Re: Re: All this bible quotes WOW !!!!

[Guest guest]

Hi, well I guess you would have to be keeping up with all the posts for

the last few days to understand where this post fits in. Sometimes I

just read them all to see if they make sense. But I keep a journal and

sometimes read the whole thing from the beginning to see if my life

makes sense...just me..have years of them.

So to answer your question; I have said plenty about how this subject

has helped me with my loved one, in fact wrote one short paragraph below

about how it has helped me, the third one.

Seems to me that in a large group like this you are going to get a lot

of different views on a lot of different things. I personally cannot

stand that one about the gut, something in the gut, poison or something

causing autism, da, da, da. But I have never screamed at this person or

anybody else and tried to restrict them sharing what they feel will

help, and actually I do even still read these things about the gut, and

sometimes I even think for a minute; Hay maybe I have neglected to care

about my son's gut, maybe THAT is his problem!

But it is too late for us, he is 46 now and I don't have the energy,

besides he's on a food tube.

Peace!

Carolyn ;o)

Jcoopalla wrote:

>

> What does this post have to do with our loved ones that we are dealing

> with on the spectrum? Please keep these kind of posts private, between

> you and the person you are sharing your view with, not everyone!!!!!!!!

>

>

>

> Re: Re: All this bible quotes WOW !!!!

>

> Marilyn you are wrong about Christians needing to keep their faith

> secret! Christ DID tell us to shout it from the housetops and of course

> it is going to offend many many people, after all they did murder Jesus

> Christ Himself you will recall, and later on ALL of the disciples were

> murdered also by those who were offended back then. There is always

> going to be a war against the Gospel, always has been always will be.

>

> Nothing has changed in 2,000 years.

>

> I think it is fine for folks to share their faith from time to time as

> it applies to their personal lives and experiences. One thing to think

> about too is many people are searching for real HELP for themselves and

> their afflicted children. So is it right for those offended to block

> those searching I wonder?

>

> Something to ponder. I know Jesus Christ has brought me through some

> very hard trials quite amazing and unbelievable with my son's seizures

> and violent behaviors, etc. so I give all the credit to Him and am not

> ashamed to tell what helped me, or Who helped me in this case.

>

> I have no idea why this makes so many people mad, don't they want me or

> my son to be here! Wow.

>

> Carolyn

>

> marilyn wrote:

> >

> > Whatever happend to common decency and respect for other peoples

> > feelings? People in polite society for 100's of years have avoided

> > discussing politics or religion except with their closest friends and

> > family FOR EXACTLY THIS REASON--it's going to offend someone. Religion

> > should be shared with people you know face to face or know well. Not

> > in anonymous huge user groups that are dealing with medical issues,

> > not religion.

> >

> > Why is it Christ taught to do good deeds in secret, and yet all these

> > Christians insist on shouting " I'LL PRAY FOR YOU " from the rooftops,

> > even when the prayers were not requested?? That's just plain Rude. If

> > you feel compelled to pray for someones soul, nothings stopping you.

> > Just don't ANNOUNCE IT. I believe Christ said that those who announced

> > their good deeds to the world had already received their reward and

> > should not expect another in Heaven. It's those who do the quiet

> > things that will be lifted up.

> >

> > And just because someone doesn't believe in the Bible doesn't

> > necessarily make them " anti-religions " . you have no idea if they are

> > Shinto or Buddhist any of dozens of other religions that don't come

> > out of the Judeo-Christian format. But that doesn't necessarily mean

> > they have no spiritual beliefs. And even if they don't--that's their

> > personal choice.

> >

> > Did you know the Pledge of Allegiance did not contain " Under God "

> > until the 1950's? Did you know most of the Founding Fathers were

> > Agnostic or Humanists? The premise that we are a " Christian nation "

> > here is bogus and it's rude to push it on other people. If someone

> > wants to ask you about your beliefs, it's fine to share--but to force

> > them on someone unsolicited is downright rude.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > you anti religious types are just as bad. can't you just ignore the

> > posts

> > > that " offend " you.

> >

> >

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't feel angry.

Carolyn

herberkids3 wrote:

>

> Actually, it doesn't fit at all. It's people getting angry and

> straying as far off the topic of the board as they can.

>

>

> >

> > Hi, well I guess you would have to be keeping up with all the posts for

> > the last few days to understand where this post fits in.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Carolyn,It's not that we don't want you here. For me (I can only speak for me) it's that all your posts contain religion. It's not a little here and a little there, but it's EVERY post....or 99% of them. You may also be weaving in the autism bit, but it detracts from the autism. I know when you start to ramble about religion I think in my head, "Here she goes again." and it seems like you cannot help yourself. It's ok to be who you are consumed in your faith, but the post should be 99% about children in general or children with autism IMO. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 11:26:05 AMSubject: Re: Re: All this bible quotes WOW !!!! Marilyn you are wrong about Christians needing to keep their faith secret! Christ DID tell us to shout it from the housetops and of course it is going to offend many many people, after all they did murder Jesus Christ Himself you will recall, and later on ALL of the disciples were murdered also by those who were offended back then. There is always going to be a war against the Gospel, always has been always will be.Nothing has changed in 2,000 years.I think it is fine for folks to share their faith from time to time as

it applies to their personal lives and experiences. One thing to think about too is many people are searching for real HELP for themselves and their afflicted children. So is it right for those offended to block those searching I wonder?Something to ponder. I know Jesus Christ has brought me through some very hard trials quite amazing and unbelievable with my son's seizures and violent behaviors, etc. so I give all the credit to Him and am not ashamed to tell what helped me, or Who helped me in this case.I have no idea why this makes so many people mad, don't they want me or my son to be here! Wow.Carolynmarilyn wrote:>> Whatever happend to common decency and respect for other peoples > feelings? People in polite society for 100's of years have avoided > discussing politics or religion except with their closest friends and > family FOR EXACTLY THIS

REASON--it's going to offend someone. Religion > should be shared with people you know face to face or know well. Not > in anonymous huge user groups that are dealing with medical issues, > not religion.>> Why is it Christ taught to do good deeds in secret, and yet all these > Christians insist on shouting "I'LL PRAY FOR YOU" from the rooftops, > even when the prayers were not requested?? That's just plain Rude. If > you feel compelled to pray for someones soul, nothings stopping you. > Just don't ANNOUNCE IT. I believe Christ said that those who announced > their good deeds to the world had already received their reward and > should not expect another in Heaven. It's those who do the quiet > things that will be lifted up.>> And just because someone doesn't believe in the Bible doesn't > necessarily make them "anti-religions". you have no idea if

they are > Shinto or Buddhist any of dozens of other religions that don't come > out of the Judeo-Christian format. But that doesn't necessarily mean > they have no spiritual beliefs. And even if they don't--that's their > personal choice.>> Did you know the Pledge of Allegiance did not contain "Under God" > until the 1950's? Did you know most of the Founding Fathers were > Agnostic or Humanists? The premise that we are a "Christian nation" > here is bogus and it's rude to push it on other people. If someone > wants to ask you about your beliefs, it's fine to share--but to force > them on someone unsolicited is downright rude.>> > >> > you anti religious types are just as bad. can't you just ignore the > posts> > that "offend" you.>> ------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Carolyn,It's not that we don't want you here. For me (I can only speak for me) it's that all your posts contain religion. It's not a little here and a little there, but it's EVERY post....or 99% of them. You may also be weaving in the autism bit, but it detracts from the autism. I know when you start to ramble about religion I think in my head, "Here she goes again." and it seems like you cannot help yourself. It's ok to be who you are consumed in your faith, but the post should be 99% about children in general or children with autism IMO. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 11:26:05 AMSubject: Re: Re: All this bible quotes WOW !!!! Marilyn you are wrong about Christians needing to keep their faith secret! Christ DID tell us to shout it from the housetops and of course it is going to offend many many people, after all they did murder Jesus Christ Himself you will recall, and later on ALL of the disciples were murdered also by those who were offended back then. There is always going to be a war against the Gospel, always has been always will be.Nothing has changed in 2,000 years.I think it is fine for folks to share their faith from time to time as

it applies to their personal lives and experiences. One thing to think about too is many people are searching for real HELP for themselves and their afflicted children. So is it right for those offended to block those searching I wonder?Something to ponder. I know Jesus Christ has brought me through some very hard trials quite amazing and unbelievable with my son's seizures and violent behaviors, etc. so I give all the credit to Him and am not ashamed to tell what helped me, or Who helped me in this case.I have no idea why this makes so many people mad, don't they want me or my son to be here! Wow.Carolynmarilyn wrote:>> Whatever happend to common decency and respect for other peoples > feelings? People in polite society for 100's of years have avoided > discussing politics or religion except with their closest friends and > family FOR EXACTLY THIS

REASON--it's going to offend someone. Religion > should be shared with people you know face to face or know well. Not > in anonymous huge user groups that are dealing with medical issues, > not religion.>> Why is it Christ taught to do good deeds in secret, and yet all these > Christians insist on shouting "I'LL PRAY FOR YOU" from the rooftops, > even when the prayers were not requested?? That's just plain Rude. If > you feel compelled to pray for someones soul, nothings stopping you. > Just don't ANNOUNCE IT. I believe Christ said that those who announced > their good deeds to the world had already received their reward and > should not expect another in Heaven. It's those who do the quiet > things that will be lifted up.>> And just because someone doesn't believe in the Bible doesn't > necessarily make them "anti-religions". you have no idea if

they are > Shinto or Buddhist any of dozens of other religions that don't come > out of the Judeo-Christian format. But that doesn't necessarily mean > they have no spiritual beliefs. And even if they don't--that's their > personal choice.>> Did you know the Pledge of Allegiance did not contain "Under God" > until the 1950's? Did you know most of the Founding Fathers were > Agnostic or Humanists? The premise that we are a "Christian nation" > here is bogus and it's rude to push it on other people. If someone > wants to ask you about your beliefs, it's fine to share--but to force > them on someone unsolicited is downright rude.>> > >> > you anti religious types are just as bad. can't you just ignore the > posts> > that "offend" you.>> ------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

You know, it's the whole "we vs them" attitude that causes these problems. And Christ did not tell anyone to shout anything from the rooftop. He did specifically state being rewarded for good deeds in this life means not in the next, because you've already had your reward. It's the quiet, secret good-deed-doers who will be rewarded. Can we please just stick to parenting and helping our children with ASD and leave both religion (regardless of denomination) and politics out of it? I am heartily sick to death of both subjects. It has NOTHING to do with being embarassed about my religion. It has everything to do with being sensitive to other peoples feelings, having common decency, respect and good manners. It's rude to insert your religious beliefs where they are

not wanted, no matter who you are or what you believe. MarilynTo: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2011 11:26 AMSubject: Re: Re: All this bible quotes

WOW !!!!

Marilyn you are wrong about Christians needing to keep their faith secret! Christ DID tell us to shout it from the housetops and of course it is going to offend many many people, after all they did murder Jesus Christ

[Guest guest]

Haha I have had that said before!

You should read my book, I write plenty about my life with autism in it.

It is called;

" Why Didn't Anybody Ever Tell Me About This! " A Mother's Search for a

Living God...by Carolyn Mannila Harper MS.

You may find it at Xulon publishing.

You are so right about me, I am consumed by my faith in Jesus Christ, He

consumes me, it is true!

I once had a guy talk to me about money, and I said, " Well let's pray, "

and he said, " D___ it! this is not about GOD it is about MOOOONEY!! "

You got me pegged right! I can't help it. Please have mercy..

Carolyn ;o))

R. Tucker wrote:

> Carolyn,

>

> It's not that we don't want you here. For me (I can only speak for me)

> it's that all your posts contain religion. It's not a little here and

> a little there, but it's EVERY post....or 99% of them. You may also be

> weaving in the autism bit, but it detracts from the autism. I know

> when you start to ramble about religion I think in my head, " Here she

> goes again. " and it seems like you cannot help yourself. It's ok to be

> who you are consumed in your faith, but the post should be 99% about

> children in general or children with autism IMO.

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> *From:* Carolyn

> *To:* autism-aspergers

> *Sent:* Thu, June 9, 2011 11:26:05 AM

> *Subject:* Re: Re: All this bible quotes WOW !!!!

>

> Marilyn you are wrong about Christians needing to keep their faith

> secret! Christ DID tell us to shout it from the housetops and of course

> it is going to offend many many people, after all they did murder Jesus

> Christ Himself you will recall, and later on ALL of the disciples were

> murdered also by those who were offended back then. There is always

> going to be a war against the Gospel, always has been always will be.

>

> Nothing has changed in 2,000 years.

>

> I think it is fine for folks to share their faith from time to time as

> it applies to their personal lives and experiences. One thing to think

> about too is many people are searching for real HELP for themselves and

> their afflicted children. So is it right for those offended to block

> those searching I wonder?

>

> Something to ponder. I know Jesus Christ has brought me through some

> very hard trials quite amazing and unbelievable with my son's seizures

> and violent behaviors, etc. so I give all the credit to Him and am not

> ashamed to tell what helped me, or Who helped me in this case.

>

> I have no idea why this makes so many people mad, don't they want me or

> my son to be here! Wow.

>

> Carolyn

>

> marilyn wrote:

> >

> > Whatever happend to common decency and respect for other peoples

> > feelings? People in polite society for 100's of years have avoided

> > discussing politics or religion except with their closest friends and

> > family FOR EXACTLY THIS REASON--it's going to offend someone. Religion

> > should be shared with people you know face to face or know well. Not

> > in anonymous huge user groups that are dealing with medical issues,

> > not religion.

> >

> > Why is it Christ taught to do good deeds in secret, and yet all these

> > Christians insist on shouting " I'LL PRAY FOR YOU " from the rooftops,

> > even when the prayers were not requested?? That's just plain Rude. If

> > you feel compelled to pray for someones soul, nothings stopping you.

> > Just don't ANNOUNCE IT. I believe Christ said that those who announced

> > their good deeds to the world had already received their reward and

> > should not expect another in Heaven. It's those who do the quiet

> > things that will be lifted up.

> >

> > And just because someone doesn't believe in the Bible doesn't

> > necessarily make them " anti-religions " . you have no idea if they are

> > Shinto or Buddhist any of dozens of other religions that don't come

> > out of the Judeo-Christian format. But that doesn't necessarily mean

> > they have no spiritual beliefs. And even if they don't--that's their

> > personal choice.

> >

> > Did you know the Pledge of Allegiance did not contain " Under God "

> > until the 1950's? Did you know most of the Founding Fathers were

> > Agnostic or Humanists? The premise that we are a " Christian nation "

> > here is bogus and it's rude to push it on other people. If someone

> > wants to ask you about your beliefs, it's fine to share--but to force

> > them on someone unsolicited is downright rude.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > you anti religious types are just as bad. can't you just ignore the

> > posts

> > > that " offend " you.

> >

> >

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

If you don't like to read about other peoples experiences just hit delete.

Everyone is entitled to say what they think. We all don't have to agree but we

can be respectful. The best thing to do is to hit delete if you don't agrree.

Have mercy on all of us because autism is a spectrum disorder so each child has

its own set of challenges so each parent or grnadparent does too. Good luck to

both carolyn and shannon.

Carolyn wrote:

>Haha I have had that said before!

>

>You should read my book, I write plenty about my life with autism in it.

>It is called;

> " Why Didn't Anybody Ever Tell Me About This! " A Mother's Search for a

>Living God...by Carolyn Mannila Harper MS.

>

>You may find it at Xulon publishing.

>

>You are so right about me, I am consumed by my faith in Jesus Christ, He

>consumes me, it is true!

>I once had a guy talk to me about money, and I said, " Well let's pray, "

>and he said, " D___ it! this is not about GOD it is about MOOOONEY!! "

>

>You got me pegged right! I can't help it. Please have mercy..

>

>Carolyn ;o))

>

> R. Tucker wrote:

>> Carolyn,

>>

>> It's not that we don't want you here. For me (I can only speak for me)

>> it's that all your posts contain religion. It's not a little here and

>> a little there, but it's EVERY post....or 99% of them. You may also be

>> weaving in the autism bit, but it detracts from the autism. I know

>> when you start to ramble about religion I think in my head, " Here she

>> goes again. " and it seems like you cannot help yourself. It's ok to be

>> who you are consumed in your faith, but the post should be 99% about

>> children in general or children with autism IMO.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> *From:* Carolyn

>> *To:* autism-aspergers

>> *Sent:* Thu, June 9, 2011 11:26:05 AM

>> *Subject:* Re: Re: All this bible quotes WOW !!!!

>>

>> Marilyn you are wrong about Christians needing to keep their faith

>> secret! Christ DID tell us to shout it from the housetops and of course

>> it is going to offend many many people, after all they did murder Jesus

>> Christ Himself you will recall, and later on ALL of the disciples were

>> murdered also by those who were offended back then. There is always

>> going to be a war against the Gospel, always has been always will be.

>>

>> Nothing has changed in 2,000 years.

>>

>> I think it is fine for folks to share their faith from time to time as

>> it applies to their personal lives and experiences. One thing to think

>> about too is many people are searching for real HELP for themselves and

>> their afflicted children. So is it right for those offended to block

>> those searching I wonder?

>>

>> Something to ponder. I know Jesus Christ has brought me through some

>> very hard trials quite amazing and unbelievable with my son's seizures

>> and violent behaviors, etc. so I give all the credit to Him and am not

>> ashamed to tell what helped me, or Who helped me in this case.

>>

>> I have no idea why this makes so many people mad, don't they want me or

>> my son to be here! Wow.

>>

>> Carolyn

>>

>> marilyn wrote:

>> >

>> > Whatever happend to common decency and respect for other peoples

>> > feelings? People in polite society for 100's of years have avoided

>> > discussing politics or religion except with their closest friends and

>> > family FOR EXACTLY THIS REASON--it's going to offend someone. Religion

>> > should be shared with people you know face to face or know well. Not

>> > in anonymous huge user groups that are dealing with medical issues,

>> > not religion.

>> >

>> > Why is it Christ taught to do good deeds in secret, and yet all these

>> > Christians insist on shouting " I'LL PRAY FOR YOU " from the rooftops,

>> > even when the prayers were not requested?? That's just plain Rude. If

>> > you feel compelled to pray for someones soul, nothings stopping you.

>> > Just don't ANNOUNCE IT. I believe Christ said that those who announced

>> > their good deeds to the world had already received their reward and

>> > should not expect another in Heaven. It's those who do the quiet

>> > things that will be lifted up.

>> >

>> > And just because someone doesn't believe in the Bible doesn't

>> > necessarily make them " anti-religions " . you have no idea if they are

>> > Shinto or Buddhist any of dozens of other religions that don't come

>> > out of the Judeo-Christian format. But that doesn't necessarily mean

>> > they have no spiritual beliefs. And even if they don't--that's their

>> > personal choice.

>> >

>> > Did you know the Pledge of Allegiance did not contain " Under God "

>> > until the 1950's? Did you know most of the Founding Fathers were

>> > Agnostic or Humanists? The premise that we are a " Christian nation "

>> > here is bogus and it's rude to push it on other people. If someone

>> > wants to ask you about your beliefs, it's fine to share--but to force

>> > them on someone unsolicited is downright rude.

>> >

>> >

>> > >

>> > > you anti religious types are just as bad. can't you just ignore the

>> > posts

>> > > that " offend " you.

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Carolyn, you remind me so much of my mother who passed away last year at age 64. She was unashamedly Christian and I'm sure offended people all the time with her incessant references to religion. Even at her memorial service, her cousin who officiated the service had to refer to how my mom always gave her opinion, whether you wanted to hear it or not. Although we all complained and rolled our eyes and sighed and moaned when she went on one of her tangents, I'm sure she blessed many people with good wisdom throughout the years. What I wouldn't give to hear her opinionated voice again!

I know you can't stop being you, and I just wanted to thank you for sharing so much experience with those of us who are only just beginning this journey.

Kiara

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 11:32:18 AMSubject: Re: Re: All this bible quotes WOW !!!!Haha I have had that said before!You should read my book, I write plenty about my life with autism in it. It is called;"Why Didn't Anybody Ever Tell Me About This!" A Mother's Search for a Living God...by Carolyn Mannila Harper MS.You may find it at Xulon publishing.You are so right about me, I am consumed by my faith in Jesus Christ, He consumes me, it is true!I once had a guy talk to me about money, and I said, "Well let's pray," and he said, "D___ it! this is not about GOD it is about MOOOONEY!!"You got me

pegged right! I can't help it. Please have mercy..Carolyn ;o)) R. Tucker wrote:> Carolyn,>> It's not that we don't want you here. For me (I can only speak for me) > it's that all your posts contain religion. It's not a little here and > a little there, but it's EVERY post....or 99% of them. You may also be > weaving in the autism bit, but it detracts from the autism. I know > when you start to ramble about religion I think in my head, "Here she > goes again." and it seems like you cannot help yourself. It's ok to be > who you are consumed in your faith, but the post should be 99% about > children in general or children with autism IMO.>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------> *From:* Carolyn > *To:* autism-aspergers > *Sent:* Thu, June 9, 2011 11:26:05 AM> *Subject:* Re: Re: All this bible quotes WOW !!!!>> Marilyn you are wrong about Christians needing to keep their faith> secret! Christ DID tell us to shout it from the housetops and of course> it is going to offend many many people, after all they did murder Jesus> Christ Himself you will recall, and later on ALL of the disciples were> murdered also by those who were offended back then. There is always> going to be a war against the Gospel, always has been always will be.>> Nothing has changed in 2,000 years.>> I think it is fine for folks to share their faith from time to time as>

it applies to their personal lives and experiences. One thing to think> about too is many people are searching for real HELP for themselves and> their afflicted children. So is it right for those offended to block> those searching I wonder?>> Something to ponder. I know Jesus Christ has brought me through some> very hard trials quite amazing and unbelievable with my son's seizures> and violent behaviors, etc. so I give all the credit to Him and am not> ashamed to tell what helped me, or Who helped me in this case.>> I have no idea why this makes so many people mad, don't they want me or> my son to be here! Wow.>> Carolyn>> marilyn wrote:> >> > Whatever happend to common decency and respect for other peoples> > feelings? People in polite society for 100's of years have avoided> > discussing politics or religion

except with their closest friends and> > family FOR EXACTLY THIS REASON--it's going to offend someone. Religion> > should be shared with people you know face to face or know well. Not> > in anonymous huge user groups that are dealing with medical issues,> > not religion.> >> > Why is it Christ taught to do good deeds in secret, and yet all these> > Christians insist on shouting "I'LL PRAY FOR YOU" from the rooftops,> > even when the prayers were not requested?? That's just plain Rude. If> > you feel compelled to pray for someones soul, nothings stopping you.> > Just don't ANNOUNCE IT. I believe Christ said that those who announced> > their good deeds to the world had already received their reward and> > should not expect another in Heaven. It's those who do the quiet> > things that will be lifted up.> >> >

And just because someone doesn't believe in the Bible doesn't> > necessarily make them "anti-religions". you have no idea if they are> > Shinto or Buddhist any of dozens of other religions that don't come> > out of the Judeo-Christian format. But that doesn't necessarily mean> > they have no spiritual beliefs. And even if they don't--that's their> > personal choice.> >> > Did you know the Pledge of Allegiance did not contain "Under God"> > until the 1950's? Did you know most of the Founding Fathers were> > Agnostic or Humanists? The premise that we are a "Christian nation"> > here is bogus and it's rude to push it on other people. If someone> > wants to ask you about your beliefs, it's fine to share--but to force> > them on someone unsolicited is downright rude.> >> > > > >> > > you anti religious types are just as bad. can't you just ignore the> > posts> > > that "offend" you.> >> >>>> ------------------------------------>>

[Guest guest]

That was very touching Kiara. You know it is a hard thing for me to

speak up as I have always been a very shy and self conscious person.

Really I never spoke at all in school for years and people thought

something was wrong with me. I remember the teachers talking to my mom.

But then I discovered writing and when I write I have no fear and no

self consciousness at all. It is like I am another person. Funny how God

works. Last Sunday night at our church we heard a video by

Stanley's son, Andy Stanley. We watch him on TV Sunday mornings and the

admonition he gave to us was that church people to get MORE bold.

He bawled us out for being stuck in our church houses and not telling

anybody!

To tell you the truth I do not understand why people get offended the

way they do, I really don't. When I was a young mother with three little

boys and all of a sudden my youngest son began to show signs of autism

and seizures I was desperate to find help but nobody would help me! All

they wanted me to do was drug him up and then send him away to an

institution. So I began my search for God and I found Him and He has

helped me! When I first met Him the first thought that came to me was I

was amazed that others had known about Him all along and didn't tell me

about Him! Why I named my book what I did, that was the thought that

came to me.

Christians are not supposed to be afraid of preaching the Gospel..

Carolyn ;o)

Kiara wrote:

> Carolyn, you remind me so much of my mother who passed away last year

> at age 64. She was unashamedly Christian and I'm sure offended people

> all the time with her incessant references to religion. Even at her

> memorial service, her cousin who officiated the service had to refer

> to how my mom always gave her opinion, whether you wanted to hear it

> or not. Although we all complained and rolled our eyes and sighed and

> moaned when she went on one of her tangents, I'm sure she blessed many

> people with good wisdom throughout the years. What I wouldn't give to

> hear her opinionated voice again!

> I know you can't stop being you, and I just wanted to thank you for

> sharing so much experience with those of us who are only just

> beginning this journey.

> Kiara

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> *From:* Carolyn

> *To:* autism-aspergers

> *Sent:* Thu, June 9, 2011 11:32:18 AM

> *Subject:* Re: Re: All this bible quotes WOW !!!!

>

> Haha I have had that said before!

>

> You should read my book, I write plenty about my life with autism in it.

> It is called;

> " Why Didn't Anybody Ever Tell Me About This! " A Mother's Search for a

> Living God...by Carolyn Mannila Harper MS.

>

> You may find it at Xulon publishing.

>

> You are so right about me, I am consumed by my faith in Jesus Christ, He

> consumes me, it is true!

> I once had a guy talk to me about money, and I said, " Well let's pray, "

> and he said, " D___ it! this is not about GOD it is about MOOOONEY!! "

>

> You got me pegged right! I can't help it. Please have mercy..

>

> Carolyn ;o))

>

> R. Tucker wrote:

> > Carolyn,

> >

> > It's not that we don't want you here. For me (I can only speak for me)

> > it's that all your posts contain religion. It's not a little here and

> > a little there, but it's EVERY post....or 99% of them. You may also be

> > weaving in the autism bit, but it detracts from the autism. I know

> > when you start to ramble about religion I think in my head, " Here she

> > goes again. " and it seems like you cannot help yourself. It's ok to be

> > who you are consumed in your faith, but the post should be 99% about

> > children in general or children with autism IMO.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > *From:* Carolyn >

> > *To:* autism-aspergers

> <mailto:autism-aspergers >

> > *Sent:* Thu, June 9, 2011 11:26:05 AM

> > *Subject:* Re: Re: All this bible quotes WOW !!!!

> >

> > Marilyn you are wrong about Christians needing to keep their faith

> > secret! Christ DID tell us to shout it from the housetops and of course

> > it is going to offend many many people, after all they did murder Jesus

> > Christ Himself you will recall, and later on ALL of the disciples were

> > murdered also by those who were offended back then. There is always

> > going to be a war against the Gospel, always has been always will be.

> >

> > Nothing has changed in 2,000 years.

> >

> > I think it is fine for folks to share their faith from time to time as

> > it applies to their personal lives and experiences. One thing to think

> > about too is many people are searching for real HELP for themselves and

> > their afflicted children. So is it right for those offended to block

> > those searching I wonder?

> >

> > Something to ponder. I know Jesus Christ has brought me through some

> > very hard trials quite amazing and unbelievable with my son's seizures

> > and violent behaviors, etc. so I give all the credit to Him and am not

> > ashamed to tell what helped me, or Who helped me in this case.

> >

> > I have no idea why this makes so many people mad, don't they want me or

> > my son to be here! Wow.

> >

> > Carolyn

> >

> > marilyn wrote:

> > >

> > > Whatever happend to common decency and respect for other peoples

> > > feelings? People in polite society for 100's of years have avoided

> > > discussing politics or religion except with their closest friends and

> > > family FOR EXACTLY THIS REASON--it's going to offend someone. Religion

> > > should be shared with people you know face to face or know well. Not

> > > in anonymous huge user groups that are dealing with medical issues,

> > > not religion.

> > >

> > > Why is it Christ taught to do good deeds in secret, and yet all these

> > > Christians insist on shouting " I'LL PRAY FOR YOU " from the rooftops,

> > > even when the prayers were not requested?? That's just plain Rude. If

> > > you feel compelled to pray for someones soul, nothings stopping you.

> > > Just don't ANNOUNCE IT. I believe Christ said that those who announced

> > > their good deeds to the world had already received their reward and

> > > should not expect another in Heaven. It's those who do the quiet

> > > things that will be lifted up.

> > >

> > > And just because someone doesn't believe in the Bible doesn't

> > > necessarily make them " anti-religions " . you have no idea if they are

> > > Shinto or Buddhist any of dozens of other religions that don't come

> > > out of the Judeo-Christian format. But that doesn't necessarily mean

> > > they have no spiritual beliefs. And even if they don't--that's their

> > > personal choice.

> > >

> > > Did you know the Pledge of Allegiance did not contain " Under God "

> > > until the 1950's? Did you know most of the Founding Fathers were

> > > Agnostic or Humanists? The premise that we are a " Christian nation "

> > > here is bogus and it's rude to push it on other people. If someone

> > > wants to ask you about your beliefs, it's fine to share--but to force

> > > them on someone unsolicited is downright rude.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > you anti religious types are just as bad. can't you just ignore the

> > > posts

> > > > that " offend " you.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

ugh!!!!!

* Re: Re: All this bible quotes WOW !!!!

> >

> > Marilyn you are wrong about Christians needing to keep their faith

> > secret! Christ DID tell us to shout it from the housetops and of course

> > it is going to offend many many people, after all they did murder Jesus

> > Christ Himself you will recall, and later on ALL of the disciples were

> > murdered also by those who were offended back then. There is always

> > going to be a war against the Gospel, always has been always will be.

> >

> > Nothing has changed in 2,000 years.

> >

> > I think it is fine for folks to share their faith from time to time as

> > it applies to their personal lives and experiences. One thing to think

> > about too is many people are searching for real HELP for themselves and

> > their afflicted children. So is it right for those offended to block

> > those searching I wonder?

> >

> > Something to ponder. I know Jesus Christ has brought me through some

> > very hard trials quite amazing and unbelievable with my son's seizures

> > and violent behaviors, etc. so I give all the credit to Him and am not

> > ashamed to tell what helped me, or Who helped me in this case.

> >

> > I have no idea why this makes so many people mad, don't they want me or

> > my son to be here! Wow.

> >

> > Carolyn

> >

> > marilyn wrote:

> > >

> > > Whatever happend to common decency and respect for other peoples

> > > feelings? People in polite society for 100's of years have avoided

> > > discussing politics or religion except with their closest friends and

> > > family FOR EXACTLY THIS REASON--it's going to offend someone. Religion

> > > should be shared with people you know face to face or know well. Not

> > > in anonymous huge user groups that are dealing with medical issues,

> > > not religion.

> > >

> > > Why is it Christ taught to do good deeds in secret, and yet all these

> > > Christians insist on shouting "I'LL PRAY FOR YOU" from the rooftops,

> > > even when the prayers were not requested?? That's just plain Rude. If

> > > you feel compelled to pray for someones soul, nothings stopping you.

> > > Just don't ANNOUNCE IT. I believe Christ said that those who announced

> > > their good deeds to the world had already received their reward and

> > > should not expect another in Heaven. It's those who do the quiet

> > > things that will be lifted up.

> > >

> > > And just because someone doesn't believe in the Bible doesn't

> > > necessarily make them "anti-religions". you have no idea if they are

> > > Shinto or Buddhist any of dozens of other religions that don't come

> > > out of the Judeo-Christian format. But that doesn't necessarily mean

> > > they have no spiritual beliefs. And even if they don't--that's their

> > > personal choice.

> > >

> > > Did you know the Pledge of Allegiance did not contain "Under God"

> > > until the 1950's? Did you know most of the Founding Fathers were

> > > Agnostic or Humanists? The premise that we are a "Christian nation"

> > > here is bogus and it's rude to push it on other people. If someone

> > > wants to ask you about your beliefs, it's fine to share--but to force

> > > them on someone unsolicited is downright rude.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > you anti religious types are just as bad. can't you just ignore the

> > > posts

> > > > that "offend" you.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

From my experience the best way to move on from a disagreement is to simply start a new thread or just simply stop responding. I am not going to weigh in on the facts of what has taken place, but as someone who truly appreciates the insights and connectons provided by these online support groups, I would like to find some common ground and appeal to everyone's sense that we have all heard enough from both sides of this debate. It has gotten long winded and petty and I for one would like to be open to sharing and helping those who are struggling right now with their kids' concerns.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 1:22:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: All this bible quotes WOW !!!!

ugh!!!!!

* Re: Re: All this bible quotes WOW !!!!

> >

> > Marilyn you are wrong about Christians needing to keep their faith

> > secret! Christ DID tell us to shout it from the housetops and of course

> > it is going to offend many many people, after all they did murder Jesus

> > Christ Himself you will recall, and later on ALL of the disciples were

> > murdered also by those who were offended back then. There is always

> > going to be a war against the Gospel, always has been always will be.

> >

> > Nothing has changed in 2,000 years.

> >

> > I think it is fine for folks to share their faith from time to time as

> > it applies to their personal lives and experiences. One thing to think

> > about too is many people are searching for real HELP for themselves and

> > their afflicted children. So is it right for those offended to block

> > those searching I wonder?

> >

> > Something to ponder. I know Jesus Christ has brought me through some

> > very hard trials quite amazing and unbelievable with my son's seizures

> > and violent behaviors, etc. so I give all the credit to Him and am not

> > ashamed to tell what helped me, or Who helped me in this case.

> >

> > I have no idea why this makes so many people mad, don't they want me or

> > my son to be here! Wow.

> >

> > Carolyn

> >

> > marilyn wrote:

> > >

> > > Whatever happend to common decency and respect for other peoples

> > > feelings? People in polite society for 100's of years have avoided

> > > discussing politics or religion except with their closest friends and

> > > family FOR EXACTLY THIS REASON--it's going to offend someone. Religion

> > > should be shared with people you know face to face or know well. Not

> > > in anonymous huge user groups that are dealing with medical issues,

> > > not religion.

> > >

> > > Why is it Christ taught to do good deeds in secret, and yet all these

> > > Christians insist on shouting "I'LL PRAY FOR YOU" from the rooftops,

> > > even when the prayers were not requested?? That's just plain Rude. If

> > > you feel compelled to pray for someones soul, nothings stopping you.

> > > Just don't ANNOUNCE IT. I believe Christ said that those who announced

> > > their good deeds to the world had already received their reward and

> > > should not expect another in Heaven. It's those who do the quiet

> > > things that will be lifted up.

> > >

> > > And just because someone doesn't believe in the Bible doesn't

> > > necessarily make them "anti-religions". you have no idea if they are

> > > Shinto or Buddhist any of dozens of other religions that don't come

> > > out of the Judeo-Christian format. But that doesn't necessarily mean

> > > they have no spiritual beliefs. And even if they don't--that's their

> > > personal choice.

> > >

> > > Did you know the Pledge of Allegiance did not contain "Under God"

> > > until the 1950's? Did you know most of the Founding Fathers were

> > > Agnostic or Humanists? The premise that we are a "Christian nation"

> > > here is bogus and it's rude to push it on other people. If someone

> > > wants to ask you about your beliefs, it's fine to share--but to force

> > > them on someone unsolicited is downright rude.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > you anti religious types are just as bad. can't you just ignore the

> > > posts

> > > > that "offend" you.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

From my experience the best way to move on from a disagreement is to simply start a new thread or just simply stop responding. I am not going to weigh in on the facts of what has taken place, but as someone who truly appreciates the insights and connectons provided by these online support groups, I would like to find some common ground and appeal to everyone's sense that we have all heard enough from both sides of this debate. It has gotten long winded and petty and I for one would like to be open to sharing and helping those who are struggling right now with their kids' concerns.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 1:22:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: All this bible quotes WOW !!!!

ugh!!!!!

* Re: Re: All this bible quotes WOW !!!!

> >

> > Marilyn you are wrong about Christians needing to keep their faith

> > secret! Christ DID tell us to shout it from the housetops and of course

> > it is going to offend many many people, after all they did murder Jesus

> > Christ Himself you will recall, and later on ALL of the disciples were

> > murdered also by those who were offended back then. There is always

> > going to be a war against the Gospel, always has been always will be.

> >

> > Nothing has changed in 2,000 years.

> >

> > I think it is fine for folks to share their faith from time to time as

> > it applies to their personal lives and experiences. One thing to think

> > about too is many people are searching for real HELP for themselves and

> > their afflicted children. So is it right for those offended to block

> > those searching I wonder?

> >

> > Something to ponder. I know Jesus Christ has brought me through some

> > very hard trials quite amazing and unbelievable with my son's seizures

> > and violent behaviors, etc. so I give all the credit to Him and am not

> > ashamed to tell what helped me, or Who helped me in this case.

> >

> > I have no idea why this makes so many people mad, don't they want me or

> > my son to be here! Wow.

> >

> > Carolyn

> >

> > marilyn wrote:

> > >

> > > Whatever happend to common decency and respect for other peoples

> > > feelings? People in polite society for 100's of years have avoided

> > > discussing politics or religion except with their closest friends and

> > > family FOR EXACTLY THIS REASON--it's going to offend someone. Religion

> > > should be shared with people you know face to face or know well. Not

> > > in anonymous huge user groups that are dealing with medical issues,

> > > not religion.

> > >

> > > Why is it Christ taught to do good deeds in secret, and yet all these

> > > Christians insist on shouting "I'LL PRAY FOR YOU" from the rooftops,

> > > even when the prayers were not requested?? That's just plain Rude. If

> > > you feel compelled to pray for someones soul, nothings stopping you.

> > > Just don't ANNOUNCE IT. I believe Christ said that those who announced

> > > their good deeds to the world had already received their reward and

> > > should not expect another in Heaven. It's those who do the quiet

> > > things that will be lifted up.

> > >

> > > And just because someone doesn't believe in the Bible doesn't

> > > necessarily make them "anti-religions". you have no idea if they are

> > > Shinto or Buddhist any of dozens of other religions that don't come

> > > out of the Judeo-Christian format. But that doesn't necessarily mean

> > > they have no spiritual beliefs. And even if they don't--that's their

> > > personal choice.

> > >

> > > Did you know the Pledge of Allegiance did not contain "Under God"

> > > until the 1950's? Did you know most of the Founding Fathers were

> > > Agnostic or Humanists? The premise that we are a "Christian nation"

> > > here is bogus and it's rude to push it on other people. If someone

> > > wants to ask you about your beliefs, it's fine to share--but to force

> > > them on someone unsolicited is downright rude.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > you anti religious types are just as bad. can't you just ignore the

> > > posts

> > > > that "offend" you.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I am not super religious, but I do have faith and beliefs. I am not sure why it

is such a big deal for some of you to hear others talking a out religion. I am

all for anything anyone has to offer, and keep an open mind. It does not hurt at

all to have beliefs when the medical community cannot offer help to a sick

child. What ever you through, I say go for it!

Sent from my iPad

[Guest guest]

I am not super religious, but I do have faith and beliefs. I am not sure why it

is such a big deal for some of you to hear others talking a out religion. I am

all for anything anyone has to offer, and keep an open mind. It does not hurt at

all to have beliefs when the medical community cannot offer help to a sick

child. What ever you through, I say go for it!

Sent from my iPad

[Guest guest]

The ugggh in the last message is my thought exactly. This is getting ridiculous. I really don't care how any of you found religion. The point of these posts is to provide support and advice that people can use or not use. But as I read the thread here (and I must admit, I stopped reading all of them at some point), the conversation started about discipline. That is a valid topic of discussion, because it can be trickier with kids on the spectrum. It then turned into a debate about spanking. Some of us (myself included) do not believe in spanking, which caused others on the list to use biblical quotes to validate their choice to spank their children. I'm sorry, but that's just ridiculous. I'm hear to find out what treatments, techniques, etc help our children, and I want it validated with real world reasoning, not religious. As the moderator said, no one wants to limit what people can say, but let's be reasonable. So Carolyn wants to be more bold. Great we got it, and we know where you're coming from. But let's move on from all of this silliness. The moderator was right that interpreting the Bible is tricky, particularly since different translations will have slightly different meanings. Anyone that's studied Latin -- and I have -- knows that Latin is a very, very flexible language, and there is a lot of subjectiveness that can show the bias of the translator. As pointed out with his post about training as opposed to discipline.

Let's please move on. Nobody's getting anything useful from any of these post anymore (including mine), so I'm not going to read anymore on this topic.

Peace,

Lora

To: autism-aspergers From: jcoopalla@...Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:22:21 -0400Subject: Re: Re: All this bible quotes WOW !!!!

ugh!!!!!

* Re: Re: All this bible quotes WOW !!!!

> >

> > Marilyn you are wrong about Christians needing to keep their faith

> > secret! Christ DID tell us to shout it from the housetops and of course

> > it is going to offend many many people, after all they did murder Jesus

> > Christ Himself you will recall, and later on ALL of the disciples were

> > murdered also by those who were offended back then. There is always

> > going to be a war against the Gospel, always has been always will be.

> >

> > Nothing has changed in 2,000 years.

> >

> > I think it is fine for folks to share their faith from time to time as

> > it applies to their personal lives and experiences. One thing to think

> > about too is many people are searching for real HELP for themselves and

> > their afflicted children. So is it right for those offended to block

> > those searching I wonder?

> >

> > Something to ponder. I know Jesus Christ has brought me through some

> > very hard trials quite amazing and unbelievable with my son's seizures

> > and violent behaviors, etc. so I give all the credit to Him and am not

> > ashamed to tell what helped me, or Who helped me in this case.

> >

> > I have no idea why this makes so many people mad, don't they want me or

> > my son to be here! Wow.

> >

> > Carolyn

> >

> > marilyn wrote:

> > >

> > > Whatever happend to common decency and respect for other peoples

> > > feelings? People in polite society for 100's of years have avoided

> > > discussing politics or religion except with their closest friends and

> > > family FOR EXACTLY THIS REASON--it's going to offend someone. Religion

> > > should be shared with people you know face to face or know well. Not

> > > in anonymous huge user groups that are dealing with medical issues,

> > > not religion.

> > >

> > > Why is it Christ taught to do good deeds in secret, and yet all these

> > > Christians insist on shouting "I'LL PRAY FOR YOU" from the rooftops,

> > > even when the prayers were not requested?? That's just plain Rude. If

> > > you feel compelled to pray for someones soul, nothings stopping you.

> > > Just don't ANNOUNCE IT. I believe Christ said that those who announced

> > > their good deeds to the world had already received their reward and

> > > should not expect another in Heaven. It's those who do the quiet

> > > things that will be lifted up.

> > >

> > > And just because someone doesn't believe in the Bible doesn't

> > > necessarily make them "anti-religions". you have no idea if they are

> > > Shinto or Buddhist any of dozens of other religions that don't come

> > > out of the Judeo-Christian format. But that doesn't necessarily mean

> > > they have no spiritual beliefs. And even if they don't--that's their

> > > personal choice.

> > >

> > > Did you know the Pledge of Allegiance did not contain "Under God"

> > > until the 1950's? Did you know most of the Founding Fathers were

> > > Agnostic or Humanists? The premise that we are a "Christian nation"

> > > here is bogus and it's rude to push it on other people. If someone

> > > wants to ask you about your beliefs, it's fine to share--but to force

> > > them on someone unsolicited is downright rude.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > you anti religious types are just as bad. can't you just ignore the

> > > posts

> > > > that "offend" you.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

The ugggh in the last message is my thought exactly. This is getting ridiculous. I really don't care how any of you found religion. The point of these posts is to provide support and advice that people can use or not use. But as I read the thread here (and I must admit, I stopped reading all of them at some point), the conversation started about discipline. That is a valid topic of discussion, because it can be trickier with kids on the spectrum. It then turned into a debate about spanking. Some of us (myself included) do not believe in spanking, which caused others on the list to use biblical quotes to validate their choice to spank their children. I'm sorry, but that's just ridiculous. I'm hear to find out what treatments, techniques, etc help our children, and I want it validated with real world reasoning, not religious. As the moderator said, no one wants to limit what people can say, but let's be reasonable. So Carolyn wants to be more bold. Great we got it, and we know where you're coming from. But let's move on from all of this silliness. The moderator was right that interpreting the Bible is tricky, particularly since different translations will have slightly different meanings. Anyone that's studied Latin -- and I have -- knows that Latin is a very, very flexible language, and there is a lot of subjectiveness that can show the bias of the translator. As pointed out with his post about training as opposed to discipline.

Let's please move on. Nobody's getting anything useful from any of these post anymore (including mine), so I'm not going to read anymore on this topic.

Peace,

Lora

To: autism-aspergers From: jcoopalla@...Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:22:21 -0400Subject: Re: Re: All this bible quotes WOW !!!!

ugh!!!!!

* Re: Re: All this bible quotes WOW !!!!

> >

> > Marilyn you are wrong about Christians needing to keep their faith

> > secret! Christ DID tell us to shout it from the housetops and of course

> > it is going to offend many many people, after all they did murder Jesus

> > Christ Himself you will recall, and later on ALL of the disciples were

> > murdered also by those who were offended back then. There is always

> > going to be a war against the Gospel, always has been always will be.

> >

> > Nothing has changed in 2,000 years.

> >

> > I think it is fine for folks to share their faith from time to time as

> > it applies to their personal lives and experiences. One thing to think

> > about too is many people are searching for real HELP for themselves and

> > their afflicted children. So is it right for those offended to block

> > those searching I wonder?

> >

> > Something to ponder. I know Jesus Christ has brought me through some

> > very hard trials quite amazing and unbelievable with my son's seizures

> > and violent behaviors, etc. so I give all the credit to Him and am not

> > ashamed to tell what helped me, or Who helped me in this case.

> >

> > I have no idea why this makes so many people mad, don't they want me or

> > my son to be here! Wow.

> >

> > Carolyn

> >

> > marilyn wrote:

> > >

> > > Whatever happend to common decency and respect for other peoples

> > > feelings? People in polite society for 100's of years have avoided

> > > discussing politics or religion except with their closest friends and

> > > family FOR EXACTLY THIS REASON--it's going to offend someone. Religion

> > > should be shared with people you know face to face or know well. Not

> > > in anonymous huge user groups that are dealing with medical issues,

> > > not religion.

> > >

> > > Why is it Christ taught to do good deeds in secret, and yet all these

> > > Christians insist on shouting "I'LL PRAY FOR YOU" from the rooftops,

> > > even when the prayers were not requested?? That's just plain Rude. If

> > > you feel compelled to pray for someones soul, nothings stopping you.

> > > Just don't ANNOUNCE IT. I believe Christ said that those who announced

> > > their good deeds to the world had already received their reward and

> > > should not expect another in Heaven. It's those who do the quiet

> > > things that will be lifted up.

> > >

> > > And just because someone doesn't believe in the Bible doesn't

> > > necessarily make them "anti-religions". you have no idea if they are

> > > Shinto or Buddhist any of dozens of other religions that don't come

> > > out of the Judeo-Christian format. But that doesn't necessarily mean

> > > they have no spiritual beliefs. And even if they don't--that's their

> > > personal choice.

> > >

> > > Did you know the Pledge of Allegiance did not contain "Under God"

> > > until the 1950's? Did you know most of the Founding Fathers were

> > > Agnostic or Humanists? The premise that we are a "Christian nation"

> > > here is bogus and it's rude to push it on other people. If someone

> > > wants to ask you about your beliefs, it's fine to share--but to force

> > > them on someone unsolicited is downright rude.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > you anti religious types are just as bad. can't you just ignore the

> > > posts

> > > > that "offend" you.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I don't mind some bible quotes but, there is so many! I usually read all my emails. Lately I find myself skipping the ones with heavy quoting. I love this group but, I will continue to skip reading the bible quotes. I joined this group to share and learn things from other Autistic parents. I still plan to do that.From: Tara Gaudet

To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers >Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2011 12:28 PMSubject: Re: Re: All this bible quotes WOW !!!!

I am not super religious, but I do have faith and beliefs. I am not sure why it is such a big deal for some of you to hear others talking a out religion. I am all for anything anyone has to offer, and keep an open mind. It does not hurt at all to have beliefs when the medical community cannot offer help to a sick child. What ever you through, I say go for it!

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I don't mind some bible quotes but, there is so many! I usually read all my emails. Lately I find myself skipping the ones with heavy quoting. I love this group but, I will continue to skip reading the bible quotes. I joined this group to share and learn things from other Autistic parents. I still plan to do that.From: Tara Gaudet

To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers >Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2011 12:28 PMSubject: Re: Re: All this bible quotes WOW !!!!

I am not super religious, but I do have faith and beliefs. I am not sure why it is such a big deal for some of you to hear others talking a out religion. I am all for anything anyone has to offer, and keep an open mind. It does not hurt at all to have beliefs when the medical community cannot offer help to a sick child. What ever you through, I say go for it!

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