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i think this is a very interesting concept of trying a cancer medicaction for

chronic lyme infection....i wonder if this has been done? lyme can cause

cancer...wonder if there is a connection her to Novantrone? hhhmmm

cheryl

In a message dated 4/10/01 9:34:25 AM, larryy@... writes:

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Has anyone been given Novantrone infusions? If so, what results? I've

included an abstract confirming what was suspected in the etiology of Lyme,

i.e. the cetes hiding in the T cell and B cells. Novantrone is a

chemotherapy that kills T cells and B cells. I postulate that if the T

cells and B cells containing the cetes are killed the cetes are either

killed with the T cells and B cells or they are released to be killed by the

abx.

Please post any experience with Novantrone or any impute.

Thanks.

Larry NV

NOVANTRONE is given intravenously using a procedure called an intravenous

(IV) infusion. An IV infusion of NOVANTRONE is given once every 3 months

through a needle inserted into a vein in your hand or arm. IV infusion with

NOVANTRONE takes a short time to deliver- only 5 to 15 minutes.

NOVANTRONE should be given under the supervision of a doctor experienced in

using NOVANTRONE or similar drugs. It is usually given in the hospital or

doctor's office, but it can also be given in a special infusion center or

even at home.

Borrelia burgdorferi recovered from infected mammal cells (3/01).

Dorward and Larson in the March 2001 issue of Infection and Immunity

demonstrate that Bb spirochetes can adhere to mouse lymphocytes and that Bb

spirochetes with affinity for mouse lymphocytes can establish disseminated

infections in mice. This is the first study to demonstrate the attraction of

Bb to mammalian lymphocytes in vivo. The recovery of viable spirochetes in

this study from mouse B and T cells indicates that the spirochetes and the

lymphocytic cells are in intimate contact with one another in the mammal.

While previous work demonstrated that Bb spirochetes could target, adhrere

to, and invade primary human B and T lymphocytes in vitro, the exact nature

of the in vivo spirochete-lymphocytes interactions could not be demonstrated

by electron microscopy in this study; the same lymphocyte preparations from

the spleen and blood of infected mice did however produce active spirochetal

cultures. The authors speculate that visualization may not have been

possible due to a low number of spirochetes per ml. This study supports the

suggestion that cellular tropism and lymphocytic-Bb interactions may be

mechanisms of persistent infection and disease pathogenesis in the mammalian

host.

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I did hear of a case of someone who had lyme for many years, developed

cancer, was given chemo, and was cured on both diseases. I asked my doctor

about it and she said she was following a case where her patient had cancer

and was receiving chemo. She would know in a few months.

Irene

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Heart, Leukemia Warning for MS Drug Novantrone Heart Risks May Be Higher for Multiple Sclerosis Patients With Heart Problems

By Miranda HittiWebMD Medical News

Reviewed By Brunilda Nazario, MDon Wednesday, May 25, 2005

May 25, 2005 -- The FDA is warning doctors and multiple sclerosis (MS) patients about the risk of heart failure and leukemia from the MS drug Novantrone.

Patients may be more vulnerable if they have a history of heart disease or heart problems. Screening for heart failure should be done prior to starting treatment with Novantrone and prior to all doses administered, says the drug's maker, Serono.

Patients with heart failure should not receive Novantrone, the company says.

A Serono letter to doctors about Novantrone is posted on the FDA's web site. The letter includes a revised warning label, which has what the FDA calls "additional" and "supplemental" information about heart and leukemia risks.

About Novantrone

Novantrone is used to reduce neurological disability and/or the frequency of clinical relapses in patients with several types of MS, says Serono. Those conditions are secondary (chronic) progressive MS, progressive-relapsing MS, or worsening relapsing-remitting MS.

Novantrone is not indicated for patients with primary progressive MS, says Serono.

Heart Risks

"Diminished cardiac function may occur early on in treatment with Novantrone," says Serono's letter, citing postmarketing reports.

"Congestive heart failure, potentially fatal, may occur either during therapy with Novantrone or months to years after termination of therapy," says the revised label. It also says all patients should be carefully assessed for cardiac signs and symptoms -- such as shortness of breath, extreme fatigue with exertion, and leg swelling -- prior to the start of Novantrone therapy.

The label says heart risks may be higher in patients taking Novantrone who have current or past heart disease, those who have had (or are getting) radiation therapy to the chest, those who have previously taken cancer-fighting drugs that can affect the heart -- such as anthracyclines or anthracenediones -- and those who are also taking other drugs that could cause heart damage. Page: 1 | 2 Next: Risk of Treatment-Related Leukemia

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Artie is right about the Novantrone…it

is considered chemotherapy. They wanted me to try it but after doing my

homework, I decided against it. And then I found LDN---Yeaaaah!

Bob

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I decided not to do the Novantrone also because when I read up on it I didn't like what I read...so I went back to the Copaxone and LDN and I am doing fine with them together...Bob <bob@...> wrote: Artie is right about the Novantrone…it is considered chemotherapy. They wanted me to try it but after doing my homework, I decided against it. And then I found LDN---Yeaaaah! Bob

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