Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

[Guest guest]

It's sometimes better not to judge until you get past where someone

else is.  It is easy to say "my kids won't do that!", harder to stop

them if they insist.  ASD kids can be very stubborn - in their own

nice way.  It's also sometimes a matter of choosing your battles. 

When you are faced with behaviour that is/can be life threatening,

focusing on what is 'socially acceptable' doesn't seem that

important.

 

I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out

of certain annoying behaviours?

reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they can't

get their kids to comb their hair and the same kids wipes

boogers on a "booger wall".

pretty sure they are now 16.

If my kids do anything that I find socially

unacceptable and annoying, I doubt it will take me 16

years to break them out of that behaviour.

just because they have autism does not mean you let

them get away with everything. that's just shitty

parenting.

also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to

get them to change their behaviour.

don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.

[Guest guest]

My son is 8 going on 9 w/ the booger wall and he's been doing this for about 2 yrs.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 7:38:59 PMSubject: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out of certain annoying behaviours? reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they can't get their kids to comb their hair and the same kids wipes boogers on a "booger wall".

pretty sure they are now 16.

If my kids do anything that I find socially unacceptable and annoying, I doubt it will take me 16 years to break them out of that behaviour.

just because they have autism does not mean you let them get away with everything. that's just shitty parenting.

also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to get them to change their behaviour.

don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.

[Guest guest]

I agree totally.

Well that might sound sick but why not if nobody stops them. Moms need

to really scream at inappropriate behavior I think involving bodily

fluids and such.

Carolyn

Ponzio wrote:

>

>

> me either.

>

> I feel nauseous just thinking about it.

> I be the same kids probably wipe their asses on the wallpaper too.

>

> On 15 June 2011 10:30, Carolyn <charper777@...

> > wrote:

>

>     There is no way I would allow a booger wall. IMO that is yukky! Got to

>     be some sort of discipline to stop that behavior, nip it in the bid

>     somehow. How about, " Nooooooo don't put that booger there! " in a

>     really

>     angry disapproving tone of voice with Kleenex in hand. Seems I've done

>     that before but only when it was on a finger, didn't make it to a

>     wall.

>     I was too quick.

>     Carolyn

>

>     Ponzio wrote:

>     >

>     > I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out of certain

>     > annoying behaviours?

>     >

>     > reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they can't get their

>     kids

>     > to comb their hair and the same kids wipes boogers on a " booger

>     wall " .

>     > pretty sure they are now 16.

>     >

>     > If my kids do anything that I find socially unacceptable and

>     annoying,

>     > I doubt it will take me 16 years to break them out of that

>     behaviour.

>     > just because they have autism does not mean you let them get

>     away with

>     > everything. that's just shitty parenting.

>     > also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to get them to

>     > change their behaviour.

>     > don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.

>     >

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Scream at him? Yeah, like raising my voice would really do him or my wall any benefit! I suppose 's child is perfect and has no behavior problems. Why are you hear ? Socially inappropriate behaviors and behavior problems in general are like peanut butter and jelly for autistic children. We are supposed to be here to provide postive feedback and share experiences. seems to be here just to tell me and everyone else here that they are "shitty parents". Thanks !! So glad you are among us! We don't get enough of people telling us that. We need it from our inner autism communities as well. I vote for in for booger-patrol since she seems to have all the answers. Anyone else have

any behavior problems? , MAYBE you should start a autistic collum and tell us all how to eliminate problem behaviors in 90 seconds or less. Put it on DVD and sell them at Autism fairs and conventions. I'm so glad we all ran into you. I've been waiting for 8 years to finally meet someone with all the answers and now I've found YOU.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:37:28 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

Well that might sound sick but why not if nobody stops them. Moms need to really scream at inappropriate behavior I think involving bodily fluids and such.Carolyn Ponzio wrote:> >> me either.>> I feel nauseous just thinking about it.> I be the same kids probably wipe their asses on the wallpaper too.>> On 15 June 2011 10:30, Carolyn > wrote:>> There is no way I would allow a booger wall. IMO that is yukky! Got to> be some sort of discipline to stop that behavior, nip it in the bid> somehow. How about, "Nooooooo don't put that booger there!" in

a> really> angry disapproving tone of voice with Kleenex in hand. Seems I've done> that before but only when it was on a finger, didn't make it to a> wall.> I was too quick.> Carolyn>> Ponzio wrote:> >> > I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out of certain> > annoying behaviours?> >> > reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they can't get their> kids> > to comb their hair and the same kids wipes boogers on a "booger> wall".> > pretty sure they are now 16.> >> > If my kids do anything that I find socially unacceptable and> annoying,> > I doubt it will take me 16 years to break them out of that> behaviour.> > just because they have autism does not mean you let them get> away with> > everything. that's just shitty

parenting.> > also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to get them to> > change their behaviour.> > don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.> >>>> >

[Guest guest]

I feel like I need to speak up on this and defend . One thing I have learned from my son's Psychologist is this. While u need to teach autistic kids appropriate behavior, A LOT of times they will still revert back to their old habits. No matter how hard u try, many will often do this. Does that mean u shouldn't keep trying to teach the that behavior is not appropriate? Nope! But it isn't the parents fault if they do whatever they can to teach their child that something is inappropriate, and they still revert back to it time and time again. I think is trying to do whatever she can to help her son learn appropriate behavior. {{{HUGS}}} .

 

Jenn

There is no way I would allow a booger wall. IMO that is yukky! Got tobe some sort of discipline to stop that behavior, nip it in the bid

somehow. How about, " Nooooooo don't put that booger there! " in a reallyangry disapproving tone of voice with Kleenex in hand. Seems I've donethat before but only when it was on a finger, didn't make it to a wall.

I was too quick.Carolyn

Ponzio wrote:>> I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out of certain> annoying behaviours?>> reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they can't get their kids

> to comb their hair and the same kids wipes boogers on a " booger wall " .> pretty sure they are now 16.>> If my kids do anything that I find socially unacceptable and annoying,> I doubt it will take me 16 years to break them out of that behaviour.

> just because they have autism does not mean you let them get away with> everything. that's just shitty parenting.> also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to get them to> change their behaviour.

> don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.>------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

8 years you have allowed your kids to have a booger wall?do you want a Parent of the Year award?

Scream at him?  Yeah, like raising my voice would really do him or my wall any benefit!  I suppose 's child is perfect and has no behavior problems.  Why are you hear ?  Socially inappropriate behaviors and behavior problems in general are like peanut butter and jelly for autistic children.  We are supposed to be here to provide postive feedback and share experiences.  seems to be here just to tell me and everyone else here that they are " shitty parents " .  Thanks !!  So glad you are among us!  We don't get enough of people telling us that.  We need it from our inner autism communities as well.  I vote for  in for booger-patrol since she seems to have all the answers.  Anyone else have

any behavior problems?  , MAYBE you should start a autistic collum and tell us all how to eliminate problem behaviors in 90 seconds or less.  Put it on DVD and sell them at Autism fairs and conventions.  I'm so glad we all ran into you.  I've been waiting for 8 years to finally meet someone with all the answers and now I've found YOU. 

 

To: autism-aspergers

Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:37:28 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours 

Well that might sound sick but why not if nobody stops them. Moms need to really scream at inappropriate behavior I think involving bodily fluids and such.Carolyn Ponzio wrote:> >

> me either.>> I feel nauseous just thinking about it.> I be the same kids probably wipe their asses on the wallpaper too.>> On 15 June 2011 10:30, Carolyn <charper777@...

> > wrote:>> There is no way I would allow a booger wall. IMO that is yukky! Got to

> be some sort of discipline to stop that behavior, nip it in the bid> somehow. How about, " Nooooooo don't put that booger there! " in

a> really> angry disapproving tone of voice with Kleenex in hand. Seems I've done> that before but only when it was on a finger, didn't make it to a> wall.> I was too quick.

> Carolyn>> Ponzio wrote:> >> > I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out of certain> > annoying behaviours?> >> > reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they can't get their

> kids> > to comb their hair and the same kids wipes boogers on a " booger> wall " .> > pretty sure they are now 16.> >> > If my kids do anything that I find socially unacceptable and

> annoying,> > I doubt it will take me 16 years to break them out of that> behaviour.> > just because they have autism does not mean you let them get> away with> > everything. that's just shitty

parenting.> > also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to get them to> > change their behaviour.> > don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.> >>>

> >

[Guest guest]

8 years you have allowed your kids to have a booger wall?do you want a Parent of the Year award?

Scream at him?  Yeah, like raising my voice would really do him or my wall any benefit!  I suppose 's child is perfect and has no behavior problems.  Why are you hear ?  Socially inappropriate behaviors and behavior problems in general are like peanut butter and jelly for autistic children.  We are supposed to be here to provide postive feedback and share experiences.  seems to be here just to tell me and everyone else here that they are " shitty parents " .  Thanks !!  So glad you are among us!  We don't get enough of people telling us that.  We need it from our inner autism communities as well.  I vote for  in for booger-patrol since she seems to have all the answers.  Anyone else have

any behavior problems?  , MAYBE you should start a autistic collum and tell us all how to eliminate problem behaviors in 90 seconds or less.  Put it on DVD and sell them at Autism fairs and conventions.  I'm so glad we all ran into you.  I've been waiting for 8 years to finally meet someone with all the answers and now I've found YOU. 

 

To: autism-aspergers

Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:37:28 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours 

Well that might sound sick but why not if nobody stops them. Moms need to really scream at inappropriate behavior I think involving bodily fluids and such.Carolyn Ponzio wrote:> >

> me either.>> I feel nauseous just thinking about it.> I be the same kids probably wipe their asses on the wallpaper too.>> On 15 June 2011 10:30, Carolyn <charper777@...

> > wrote:>> There is no way I would allow a booger wall. IMO that is yukky! Got to

> be some sort of discipline to stop that behavior, nip it in the bid> somehow. How about, " Nooooooo don't put that booger there! " in

a> really> angry disapproving tone of voice with Kleenex in hand. Seems I've done> that before but only when it was on a finger, didn't make it to a> wall.> I was too quick.

> Carolyn>> Ponzio wrote:> >> > I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out of certain> > annoying behaviours?> >> > reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they can't get their

> kids> > to comb their hair and the same kids wipes boogers on a " booger> wall " .> > pretty sure they are now 16.> >> > If my kids do anything that I find socially unacceptable and

> annoying,> > I doubt it will take me 16 years to break them out of that> behaviour.> > just because they have autism does not mean you let them get> away with> > everything. that's just shitty

parenting.> > also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to get them to> > change their behaviour.> > don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.> >>>

> >

[Guest guest]

oh and my son does a lot that annoys the crap out of me. hitting, kicking, biting his sister and brother. he has frequent meltdowns, he wants his own way all the time, is impatient, is demanding. the list goes on and on. he is not perfect. don't get me wrong. but his boogers are binned not spread on walls. his hair is combed, we don't leave the house if he looks feral. etc.

8 years you have allowed your kids to have a booger wall?do you want a Parent of the Year award?

Scream at him?  Yeah, like raising my voice would really do him or my wall any benefit!  I suppose 's child is perfect and has no behavior problems.  Why are you hear ?  Socially inappropriate behaviors and behavior problems in general are like peanut butter and jelly for autistic children.  We are supposed to be here to provide postive feedback and share experiences.  seems to be here just to tell me and everyone else here that they are " shitty parents " .  Thanks !!  So glad you are among us!  We don't get enough of people telling us that.  We need it from our inner autism communities as well.  I vote for  in for booger-patrol since she seems to have all the answers.  Anyone else have

any behavior problems?  , MAYBE you should start a autistic collum and tell us all how to eliminate problem behaviors in 90 seconds or less.  Put it on DVD and sell them at Autism fairs and conventions.  I'm so glad we all ran into you.  I've been waiting for 8 years to finally meet someone with all the answers and now I've found YOU. 

 

To: autism-aspergers

Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:37:28 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours 

Well that might sound sick but why not if nobody stops them. Moms need to really scream at inappropriate behavior I think involving bodily fluids and such.Carolyn Ponzio wrote:> >

> me either.>> I feel nauseous just thinking about it.> I be the same kids probably wipe their asses on the wallpaper too.>> On 15 June 2011 10:30, Carolyn <charper777@...

> > wrote:>> There is no way I would allow a booger wall. IMO that is yukky! Got to

> be some sort of discipline to stop that behavior, nip it in the bid> somehow. How about, " Nooooooo don't put that booger there! " in

a> really> angry disapproving tone of voice with Kleenex in hand. Seems I've done> that before but only when it was on a finger, didn't make it to a> wall.> I was too quick.

> Carolyn>> Ponzio wrote:> >> > I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out of certain> > annoying behaviours?> >> > reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they can't get their

> kids> > to comb their hair and the same kids wipes boogers on a " booger> wall " .> > pretty sure they are now 16.> >> > If my kids do anything that I find socially unacceptable and

> annoying,> > I doubt it will take me 16 years to break them out of that> behaviour.> > just because they have autism does not mean you let them get> away with> > everything. that's just shitty

parenting.> > also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to get them to> > change their behaviour.> > don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.> >>>

> >

[Guest guest]

oh and my son does a lot that annoys the crap out of me. hitting, kicking, biting his sister and brother. he has frequent meltdowns, he wants his own way all the time, is impatient, is demanding. the list goes on and on. he is not perfect. don't get me wrong. but his boogers are binned not spread on walls. his hair is combed, we don't leave the house if he looks feral. etc.

8 years you have allowed your kids to have a booger wall?do you want a Parent of the Year award?

Scream at him?  Yeah, like raising my voice would really do him or my wall any benefit!  I suppose 's child is perfect and has no behavior problems.  Why are you hear ?  Socially inappropriate behaviors and behavior problems in general are like peanut butter and jelly for autistic children.  We are supposed to be here to provide postive feedback and share experiences.  seems to be here just to tell me and everyone else here that they are " shitty parents " .  Thanks !!  So glad you are among us!  We don't get enough of people telling us that.  We need it from our inner autism communities as well.  I vote for  in for booger-patrol since she seems to have all the answers.  Anyone else have

any behavior problems?  , MAYBE you should start a autistic collum and tell us all how to eliminate problem behaviors in 90 seconds or less.  Put it on DVD and sell them at Autism fairs and conventions.  I'm so glad we all ran into you.  I've been waiting for 8 years to finally meet someone with all the answers and now I've found YOU. 

 

To: autism-aspergers

Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:37:28 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours 

Well that might sound sick but why not if nobody stops them. Moms need to really scream at inappropriate behavior I think involving bodily fluids and such.Carolyn Ponzio wrote:> >

> me either.>> I feel nauseous just thinking about it.> I be the same kids probably wipe their asses on the wallpaper too.>> On 15 June 2011 10:30, Carolyn <charper777@...

> > wrote:>> There is no way I would allow a booger wall. IMO that is yukky! Got to

> be some sort of discipline to stop that behavior, nip it in the bid> somehow. How about, " Nooooooo don't put that booger there! " in

a> really> angry disapproving tone of voice with Kleenex in hand. Seems I've done> that before but only when it was on a finger, didn't make it to a> wall.> I was too quick.

> Carolyn>> Ponzio wrote:> >> > I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out of certain> > annoying behaviours?> >> > reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they can't get their

> kids> > to comb their hair and the same kids wipes boogers on a " booger> wall " .> > pretty sure they are now 16.> >> > If my kids do anything that I find socially unacceptable and

> annoying,> > I doubt it will take me 16 years to break them out of that> behaviour.> > just because they have autism does not mean you let them get> away with> > everything. that's just shitty

parenting.> > also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to get them to> > change their behaviour.> > don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.> >>>

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jenn! Nice to know that there are some people out there in internet world that have compassion and are on this forum to support one another. If I could break him of the booger habit, don't you think I would have? Ummm, yeah! How about the kids that chew on their shirts? put books in their mouth? bite their nails? pick the skin around their nails? chip paint off the walls? chip wood from their wooden floors? suck their spit through their teeth? pop bubble gum too loud? eat with their mouth open? Write down every problem you have and send it to because only SHE has the answer. I think she deserves a round of applause.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:49:29 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

I feel like I need to speak up on this and defend . One thing I have learned from my son's Psychologist is this. While u need to teach autistic kids appropriate behavior, A LOT of times they will still revert back to their old habits. No matter how hard u try, many will often do this. Does that mean u shouldn't keep trying to teach the that behavior is not appropriate? Nope! But it isn't the parents fault if they do whatever they can to teach their child that something is inappropriate, and they still revert back to it time and time again. I think is trying to do whatever she can to help her son learn appropriate behavior. {{{HUGS}}} .

Jenn

There is no way I would allow a booger wall. IMO that is yukky! Got tobe some sort of discipline to stop that behavior, nip it in the bidsomehow. How about, "Nooooooo don't put that booger there!" in a reallyangry disapproving tone of voice with Kleenex in hand. Seems I've donethat before but only when it was on a finger, didn't make it to a wall.I was too quick.Carolyn

Ponzio wrote:>> I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out of certain> annoying behaviours?>> reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they can't get their kids> to comb their hair and the same kids wipes boogers on a "booger wall".> pretty sure they are now 16.>> If my kids do anything that I find socially unacceptable and annoying,> I doubt it will take me 16 years to break them out of that behaviour.> just because they have autism does not mean you let them get away with> everything. that's just shitty parenting.> also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to get them to> change their behaviour.> don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.>------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jenn! Nice to know that there are some people out there in internet world that have compassion and are on this forum to support one another. If I could break him of the booger habit, don't you think I would have? Ummm, yeah! How about the kids that chew on their shirts? put books in their mouth? bite their nails? pick the skin around their nails? chip paint off the walls? chip wood from their wooden floors? suck their spit through their teeth? pop bubble gum too loud? eat with their mouth open? Write down every problem you have and send it to because only SHE has the answer. I think she deserves a round of applause.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:49:29 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

I feel like I need to speak up on this and defend . One thing I have learned from my son's Psychologist is this. While u need to teach autistic kids appropriate behavior, A LOT of times they will still revert back to their old habits. No matter how hard u try, many will often do this. Does that mean u shouldn't keep trying to teach the that behavior is not appropriate? Nope! But it isn't the parents fault if they do whatever they can to teach their child that something is inappropriate, and they still revert back to it time and time again. I think is trying to do whatever she can to help her son learn appropriate behavior. {{{HUGS}}} .

Jenn

There is no way I would allow a booger wall. IMO that is yukky! Got tobe some sort of discipline to stop that behavior, nip it in the bidsomehow. How about, "Nooooooo don't put that booger there!" in a reallyangry disapproving tone of voice with Kleenex in hand. Seems I've donethat before but only when it was on a finger, didn't make it to a wall.I was too quick.Carolyn

Ponzio wrote:>> I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out of certain> annoying behaviours?>> reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they can't get their kids> to comb their hair and the same kids wipes boogers on a "booger wall".> pretty sure they are now 16.>> If my kids do anything that I find socially unacceptable and annoying,> I doubt it will take me 16 years to break them out of that behaviour.> just because they have autism does not mean you let them get away with> everything. that's just shitty parenting.> also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to get them to> change their behaviour.> don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.>------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

I think you're only getting defensive as I have hit a nerve and you know what I am saying makes sense. back down. focus. admit that you are wrong.

Thanks Jenn!  Nice to know that there are some people out there in internet world that have compassion and are on this forum to support one another.  If I could break him of the booger habit, don't you think I would have?  Ummm, yeah!  How about the kids that chew on their shirts?  put books in their mouth?  bite their nails?  pick the skin around their nails?  chip paint off the walls?  chip wood from their wooden floors?  suck their spit through their teeth?  pop bubble gum too loud?  eat with their mouth open?  Write down every problem you have and send it to because only SHE has the answer.  I think she deserves a round of applause. 

 

To: autism-aspergers

Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:49:29 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

 

I feel like I need to speak up on this and defend . One thing I have learned from my son's Psychologist is this. While u need to teach autistic kids appropriate behavior, A LOT of times they will still revert back to their old habits. No matter how hard u try, many will often do this. Does that mean u shouldn't keep trying to teach the that behavior is not appropriate? Nope! But it isn't the parents fault if they do whatever they can to teach their child that something is inappropriate, and they still revert back to it time and time again. I think is trying to do whatever she can to help her son learn appropriate behavior. {{{HUGS}}} .

 

Jenn

There is no way I would allow a booger wall. IMO that is yukky! Got tobe some sort of discipline to stop that behavior, nip it in the bid

somehow. How about, " Nooooooo don't put that booger there! " in a reallyangry disapproving tone of voice with Kleenex in hand. Seems I've donethat before but only when it was on a finger, didn't make it to a wall.

I was too quick.Carolyn

Ponzio wrote:>> I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out of certain> annoying behaviours?>> reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they can't get their kids

> to comb their hair and the same kids wipes boogers on a " booger wall " .> pretty sure they are now 16.>> If my kids do anything that I find socially unacceptable and annoying,> I doubt it will take me 16 years to break them out of that behaviour.

> just because they have autism does not mean you let them get away with> everything. that's just shitty parenting.> also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to get them to> change their behaviour.

> don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.>------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

I think you're only getting defensive as I have hit a nerve and you know what I am saying makes sense. back down. focus. admit that you are wrong.

Thanks Jenn!  Nice to know that there are some people out there in internet world that have compassion and are on this forum to support one another.  If I could break him of the booger habit, don't you think I would have?  Ummm, yeah!  How about the kids that chew on their shirts?  put books in their mouth?  bite their nails?  pick the skin around their nails?  chip paint off the walls?  chip wood from their wooden floors?  suck their spit through their teeth?  pop bubble gum too loud?  eat with their mouth open?  Write down every problem you have and send it to because only SHE has the answer.  I think she deserves a round of applause. 

 

To: autism-aspergers

Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:49:29 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

 

I feel like I need to speak up on this and defend . One thing I have learned from my son's Psychologist is this. While u need to teach autistic kids appropriate behavior, A LOT of times they will still revert back to their old habits. No matter how hard u try, many will often do this. Does that mean u shouldn't keep trying to teach the that behavior is not appropriate? Nope! But it isn't the parents fault if they do whatever they can to teach their child that something is inappropriate, and they still revert back to it time and time again. I think is trying to do whatever she can to help her son learn appropriate behavior. {{{HUGS}}} .

 

Jenn

There is no way I would allow a booger wall. IMO that is yukky! Got tobe some sort of discipline to stop that behavior, nip it in the bid

somehow. How about, " Nooooooo don't put that booger there! " in a reallyangry disapproving tone of voice with Kleenex in hand. Seems I've donethat before but only when it was on a finger, didn't make it to a wall.

I was too quick.Carolyn

Ponzio wrote:>> I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out of certain> annoying behaviours?>> reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they can't get their kids

> to comb their hair and the same kids wipes boogers on a " booger wall " .> pretty sure they are now 16.>> If my kids do anything that I find socially unacceptable and annoying,> I doubt it will take me 16 years to break them out of that behaviour.

> just because they have autism does not mean you let them get away with> everything. that's just shitty parenting.> also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to get them to> change their behaviour.

> don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.>------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Correct me if I'm wrong friends? But I'd rather have a booger wall than a boy that beats up on his sister! No, if you can read I said he's been doing this for two years. What the ____ is your problem?

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:52:23 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

oh and my son does a lot that annoys the crap out of me. hitting, kicking, biting his sister and brother. he has frequent meltdowns, he wants his own way all the time, is impatient, is demanding. the list goes on and on. he is not perfect. don't get me wrong. but his boogers are binned not spread on walls. his hair is combed, we don't leave the house if he looks feral. etc.

8 years you have allowed your kids to have a booger wall? do you want a Parent of the Year award?

Scream at him? Yeah, like raising my voice would really do him or my wall any benefit! I suppose 's child is perfect and has no behavior problems. Why are you hear ? Socially inappropriate behaviors and behavior problems in general are like peanut butter and jelly for autistic children. We are supposed to be here to provide postive feedback and share experiences. seems to be here just to tell me and everyone else here that they are "shitty parents". Thanks !! So glad you are among us! We don't get enough of people telling us that. We need it from our inner autism communities as well. I vote for in for booger-patrol since she seems to have all the answers. Anyone else have any behavior problems? , MAYBE you should start a autistic collum and tell us all how to eliminate problem behaviors in 90 seconds or

less. Put it on DVD and sell them at Autism fairs and conventions. I'm so glad we all ran into you. I've been waiting for 8 years to finally meet someone with all the answers and now I've found YOU.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:37:28 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

Well that might sound sick but why not if nobody stops them. Moms need to really scream at inappropriate behavior I think involving bodily fluids and such.Carolyn Ponzio wrote:> >> me either.>> I feel nauseous just thinking about it.> I be the same kids probably wipe their asses on the wallpaper too.>> On 15 June 2011 10:30, Carolyn > wrote:>> There is no way I would allow a booger wall. IMO that is yukky! Got to> be some sort of discipline to stop that behavior, nip it in the bid> somehow. How about, "Nooooooo don't put that booger there!" in

a> really> angry disapproving tone of voice with Kleenex in hand. Seems I've done> that before but only when it was on a finger, didn't make it to a> wall.> I was too quick.> Carolyn>> Ponzio wrote:> >> > I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out of certain> > annoying behaviours?> >> > reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they can't get their> kids> > to comb their hair and the same kids wipes boogers on a "booger> wall".> > pretty sure they are now 16.> >> > If my kids do anything that I find socially unacceptable and> annoying,> > I doubt it will take me 16 years to break them out of that> behaviour.> > just because they have autism does not mean you let them get> away with> > everything. that's just shitty

parenting.> > also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to get them to> > change their behaviour.> > don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.> >>>> >

[Guest guest]

Correct me if I'm wrong friends? But I'd rather have a booger wall than a boy that beats up on his sister! No, if you can read I said he's been doing this for two years. What the ____ is your problem?

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:52:23 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

oh and my son does a lot that annoys the crap out of me. hitting, kicking, biting his sister and brother. he has frequent meltdowns, he wants his own way all the time, is impatient, is demanding. the list goes on and on. he is not perfect. don't get me wrong. but his boogers are binned not spread on walls. his hair is combed, we don't leave the house if he looks feral. etc.

8 years you have allowed your kids to have a booger wall? do you want a Parent of the Year award?

Scream at him? Yeah, like raising my voice would really do him or my wall any benefit! I suppose 's child is perfect and has no behavior problems. Why are you hear ? Socially inappropriate behaviors and behavior problems in general are like peanut butter and jelly for autistic children. We are supposed to be here to provide postive feedback and share experiences. seems to be here just to tell me and everyone else here that they are "shitty parents". Thanks !! So glad you are among us! We don't get enough of people telling us that. We need it from our inner autism communities as well. I vote for in for booger-patrol since she seems to have all the answers. Anyone else have any behavior problems? , MAYBE you should start a autistic collum and tell us all how to eliminate problem behaviors in 90 seconds or

less. Put it on DVD and sell them at Autism fairs and conventions. I'm so glad we all ran into you. I've been waiting for 8 years to finally meet someone with all the answers and now I've found YOU.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:37:28 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

Well that might sound sick but why not if nobody stops them. Moms need to really scream at inappropriate behavior I think involving bodily fluids and such.Carolyn Ponzio wrote:> >> me either.>> I feel nauseous just thinking about it.> I be the same kids probably wipe their asses on the wallpaper too.>> On 15 June 2011 10:30, Carolyn > wrote:>> There is no way I would allow a booger wall. IMO that is yukky! Got to> be some sort of discipline to stop that behavior, nip it in the bid> somehow. How about, "Nooooooo don't put that booger there!" in

a> really> angry disapproving tone of voice with Kleenex in hand. Seems I've done> that before but only when it was on a finger, didn't make it to a> wall.> I was too quick.> Carolyn>> Ponzio wrote:> >> > I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out of certain> > annoying behaviours?> >> > reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they can't get their> kids> > to comb their hair and the same kids wipes boogers on a "booger> wall".> > pretty sure they are now 16.> >> > If my kids do anything that I find socially unacceptable and> annoying,> > I doubt it will take me 16 years to break them out of that> behaviour.> > just because they have autism does not mean you let them get> away with> > everything. that's just shitty

parenting.> > also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to get them to> > change their behaviour.> > don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.> >>>> >

[Guest guest]

I have a problem with you making excuses for your shitty parenting. grow up.

Correct me if I'm wrong friends?  But I'd rather have a booger wall than a boy that beats up on his sister!  No, if you can read I said he's been doing this for two years.  What the ____ is your problem?

 

To: autism-aspergers

Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:52:23 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

 

oh and my son does a lot that annoys the crap out of me. hitting, kicking, biting his sister and brother. he has frequent meltdowns, he wants his own way all the time, is impatient, is demanding. the list goes on and on. he is not perfect. don't get me wrong. but his boogers are binned not spread on walls. his hair is combed, we don't leave the house if he looks feral. etc.

8 years you have allowed your kids to have a booger wall? do you want a Parent of the Year award?

Scream at him?  Yeah, like raising my voice would really do him or my wall any benefit!  I suppose 's child is perfect and has no behavior problems.  Why are you hear ?  Socially inappropriate behaviors and behavior problems in general are like peanut butter and jelly for autistic children.  We are supposed to be here to provide postive feedback and share experiences.  seems to be here just to tell me and everyone else here that they are " shitty parents " .  Thanks !!  So glad you are among us!  We don't get enough of people telling us that.  We need it from our inner autism communities as well.  I vote for  in for booger-patrol since she seems to have all the answers.  Anyone else have any behavior problems?  , MAYBE you should start a autistic collum and tell us all how to eliminate problem behaviors in 90 seconds or

less.  Put it on DVD and sell them at Autism fairs and conventions.  I'm so glad we all ran into you.  I've been waiting for 8 years to finally meet someone with all the answers and now I've found YOU. 

 

To: autism-aspergers

Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:37:28 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

 

Well that might sound sick but why not if nobody stops them. Moms need to really scream at inappropriate behavior I think involving bodily fluids and such.Carolyn Ponzio wrote:> >

> me either.>> I feel nauseous just thinking about it.> I be the same kids probably wipe their asses on the wallpaper too.>> On 15 June 2011 10:30, Carolyn <charper777@...

> > wrote:>> There is no way I would allow a booger wall. IMO that is yukky! Got to

> be some sort of discipline to stop that behavior, nip it in the bid> somehow. How about, " Nooooooo don't put that booger there! " in

a> really> angry disapproving tone of voice with Kleenex in hand. Seems I've done> that before but only when it was on a finger, didn't make it to a> wall.> I was too quick.

> Carolyn>> Ponzio wrote:> >> > I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out of certain> > annoying behaviours?> >> > reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they can't get their

> kids> > to comb their hair and the same kids wipes boogers on a " booger> wall " .> > pretty sure they are now 16.> >> > If my kids do anything that I find socially unacceptable and

> annoying,> > I doubt it will take me 16 years to break them out of that> behaviour.> > just because they have autism does not mean you let them get> away with> > everything. that's just shitty

parenting.> > also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to get them to> > change their behaviour.> > don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.> >>>

> >

[Guest guest]

I have a problem with you making excuses for your shitty parenting. grow up.

Correct me if I'm wrong friends?  But I'd rather have a booger wall than a boy that beats up on his sister!  No, if you can read I said he's been doing this for two years.  What the ____ is your problem?

 

To: autism-aspergers

Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:52:23 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

 

oh and my son does a lot that annoys the crap out of me. hitting, kicking, biting his sister and brother. he has frequent meltdowns, he wants his own way all the time, is impatient, is demanding. the list goes on and on. he is not perfect. don't get me wrong. but his boogers are binned not spread on walls. his hair is combed, we don't leave the house if he looks feral. etc.

8 years you have allowed your kids to have a booger wall? do you want a Parent of the Year award?

Scream at him?  Yeah, like raising my voice would really do him or my wall any benefit!  I suppose 's child is perfect and has no behavior problems.  Why are you hear ?  Socially inappropriate behaviors and behavior problems in general are like peanut butter and jelly for autistic children.  We are supposed to be here to provide postive feedback and share experiences.  seems to be here just to tell me and everyone else here that they are " shitty parents " .  Thanks !!  So glad you are among us!  We don't get enough of people telling us that.  We need it from our inner autism communities as well.  I vote for  in for booger-patrol since she seems to have all the answers.  Anyone else have any behavior problems?  , MAYBE you should start a autistic collum and tell us all how to eliminate problem behaviors in 90 seconds or

less.  Put it on DVD and sell them at Autism fairs and conventions.  I'm so glad we all ran into you.  I've been waiting for 8 years to finally meet someone with all the answers and now I've found YOU. 

 

To: autism-aspergers

Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:37:28 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

 

Well that might sound sick but why not if nobody stops them. Moms need to really scream at inappropriate behavior I think involving bodily fluids and such.Carolyn Ponzio wrote:> >

> me either.>> I feel nauseous just thinking about it.> I be the same kids probably wipe their asses on the wallpaper too.>> On 15 June 2011 10:30, Carolyn <charper777@...

> > wrote:>> There is no way I would allow a booger wall. IMO that is yukky! Got to

> be some sort of discipline to stop that behavior, nip it in the bid> somehow. How about, " Nooooooo don't put that booger there! " in

a> really> angry disapproving tone of voice with Kleenex in hand. Seems I've done> that before but only when it was on a finger, didn't make it to a> wall.> I was too quick.

> Carolyn>> Ponzio wrote:> >> > I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out of certain> > annoying behaviours?> >> > reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they can't get their

> kids> > to comb their hair and the same kids wipes boogers on a " booger> wall " .> > pretty sure they are now 16.> >> > If my kids do anything that I find socially unacceptable and

> annoying,> > I doubt it will take me 16 years to break them out of that> behaviour.> > just because they have autism does not mean you let them get> away with> > everything. that's just shitty

parenting.> > also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to get them to> > change their behaviour.> > don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.> >>>

> >

[Guest guest]

See people, even she will tell you that she knows it all No, you struck my nerves because I cannot believe what a female dog you are!

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:59:32 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

I think you're only getting defensive as I have hit a nerve and you know what I am saying makes sense. back down. focus. admit that you are wrong.

Thanks Jenn! Nice to know that there are some people out there in internet world that have compassion and are on this forum to support one another. If I could break him of the booger habit, don't you think I would have? Ummm, yeah! How about the kids that chew on their shirts? put books in their mouth? bite their nails? pick the skin around their nails? chip paint off the walls? chip wood from their wooden floors? suck their spit through their teeth? pop bubble gum too loud? eat with their mouth open? Write down every problem you have and send it to because only SHE has the answer. I think she deserves a round of applause.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:49:29 PM Subject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

I feel like I need to speak up on this and defend . One thing I have learned from my son's Psychologist is this. While u need to teach autistic kids appropriate behavior, A LOT of times they will still revert back to their old habits. No matter how hard u try, many will often do this. Does that mean u shouldn't keep trying to teach the that behavior is not appropriate? Nope! But it isn't the parents fault if they do whatever they can to teach their child that something is inappropriate, and they still revert back to it time and time again. I think is trying to do whatever she can to help her son learn appropriate behavior. {{{HUGS}}} .

Jenn

There is no way I would allow a booger wall. IMO that is yukky! Got tobe some sort of discipline to stop that behavior, nip it in the bidsomehow. How about, "Nooooooo don't put that booger there!" in a reallyangry disapproving tone of voice with Kleenex in hand. Seems I've donethat before but only when it was on a finger, didn't make it to a wall.I was too quick.Carolyn

Ponzio wrote:>> I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out of certain> annoying behaviours?>> reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they can't get their kids> to comb their hair and the same kids wipes boogers on a "booger wall".> pretty sure they are now 16.>> If my kids do anything that I find socially unacceptable and annoying,> I doubt it will take me 16 years to break them out of that behaviour.> just because they have autism does not mean you let them get away with> everything. that's just shitty parenting.> also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to get them to> change their behaviour.> don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.>------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

See people, even she will tell you that she knows it all No, you struck my nerves because I cannot believe what a female dog you are!

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:59:32 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

I think you're only getting defensive as I have hit a nerve and you know what I am saying makes sense. back down. focus. admit that you are wrong.

Thanks Jenn! Nice to know that there are some people out there in internet world that have compassion and are on this forum to support one another. If I could break him of the booger habit, don't you think I would have? Ummm, yeah! How about the kids that chew on their shirts? put books in their mouth? bite their nails? pick the skin around their nails? chip paint off the walls? chip wood from their wooden floors? suck their spit through their teeth? pop bubble gum too loud? eat with their mouth open? Write down every problem you have and send it to because only SHE has the answer. I think she deserves a round of applause.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:49:29 PM Subject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

I feel like I need to speak up on this and defend . One thing I have learned from my son's Psychologist is this. While u need to teach autistic kids appropriate behavior, A LOT of times they will still revert back to their old habits. No matter how hard u try, many will often do this. Does that mean u shouldn't keep trying to teach the that behavior is not appropriate? Nope! But it isn't the parents fault if they do whatever they can to teach their child that something is inappropriate, and they still revert back to it time and time again. I think is trying to do whatever she can to help her son learn appropriate behavior. {{{HUGS}}} .

Jenn

There is no way I would allow a booger wall. IMO that is yukky! Got tobe some sort of discipline to stop that behavior, nip it in the bidsomehow. How about, "Nooooooo don't put that booger there!" in a reallyangry disapproving tone of voice with Kleenex in hand. Seems I've donethat before but only when it was on a finger, didn't make it to a wall.I was too quick.Carolyn

Ponzio wrote:>> I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out of certain> annoying behaviours?>> reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they can't get their kids> to comb their hair and the same kids wipes boogers on a "booger wall".> pretty sure they are now 16.>> If my kids do anything that I find socially unacceptable and annoying,> I doubt it will take me 16 years to break them out of that behaviour.> just because they have autism does not mean you let them get away with> everything. that's just shitty parenting.> also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to get them to> change their behaviour.> don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.>------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

takes one to know one. bitch

See people, even she will tell you that she knows it all   No, you struck my nerves because I cannot believe what a female dog you are!   

To: autism-aspergers

Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:59:32 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

 

I think you're only getting defensive as I have hit a nerve and you know what I am saying makes sense. back down. focus. admit that you are wrong.

Thanks Jenn!  Nice to know that there are some people out there in internet world that have compassion and are on this forum to support one another.  If I could break him of the booger habit, don't you think I would have?  Ummm, yeah!  How about the kids that chew on their shirts?  put books in their mouth?  bite their nails?  pick the skin around their nails?  chip paint off the walls?  chip wood from their wooden floors?  suck their spit through their teeth?  pop bubble gum too loud?  eat with their mouth open?  Write down every problem you have and send it to because only SHE has the answer.  I think she deserves a round of applause. 

 

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:49:29 PM Subject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours 

I feel like I need to speak up on this and defend . One thing I have learned from my son's Psychologist is this. While u need to teach autistic kids appropriate behavior, A LOT of times they will still revert back to their old habits. No matter how hard u try, many will often do this. Does that mean u shouldn't keep trying to teach the that behavior is not appropriate? Nope! But it isn't the parents fault if they do whatever they can to teach their child that something is inappropriate, and they still revert back to it time and time again. I think is trying to do whatever she can to help her son learn appropriate behavior. {{{HUGS}}} .

 

Jenn

There is no way I would allow a booger wall. IMO that is yukky! Got tobe some sort of discipline to stop that behavior, nip it in the bidsomehow. How about, " Nooooooo don't put that booger there! " in a really

angry disapproving tone of voice with Kleenex in hand. Seems I've donethat before but only when it was on a finger, didn't make it to a wall.I was too quick.Carolyn

Ponzio wrote:>> I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out of certain> annoying behaviours?>> reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they can't get their kids

> to comb their hair and the same kids wipes boogers on a " booger wall " .> pretty sure they are now 16.>> If my kids do anything that I find socially unacceptable and annoying,> I doubt it will take me 16 years to break them out of that behaviour.

> just because they have autism does not mean you let them get away with> everything. that's just shitty parenting.> also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to get them to> change their behaviour.

> don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.>------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

takes one to know one. bitch

See people, even she will tell you that she knows it all   No, you struck my nerves because I cannot believe what a female dog you are!   

To: autism-aspergers

Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:59:32 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

 

I think you're only getting defensive as I have hit a nerve and you know what I am saying makes sense. back down. focus. admit that you are wrong.

Thanks Jenn!  Nice to know that there are some people out there in internet world that have compassion and are on this forum to support one another.  If I could break him of the booger habit, don't you think I would have?  Ummm, yeah!  How about the kids that chew on their shirts?  put books in their mouth?  bite their nails?  pick the skin around their nails?  chip paint off the walls?  chip wood from their wooden floors?  suck their spit through their teeth?  pop bubble gum too loud?  eat with their mouth open?  Write down every problem you have and send it to because only SHE has the answer.  I think she deserves a round of applause. 

 

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:49:29 PM Subject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours 

I feel like I need to speak up on this and defend . One thing I have learned from my son's Psychologist is this. While u need to teach autistic kids appropriate behavior, A LOT of times they will still revert back to their old habits. No matter how hard u try, many will often do this. Does that mean u shouldn't keep trying to teach the that behavior is not appropriate? Nope! But it isn't the parents fault if they do whatever they can to teach their child that something is inappropriate, and they still revert back to it time and time again. I think is trying to do whatever she can to help her son learn appropriate behavior. {{{HUGS}}} .

 

Jenn

There is no way I would allow a booger wall. IMO that is yukky! Got tobe some sort of discipline to stop that behavior, nip it in the bidsomehow. How about, " Nooooooo don't put that booger there! " in a really

angry disapproving tone of voice with Kleenex in hand. Seems I've donethat before but only when it was on a finger, didn't make it to a wall.I was too quick.Carolyn

Ponzio wrote:>> I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out of certain> annoying behaviours?>> reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they can't get their kids

> to comb their hair and the same kids wipes boogers on a " booger wall " .> pretty sure they are now 16.>> If my kids do anything that I find socially unacceptable and annoying,> I doubt it will take me 16 years to break them out of that behaviour.

> just because they have autism does not mean you let them get away with> everything. that's just shitty parenting.> also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to get them to> change their behaviour.

> don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.>------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Whatever, you don't even know me! I must be the worlds worst parent for the simple fact and only thing she knows about me is that my 8 yr. old son w/ autism wipes his boogers on the wall before going to bed.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 9:00:40 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

I have a problem with you making excuses for your shitty parenting. grow up.

Correct me if I'm wrong friends? But I'd rather have a booger wall than a boy that beats up on his sister! No, if you can read I said he's been doing this for two years. What the ____ is your problem?

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:52:23 PM Subject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

oh and my son does a lot that annoys the crap out of me. hitting, kicking, biting his sister and brother. he has frequent meltdowns, he wants his own way all the time, is impatient, is demanding. the list goes on and on. he is not perfect. don't get me wrong. but his boogers are binned not spread on walls. his hair is combed, we don't leave the house if he looks feral. etc.

8 years you have allowed your kids to have a booger wall? do you want a Parent of the Year award?

Scream at him? Yeah, like raising my voice would really do him or my wall any benefit! I suppose 's child is perfect and has no behavior problems. Why are you hear ? Socially inappropriate behaviors and behavior problems in general are like peanut butter and jelly for autistic children. We are supposed to be here to provide postive feedback and share experiences. seems to be here just to tell me and everyone else here that they are "shitty parents". Thanks !! So glad you are among us! We don't get enough of people telling us that. We need it from our inner autism communities as well. I vote for in for booger-patrol since she seems to have all the answers. Anyone else have any behavior problems? , MAYBE you should start a autistic collum and tell us all how to eliminate problem behaviors in 90 seconds or

less. Put it on DVD and sell them at Autism fairs and conventions. I'm so glad we all ran into you. I've been waiting for 8 years to finally meet someone with all the answers and now I've found YOU.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:37:28 PM Subject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

Well that might sound sick but why not if nobody stops them. Moms need to really scream at inappropriate behavior I think involving bodily fluids and such.Carolyn Ponzio wrote:> >> me either.>> I feel nauseous just thinking about it.> I be the same kids probably wipe their asses on the wallpaper too.>> On 15 June 2011 10:30, Carolyn <charper777@...

> > wrote:>> There is no way I would allow a booger wall. IMO that is yukky! Got to> be some sort of discipline to stop that behavior, nip it in the bid> somehow. How about, "Nooooooo don't put that booger there!" in a> really> angry disapproving tone of voice with Kleenex in hand. Seems I've done> that before but only when it was on a finger, didn't make it to a> wall.> I was too quick.> Carolyn>> Ponzio wrote:> >> > I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out of certain> > annoying behaviours?> >> > reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they can't get their> kids> > to comb their hair and the same kids wipes

boogers on a "booger> wall".> > pretty sure they are now 16.> >> > If my kids do anything that I find socially unacceptable and> annoying,> > I doubt it will take me 16 years to break them out of that> behaviour.> > just because they have autism does not mean you let them get> away with> > everything. that's just shitty parenting.> > also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to get them to> > change their behaviour.> > don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.> >>>> >

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Thanks Jodie!

We have the same scenerio on the wall. We've washed and steralized the wall so many times that it looked like a gray rainbow streak on the light green wall b/c the paint was never the same. We finally moved his bed to repaint and left his bed after painting in another location. I used a high gloss paint this time that is washable friendly He has not re boogered the wall yet that I have noticed. It's only been a couple of weeks but he is still picking his nose in other locations and even at the (look away squimish ones) at the dinner table. We make him leave the table and go wash his hands and return when we are all done eating. If he picks his nose at the table he has to sit and watch us eat and then come to the table when we are all done. I excuse everyone but him and I sit together and I watch him eat b/c I don't want him to be completely alone. I remind

him that he couldn't eat with the family b/c he made a bad choice and picking your nose at the table while people are eating makes other people sick to their tummies and unable to finish their meal because the sight of boogies at the table makes their stomach sick. We sit together, just him and I about once a wk, sometimes twice. I think he'll eventally get it. Thanks for sharing. I appreciate your support! I haven't seen him do it in the car. He normally bites his nails in the car LOL He has always been oral! (sensory) It went from the bottle/ pacifier/ me to books/ toys, to fingers, etc.....always has SOMETHING in his mouth even now at age 8. He has even recently put shopping cart handles and wet floor signs and old ladies canes in his mouth! Yuck-o!

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 10:01:55 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours

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So you don't feel alone in all of this, I can sympathize with your situation. You know, I totally forget that my son went through something similar when he was younger until you brought up your son's situation. He also would do the "booger" thing in his bed when no one else was around. In the morning, if it was there I made him clean it up....ended up having to repaint the wall eventually due to all the cleaner to disinfect it! Also, he would sit in the back seat of the minivan, and put his boogers on the head rest in front of him. I didn't even know he did that until his little sister saw it one day and started screaming when she saw it...she was so grossed out. I then changed his location in the van so I could try to watch for that behavior when we were in the car, but of course I couldn't always keep my eyes on him and the road at the same time. Eventually, that behavior was stopped...constantly telling him how gross it was....the phrase

I like using with my son is "that is socially unacceptable behavior" and I still use that while I am trying to teach him social skills (he is now 16). He still has behaviors, and as someone else said...when one behavior is stopped another starts to occur. What to do, what to do....keep working on the behaviors, and as they change wait until he comes up with one that is not self injurious or "socially unacceptable." Keep plugging along and eventually your son will stop this behavior, my opinion is to make him clean it up all the time so he can see that it is not right. Good luck....and I hope I helped! Jodie

Thank you and !

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This really points to the need not to judge until you really understand. You, along with , had assumed it was 's fault, due to her incompetent parenting. It is not helpful for anyone to make that kind of judgment about someone else's situation.Sent from my iPad> Well that is good you make him clean it up. So it is a habit he cannot > help like nail biting. I didn't realize that. Hard to figure out what is > autism behavior and what is not though I guess. Seems to me that these > kids can learn some things they must not do autism or not, but guess > each kid is different huh.> Carolyn> > > R. Tucker wrote:>>

Carolyn,>> I don't think you understand. He does this while he's supposed to be >> asleep or going to bed. I'm not in his room to stop him. Yes I think >> it's yucky. Yes I make him clean it up. He has cleaned his wall many >> many times, but it's a habit just like biting your nails or chewing on >> a pencil, etc. He also picks paint off the wall! He is autistic >> people! Should I set up a booger surveillance video? Please!>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------->> *From:* Carolyn >> *To:* autism-aspergers >> *Sent:* Tue, June 14, 2011 8:30:16 PM>> *Subject:* Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours>> >> There is no way I would allow a booger wall. IMO that is yukky! Got to>> be some sort of discipline to stop that behavior, nip it in the bid>> somehow. How about, "Nooooooo don't put that booger there!" in a really>> angry disapproving tone of voice with Kleenex in hand. Seems I've done>> that before but only when it was on a finger, didn't make it to a wall.>> I was too quick.>> Carolyn>> >> Ponzio wrote:>>> >>> I was wondering how long does it take to break kids out of certain>>> annoying behaviours?>>> >>> reason I ask is someone here mentioned that they

can't get their kids>>> to comb their hair and the same kids wipes boogers on a "booger wall".>>> pretty sure they are now 16.>>> >>> If my kids do anything that I find socially unacceptable and annoying,>>> I doubt it will take me 16 years to break them out of that behaviour.>>> just because they have autism does not mean you let them get away with>>> everything. that's just shitty parenting.>>> also once a behaviour is ingrained it is much harder to get them to>>> change their behaviour.>>> don't give up on your kids, just keep trying.>>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------>> >> sit Your Group >>

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The fact is, as any parent of autisitic kids can tell you, some of these behaviours you find annoying now will continue no matter what you do. You will get them to stop one, then they start another, or go back to one they gave up years ago. There is a reason why parents of autistic kids get defensive and sometimes don't have as much patience as they would like to have. Wait until you have had a few more years dealing with this before you jump to the conclusion that things will go as you want them to, and if they don't it is because of bad parenting. With a lot of effort and persistence you can usually teach ASD kids to change their habits, but any parent who beleives they can change all of their kid's habits is going to be disappointed. I am 48, and there are habits I have been trying to break for decades. The idea that any of us are totally in control of our own lives - let alone our children's lives - is a myth. Louie is 31 and still will pick his nose and eat it if there's no tissue available or no one's watching. Or if he's nervous. Or if he's upset and doesn't want to melt down. I've tried to break him of it, as has his Dad, as has his behavioral therapist. It's not as bad as it used to be, but it's still around on and off. And I am a good parent, of two kids. Louie doesn't beat on people anymore, he has at least partial control of his temper..... but he still obsesses on his areas of expertise, he still yells and jumps up and down when upset, he still moans when nothing else is going on. And he probably always will. On the other hand, he's holding down a job that he's had for 5 years now, he helps deliver food for Meals on Wheels, he walks dogs and pets cats at the local animal shelter, does all his self care (including his laundry) and takes his turn at his house in the washing up after dinner. All things considered, his good points far outweigh his iffy ones, in our eyes as well as those professionals who work with him.I don't expect perfection. Perfection doesn't happen with humans, typical or autistic. BTW, I didn't see as looking at her son's behaviors as acceptable. I didn't see her making excuses. I don't see her boasting. And sometimes, the professionals are talking through their hats because they're not with the kid 24/7. And I think 's just as good a parent as anyone else here, trying her best to find ways of showing her son coping skills and socially acceptable behaviors. All we can ever do is try. The rest is up to our kids and their functional level. If your kids are at a higher functional level, good for them. But you can't judge all auties and their parents by that yardstick. It just doesn't work.Annie, who loves ya annie@..."Anything that happens enough times to irritate you will happen at least once more." ---- Tom Parkins you find that acceptable and are making excuses just because he's autistic. s' speech therapist has said any behaviour I find annoying now, he'll still be doing as a teen or adult if I don't nip it in the bud now. don't boast about gross stuff like that. I made no excuse, lady.� I�was only telling�people what my son's worst habbit is.� The fact that my son picks his nose and wipes his boogers on the wall says nothing about me.� It really doesn't say much about him other than he's FLIPPING AUTISTIC.��Get a clue lady!� � To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:28:40 PM Subject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours � just a parent like everyone else here. making excuses for your kids poor behaviour reflects on you. not on them.

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So true! Our kids may have similar issues, but they are also all different.

Jenn

 

Louie is 31 and still will pick his nose and eat it if there's no tissue available or no one's watching.  Or if he's nervous.  Or if he's upset and doesn't want to melt down.  I've tried to break him of it, as has his Dad, as has his behavioral therapist.  It's not as bad as it used to be, but it's still around on and off.  And I am a good parent, of two kids.  Louie doesn't beat on people anymore, he has at least partial control of his temper..... but he still obsesses on his areas of expertise, he still yells and jumps up and down when upset, he still moans when nothing else is going on.   And he probably always will.  On the other hand, he's holding down a job that he's had for 5 years now, he helps deliver food for Meals on Wheels, he walks dogs and pets cats at the local animal shelter, does all his self care (including his laundry) and takes his turn at his house in the washing up after dinner.  All things considered, his good points far outweigh his iffy ones, in our eyes as well as those professionals who work with him.

I don't expect perfection.  Perfection doesn't happen with humans, typical or autistic.  

BTW, I didn't see as looking at her son's behaviors as acceptable.  I didn't see  her making excuses.  I don't see her boasting.  And sometimes, the professionals are talking through their hats because they're not with the kid 24/7.  And I think 's just as good a parent as anyone else here, trying her best to find ways of showing her son coping skills and socially acceptable behaviors.  All we can ever do is try.  The rest is up to our kids and their functional level.  If your kids are at a higher functional level, good for them.  But you can't judge all auties and their parents by that yardstick.  It just doesn't work.

Annie, who loves ya                                     annie@... " Anything that happens enough times to irritate you will happen at least once more. "  ---- Tom Parkins

 

you find that acceptable and are making excuses just because he's autistic. s' speech therapist has said any behaviour I find annoying now, he'll still be doing as a teen or adult if I don't nip it in the bud now.

don't boast about gross stuff like that.

I made no excuse, lady.� I�was only telling�people what my son's worst habbit is.� The fact that my son picks his nose and wipes his boogers on the wall says nothing about me.� It really doesn't say much about him other than he's FLIPPING AUTISTIC.��Get a clue lady!�

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Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:28:40 PMSubject: Re: breaking kids out of certain behaviours�

just a parent like everyone else here.

making excuses for your kids poor behaviour reflects on you. not on them.