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Most people do not consume enough calcium nor magnesium. Calcium

requires the presence of fats to help get it into systemic circulation. It

must first become a disassociated cation before it can cross over. It

matters very little the anion to which it is was complexed when consumed.

Some forms get into the system a little faster than others, that is all.

Past research shows that the tonage at which the tablet is compressed makes

far more difference than the calcium compound chosen. If pressed too hard

they can easily pass through the entire alimentary tract.

Of course don't discount the valuable placebo effect of Barefoot's

marketing narrative about the Okinawans.

Skye Chambers on the cures for cancer list posted the following which I thought

was interesting.

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Coral Calcium Scam - Healthwatcher.net

On November 30, 1998 I learned that snake-oil salesman and

author Barefoot was coming to the Kitchener Public

Library to give a noon time talk about Coral Calcium.

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Then he started in with the main theme of the day, the

Okinawan miracle of miracles, there are 3 million people who

live on this island and there is no cancer. Hey folks, its

the Shangri-la archipelago.

According to Barefoot there are 155 diseases caused by low

calcium levels in the body. Why if a baby had to go off

milk, they would have to eat 22 lbs. of spinach, or 15 lbs.

of broccoli to make up the difference. " We need another

source " , he exclaimed.

We could drink milk, it can lower hard disease by 1000% he

says. We could do the same for breast cancer. Did you know

that according to this HTN guru that " vegetarians die 9

years earlier than meat eaters. " What happened to all those

Seventh Day Adventist studies from Loma that said just

the opposite?

Finally, the reason we all came, the story about the Coral

Calcium from Okinawa.There were signs everywhere, books on

the table two feet high, newspapers with pictures of

chiropractors, satisfied customers, and testimonies from

all.

Dr. Dubner's story about a female patient of his who

had tried every modality known to mankind to treat a swollen

knee that had swollen to " twice its normal size " , and was in

a wheelchair. She was finally given one glass of the " coral

calcium " and " within 40 minutes she felt energy, strength,

and stability she hadn't felt in months. She was able to

stand up and take several steps with much less pain " Within

24 hours her atrophied leg was recovering its muscle mass.

Eugene Jolliff balanced his diabetes

Wanda who cured her psoriasis

Why are the Japanese who live on Okinawa so healthy?

According to HTN's front-man Barefoot, it's because the

coral reef is disintigrating, and there is coral sand

everywhere, even in the air. All they have to do is " breathe

it in " . He says that the average Okinawan ingests 12,000 mg.

of calcium a day. " There are no doctors, no disease, and

they live to 149, " he rants.

Why, 540 years ago chickens that lived near the ocean waves,

and obviously must have inhaled the calcium-laden air, gave

the best eggs. The people ate the eggs. For two hundred

years the coral calcium was hauled off to Europe,

principally Scandinavia, where they soaked up the stuff. I

guess they don't have oysters, or clams, or limestone or

maybe even intelligent chickens up there.

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The Truth About Okinawan Drinking Water

Subject: Calcium from Okinawa

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999

From: Ozz <ozz@...>

tpolevoy@...

I read with interest your letter to Okinawa Times. I lived

in Okinawa for 13 years and can tell you that Okinawans do

not mine coral reefs for calcium. Their major source of

calcium is fish.

The well water which is probably high in mineral deposits as

Okinawa is primarily a limestone island, is undrinkable due

to pollution.

Before 1960 or so a large percentage of the rural population

obtained its drinking water from wells, springs or streams,

and I imagine there was a higher content of minerals in the

water. Okinawa has the distinction of the highest ratio

seniors over the age of 100 in comparison to the general

population of any prefecture in Japan. I don't think there

are any quite a 150 years old, but Okinawa has boasted the

oldest people in the world for some time. The Okinawans who

live that long all share several things in common:

1. High fiber, low fat diet. Lots of rice, " yama-imo "

mountain potato, other root vegetables, " miso " made from soy

beans and barley and other grain. The primary meat intake

was fish. Pork and goat meat were considered delicacies and

only consumed on special occassions.

2. Exercise. Rural Okinawans worked hard for a living.

Cultivation was by hand. They did not have many work

animals. Fishermen swam and dove without benefit of

equipment. Women had to haul water etc. etc. If they went

anywhere they walked.

3. Attitude. Okinawans have the attitude that, generally

speaking, close enough is good enough, if it doesn't get

done today there is always tomorrow. They are very friendly

and magnanomous, rarely getting upset, and go with the flow.

I have visited 7 or 8 countries and Okinawans are the most

easy-going I have encountered, by a long shot.

These are just general observations that I have made while

living there. Japan has one of the lowest cancer rates for a

first world country, but with the change in diet, lots of

Mcs, etc. that the younger generation is accustomed to

the cancer rate has been going up. Japanese women who

relocate to the US and change diets, breast cancer rates are

the same as for US women within a couple of decades. Women

who remain in Japan and keep a traditional diet, have a much

lower breast cancer rate.

Anyway I digress. Bottom line, the folks who are selling

this calcium from the corral reefs are full of it.

That source of calcium is no different from any other source

and will not make you live longer. If you want to live

longer, move to rural Okinawa, change your attitude and diet

and hope for the best.

Hope I answered your question and didn't ramble too much.

Ozz

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Odd balls, goof balls, and calcium balls - it's all just

shattered dreams

The Wolfe Clinic - Nova Scotia

The Wolfe Clinic - Nova Scotia homepage - Self proclaimed

doctor of acupuncture Darrell Wolfe, the publisher of

" Reclaim your inner terrain " , holds down the front lines in

his search for invisible parasites and an unbalanced pH. He

wants you to believe that because the brown spots on a

banana indicate mold, that you should go out and buy Coral

Calcium and a few dozen other potions.

Here are a few comments from his tape and his pamphlet

Our health system is structured for the benefits of the few,

not the many

....germs do not cause disease

pH balancing is the greatest weapon for the health of

mankind

There is only one sickness, one disease, and one cause

Life and death are in the blood

How are you inner streams?

Cancer is a four letter word and that word is acid

....anything acidic is lacking in oxygen

Auto Warburg received the Nobel prize for proving that a

lack of oxygen causes cancer and with further studies with

Dr. Reich, they proved that it was actually a lack of

nutritional calcium. (He can't even spell Otto right, so why

should we trust his scientific knowledge?

....if you've got the right philosophy and you've got the

right products then you are going to get results

Once you start taking disease and putting them into a

hundred different slots, that's when all of the confusion

begins

Look, if you don't want to take supplement, you haven't got

a chance

When we're stressed, we release hormones. Their adrenals are

dumping out hormones and....this causes acidosis, it cuts

down their oxygen supply to the brain and nervous system,

eating up calcium. (I thought most of the calcium was either

in the bones or bound to protein?)

Prices

Calcium -

Dr. Don Nakatsuchi - Texas optometrist and MLM guru

Dr. Nakatsuchi's Coral Calcium homepage

Dr. Nakatsuchi's Totalmarketing operations

Dr. Nakatsuchi's Coral Calcium more information

Health - Boosters - Canada's own

Homepage -

Direct Nutrition

Direct Nutrition Main

The wrinkle patch -REALLY - The Wrinkle patch - yeah right!

Marine Bio Japan

Marine Bio Japan - homepage

CoralTM - yes folks someone actually trademarked the name

Coral. Coral grains are grains of the skeletal structure of

reef-building coral that has become defunct. Moreover, the

method by which they are obtained does not destroy living

coral reefs or in any way damage the environment.

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More MLM companies that sell or promote Coral Calcium

products that some claim will change the pH of your blood,

prolong life, and may prevent cancer - all while trying to

make you think you can get rich quick

The history of Coral Calcium - according to them

Total Health Expo in Toronto homepage - look for books by

Dr. Carl J. Reich and R. Barefoot

Coral Waters - Canadian link

FAQ about Coral Calcium from colloidal-min.com

Send for Barefoot's book

The Millenium Team - We find that there are two types of

people in the world, doers and watchers. If you are a doer,

are interested in health, wealth, and time freedom, then go

to The Millennium Team page

Kalaya Marketing

Coral Waters - Coral Calcium

Benchmark U.S.A.

Coral Calcium from Hawaii

Deja News and e-mails that prove that to Coral Calcium

fanciers - the world is still flat

Lenn Sander - The world reknown " Sango King " spills his guts

out over coral in 17 alt. news groups and other kinky

places.

A great piece of work, I'd say - A singularly brilliant

response to Lenn Sander by Landis of the

alt.support.chronic-pain group.

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Medline and Medical links

Colloidal Mineral Supplements: Unnecessary and Potentially

Hazardous - Pontolillo

D. Wallach, " The Mineral Doctor " - The Skeptics

Dictionary

Okinawan health stories debunked: Barefoot's claims that

Okinawans live long because they are flooded with corral

calcium in their food and in the air.

FDA Calcium recommedations

Mayo Clinic Calcium recommendations

Prevention and management of osteoporosis: Consensus

statements from the Scientific Advisory Board of the

Osteoporosis Society of Canada - Calcium nutrition and

osteoporosis

Tim M. Murray, MD, FRCPC Canadian Medical Association

Journal 1996; 155 (suppl): 935-939

SALIVA AS AN ANALYTICAL TOOL IN TOXICOLOGY - What can you

see from analyzing saliva? It appears that Dr. Carl J. Reich

never lived long enough to know that saliva is a crystal

ball into all sorts of useful diagnostic areas of medicine.

But, checking the pH of it is never mentioned at all in this

over 100k file from the Utrecht Institute of Pharmaceutical

Sciences, in Holland.

dale's Medical Nutrition Resources -

Pharma Nord Research links on Calcium - pay attention to the

absorption and cancer studies. It may take a while to

download as some of the files are over 130k, but it will be

worth it. I think that Mr. Barefoot's contention that we

should all pig out on bacon, butter, eggs and milk products

is not the best idea. Cancer rates in vegetarians if far

lower than meat eaters.

Calculate your calcium needs - Kline Beecham - Use the

" Calcium Calculator " to estimate your current daily calcium

intake,and learn about sources of calcium to help you

achieve your recommended daily intake. (Hey, I entered the

word " coral " into the database and it didn't register....how

strange, eh?)

Quack science and scientists often associated with Carl

Reich, or his successors

Oxylist Re: theory of cancer cause - links about Otto

Warburg and Carl Reich. Only one of them won fought for the

Kaiser, worked in Nazi Germany, and won two Nobel Prizes.

What exactly Dr. Reich did is not very clear, even from

their own publications.

Dr. Otto Warburg: From the book The Warburgs: The

Twentieth-Century Odyssey of a Remarkable Jewish Family, by

Ron Chernow. New York: Random House, 1993.

Warburg was a doctor and winner of 2 Nobel prizes. The first

was in 1931 for physiology and medicine. In spite of his

Jewish ancestry and outspoken hostility to the Hitler

regime, he was permitted to continue his work at the Kaiser

Wilhelm Institute in Berlin. Because of his Jewish ancestry,

in 1941 he briefly lost his post at the Institute, " but a

few weeks later received a personal order from Hitler's

Chancellery to resume work on his cancer research. " Otto

Warburg's decision to collaborate with the regime, writes

Chernow, " incensed colleagues outside Germany. " The

scientist " justified his decision to stay in Nazi Germany by

claiming that he was performing extremely important cancer

research that would save lives and that he couldn't transfer

his research operation abroad. "

Ripples From O.C. Healer's Case Spreading - the amazing

world of Salvatore D'Onofrio According to D'Onofrio,

inserting ozone through tubes in the vagina is a powerful,

immediate way to activate the immune system. Sound almost as

crazy as Dr. Carl Reich's theories, but much more kinky.

Copy of Dr. Carl Reich's license revocation form in

California

DOCBOARD - Search many U.S. States for you favourite quack

doctor - it's too bad that Canada has nothing to offer the

public s yet.

Quotes and anecdotes carved in stone

The Car Talk guys from Boston's own NPR station weekly quiz

on Hunzas: They should live so long, eh?

Calcium rocks and organic watering holes around the world

Doc's Mineral Rocks with FULVIC acid -

" nature intended us to get most of our minerals in a plant

form "

" most minerals in most supplements are not chelated or

citrated and hence are often found in a more rudimentary or

less absorable form "

" UNBIASED " report on Colloidal minerals - that's an

oxymoronic term if ever I heard one - " Break a leg "

Minerals, Minerals, Minerals

In the past few years there has been a massive marketing

blitz concerning minerals. This blitz has been both good and

bad. On a positive note, it has served to help educate

people concerning their need for minerals. But, at the same

time, these same people have become extremely confused about

what form of mineral to take. (In other words, " Can you have

your rocks and eat it, too? " )

Mendocino Water - California - testimonials from one medical

doctor says:

" The form of calcium in Mendocino Sparkling Mineral Water

(calcium carbonate) is more readily absorbed by the

intestine than is calcium phosphate (as in milk) or calcium

oxalate (as in green, leafy vegetables). "

Professor Floyd C. Rector, M.D., Chairman University of

California Medical Center, San Francisco

Reef sites

Mother on the destruction of the coral reefs - Coral

mining: People excavate coral reefs for their limestone and

sand, for use in building materials, resort hotel beaches,

tourist souvenirs, even snake-oil medicines: A Swedish

company, ssons Preventive Medical Group, claims its

Alka-Mine Coral Calcium will " naturally detox the body by

neutralizing the acidity with which we are all...too apt to

pollute our systems. " Sweden, of course, has no coral reefs;

the product's mineral-rich coral sand is mined off Okinawa.

Coral Calcium scams destroy Okinawan reefs - " The Secret to

Longer Life Now Revealed! " so says the latest bogus health

claim. This industry is mining coral off of Okinawa to sell

as a mineral supplement to cure all kinds of ailments, from

arthritis to cancer. Of course, there is no scientific or

medical evidence to substantiate their claims the mining

destroys the reef ecosystem. Drinking Perrier water is a

safer bet for those seeking minerals.

Reef Relief links - lots of great links about coral reefs

around the world

NGO links about coral reefs-

What is a reef? -

Alarming Decline of Coral Reefs Worldwide - by Emil Venere -

Whatever the causes, the potential ecological and economic

consequences are ominous. Theories blame pollution, oil

spills and sedimentation caused by construction and waste

discharge. "

CORAL REEFS IN OKINAWA, JAPAN - Kiyoshi Yamazato Meio

University Okinawa, Japan - Coral reefs in the islands of

Okinawa were devastated by Acanthaster planci, the coral

eating crown-of-thorns starfish during the period 1974 to

1977. Since then, corals have recovered in some areas, but

they are now under attack by Acanthaster once again. As a

consequence, coral coverage remains at low levels. (So why

are they mining it?)

Yoshimine Zenji: A Life Dedicated to the Reefs - By Maggie

Suzuki - The movement spearheaded by Yoshimine-san to review

public works in Okinawa, most specifically agricultural

improvement projects which are causing coral-killing soil

erosion, has made little progress against the massive

inertia of established practice. Agricultural improvement

projects in Okinawa were causing problems due to red silt

runoff pollution, but the Ministry has never, even up to the

present, acknowledged the existence of the red silt runoff

problem or their responsibility in causing it.(What is in

the silt runoff, and are the coral calcium products derived

from those very areas.)

[ ] Coral Calcium

> Everyone is entitled to an opinion here.

> My opinion is that Coral Calcium is all hype. I was disappointed when i

purchased a bottle of it. I believe it to be a fraud. Harold

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In 1932 Otto Warburg won the Nobel Prize in Medicine for his discovery that

cancer was anaerobic: cancer occurs in the absence of free oxygen. As

innocuous as this discovery might seem, it is actually a startling and

significant finding worthy of a Nobel Prize. What it basically means is that

cancer is caused by a lack of free oxygen in the body and therefore, whatever

causes this to occur is the cause of all cancers.

In chemistry, alkali solutions (pH over 7.0) tend to absorb oxygen,

while acids (pH under 7.0) tend to expel oxygen. For example, a mild alkali

can absorb over 100 times as much oxygen as a mild acid. Therefore, when the

body becomes acidic by dropping below pH 7.0 (note: all body fluids, except

for stomach and urine, are supposed to be mildly alkaline at pH 7.4), oxygen

is driven out of the body thereby, according to Nobel Prize winner Otto

Warburg, inducing cancer. Stomach fluids must remain acidic to digest food

and urine must remain acidic to remove wastes from the body. Blood is the

exception. Blood must always remain at an alkaline pH 7.4 so that it can

retain its oxygen. When adequate mineral consumption is in the diet, the

blood is supplied the crucial minerals required to maintain an alkaline pH of

7.4. However when insufficient mineral consumption is in the diet, the body

is forced to rob (other body fluids) to pay (the blood). In doing

so, it removes crucial minerals, such as calcium, from the saliva, spinal

fluids, kidneys, liver, etc., in order to maintain the blood at pH 7.4. This

causes the de-mineralized fluids and organs to become acidic and therefore

anaerobic, thus inducing not only cancer, but a host of other degenerative

diseases, such as heart disease, diabetes, arthritis, lupus, etc..

Everyone knows that the human body is made up of 78% water by weight,

and that water is hydrogen and oxygen gases. When nitrogen gas and carbon in

the form of carbon dioxide and methane gases are added, the total gas in the

body by weight becomes over 95%. Almost half of the remaining 5% that makes

up the human body and controls all biological functions is the mineral

calcium.

No other mineral is capable of performing as many biological

functions as is calcium. Calcium is involved in almost every biological

function. This amazing mineral provides the electrical energy for the heart

to beat and for all muscle movement. It is the calcium ion that is

responsible for feeding every cell. It does this by latching on to seven

nutrient molecules and one water molecule and pulls them through the nutrient

channel. It then detaches its load and returns to repeat the process.

Another important biological job for calcium is DNA replication, which is

crucial for maintaining youth and a healthy body. DNA replication is the

basis for all body repair and can only occur on a substrate of calcium.

Thus, low calcium means low body repair and premature aging. As important as

all these and hundreds of other biological functions of calcium are to human

health, none is more important than the job of pH control. Calcium to acid,

is like water to a fire. Calcium quickly destroys oxygen robbing acid in the

body fluids. Thus, the more calcium, the more oxygen, and therefore, the

less cancer and other degenerative disease.

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Group, Someone recently inquired about coral calcium.

I just received my Jan newsletter from Health and Healing by Dr. n

Whitaker.

To make it short, he says:

" Bogus health claims aside, coral is not even a quality source of calcium. Coral

has notoriously high concentrations of aluminum, lead, and other heavy metals,

which means some coral calcium products may actually be harmful to your health.

My advice is to save your money and stick with safer(and less expensive) forms

of calcium such as citrate, carbonate, ascorbate, and aspartate. "

Hope this helps.

Carol/Piney

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Have heard so much about coral calcium being the most easily absorbed in

addition to have so many other minerals in it. Does anyone have any info

about which companies would be the best product and has any testing been done

to rule out the possibility of it having mercury, etc. in it. I have

contacted several companies and not received one reply about this issue. Is

this product too good to be true. Thansk. N.

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Hi ,

I take Bob Barefoots coral calcium formula. I guess there are two

types of coral calcium one is marine grade which is the best and the

other is fossilized. The fossilized calcium is taken from the sand

which supposedly has been stripped of alot of the natural nutrients

from the sea. I have been taking Coral calcium for some time now, I

also give it to my grand dtr who is dairy free. I have personally e-

mailed Bob Barefoot and asked him about vaccines. He wrote back that

he has no problem with them. I did not ask him about mercury in the

calcium. That is a great question. You can e-mail him at

www.cureamerica.net. This is his personal web page. I was shocked

when he actually wrote me back personally. I would be really

interested in hearing whatt he has to say.

Peggy

> Have heard so much about coral calcium being the most easily

absorbed in

> addition to have so many other minerals in it. Does anyone have

any info

> about which companies would be the best product and has any testing

been done

> to rule out the possibility of it having mercury, etc. in it. I

have

> contacted several companies and not received one reply about this

issue. Is

> this product too good to be true. Thansk. N.

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Hi Mark,

I take Coral Calcium Daily Bob Barefoots forumla. Do you know if that

one has lead in it as well. I posted a question on this group a few

days ago asking if anyone knew if it had mercury in it. The reason I

asked is because it is supposedly harvested from coral. Where did you

get this information. I do have to admit that since I started taking

it I feel alot better. The reason I took the coral calcium is because

all the other's I have taken really give me a bad stomach ache. You

might be interested in knowing that I e-mailed Bob Barefoot and asked

him what he thought of all the vaccines that are being given to

children and the correlation between them and autism. He answered

that all his grandchildren have been vaccinated and have no problems.

I saved his e-mail if anyone is interested in reading it.

Peggy

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> For those of you taking coral calcium " supreme " you should know that

> consumerlab.com has found lead in their product. Aside from the fact

> that the claims made for the product were outrageous, shame on them

for

> selling a product with a neurotoxin in it. A claim of " we didnt

know "

> would be unacceptable too as they should have tested the product

before

> selling it.

>

> in health,

> Mark Schauss

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It is Barefoot's formula they tested from my understanding. You can see

the information at www.consumerlab.com.

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Hi Mark,

I take Coral Calcium Daily Bob Barefoots forumla. Do you know if that

one has lead in it as well. I posted a question on this group a few

days ago asking if anyone knew if it had mercury in it. The reason I

asked is because it is supposedly harvested from coral. Where did you

get this information. I do have to admit that since I started taking

it I feel alot better. The reason I took the coral calcium is because

all the other's I have taken really give me a bad stomach ache. You

might be interested in knowing that I e-mailed Bob Barefoot and asked

him what he thought of all the vaccines that are being given to

children and the correlation between them and autism. He answered

that all his grandchildren have been vaccinated and have no problems. I

saved his e-mail if anyone is interested in reading it. Peggy

--- In , " Mark Schauss " <schauss@c...>

wrote:

> For those of you taking coral calcium " supreme " you should know that

> consumerlab.com has found lead in their product. Aside from the fact

> that the claims made for the product were outrageous, shame on them

for

> selling a product with a neurotoxin in it. A claim of " we didnt

know "

> would be unacceptable too as they should have tested the product

before

> selling it.

>

> in health,

> Mark Schauss

>

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Coral Calcium is a scam. The calcium in coral is calcium carbonate

the same as in most calcium suppliments. Here are a few articles to

look at before spending 10 to 20 times as much as you should for a

calcium suppliment. I would not take any coral calcuim if it was the

only calcium supplement available. These two articles are from Time

magazine and The Berkly Wellness Letter. I have read dozens of

simular articles and have several others saved.

http://www.time.com/time/columnist/printout/0,8816,433084,00.html

http://www.berkeleywellness.com/html/ds/dsCoralCalcium.php

Here are the specks for Barefoots products

http://www.discount-vitamins-herbs.net/coral-calcium-COA.htm

You will see that not only does it have mercury but lead, alluminum,

thaluim, iodine and other toxic metals and toxins.

> > For those of you taking coral calcium " supreme " you should know

that

> > consumerlab.com has found lead in their product. Aside from the

fact

> > that the claims made for the product were outrageous, shame on

them

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> > selling a product with a neurotoxin in it. A claim of " we didnt

> know "

> > would be unacceptable too as they should have tested the product

> before

> > selling it.

> >

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its bascially calcium carbonate and some inorganic magnesium.

> Does anyone know if coral calcium is a good source of calcium for

our kids? I had picked up one that also had VitaminD and magnesium

for my daughter who is 15, but at the bottom of the bottle it

said " not for use in children under 18 " .

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>>> Does anyone know if coral calcium is a good source of calcium for

our kids?

I don't think so...basically calcium carbonate which is one of the

least absorbable forms. Also, there is the contaminant issue (maybe

lead or other metals/minerals in it). I know it is 'trendy' at the

moment but would use some soluble form for health purposes.

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This really dissapoints me as I thought coral calcium wasn't calcium

carbonate. I do not like that form of calcium. Oh well, guess that'll be

another supplement I toss.

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> its bascially calcium carbonate and some inorganic magnesium.

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> > Does anyone know if coral calcium is a good source of calcium for

> our kids? I had picked up one that also had VitaminD and magnesium

> for my daughter who is 15, but at the bottom of the bottle it

> said " not for use in children under 18 " .

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I'm so glad I posted here. Thanks for this info. I have steered clear of

calcium carbonate for many years, especially lead containing ones. It make

me angry that it doesn't specify the type of calcium, just says calcium from

1,000 mg of coral calcium.

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> >>> Does anyone know if coral calcium is a good source of calcium for

> our kids?

>

> I don't think so...basically calcium carbonate which is one of the

> least absorbable forms. Also, there is the contaminant issue (maybe

> lead or other metals/minerals in it). I know it is 'trendy' at the

> moment but would use some soluble form for health purposes.

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Then what type of calcium is best? What should I be using?

> > > Does anyone know if coral calcium is a good source of calcium for

> > our kids? I had picked up one that also had VitaminD and magnesium

> > for my daughter who is 15, but at the bottom of the bottle it

> > said " not for use in children under 18 " .

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>>> Then what type of calcium is best? What should I be using?

Calcium oxide and carbonate are the least absorbable. Most other

types are soluble and more absorbably. Chelate or ionic forms are

good. Citrate and malate are good. Others include aspartate, lactate,

ascorbate.

I noticed on a number of the calcium coral sites that they weren't

really promoting it as a way to increase calcium in your diet. They

were saying it will neutralize acid (which any form of calcium should

do because elemental calcium is divalent positive). This helps

to 'alkalinize' your body so you will live longer. Calcium carbonate

is a main ingredient in tums so it is a also for neutralizing acid.

But again, other forms should do that too.

I am not nearly as interested in living longer as I am in living

better while I am around. :)

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Eve, I use the Nikken water products also. The optimizer provides coral

calcium the natural way, the way that the natives obtained their coral calcium,

that enables them to live longer lives. You get coral calcium through the

water, and we know it is absorbed that way, as opposed to decreased absorption

through pills. The optimizer also restructures the water into hexagonal

water, and it super oxygenates and alkalizes the water.

Barb

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Barb,

I would be interested in getting this " optimizer " .

Dolores

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Barb, do you have documentation other than what the manufacturer says on the

Nikken water product?

My girlfriend is native Okinawan and she doesn't support the view that

Okinawans are long livers because of calcium. At 71 she is in very good

health, but she eats lots of vegetables and does a lot of walking.

Okinawans had a very sparse diet during the war, often raiding garbage cans

of American soldiers' mess halls for meat.

All studies I've read say calcium carbonate is poorly absorbed, like Tums.

Bob Barefoot had many thousands of bottles of Coral Calcium confiscated

because of unsubstantiated claims.

Devices that claim to change the nature of water by electricity or other

means are totally phony to the best of my knowledge.

I currently believe that goiing to a more alkaline diet whether by food or

pills may be beneficial healthwise to some people. That means no pop, a

little protein and a host of " no-no " s. I supplement with magnesium, known to

be very deficient in the American diet. As I recall, it virutally guarantees

no kidney stones and is supportive of better bone density. It took away my

severe back pain many years ago. However, as an aid in combating cancer, it

shares with calcium that there is no credible evidence. And both can really

screw up your digestion if taken in the wrong form at the wrong time,

Loren Parks parksl@...

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> water, and it super oxygenates and alkalizes the water.

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Kathy,

Yes, I have read the " hype " lit as well and it's good

for one to look at both sides to evaluate it for

ourselves.

I just know I used the power form of CC and my BMD's

improved.

While taking KAL brand of calcium/magnesium

supplements I had 3 BMD's over 3 yrs showing bone

loss. Then I started with the Ancient Wisdom CC

powder and within 6 mos. my BMD showed improvement.

As for " Bone building formulas " that you mention, I

recall some medical research I read about the actual

use of coral calcium for bone graphs as it so closely

matches our bones. I am not home now, otherwise I

would site the medical journal source. Perhaps a

MedLine search would get you there.

I agree with the need for " synergistic " formulas. The

Coral Calcium I'm using has over 77 other minerals in

it, making it function on a synergistic level as well.

It is obtained from above ground source, not from sea

bottom.

Take care,

Cat Brown

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Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 16:07:44 -0700

From: " kathy lintzenich " <mykittypaws@...>

Subject: Re: Coral calcium

I DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE YOU BUT I READ MANY PLACES

THAT THE CORAL CALCIUM IS ALL HYPE. IT MAY

NOT BE TRUE BUT THE OKINOWANS ( DID I SAY THAT

CORRECTLY) HAD A WONDERFUL DIET WHICH CONTRIBUTED

TO THEIR LACK OF DIS-EASE AND LONGEVITY. WHY DON'T YOU

TRY A BONE BUILDING FORMULA AND WHATEVER

RESISTANCE TYPE ACTIVITY YOU CAN MUNSTER UP THE

STRENGTH FOR? IF YOU CAN LIFT SMALL WEIGHTS, IT WILL

REALLY HELP.HERE IS A FORMULA THAT IS GOOD-

OSTEO-GEST CALL 800-645-9909. IT IS ONLY 12.00 FOR

180 CAPSULES. IT HAS VIT. D AND K-1 WITH BORON,

SILICA, MAG, CAL, MAGANESE AND EVERYTHING ELSE YOU

NEED SYNERGISTICALLY FOR BONE HEALTH! Kathy

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Hi Blue,

Can you tell me which brand you use? There are many

on the market and it's difficult to determine the good

from the not so good.

Thanks,

--- bluewillow <blue.willow@...> wrote:

> I use Coral calcium in gel cap form.(Fine powder)

> Most calciums are going to

> come from a " hard " source unless you can eat a

> Vegetable form of calcium.. I

> have no complaints about coral calcium.

> Blue

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