germany by claiming that he was performing extremely important cancer research that would save lives and that he couldn't transfer his research operation abroad. " Ripples From O.C. Healer's Case Spreading - the amazing world of Salvatore D'Onofrio According to D'Onofrio, inserting ozone through tubes in the vagina is a powerful, immediate way to activate the immune system. Sound almost as crazy as Dr. Carl Reich's theories, but much more kinky. Copy of Dr. Carl Reich's license revocation form in California DOCBOARD - Search many U.S. States for you favourite quack doctor - it's too bad that Canada has nothing to offer the public s yet. Quotes and anecdotes carved in stone The Car Talk guys from Boston's own NPR station weekly quiz on Hunzas: They should live so long, eh? Calcium rocks and organic watering holes around the world Doc's Mineral Rocks with FULVIC acid - " nature intended us to get most of our minerals in a plant form " " most minerals in most supplements are not chelated or citrated and hence are often found in a more rudimentary or less absorable form " " UNBIASED " report on Colloidal minerals - that's an oxymoronic term if ever I heard one - " Break a leg " Minerals, Minerals, Minerals In the past few years there has been a massive marketing blitz concerning minerals. This blitz has been both good and bad. On a positive note, it has served to help educate people concerning their need for minerals. But, at the same time, these same people have become extremely confused about what form of mineral to take. (In other words, " Can you have your rocks and eat it, too? " ) Mendocino Water - California - testimonials from one medical doctor says: " The form of calcium in Mendocino Sparkling Mineral Water (calcium carbonate) is more readily absorbed by the intestine than is calcium phosphate (as in milk) or calcium oxalate (as in green, leafy vegetables). " Professor Floyd C. Rector, M.D., Chairman University of California Medical Center, San Francisco Reef sites Mother on the destruction of the coral reefs - Coral mining: People excavate coral reefs for their limestone and sand, for use in building materials, resort hotel beaches, tourist souvenirs, even snake-oil medicines: A Swedish company, ssons Preventive Medical Group, claims its Alka-Mine Coral Calcium will " naturally detox the body by neutralizing the acidity with which we are all...too apt to pollute our systems. " Sweden, of course, has no coral reefs; the product's mineral-rich coral sand is mined off Okinawa. Coral Calcium scams destroy Okinawan reefs - " The Secret to Longer Life Now Revealed! " so says the latest bogus health claim. This industry is mining coral off of Okinawa to sell as a mineral supplement to cure all kinds of ailments, from arthritis to cancer. Of course, there is no scientific or medical evidence to substantiate their claims the mining destroys the reef ecosystem. Drinking Perrier water is a safer bet for those seeking minerals. Reef Relief links - lots of great links about coral reefs around the world NGO links about coral reefs- What is a reef? - Alarming Decline of Coral Reefs Worldwide - by Emil Venere - Whatever the causes, the potential ecological and economic consequences are ominous. Theories blame pollution, oil spills and sedimentation caused by construction and waste discharge. " CORAL REEFS IN OKINAWA, JAPAN - Kiyoshi Yamazato Meio University Okinawa, Japan - Coral reefs in the islands of Okinawa were devastated by Acanthaster planci, the coral eating crown-of-thorns starfish during the period 1974 to 1977. Since then, corals have recovered in some areas, but they are now under attack by Acanthaster once again. As a consequence, coral coverage remains at low levels. (So why are they mining it?) Yoshimine Zenji: A Life Dedicated to the Reefs - By Maggie Suzuki - The movement spearheaded by Yoshimine-san to review public works in Okinawa, most specifically agricultural improvement projects which are causing coral-killing soil erosion, has made little progress against the massive inertia of established practice. Agricultural improvement projects in Okinawa were causing problems due to red silt runoff pollution, but the Ministry has never, even up to the present, acknowledged the existence of the red silt runoff problem or their responsibility in causing it.(What is in the silt runoff, and are the coral calcium products derived from those very areas.) [ ] Coral Calcium > Everyone is entitled to an opinion here. > My opinion is that Coral Calcium is all hype. I was disappointed when i purchased a bottle of it. I believe it to be a fraud. Harold > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2002 Report Share Posted September 30, 2002 In 1932 Otto Warburg won the Nobel Prize in Medicine for his discovery that cancer was anaerobic: cancer occurs in the absence of free oxygen. As innocuous as this discovery might seem, it is actually a startling and significant finding worthy of a Nobel Prize. What it basically means is that cancer is caused by a lack of free oxygen in the body and therefore, whatever causes this to occur is the cause of all cancers. In chemistry, alkali solutions (pH over 7.0) tend to absorb oxygen, while acids (pH under 7.0) tend to expel oxygen. For example, a mild alkali can absorb over 100 times as much oxygen as a mild acid. Therefore, when the body becomes acidic by dropping below pH 7.0 (note: all body fluids, except for stomach and urine, are supposed to be mildly alkaline at pH 7.4), oxygen is driven out of the body thereby, according to Nobel Prize winner Otto Warburg, inducing cancer. Stomach fluids must remain acidic to digest food and urine must remain acidic to remove wastes from the body. Blood is the exception. Blood must always remain at an alkaline pH 7.4 so that it can retain its oxygen. When adequate mineral consumption is in the diet, the blood is supplied the crucial minerals required to maintain an alkaline pH of 7.4. However when insufficient mineral consumption is in the diet, the body is forced to rob (other body fluids) to pay (the blood). In doing so, it removes crucial minerals, such as calcium, from the saliva, spinal fluids, kidneys, liver, etc., in order to maintain the blood at pH 7.4. This causes the de-mineralized fluids and organs to become acidic and therefore anaerobic, thus inducing not only cancer, but a host of other degenerative diseases, such as heart disease, diabetes, arthritis, lupus, etc.. Everyone knows that the human body is made up of 78% water by weight, and that water is hydrogen and oxygen gases. When nitrogen gas and carbon in the form of carbon dioxide and methane gases are added, the total gas in the body by weight becomes over 95%. Almost half of the remaining 5% that makes up the human body and controls all biological functions is the mineral calcium. No other mineral is capable of performing as many biological functions as is calcium. Calcium is involved in almost every biological function. This amazing mineral provides the electrical energy for the heart to beat and for all muscle movement. It is the calcium ion that is responsible for feeding every cell. It does this by latching on to seven nutrient molecules and one water molecule and pulls them through the nutrient channel. It then detaches its load and returns to repeat the process. Another important biological job for calcium is DNA replication, which is crucial for maintaining youth and a healthy body. DNA replication is the basis for all body repair and can only occur on a substrate of calcium. Thus, low calcium means low body repair and premature aging. As important as all these and hundreds of other biological functions of calcium are to human health, none is more important than the job of pH control. Calcium to acid, is like water to a fire. Calcium quickly destroys oxygen robbing acid in the body fluids. Thus, the more calcium, the more oxygen, and therefore, the less cancer and other degenerative disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 Group, Someone recently inquired about coral calcium. I just received my Jan newsletter from Health and Healing by Dr. n Whitaker. To make it short, he says: " Bogus health claims aside, coral is not even a quality source of calcium. Coral has notoriously high concentrations of aluminum, lead, and other heavy metals, which means some coral calcium products may actually be harmful to your health. My advice is to save your money and stick with safer(and less expensive) forms of calcium such as citrate, carbonate, ascorbate, and aspartate. " Hope this helps. Carol/Piney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2003 Report Share Posted April 4, 2003 Have heard so much about coral calcium being the most easily absorbed in addition to have so many other minerals in it. Does anyone have any info about which companies would be the best product and has any testing been done to rule out the possibility of it having mercury, etc. in it. I have contacted several companies and not received one reply about this issue. Is this product too good to be true. Thansk. N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2003 Report Share Posted April 4, 2003 Hi , I take Bob Barefoots coral calcium formula. I guess there are two types of coral calcium one is marine grade which is the best and the other is fossilized. The fossilized calcium is taken from the sand which supposedly has been stripped of alot of the natural nutrients from the sea. I have been taking Coral calcium for some time now, I also give it to my grand dtr who is dairy free. I have personally e- mailed Bob Barefoot and asked him about vaccines. He wrote back that he has no problem with them. I did not ask him about mercury in the calcium. That is a great question. You can e-mail him at www.cureamerica.net. This is his personal web page. I was shocked when he actually wrote me back personally. I would be really interested in hearing whatt he has to say. Peggy > Have heard so much about coral calcium being the most easily absorbed in > addition to have so many other minerals in it. Does anyone have any info > about which companies would be the best product and has any testing been done > to rule out the possibility of it having mercury, etc. in it. I have > contacted several companies and not received one reply about this issue. Is > this product too good to be true. Thansk. N. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2003 Report Share Posted June 12, 2003 Hi Mark, I take Coral Calcium Daily Bob Barefoots forumla. Do you know if that one has lead in it as well. I posted a question on this group a few days ago asking if anyone knew if it had mercury in it. The reason I asked is because it is supposedly harvested from coral. Where did you get this information. I do have to admit that since I started taking it I feel alot better. The reason I took the coral calcium is because all the other's I have taken really give me a bad stomach ache. You might be interested in knowing that I e-mailed Bob Barefoot and asked him what he thought of all the vaccines that are being given to children and the correlation between them and autism. He answered that all his grandchildren have been vaccinated and have no problems. I saved his e-mail if anyone is interested in reading it. Peggy --- In , " Mark Schauss " <schauss@c...> wrote: > For those of you taking coral calcium " supreme " you should know that > consumerlab.com has found lead in their product. Aside from the fact > that the claims made for the product were outrageous, shame on them for > selling a product with a neurotoxin in it. A claim of " we didnt know " > would be unacceptable too as they should have tested the product before > selling it. > > in health, > Mark Schauss > > _____ > > > <http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?RunPromo & El=hotbar% 5feleme > nt%3bst%3b & SG= & RAND=11324> Upgrade Your Email - Click here! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2003 Report Share Posted June 12, 2003 It is Barefoot's formula they tested from my understanding. You can see the information at www.consumerlab.com. [ ] Re: Coral Calcium Hi Mark, I take Coral Calcium Daily Bob Barefoots forumla. Do you know if that one has lead in it as well. I posted a question on this group a few days ago asking if anyone knew if it had mercury in it. The reason I asked is because it is supposedly harvested from coral. Where did you get this information. I do have to admit that since I started taking it I feel alot better. The reason I took the coral calcium is because all the other's I have taken really give me a bad stomach ache. You might be interested in knowing that I e-mailed Bob Barefoot and asked him what he thought of all the vaccines that are being given to children and the correlation between them and autism. He answered that all his grandchildren have been vaccinated and have no problems. I saved his e-mail if anyone is interested in reading it. Peggy --- In , " Mark Schauss " <schauss@c...> wrote: > For those of you taking coral calcium " supreme " you should know that > consumerlab.com has found lead in their product. Aside from the fact > that the claims made for the product were outrageous, shame on them for > selling a product with a neurotoxin in it. A claim of " we didnt know " > would be unacceptable too as they should have tested the product before > selling it. > > in health, > Mark Schauss > > _____ > > > <http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?RunPromo & El=hotbar% 5feleme > nt%3bst%3b & SG= & RAND=11324> Upgrade Your Email - Click here! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2003 Report Share Posted June 12, 2003 Coral Calcium is a scam. The calcium in coral is calcium carbonate the same as in most calcium suppliments. Here are a few articles to look at before spending 10 to 20 times as much as you should for a calcium suppliment. I would not take any coral calcuim if it was the only calcium supplement available. These two articles are from Time magazine and The Berkly Wellness Letter. I have read dozens of simular articles and have several others saved. http://www.time.com/time/columnist/printout/0,8816,433084,00.html http://www.berkeleywellness.com/html/ds/dsCoralCalcium.php Here are the specks for Barefoots products http://www.discount-vitamins-herbs.net/coral-calcium-COA.htm You will see that not only does it have mercury but lead, alluminum, thaluim, iodine and other toxic metals and toxins. > > For those of you taking coral calcium " supreme " you should know that > > consumerlab.com has found lead in their product. Aside from the fact > > that the claims made for the product were outrageous, shame on them > for > > selling a product with a neurotoxin in it. A claim of " we didnt > know " > > would be unacceptable too as they should have tested the product > before > > selling it. > > > > in health, > > Mark Schauss > > > > _____ > > > > > > <http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?RunPromo & El=hotbar% > 5feleme > > nt%3bst%3b & SG= & RAND=11324> Upgrade Your Email - Click here! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 its bascially calcium carbonate and some inorganic magnesium. > Does anyone know if coral calcium is a good source of calcium for our kids? I had picked up one that also had VitaminD and magnesium for my daughter who is 15, but at the bottom of the bottle it said " not for use in children under 18 " . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2004 Report Share Posted March 17, 2004 >>> Does anyone know if coral calcium is a good source of calcium for our kids? I don't think so...basically calcium carbonate which is one of the least absorbable forms. Also, there is the contaminant issue (maybe lead or other metals/minerals in it). I know it is 'trendy' at the moment but would use some soluble form for health purposes. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2004 Report Share Posted March 17, 2004 This really dissapoints me as I thought coral calcium wasn't calcium carbonate. I do not like that form of calcium. Oh well, guess that'll be another supplement I toss. Re: coral calcium > > > its bascially calcium carbonate and some inorganic magnesium. > > > > > > Does anyone know if coral calcium is a good source of calcium for > our kids? I had picked up one that also had VitaminD and magnesium > for my daughter who is 15, but at the bottom of the bottle it > said " not for use in children under 18 " . > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2004 Report Share Posted March 17, 2004 I'm so glad I posted here. Thanks for this info. I have steered clear of calcium carbonate for many years, especially lead containing ones. It make me angry that it doesn't specify the type of calcium, just says calcium from 1,000 mg of coral calcium. Re: coral calcium > >>> Does anyone know if coral calcium is a good source of calcium for > our kids? > > I don't think so...basically calcium carbonate which is one of the > least absorbable forms. Also, there is the contaminant issue (maybe > lead or other metals/minerals in it). I know it is 'trendy' at the > moment but would use some soluble form for health purposes. > > . > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2004 Report Share Posted March 17, 2004 Then what type of calcium is best? What should I be using? > > > Does anyone know if coral calcium is a good source of calcium for > > our kids? I had picked up one that also had VitaminD and magnesium > > for my daughter who is 15, but at the bottom of the bottle it > > said " not for use in children under 18 " . > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2004 Report Share Posted March 17, 2004 >>> Then what type of calcium is best? What should I be using? Calcium oxide and carbonate are the least absorbable. Most other types are soluble and more absorbably. Chelate or ionic forms are good. Citrate and malate are good. Others include aspartate, lactate, ascorbate. I noticed on a number of the calcium coral sites that they weren't really promoting it as a way to increase calcium in your diet. They were saying it will neutralize acid (which any form of calcium should do because elemental calcium is divalent positive). This helps to 'alkalinize' your body so you will live longer. Calcium carbonate is a main ingredient in tums so it is a also for neutralizing acid. But again, other forms should do that too. I am not nearly as interested in living longer as I am in living better while I am around. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Eve, I use the Nikken water products also. The optimizer provides coral calcium the natural way, the way that the natives obtained their coral calcium, that enables them to live longer lives. You get coral calcium through the water, and we know it is absorbed that way, as opposed to decreased absorption through pills. The optimizer also restructures the water into hexagonal water, and it super oxygenates and alkalizes the water. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Barb, I would be interested in getting this " optimizer " . Dolores -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > Eve, I use the Nikken water products also. The optimizer provides coral > calcium the natural way, the way that the natives obtained their coral calcium, > that enables them to live longer lives. You get coral calcium through the > water, and we know it is absorbed that way, as opposed to decreased absorption > through pills. The optimizer also restructures the water into hexagonal > water, and it super oxygenates and alkalizes the water. > > Barb > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Barb, do you have documentation other than what the manufacturer says on the Nikken water product? My girlfriend is native Okinawan and she doesn't support the view that Okinawans are long livers because of calcium. At 71 she is in very good health, but she eats lots of vegetables and does a lot of walking. Okinawans had a very sparse diet during the war, often raiding garbage cans of American soldiers' mess halls for meat. All studies I've read say calcium carbonate is poorly absorbed, like Tums. Bob Barefoot had many thousands of bottles of Coral Calcium confiscated because of unsubstantiated claims. Devices that claim to change the nature of water by electricity or other means are totally phony to the best of my knowledge. I currently believe that goiing to a more alkaline diet whether by food or pills may be beneficial healthwise to some people. That means no pop, a little protein and a host of " no-no " s. I supplement with magnesium, known to be very deficient in the American diet. As I recall, it virutally guarantees no kidney stones and is supportive of better bone density. It took away my severe back pain many years ago. However, as an aid in combating cancer, it shares with calcium that there is no credible evidence. And both can really screw up your digestion if taken in the wrong form at the wrong time, Loren Parks parksl@... [ ] Re:coral calcium > > > > Eve, I use the Nikken water products also. The optimizer provides coral > calcium the natural way, the way that the natives obtained their coral > calcium, > that enables them to live longer lives. You get coral calcium through > the > water, and we know it is absorbed that way, as opposed to decreased > absorption > through pills. The optimizer also restructures the water into hexagonal > water, and it super oxygenates and alkalizes the water. > > Barb > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 Kathy, Yes, I have read the " hype " lit as well and it's good for one to look at both sides to evaluate it for ourselves. I just know I used the power form of CC and my BMD's improved. While taking KAL brand of calcium/magnesium supplements I had 3 BMD's over 3 yrs showing bone loss. Then I started with the Ancient Wisdom CC powder and within 6 mos. my BMD showed improvement. As for " Bone building formulas " that you mention, I recall some medical research I read about the actual use of coral calcium for bone graphs as it so closely matches our bones. I am not home now, otherwise I would site the medical journal source. Perhaps a MedLine search would get you there. I agree with the need for " synergistic " formulas. The Coral Calcium I'm using has over 77 other minerals in it, making it function on a synergistic level as well. It is obtained from above ground source, not from sea bottom. Take care, Cat Brown Re: Message: 14 Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 16:07:44 -0700 From: " kathy lintzenich " <mykittypaws@...> Subject: Re: Coral calcium I DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE YOU BUT I READ MANY PLACES THAT THE CORAL CALCIUM IS ALL HYPE. IT MAY NOT BE TRUE BUT THE OKINOWANS ( DID I SAY THAT CORRECTLY) HAD A WONDERFUL DIET WHICH CONTRIBUTED TO THEIR LACK OF DIS-EASE AND LONGEVITY. WHY DON'T YOU TRY A BONE BUILDING FORMULA AND WHATEVER RESISTANCE TYPE ACTIVITY YOU CAN MUNSTER UP THE STRENGTH FOR? IF YOU CAN LIFT SMALL WEIGHTS, IT WILL REALLY HELP.HERE IS A FORMULA THAT IS GOOD- OSTEO-GEST CALL 800-645-9909. IT IS ONLY 12.00 FOR 180 CAPSULES. IT HAS VIT. D AND K-1 WITH BORON, SILICA, MAG, CAL, MAGANESE AND EVERYTHING ELSE YOU NEED SYNERGISTICALLY FOR BONE HEALTH! Kathy Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail./mailtour.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Hi Blue, Can you tell me which brand you use? There are many on the market and it's difficult to determine the good from the not so good. Thanks, --- bluewillow <blue.willow@...> wrote: > I use Coral calcium in gel cap form.(Fine powder) > Most calciums are going to > come from a " hard " source unless you can eat a > Vegetable form of calcium.. I > have no complaints about coral calcium. > Blue > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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