B12

[Guest guest]

<Your post leaves me scratching my head: what are you

talking about about " universal methylator " . That sounds

like you are saying the same thing Huggins was saying:

that B12 may cause <less toxic form of mercury> to

become <more toxic form>. Am I following you?>

Not exactly. Methylation is a very general process in the body. Like

sulfation, acetylation, It is used to turn genes on and off, activate and

deactivate proteins, and many, many other things. (A good, readable book on

the subject is " Methyl Magic " by Craig Cooney, Ph.D.) The thesis of the

book is that you need to eat a diet and supplement to increase your body's

ability to methylate things, because that will help you ward off all kinds

of diseases. So, while one undesirable side effect might be to methylate

mercury (a bad thing), allowing yourself to be B12 deficient would stop all

of these methylation things- the good (and critical!!) and the bad (such as

mercury.) On the balance, I think it is throwing out the baby with the

bathwater.

G

[Guest guest]

The emerging nutritional crisis of B12 deficiency calls for remedial

action in the macro- as well as micro-environment. Broad-spectrum

remineralization of topsoils using crushed rock or dried seaweed from

ocean areas known to contain sufficient cobalt can reestablish mineral

balances necessary for healthy food supply able to fulfill our

requirement, both direct and indirect, for B12 . The cobalt connection

is especially relevant to us growing our own food, since

cobalt-deficient areas likely are well-established. Beyond promoting

remineralization to the farm community, we can adopt the practice in

our gardens.

On 5 Mar 2005, at 18:22, Colourbleu wrote:

> http://www.championtrees.org/topsoil/b12coblt.htm

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[Guest guest]

As a gardener, I found this very interesting. I certainly have always

lived in glaciated regions, which turns out to be good. I also have

clover in my lawn, but try to keep it out of the garden! Here in

Halifax it is very rocky. I wonder how much Cobalamin is in " made " soil

that I have to dump on top of the rocks! Of course most of my food is

grown elsewhere so that's a non-issue unless all of society and

transportation break down.

- Kate D.

On Saturday, March 5, 2005, at 01:22 PM, Colourbleu wrote:

> http://www.championtrees.org/topsoil/b12coblt.htm

[Guest guest]

Hi Steve

Folate deficiency can also be caused by celiac disease and gluten

intolerance. A nutritionally orientated doctor I saw many years

picked this up due to both my symptoms and the changes in my red

blood cells - large and mishapen. He tested me for deficiences, there

were typically many including red blood cell folate. A gluten free

diet, folic acid supplementation along with many others as well,

helped with many sympoms. I was able to start putting some weight

back on again. I was had become so thin then that my family said I

looked like those in Africa going through a famine, even had the same

swollen stomach, yet I was eating enough to put ON weight.

This was many years ago when few adults were tested for celiac

disease, they just kept insisting I had an eating disorder but could

not explain the diarrhea. Since I live in the UK this will not

surprise you at all. ;-)

There's some info on celiac disease and subsquent deificiencies at -

http://www.healthy-r-us.org/celiac.htm

Cheers, Tansy

> http://www.dotpharmacy.co.uk/upanaem.html

>

> Causes of folate deficiency Folic acid is found in many food types,

> with the majority provided by green vegetables and offal. It is

easily

> destroyed by cooking, unlike vitamin B12 which is not. It is

absorbed

> in the small intestine and adults require 100mcg daily, with a

Western

> diet providing 200mcg per day. Unlike vitamin B12 and iron, body

stores

> of folate are small and deficiencies can occur more readily, within

> four months of decreased intake or increased requirements.

>

> There are many causes of folate deficiency, but the most common

is due

> to a low intake. Also, importantly for pharmacists, some drugs are

> implicated in reducing folate levels. Prophylactic folic acid is

> warranted in conception and pregnancy due to its role in the

prevention

> of neural tube defects.

>

> Treatment This depends on the type of deficiency present. If a

> patient receives folic acid as a sole therapy for an undiagnosed

> vitamin B12 deficiency, then neuropathy may result, leading to

subacute

> spinal degeneration. In both cases of folate and vitamin B12

> deficiency, any underlying cause should be established and treated

> where possible. In vitamin B12 deficiency, therapy is

intramuscular.

> Oral treatment is unlikely to work as the majority of cases in the

UK

> are either due to pernicious anaemia and the associated reduction

in

> intrinsic factor, or more commonly malabsorption. Treatment is 1mg

of

> intramuscular hydroxocobalamin repeated five times at intervals of

two

> to three days in order to replenish depleted body stores. The

patient

> is then maintained on 1mg of hydroxocobalamin intramuscularly every

> three months. The patient should be informed that treatment is

likely

> to be for life.

>

> In folate deficiency, oral supplementation of 5mg of folic acid

for

> four months is usually all that is required. Treatment is usually

> short-term as the causes of folate deficiency are self-limiting.

Higher

> doses may be required occasionally, especially in malabsorption

> conditions.

[Guest guest]

I am thinking at the moment that the B12 is really low in me. I am now

flooding my system and am seemingly doing good as a result. I am still

in deep shit after the MP trial and cannot do nothing as I keep having

crashes. The b12 is seemingly keeping the wolf from the door, I just

hope he stays away. And that the main problem is this?. Else I am

really on my way out. It's knife edge for me at the moment.

Im also doing folic acid with good results, and dabbling about with

potassium and salt. Also other B vits coming next week. B6/complex etc.

>

> Hi Steve

>

> Folate deficiency can also be caused by celiac disease and gluten

> intolerance. A nutritionally orientated doctor I saw many years

> picked this up due to both my symptoms and the changes in my red

> blood cells - large and mishapen. He tested me for deficiences, there

> were typically many including red blood cell folate. A gluten free

> diet, folic acid supplementation along with many others as well,

> helped with many sympoms. I was able to start putting some weight

> back on again. I was had become so thin then that my family said I

> looked like those in Africa going through a famine, even had the same

> swollen stomach, yet I was eating enough to put ON weight.

>

> This was many years ago when few adults were tested for celiac

> disease, they just kept insisting I had an eating disorder but could

> not explain the diarrhea. Since I live in the UK this will not

> surprise you at all. ;-)

>

> There's some info on celiac disease and subsquent deificiencies at -

> http://www.healthy-r-us.org/celiac.htm

>

> Cheers, Tansy

>

>

> > http://www.dotpharmacy.co.uk/upanaem.html

> >

> > Causes of folate deficiency Folic acid is found in many food types,

> > with the majority provided by green vegetables and offal. It is

> easily

> > destroyed by cooking, unlike vitamin B12 which is not. It is

> absorbed

> > in the small intestine and adults require 100mcg daily, with a

> Western

> > diet providing 200mcg per day. Unlike vitamin B12 and iron, body

> stores

> > of folate are small and deficiencies can occur more readily, within

> > four months of decreased intake or increased requirements.

> >

> >   There are many causes of folate deficiency, but the most common

> is due

> > to a low intake. Also, importantly for pharmacists, some drugs are

> > implicated in reducing folate levels. Prophylactic folic acid is

> > warranted in conception and pregnancy due to its role in the

> prevention

> > of neural tube defects.

> >

> >   Treatment  This depends on the type of deficiency present. If a

> > patient receives folic acid as a sole therapy for an undiagnosed

> > vitamin B12 deficiency, then neuropathy may result, leading to

> subacute

> > spinal degeneration. In both cases of folate and vitamin B12

> > deficiency, any underlying cause should be established and treated

> > where possible.  In vitamin B12 deficiency, therapy is

> intramuscular.

> > Oral treatment is unlikely to work as the majority of cases in the

> UK

> > are either due to pernicious anaemia and the associated reduction

> in

> > intrinsic factor, or more commonly malabsorption. Treatment is 1mg

> of

> > intramuscular hydroxocobalamin repeated five times at intervals of

> two

> > to three days in order to replenish depleted body stores. The

> patient

> > is then maintained on 1mg of hydroxocobalamin intramuscularly every

> > three months. The patient should be informed that treatment is

> likely

> > to be for life.

> >

> >   In folate deficiency, oral supplementation of 5mg of folic acid

> for

> > four months is usually all that is required. Treatment is usually

> > short-term as the causes of folate deficiency are self-limiting.

> Higher

> > doses may be required occasionally, especially in malabsorption

> > conditions.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

mistake sorry:

        

 Pernicious Anemia is a rare blood disorder characterized by the

inability of the body to properly utilize vitamin B12 (a cobalamin),

which is essential for the development of red blood cells.

           The symptoms of Pernicious Anemia may include weakness,

fatigue, an upset stomach, an abnormally rapid heartbeat (tachycardia),

and/or chest pains.

           Recurring episodes of anemia (megaloblastic) and an

abnormal yellow coloration of the skin (jaundice) are also common.

           Pernicious Anemia is thought to be an autoimmune

disorder,

and certain people may have a genetic predisposition to this disorder.

           The three recognized forms of Pernicious Anemia include:

Congenital Pernicious Anemia, Juvenile Pernicious Anemia, and Adult

Onset Pernicious Anemia. The subdivisions are based on the age at onset

and the precise nature of the defect causing impaired B12 utilization

(e.g., absence of intrinsic factor).

Hypokalemia and sudden death may occur when severe megaloblastic

anemia is treated intensively. Lack of therapeutic response may be due

to infection.

Before administering vitamin B12, an intradermal test dose is

recommended for patients known to be sensitive to cobalamines.

Excessive alcohol intake for longer than 2 weeks may produce

malabsorption of vitamin B12. Doses of vitamin B12 exceeding 10 µg

daily may produce a hematologic response in patients who have a folate

deficiency.

Indiscriminate administration of vitamin B12 may mask the true

diagnosis of pernicious anemia. A dietary deficiency of only vitamin

B12 is rare. Multiple vitamin deficiency is expected in any dietary

deficiency.

In patients with ian (pernicious) anemia, parenteral therapy

with vitamin B12 is the recommended method of treatment and will be

required for the remainder of the patient's life. Oral therapy is not

dependable. Serum potassium must be watched closely the first 48 hours;

and potassium should be replaced if necessary. Reticulocyte plasma

count, vitamin B12 and folic acid levels must be obtained prior to

treatment and between the fifth and seventh day of therapy.

There is some evidence that pernicious anemia may be genetic although

its mode of inheritance is poorly documented. There is a congenital

form of pernicious anemia due to defect of intrinsic factor at birth

that is clearly inherited as an autosomal recessive trait with the

affected child having received two copies of the gene, one from each

parent. The intrinsic factor gene itself has been localized to human

chromosome 11.

Pernicious anemia probably is an autoimmune disorder with a genetic

predisposition. Pernicious anemia is more common than is expected in

families of patients with pernicious anemia, and the disease is

associated with human leucocyte antigen (HLA) types A2, A3, and B7 and

type A blood group.

Patients may report either constipation or having several semisolid

bowel movements daily. This has been attributed to megaloblastic

changes of the cells of the intestinal mucosa.

Mortality/Morbidity: The disease is called pernicious anemia because it

was fatal prior to the discovery that it was a nutritional disorder.

The megaloblastic appearance of cells led many to speculate that it was

a neoplastic disease. The response of patients to liver therapy

suggested that a nutritional deficiency was responsible for the

disorder. This became obvious in clinical trials once vitamin B-12 was

isolated. Presently, patients on appropriate treatment have a normal

lifespan.

• Nervous system: Neurological symptoms can be elicited in most

patients with pernicious anemia, and the most common symptoms are

paresthesias, weakness, clumsiness, and an unsteady gait. The 2 latter

symptoms become worse in a dark room because they reflect the loss of

proprioception in a patient who is unable to rely upon vision for

compensation. These neurological symptoms are due to myelin

degeneration and loss of nerve fibers in the dorsal and lateral columns

of the spinal cord and cerebral cortex.

â—¦ Neurological symptoms and findings may be present in the absence of

anemia; this is more common in patients taking folic acid or on a

high-folate diet.

â—¦ Patients who are older may present with symptoms suggesting senile

dementia or Alzheimer disease; memory loss, irritability, and

personality changes are commonplace. Megaloblastic madness is less

common and can be manifested by delusions, hallucinations, outbursts,

and paranoid schizophrenic ideation. Identifying the cause is important

because significant reversal of these symptoms and findings can occur

with vitamin B-12 administration

• Abnormal mentation and deterioration of vision and hearing may be

observed.

â—¦ Central nervous system: Suspect pernicious anemia in all patients

with recent loss of mental capacities. Somnolence, dementia, psychotic

depression, and frank psychosis may be observed, which can be reversed

or improved by treatment with Cbl. Perversion of taste and smell and

visual disturbances, which can progress to optic atrophy, can likewise

result from central nervous system Cbl deficiency.

â—¦ Combined system disease: A history of either paresthesias in the

fingers and toes or difficulty with gait and balance should prompt a

careful neurological examination. Loss of position sense in the second

toe and loss of vibratory sense for a 256-Hz but not a 128-Hz tuning

fork are the earliest signs of posterolateral column disease. If

untreated, this can progress to spastic ataxia from demyelinization of

the dorsal and lateral columns of the spinal cord.

Causes: An increased incidence of pernicious anemia in families

suggests a hereditary component to the disease. Patients with

pernicious anemia have an increased incidence of autoimmune disorders

and thyroid disease, suggesting that an immunological component to the

disease exists. Children who develop Cbl deficiency usually have a

hereditary disorder, and the etiology of their Cbl deficiency is

different from the etiology observed in classic pernicious anemia.

Homocysteine is used in many of the important steps your body uses to

break down methionine into non-essential proteins. At the end of the

cycle, homocysteine is used to recombine the “leftovers†from this

process back into a little methionine. This entire process takes a lot

of energy. Your body gets this energy from vitamins and other

nutrients. If you don’t have enough nutrition, especially if you are

B-12 deficient—either because you are not getting B vitamins from the

foods you eat or because your body is not able to adequately absorb

them (which happens as we age)—the methionine is not recombined and

homocysteine escapes into your bloodstream. If it does, the

homocysteine will eventually become toxic and will damage your arteries

and brain cells.

Homocysteine is formed by the body as a naturally synthesized byproduct

of methionine ( a very important amino acid in your body) metabolism.

Like cholesterol, homocysteine performs a necessary function in the

body, after which, if the right cofactors are present, it will

eventually convert to cysteine (and this is one of the amino acids

needed to produce glutathione, which is very critical in your

detoxifications pathways.) and other beneficial compounds such as ATP,

(the energy molecule of the body)  and S-adenosylmethionine (SAM). When

left intact, it enters the bloodstream and begins attacking blood

vessel walls, laying the foundation for heart disease, stroke and other

cardiovascular diseases.

The clear message from new scientific findings is that there is no safe

" normal range " for homocysteine. While commercial laboratories state

that normal homocysteine can range from 5 to 15 micromoles per liter of

blood, epidemiological data reveal that homocysteine levels above 6.3

cause a steep, progressive risk of heart attack (the American Heart

Association's journal Circulation, Nov. 15, 1995, 2825-30). One study

found each 3-unit increase in homocysteine equals a 35% increase in

myocardial-infarction (heart-attack) risk (American Journal of

Epidemiology, 1996, 143[9]:845-59).

Many enzymes, or catalysts are involved in the complete metabolism of

homocysteine. If any of these enzymes is defective or functions

inefficiently, the body is less able to successfully process

homocysteine. Although this enzyme dysfunction  may be due to a mutated

or defective gene, ( identified by Dr. Rima Rozen at McGill University

in Montreal), more often this breakdown in metabolism is due to

deficiencies of certain nutrients. . .particularly B-6, B-12 and folic

acid. When this function is disordered, whether due to genetic defect

or nutrient deficiency, homocysteine accumulates and enters the

bloodstream where it promotes oxidation of lipids, causes platelets to

stick together, enhances the binding of lipoprotein (a) to fibrin and

promotes free radical damage to the inside of arteries.

Some have suggested that the obvious solution to reducing homocysteine

would be to restrict methionine intake by restricting foods such as

meats that are rich in methionine. Then the supermarket shelves would

be lined with low methionine and methionine-free foods. That makes

about as much sense as switching cabins on the Titanic. Methionine is a

sulfur-containing amino acid that is involved in the synthesis of

protein, important in the maintenance of cartilage, and needed for the

formation of other important amino acids such as taurine and carnitine.

Methionine is not at fault. The problem is when homocysteine cannot be

converted.

Reducing Homocysteine Levels

The good news is...elevated homocysteine levels, whether due to

nutrient deficiencies or defective genes, can easily be normalized in

virtually all cases, simply and inexpensively, using a combination of

nutritional supplements. The most effective defense against

homocysteine buildup is a combination of vitamins B-6 and B-12, folio

acid and trimethylglycine (TMG). So you have a way to naturally lower

cholesterol.

There are three biochemical pathways used by the body to reduce

homocysteine. In one pathway TMG donates a methyl group which

detoxifies homocysteine. In this reaction, TMG is reduced to DMG

(dimethylglycine), that familiar-product sold as a supplement for its

energizing effects. In the other routes, folic acid, B12 and B6 convert

homocysteine into nontoxic substances. Some people can't utilize one or

another of these pathways. That is why a combination of all these

nutrients is most effective for lowering homocysteine. In some people

vitamin B may not be efficiently converted to its active co-enzyme

form, pyridoxyl-5-phosphate. In that case supplementing with

pyridoxyl-5-phosphate would be necessary. There we go again..good

health depends on nutrition and yet many medical types insist nutrition

has nothing to do with overall health

 Trimethylglycine

Trimethylglycine (aka TMG) is the biochemical term for betaine.  TMG is

able to donate methyl groups (a methyl group is one carbon molecule and

three hydrogens..very, very important to our chemistries) to

biochemical events and in the case of  homocysteine this leads to the

increased production of S-adenosyl-methionine (SAM or sometimes it is

written SAMe) which is the bioactive form of the amino acid

methionine…also a methyl donor.  SAM has been used successfully to

treat problems such as cirrhosis of the liver, depression,

osteoarthritis and Fibromyalgia. 

Methyl groups are thought to protect cellular DNA from mutation, a

process which is also helped by good antioxidants. As people age, they

often do not have enough available methyl groups to safeguard DNA.

Abnormal methylation patterns are found in many people with cancer.

Eating foods that contain methyl groups such as beets, green leafy

vegetables and legumes is helpful, but these must be eaten in

relatively large quantities several times a week. Therefore, dietary

supplements such as TMG may often be necessary to provide the body with

sufficient protective methyl groups.

Betaine comes from beet sugar and is extracted through a very complex

process.  Don’t think the betaine HCL you see in digestive supports is

the same thing..it isn’t.  It has not been shown that betaine HCL is a

methyl donator..although it may be..it is very acidic and for long term

use, would not be a good plan.

There are essentially two ways to lower homocysteine levels.  One, the

most common, would be to add methyl groups to it to convert it to

methionine or SAMe.

This is accomplished, as mentioned, through TMG (which as its name

suggests, has three methyl groups on each glycine molecule – glycine is

another amino acid.  They are transferred to homocysteine, but need the

help of folic acid, vitamin B12, and zinc.

Another methyl donor of importance is choline and this remethylation of

homocysteine does NOT need co-factors.  One hitch, though, is that this

process is only active in the liver and kidneys..so to protect the

whole body, in particular the brain one should be sure to take a

complex with all factors present.

The second pathway to lower homocysteine involves converting it into

cysteine (an very important amino acid), which then through a cascade

of chemistry becomes glutathione.  This pathway is dependent on vitamin

B6 and the exact amount needed to lower homocysteine from person to

person can vary greatly.  It is only the amino acid methionine which

can create homocysteine and the amount of that in someone’s diet,

really depends on the individual’s diet.  One higher in red meat and

chicken would be higher in methionine and so this person would need

more B6 (and the other co-factors for that matter) to ensure the

clearing of homocysteine.

Elevated homocysteine can also be caused by a genetic defect that

blocks the trans-sulfuration pathway (the path which ultimately changes

it to glutathione) by inducing a deficiency of the vitamin B6-dependent

enzyme cystathionine-B-synthase. In this case, high doses of vitamin B6

are required to suppress excessive homocysteine accumulation. Since one

would not want to take excessive doses of vitamin B6 (greater than 300

to 500 mg a day for a long time period), a homocysteine blood test can

help determine whether you are taking enough vitamin B6 to keep

homocysteine levels in a safe range. There are some people who lack an

enzyme to convert vitamin B6 into its biologically active form,

pyridoxal-5-phosphate. In this case, if low-cost vitamin B6 supplements

do not sufficiently lower homocysteine levels, then a high-cost

pyridoxal-5-phosphate supplement may be required. I generally suggest

to my patients to take the bio-active form without thinking about the

cheaper brands. 

For many people, the daily intake of 500 mg of TMG, 800 mcg of folic

acid, 1000 mcg of vitamin B12, 250 mg of choline, 250 mg of inositol,

30 mg of zinc, and 100 mg of vitamin B6 will keep homocysteine levels

in a safe range. But the only way to really know is to have your blood

tested to make sure your homocysteine levels are under 7. If

homocysteine levels are too high, then up to 6 grams of TMG may be

needed along with higher amounts of other remethylation cofactors. Some

people with cystathione-B synthase deficiencies will require 500 mg a

day or more of vitamin B6 to reduce homocysteine to a safe level. For

the prevention of cardiovascular disease, you would want your

homocysteine blood level to be under 7. For the prevention of aging,

some people have suggested that an even lower level is desirable, but

more research needs to be done before any scientific conclusions can be

reached.

A Life Extension article (July, 1997), sites these cases of people with

problems in these pathways. “People with these disorders frequently die

of cardiovascular disease before reaching adulthood. In one case

history report, a 16-year-old Japanese girl was unable to walk with or

without support, and had severe peripheral neuropathy, muscle weakness

and convulsions. Her vascular system was on the verge of collapse. B6

or B12 didn't help. Folic acid lowered homocysteine, but didn't improve

her symptoms. Two months after adding TMG to the regimen, her

homocysteine level dropped and she was able to walk with support.

Seventeen months later, she was free from convulsions and able to walk

normally again.

This case history demonstrates the seesaw relationship between

homocysteine and SAM. The girls SAM levels went from undetectable to

near normal after the first two months of treatment while her

homocysteine levels fell dramatically. If these nutrients can overcome

a genetic disorder, consider how powerful they can be in reducing the

risks associated with elevated homocysteine in the general population.

Some people who have been taking this homocysteine lowering nutrient

combination for more than a decade reported many benefits including

fewer colds, more energy, increased endurance and lower blood sugar

levels.â€

Methylation/Homocysteine and Other Disease

I cannot speak enough of the importance of the process of methylation

to our health and functions. For one, it is essential to DNA repair,

which if not repaired will result in breaks and mutation.  This in turn

leads to accelerated aging because of larger amounts of “half-baked†or

even dangerous proteins being produced. In fact, in a journal  Medical

Hypothesis (1998, 51[3]:179-221), it was suggested that aging, period,

could be a result of cellular demethylation, or in other words, a

slowing of “re-methylation†needed to maintain and repair DNA.  

Methylation is a key process in the liver with respect to its ability

to detoxify our bodies.  It is needed for the growth of new cells,

nerve sheath production (myelination) and a whole host of other

critical processes.  

 Homocysteine is a “biggy†for interfering with the whole methylation

pathway. High homocysteine speaks to us of poor methylation in a

patient.  Homocysteine may also be causing damage through oxidative

stress (free radical formation).  This is the reason I use a good

antioxidant with most protocols such as Metagenic’s Oxygenics or

Naturpharm’s Super A/O. 

Many studies have been done on the relationship between homocysteine

levels and dementia, and while research does not conclusively prove the

relationship, it strongly suggests that homocysteine directly promotes

the development of dementia and Alzheimer’s disease.

Vitamin B12:

Surprising New Findings

by: Terri

Page 1 of 4

For years, vitamin B12 languished as the vitamin that cures anemia.

Hardly any research was done into what this vitamin could do for

non-anemic people. It turns out that it may do a lot. New studies show

that the right amount of B12 can protect against dementia, boost immune

function, maintain nerves, regenerate cells and more. B12 is in the

news because it lowers homocysteine and protects against

atherosclerosis. It’s also vital for maintaining methylation reactions

that repair DNA and prevent cancer. One of the crucial areas for B12 is

the brain.

It’s not surprising that people with B12 deficiency develop mental

disorders. The vitamin is crucial for the synthesis or utilization of

important neuro-factors including monoamines, melatonin and serotonin.

In addition, B12 is absolutely critical for the function and

maintenance of nerves themselves. B12 is needed for methylation

reactions that maintain these cells, and enable them to function. For

this reason, the methylated form of B12, methylcobalamin, may be

superior to other forms of the vitamin. Methylcobalamin is considered

“bioactiveâ€, which means that it doesn’t have to undergo any chemical

reactions in the body before it starts working.

B12 contributes to brain function by lowering homocysteine.

Homocysteine is a toxic by-product of methionine metabolism that can

damage neurons. Importantly, homocysteine interferes with the

methylation reactions critical for brain function. Studies show that

people with elevated homocysteine can’t think.

I can’t remember

B12-deficiency can cause a dementia that looks exactly like Alzheimer’s

disease. And Alzheimer’s disease itself is characterized by brain

deficiencies of both vitamin B12 and the methylating factor,

S-adenosylmethionine (SAMe). A new study from Germany correlates B12

deficiency in Alzheimer’s patients with two personality

changes—irritability and disturbed behavior.

The connection between B12 deficiency and mental illness has been

documented repeatedly. According to the latest research, as much as 30%

of hospitalized mental patients may be deficient in the vitamin. And

what’s disturbing is that studies repeatedly show that the deficiency

is frequently missed by standard blood tests. For example, a recent

study from Germany shows that out of 67 hemodialysis patients who were

B12-deficient by the measurement of methylmalonic acid (it goes up when

B12 goes down), only two of them were deficient by a standard blood

test. Looking at the data, one can’t help but wonder how many people

with B12 deficiency get treated for mental illness when what they

should get is a vitamin!

B12 and folate

Folate deficiency can also produce mental symptoms, although it is less

common. Folate and vitamin B12 are both required for biochemical

reactions that occur in the brain. One won’t work without the other: a

deficiency in one produces a deficiency in the other.

Should a folate deficiency be suspected, both folate and vitamin B12

should be taken. This is because the deficiencies look so similar. If

the deficiency is, in fact, B12 instead of folate, folate will appear

to correct it in blood cells (where deficiencies are measured). But

folate will not correct a B12 deficiency in the brain. Permanent brain

damage can result if B12 deficiency is treated with folate. For years,

this problem has caused the government to resist supplementing the food

supply with significant amounts of folate. Be aware, also, that high

amounts of folate in the absence of adequate B12 can provoke or worsen

neurological conditions. It’s important to get adequate amounts of both

of these vitamins simultaneously.

Aging

Many studies have been done on the issue of whether B12 deficiency

relates to age-related cognitive decline in normal people. Results have

been mixed. One of the problems is getting an accurate reading on B12

levels. Blood levels don’t necessarily reflect tissue levels. Another

problem is that folate deficiency can complicate the picture. A study

in people 65+ found that folate levels significantly correlate with

cognitive function, but B12 did not. Another study published at the

same time (but using a different kind of evaluation) found that

supplemental B12 improves cognition, notably, a person’s ability to

remember words.

Protect your nerves

Methylcobalamin is terrific for protecting neurons. It saves the brain

from the damaging effects of glutamate, nitric oxide, low blood sugar

and low oxygen. Low oxygen occurs during stroke or heart attack. Low

blood sugar is a chronic problem in diabetes. Glutamate and nitric

oxide toxicity are features of Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s diseases.

Taking methylcobalamin everyday may provide immediate protection should

a person be suddenly injured or have a stroke. Researchers in Japan

demonstrated that chronic application of methylcobalamin to neurons

protects them, but in order for the vitamin to work, it has to be ready

and available before the injury occurs.

The supplement-of-choice

Vitamin B12 is the only vitamin that is part mineral. The scientific

name for B12 is cobalamin. Cobalamin contains cobalt, a mineral that

stimulates the production of red blood cells. The most common forms of

supplemental B12 are cyanocobalamin or hydroxycobalamin. The natural

form of B12 found in food is methylcobalamin (or a similar form,

adenosylocobalamin). The structure of B12 is very complex, with

numerous methyl groups attached. Methyl groups (CH3) are used in

beneficial methylation reactions, such as those that reduce

homocysteine.

Methylcobalamin is the supplement-of-choice in Japan where it’s

approved to treat anemia. This form may have advantages over the cyano

form. In a study on sleep patterns, methylcobalamin seemed to work

better than cyanocobalamin. And this form is the B12 used in neuron

protection studies.

Myelin sheath, the “insulation†around nerve cells, is critical for

nerve conduction. Degeneration of this protein causes serious

neurological diseases. Myelin is created and maintained by methylation

reactions that depend on vitamin B12.

Recently, researchers in France succeeded in creating for the first

time a model of vitamin B12 deficiency in oligodendrocytes, the cells

that produce myelin sheath. This will enable the in-depth study of the

effects of vitamin B12 on the synthesis of myelin for the first time.

Data from this new model could lead to new insight into muscular

dystrophy, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, subacute combined

degeneration of the spinal cord, multiple sclerosis and other

neuro-degenerative diseases.

Methylcobalamin has been used in animal studies on neurodegenerative

diseases. The methyl form of vitamin B12 clearly promotes nerve

regeneration and slows the progression of neurodegenerative diseases.

Neuropathies are strange and sometimes painful sensations caused by

degeneration of nerves. Methylcobalamin is effective for this

condition. In a study on diabetic rats, methylcobalamin reduced

demyelination. In a study on humans undergoing hemodialysis, 500

micrograms of methylcobalamin by injection three times a week, lessened

neuropathies.

Heart attack and stroke

Vitamin B12 has an important role in reducing levels of homocysteine to

prevent heart attack and stroke. Homocysteine is a by-product of

methionine metabolism that can damage blood vessels. B12 and folate are

critical for the production of the tongue-twisting enzyme,

methylenetetrahydrofolatereductase, which helps convert homocysteine to

methionine. Dozens of studies show that the most common cause of

elevated homocysteine is inadequate folate or vitamin B12.

Supplementation with these vitamins lowers homocysteine levels, but

vitamin B6 and trimethylglycine (TMG) are usually also required to

lower homocysteine to a healthy range.

Vitamin B12 deficiency has another effect on the heart as well. Turkish

researchers recently reported that people with megalobastic anemia have

abnormal electrical conductivity of the heart. The problem originates

in the nerves that control heart rate. When the anemic volunteers took

supplemental B12, heart rate returned to normal.

Cancer

Methylcobalamin (B12) and Bell's Palsy

Bell’s palsy is a temporary paralysis of the facial nerve. A person

with Bell’s palsy may not be able to open their eye or close one side

of their mouth. Since this condition involves nerves, and vitamin B12

is critical for nerves, the vitamin was tested as a treatment for this

nerve condition. Sixty people with Bell’s palsy were divided into three

groups. The first group was given standard steroid therapy. The second

group was given methylcobalamin plus steroid. The third group was given

methylcobalamin alone. It took 2-9 weeks for the drug group to recover.

The groups given methylcobalamin recovered much quicker, some within

days. The group given methylcobalamin alone recovered the quickest.

MA Jalaludin. 1995. Methylcobalamin treatment of Bell’s palsy. Methods

Find Exp Clin Pharmacol 17:539-44.

Elevated homocysteine is rightfully considered a risk factor for

cancer. High levels of homocysteine are consistently linked with DNA

damage. The connection was shown recently in a study from Australia

where the micro-nucleus index (a measure of DNA damage) increased as

levels of homocysteine increased. This held true for both younger

(18-32) and older (50-70) people.

Fifty-six percent of the men in the older bracket either tested below

par for B12 or folate, or abnormally high for homocysteine. Men with

homocysteine levels greater than 10 micromoles per liter had

significantly more DNA damage than those with lower homocysteine, even

if they had normal levels of B12 and folate. Despite no folate

deficiency, supplementation with 3.5 times the recommended allowance of

folate and B12 still significantly reduced the micronucleus index in

people where it was initially elevated above the 50th percentile.

(Note: in this study, taking 10 times the recommended amount of folate

and B12 did not have any added benefit).

One of the implications of this study is that “normal†levels of these

vitamins—standard blood levels—are probably not adequate to prevent DNA

damage. It also indicates that high homocysteine levels are a red flag

that DNA damage is occurring whether or not homocysteine-lowering

vitamins are adequate by blood measurements. Men with low, but still

“normalâ€, levels of B12 had significantly more damage. According to Dr.

Fenech, author of the study, “the accepted standard for vitamin

B12 sufficiency (i.e., plasma concentration <150 pmol/L) may not be

adequate to minimize chromosome damage rates.â€

H. Pylori and vitamin B12 deficiency

Researchers have discovered a connection between anemia, B12

deficiency, and infection with H. Pylori, the organism that causes

stomach ulcers. The study enrolled 138 people with B12 deficiency and

anemia. Fifty-six percent of them tested positive for H. Pylori. Many

had no symptoms; others had “heartburn†or other stomach problems.

When the bacteria were eradicated with antibiotics, vitamin B12 levels

returned to normal without supplementation. It took a month for this to

occur, and three to six months more for full improvement. In people

where the antibiotic treatment didn’t work, anemia and B12 levels

didn’t improve. The difference in B12 levels before and after treatment

is striking: after treatment, levels were approximately four times

higher. H. Pylori may partly explain mysterious studies showing that

elderly people are taking in enough B12, but turning up deficient

anyway. Older people are prone to atrophic gastritis, a condition where

there is not enough acid and pepsin in the stomach to properly digest

food. This creates a friendly climate for unfriendly bacteria such as

H. Pylori. It also impairs the stomach’s ability to acquire vitamin B12

from food.

People with stomach pain or “heartburn†often take antacids, including

drugs such as Prolisec or Prevacid. While these types of drugs

temporarily ease the pain, they further suppress acid necessary to

maintain B12 levels and proper stomach bacteria. If the stomach is

infected with H. Pylori or other pathogenic bacteria (overgrowth of

bacteria in the small intestine can cause similar symptoms), the answer

is to kill the bug, allow the ulcers to heal, then augment (not

suppress) stomach acid with supplements designed to maintain acidity

and discourage bacterial growth.

Oral B12 works

Despite what it says on the package insert of injectable B12, oral B12

works. For example, gastrointestinal surgery usually causes B12

depletion and anemia. Japanese researchers used 500-1500 mcg/day of

oral B12 to treat B12 deficiency after total gastrectomy. This amount

reversed the deficiency quickly and efficiently. B12 blood levels of

patients receiving 750+mcg were comparable to patients receiving 500

mcg by injection every two months. Japan has long recognized the

benefits of using the methylated form of B12, methylcobalamin. Despite

strong evidence that oral B12 is effective, physicians are slow to

recommend this form to their patients. A study published in 1998

reports that 71% of the internists surveyed don’t believe that oral B12

works as well as injections.

Widespread deficiency

A new study from Tufts University reports that B12 supplements are the

most important source of vitamin B12 for Americans. Those taking

supplements or eating cereal supplemented with B12, are half as likely

to be B12 deficient than those who don’t. Meat, the primary source of

B12 for Americans, is not as good a source. This is probably due to

problems in digestion and prescription drugs that interfere with the

absorption of B12 when it’s attached to proteins such as meat. Cooking

may also affect the vitamin B12 content of meat.

B12 deficiency has gotten so bad in America that the RDA has been

increased from 2.0 micrograms a day to 2.4. It’s not only older people

who are deficient these days. The Tufts study looked at the children of

people who took part in the original Framingham heart study. They were

stunned to see that in one generation, B12 deficiency in kids had

caught up to the generation before. Pizza, one of the foods evaluated,

is apparently not a good source of vitamin B12.

Although the body needs minute amounts of vitamin B12, Americans are

not getting enough for general health, let alone optimal DNA and heart

protection. H. Pylori infection, drugs, over-cooking meat, increased

demand and other factors may be robbing us of this highly crucial

vitamin. The mistaken belief that B12 has to be given by injection may

be keeping people from getting the extra B12 they need. High amounts of

the vitamin are not toxic; and may in fact be more beneficial than we

currently know. Evidence is stacking up that amounts of vitamin B12

above and beyond the current recommended daily allowance may help

protect nerves and protect us from cancer, infections and a host of

other adverse conditions.

Methylcobalamin (B12) and immunity

Methylcobalamin enhances the activity of natural killer and T-cells.

These immune cells are important for killing cancer and viruses.

Japanese researchers have discovered that ratio of T-helper cells to

T-suppressor cells is abnormal in people with anemia. Methylcobalamin

corrects this defect. Vegans with B12 deficiency have lowered numbers

of immune cells. People infected with HIV are more likely to get AIDS

if their B12 levels are low, irrespective of whether they take

antiviral drugs. Methylcobalamin is required for both the synthesis and

function of immune cells. In a study on people with low tissue levels

of B12, methionine synthetase activity was very low, indicating that

very few immune cells were being synthesized. Treatment with

methylcobalamin restored immunity almost immediately.

[Guest guest]

All makes sense to me, but I am having great results from taking high

doses orally.

I like the sinus idea though. I might try that too.

>

> Does this make sense

>

> Healing thoughts,

>

> Wallace

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

> ----------

> B-12 Injection? No!

> Home  Topics like this one sound quacky, so let's set the matter

> straight from the start:

> If you do not like getting shots of B-12, you should be aware that

> intranasal absorption is the next best thing. Oral administration of

> B-12 is largely ineffective. This goes for so-called sublingual B-12

> supplements as well.

>

> VITAMIN B-12, unlike other B vitamins, is stored in muscle and other

> organs of the body. 

> A little B-12 goes a long way, what is stored lasts a long time, and

> it may take YEARS to deplete your body's reserves.  But sooner or

> later, usually later (after age 40), not only do poor eating habits

> catch up with us, but we also lose the ability to efficiently absorb

> what B-12 we do get from food. 

>

> COBALAMIN is the proper name for vitamin B-12. It is a really huge

> molecule (C 63, H 90, O 14, P, Co). The " Co " is for the one cobalt

> atom at its core. B-12 is obtained mostly, but not exclusively, by

> eating animal products such as dairy and meat. If you therefore think

> that you have to eat meat to get your B-12, consider this: Where do

> grass-and-grain-eating cattle get THEIR vitamin B-12? From synthesis

> by microorganisms in their gastrointestinal tract, that's where. And

> such synthesis in vegetarian animals is so tremendous that their milk

> and flesh is OUR source of B-12.  But it all actually came from their

> bacteria.

>

> Yes, B-12 is also synthesized in the human GI tract, but not reliably

> enough for most people. Such synthesis as occurs may be enhanced by a

> good vegetarian diet that favors an internal population of

> beneficial, B-12 making bacteria.

>

> But with our diets, we will need more than they can provide.

> Nutritional yeast, fermented soy foods such as tempeh, and sprouts

> (according to some sources) are vegetarian sources of dietary B-12.

>

> But there still is a physiological hurdle to cross.

>

> Absorption of dietary B-12 takes place in the very last part of the

> small intestine, right before the colon. Absorption requires a

> biochemical helper molecule called " intrinsic factor, " which is a

> glycoprotein normally secreted by cells lining your stomach. Strong

> stomach hydrochloric acid is also required to split up this huge

> molecule. (That's why a weak acid like vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is

> harmless to 

> B-12, persistent myths to the contrary).

>

> Incidentally, even sublingual (under-the-tongue) B-12 supplements are

> probably ineffective because the cobalamin molecule is too large to

> diffuse through the mucosa of the mouth.

>

> And if your body no longer makes intrinsic factor like it should, you

> cannot absorb oral B-12 supplements very well, either.

>

> The end result can be pernicious anemia, which is more than the

> classical inability to make enough hemoglobin for your red blood

> cells. Pernicious anemia also results in a sore mouth and tongue,

> assorted burning and tingling sensations (paresthesia), and

> eventually neurologic damage.  I think Meniere's, and dementia

> symptoms mistaken for Alzheimer's disease, might be a manifestation

> of this. 

>

> While there is a urine test for B-12 deficiency (the " isotope-

> dilution assay for urinary methylmalonic acid " ), to get it right it

> is necessary to measure the cerebrospinal fluid, not the blood, to

> get accurate B-12 readings. If you are not a Spinal Tap fan, consider

> a simple, non-invasive therapeutic trial of B-12. This is so

> inexpensive and safe that it would be difficult to deny it to anyone.

> I would suggest your doctor try a 1,000 microgram (mcg) injection at

> least once a week. Compared to the US RDA of only about 3 mcg, that

> dose may appear rather hefty. But given the miserable nature of

> Meniere's, erring on the high side may be preferable to unnecessarily

> delaying recovery. And l know of no side effects whatsoever to B-12

> overdose.

>

> If you do not like the idea of getting shots of B-12, you should be

> aware that intra-nasal (that is, by way of the nose) absorption is

> the next best thing. It sounds pretty weird, as duly promised at the

> beginning of this section, but it is an efficient delivery method for

> large-sized molecules whether you like the sound of it or not.

>

> Your nose has two choices:

>

> 1) Buy ready-to-use, over-the-counter B-12 gel, which you will

> occasionally find for sale in a pharmacy or health food store. Some

> products come in individual disposable packets. These are pricey.

>

> 2) Make your own B-12 intra-nasal supplement.  It is cheap, easy and

> best done behind closed doors. Obtain your doctor's OK before trying

> this procedure. Take any B-12 tablet (between 100 to 1,000 mcg) and

> grind it into a powder between two tablespoons.  Add water, just a

> few drops at a time, to make a soft paste.  With a " Q-Tip, " it's

> generic equivalent, or your clean pinkie finger, gently swab the

> paste inside your nose up to a comfortable level.  Do not push; use

> no force whatsoever. The excipients (tableting ingredients) are more

> likely to bother your schnoz than the B-12 is. If it irritates you,

> try using less, or a different brand of tablet.  I'd try this two

> times a week for a month or two.

>

> Feel free to quit at any time, and get B-12 shots instead.  Once in a

> great while,  doctors (such as " Children's Doctor " Lendon H. ,

> M.D.) will even teach you how to give yourself your B-12 shots, but

> that remains a singularly rare event.

>

> Hence this nose news.

>

> Copyright 2004 and prior years by W. Saul. From the book

> DOCTOR YOURSELF, available from Saul, Number 8 Van Buren

> Street, Holley, New York 14470 USA   Telephone (585) 638-5357.

> Reprinting requires the advance written permission of the author.

>

>

>

>

> Saul, PhD 

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

i think it is bc of the electrolytes being rebalanced, potassium helps

a lot, and start off slowly and build up.

> Yes, that is the Cheney recommendation.  However, when he prescribed

> it for me, and I tried it, it put me into very grave shape.  I reacted

> well the first day or so, then went into a deep crash.  Cheney finally

> decided that the reason I reacted to the high B12 dosage

> (hydroxycobalamin) was because it was chelating the high levels of

> mercury in my body (which he said was a different kind of mercury from

> that in my teeth fillings), and causing the VERY VERY BAD reaction.

>  

> So I advise anyone to be wary, even if they are being treated by a

> brilliant and very skilled physician.

>  

>

> [infections] Was Re: More info on Sino Fresh

> Now B12

>

> I took 10,000mcg (10mg) of B12 every day for years.  That is the

> Cheney reccommendation.  I have studies that show they have tested

> doses much higher than that to be safe.  This is hydroxycobalamin.  In

> my years of hearing from people on this protocol, I have never heard

> of an anaphylactic shock.  I'm not sure what your reaction is about,

> maybe to a preservative or filler?

>  

> Doris

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Colourbleu

>  

> ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THE LEVEL,

> I injected 1000mcg and had an Anaphylactic shock.

> My mother had a shock from just one tablet, Methyl 1000mcg

>

>

>

> Yes, started out with 6000mg injectable daily for

> several days.

> I am told that Stratton recommends highs doses of

> B12, are you doing

> this too?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

more than likely chelating homocysteine

> i think it is bc of the electrolytes being rebalanced, potassium helps

> a lot, and start off slowly and build up.

>

>

>

>> Yes, that is the Cheney recommendation.  However, when he prescribed

>> it for me, and I tried it, it put me into very grave shape.  I

>> reacted well the first day or so, then went into a deep crash. 

>> Cheney finally decided that the reason I reacted to the high B12

>> dosage (hydroxycobalamin) was because it was chelating the high

>> levels of mercury in my body (which he said was a different kind of

>> mercury from that in my teeth fillings), and causing the VERY VERY

>> BAD reaction.

>>  

>> So I advise anyone to be wary, even if they are being treated by a

>> brilliant and very skilled physician.

>>  

>>

>> [infections] Was Re: More info on Sino Fresh

>> Now B12

>>

>> I took 10,000mcg (10mg) of B12 every day for years.  That is the

>> Cheney reccommendation.  I have studies that show they have tested

>> doses much higher than that to be safe.  This is hydroxycobalamin. 

>> In my years of hearing from people on this protocol, I have never

>> heard of an anaphylactic shock.  I'm not sure what your reaction is

>> about, maybe to a preservative or filler?

>>  

>> Doris

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: Colourbleu

>>  

>> ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THE LEVEL,

>> I injected 1000mcg and had an Anaphylactic shock.

>> My mother had a shock from just one tablet, Methyl 1000mcg

>>

>>

>>

>> Yes, started out with 6000mg injectable daily for

>> several days.

>> I am told that Stratton recommends highs doses of

>> B12, are you doing

>> this too?

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Fantastic posts, these should be posted on CFSexperimental too.

>

> More

>

> Wallace

>

> Novel chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) theory finally produces detailed

> explanations for many CFS observations:

>

> Help Support this Reseach

>

> A novel theory of the cause of CFS has been published which is

> supported by diverse biochemical and physiological observations of

> CFS, while providing explanations for five of most difficult puzzles

> about this medical condition. The theory has been published by Dr.

> L. Pall (Professor of Biochemistry and Basic Medical Sciences,

> Washington State University) in several publications (1-4,9). The

> theory starts with the observation that infections that precede and

> may therefore induce CFS and related conditions act to induce

> excessive production of inflammatory cytokines that induce, in turn,

> the inducible nitric oxide synthase (iNOS). This enzyme, in turn,

> synthesizes excessive amounts of nitric oxide which reacts with

> another compound (superoxide) to produce the potent oxidant

> peroxynitrite (see Fig. 1). Peroxynitrite acts via six known

> biochemical mechanisms to increase the levels of both nitric oxide

> and superoxide which react to produce more peroxynitrite (Fig. 1). In

> this way, once peroxynitrite levels are elevated, they may act to

> continue the elevation, thus producing a self-sustaining vicious

> cycle (ref.1). It is this cycle, according to the theory, that

> maintains the chronic symptoms of CFS and it is this cycle,

> therefore, that must be interrupted to effectively treat this

> condition.

>

>

>

> Twelve different observations on chronic fatigue syndrome and its

> symptoms provide support for this theory:

>

> 1. The levels of neopterin, a marker for the induction of the

> inducible nitric oxide synthase are reported to be elevated in CFS

> (1).

>

> 2. Mitochondria are reported to be dysfunctional in CFS and

> mitochondria are known to be attacked by peroxynitrite and also by

> nitric oxide (1).

>

> 3. Both cis-aconitate and succinate levels are reported to be

> elevated in CFS and the enzymes that metabolize these two compounds

> are known to be inactivated by peroxynitrite (1).

>

> 4. The four inflammatory cytokines implicated have been reported to

> been reported to be elevated in 10 different studies of CFS (1,2).

>

> 5. These same inflammatory cytokines have been reported to induce

> fatigue when injected into humans (1).

>

> 6. An animal (mouse) model of CFS has " fatigue " induced by a

> bacterial extract that can induce both the inflammatory cytokines and

> also the inducible nitric oxide synthase.

>

> 7. Polyunsaturated fatty acid pools are reported to be depleted in

> CFS and such polyunsaturated fatty acids are known to be oxidized by

> oxidants such as peroxynitrite.

>

> 8. Anecdotal evidence has suggested that antioxidants such as

> coenzyme Q-10, flavonoids and glutathione precursors may be useful in

> CFS treatment, consistent with a role for an oxidant such as

> peroxynitrite.

>

> 9. Women are reported to produce more nitric oxide than men, possibly

> explaining the gender bias seen in CFS. A similar gender bias is seen

> in autoimmune diseases characterized by excessive peroxynitrite (i.e.

> lupus, rheumatoid arthritis).

>

> 10. Cases of CFS are associated with high levels of deleted

> mitochondria DNA, suggesting but not proving that mitochondrial

> dysfunction can produce the symptoms of CFS (1).

>

> 11. Biochemical similarities †" depletion of glutamine and cystine

> pools †" have been reported in CFS and several diseases

> characterized by elevated peroxynitrite levels, suggesting a similar

> biochemical basis for all of these conditions (1).

>

> 12. Because peroxynitrite is a potent oxidant, this theory predicts

> that oxidative stress will be elevated in CFS. There was no direct

> evidence for this when the theory was published but three subsequent

> papers have reported substantial evidence for such oxidative stress

> in CFS (5-7A). These results, may therefore, be considered to confirm

> important predictions of the theory, although the authors were

> unaware of this theory when they initiated these studies.

>

> CFS puzzles explained by the elevated nitric oxide/peroxynitrite

> theory:

>

> There are five different puzzles of CFS that are explained by this

> theory. The first of these, the chronic nature of CFS, is explained

> by the self-sustaining vicious cycle that is central to this theory.

> The second is how infection and other stress which often precede CFS

> may produce CFS. This theory predicts that each of these can lead

> into this mechanism by inducing excessive nitric oxide. Infection is

> not the only stress that may be involved in this way †" both

> physical trauma and severe psychological trauma can produce excessive

> nitric oxide synthesis (2). In addition, tissue hypoxia may induce

> this cycle by increasing levels of superoxide (the other precursor of

> peroxynitrite) (2).

>

> A third puzzle about CFS is how it leads to the many

> biochemical/physiological correlates reported to occur in CFS. This

> is discussed with the list of 12 such correlates described above.

>

> A fourth puzzle about CFS is how the diverse symptoms of this

> condition may be generated. It turns out that a variety of factors,

> including nitric oxide, superoxide, oxidative stress and

> mitochondrial/energy metabolism dysfunction may have important roles

> (2). For example, nitric oxide is known to stimulate the nociceptors

> that initiate the perception of pain, and therefore excessive nitric

> oxide may cause the multi-organ pain associated with CFS (2). Nitric

> oxide has a central role in learning and memory and so its elevation

> may also provide a partial explanation for the cognitive dysfunction

> characteristic of CFS (2). Other symptoms explained by this theory

> include orthostatic intolerance, immune dysfunction, fatigue and post-

> exertional malaise (2). The immune dysfunction reported in CFS, may

> allow for opportunistic infections to develop, such as mycoplasma or

> HHV6 infections, which may exacerbate the basic CFS mechanism by

> increasing inflammatory cytokine synthesis.

>

> What about multiple chemical sensitivity, posttraumatic stress

> disorder and fibromylagia?

>

> A fifth puzzle regarding CFS is its variable symptoms and, most

> importantly, its association with three other conditions of equally

> puzzling etiology, multiple chemical sensitivity (MCS), posttraumatic

> stress disorder (PTSD) and fibromylagia (FM). The theory explains the

> variable symptoms, from one case to another, in part, by a somewhat

> variable tissue distribution of the elevated nitric

> oxide/peroxynitrite.

>

> A common etiology (cause) for CFS with MCS, PTSD and FM has been

> suggested by others (discussed in refs 4,9). A common causal

> mechanism for these four conditions is suggested not only by the

> association among these different conditions (many people are

> afflicted by more than one) but also by the overlapping symptoms

> typically found in these four conditions (see refs. 4 and 9 for

> discussion). These overlaps raise the question about whether MCS, FM

> and PTSD may be caused by excessive nitric oxide and peroxynitrite.

> Each of these four conditions is reported to be often preceded by and

> possibly induced by exposure to a relatively short-term stress that

> can induce excessive nitric oxide synthesis.

>

> Pall and Satterlee (4) present a substantial case for an excessive

> nitric oxide/peroxynitrite cause for multiple chemical sensitivity

> (MCS), including the following:

>

> Organic solvents and pesticides whose exposure is reported to precede

> and presumably induce multiple chemical sensitivity, are also

> reported to induce excessive nitric oxide synthesis. Such chemicals

> are also reported to induce increased synthesis of inflammatory

> cytokines which induce, in turn, the inducible nitric oxide synthase

> (leading to increased synthesis of nitric oxide).

> Neopterin, a marker of induction of the inducible nitric oxide

> synthase, is reported to be elevated in MCS.

> Markers of oxidative stress are reported to be elevated in MCS, as

> predicted if excessive peroxynitrite is involved.

> In animal models of MCS, there is convincing evidence for an

> essential role for both excessive NMDA activity (where such activity

> is known to induce excessive nitric oxide) and for excessive nitric

> oxide synthesis itself. If one blocks the excessive nitric oxide

> synthesis in these animal models, the characteristic biological

> response is also blocked. This and other evidence shows the nitric

> oxide has an essential role (4).

> Somewhat similar evidence is available suggesting an elevated nitric

> oxide/peroxynitrite mechanism for both PTSD and FM (9). PTSD is

> thought to be induced by excessive NMDA stimulation, which, as

> discussed above, is known to produce excessive nitric oxide and

> peroxynitrite (9). Two inflammatory cytokines known to induce

> increased synthesis of nitric oxide have been reported to be elevated

> in PTSD. PTSD animal model studies have reported an essential role

> for both excessive NMDA stimulation and nitric oxide synthesis in

> producing the characteristic biological response.

>

> Interestingly, a recent study of FM implicates elevated nitric oxide

> and also elevated NMDA stimulation (8), and such NMDA stimulation is

> known to increase nitric oxide synthesis. As in the other conditions

> discussed here, there is a pattern of evidence from studies of FM

> patients, consistent with the proposed nitric oxide/peroxynitrite

> mechanism (9). The theory that elevated nitric oxide/peroxynitrite is

> responsible for the etiology of CFS, MCS, PTSD and FM appears to be

> the only mechanism to be proposed that explains the multiple overlaps

> among these four conditions. While the pattern of evidence supporting

> it cannot be considered definitive, the many types of evidence

> providing support for this view must be considered highly suggestive.

>

> What does this proposed mechanism suggest about CFS treatment? As

> discussed in ref 1, there are a number of agents that may be useful

> in the treatment of CFS, based primarily on anecdotal evidence, that

> are expected to lower the consequences of the proposed nitric

> oxide/peroxynitrite mechanism. Possibly the most intriguing such

> mechanism relates to the widespread use of vitamin B12 injections in

> treatment of CFS (3). Two forms of vitamin B12 are being used here,

> hydroxocobalamin, which is a nitric oxide scavenger and

> cyanocobalamin, which is converted to hydroxocobalamin by Pall human

> cells (3). These observations suggest that the nitric

> oxide/peroxynitrite proposed mechanism for CFS makes useful

> predictions for effective treatment. It is hoped that this proposed

> mechanism may allow us to optimize the use of these and other agents

> for treatment of CFS and related conditions.

>

> Other sites with thoughtful presentations that you may wish to access

> are as follows:

>

> http://www.cfsresearch.org/cfs/

>

> http://www.square-sun.co.uk/cfs-nim/

>

> http://www3.sympatico.ca/me-fm.action/

>

> References:

>

> 1. Pall ML. Elevated, sustained peroxynitrite levels as the cause of

> chronic fatigue syndrome. Medical Hypotheses 2000;54:115-125. (link)

>

> 2. Pall ML. Elevated peroxynitrite as the cause of chronic fatigue

> syndrome: Other inducers and mechanisms of symptom generation.

> Journal of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, 2000;7:45-58.

>

> 3. Pall ML. Cobalamin used in chronic fatigue syndrome therapy is a

> nitric oxide scavenger. Journal of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome,

> 2001;8:39-44.

>

> 4. Pall ML, Satterlee JD. Elevated nitric oxide/peroxynitrite

> mechanism for the common etiology of multiple chemical sensitivity,

> chronic fatigue syndrome and posttraumatic stress disorder. ls of

> the New York Academy of Science, 2001;933:323-329.

>

> 5. s RS, TK, Mathers MB, RH, McGregor NR, Butt

> HL. Investigation of erythrocyte oxidative damage in rheumatoid

> arthritis and chronic fatigue syndrome. Journal of Chronic Fatigue

> Syndrome 2000;6:37-46.

>

> 6. s RS, TK, McGregor NR, RH, Butt HL. Blood

> parameters indicative of oxidative stress are associated with symptom

> expression in chronic fatigue syndrome. Redox Rep 2000;5:35-41.

> (link)

>

> 7. Fulle S, Mecocci P, Fano G, Vecchiet I, Vecchini A, Racciotti D,

> Cherubini A, Pizzigallo E, Vecchiet L, Senin U, Beal MF. Specific

> oxidative alterations in vastus lateralis muscle of patients with the

> diagnosis of chronic fatigue syndrome. Free Radicals in Biology and

> Medicine 2000;15:1252-1259. (link)

>

> 7A. Keenoy BM, Moorkens G, Vertommen J, DeLeeuw I. Antioxidant

> strotus and lipoprotein oxidation in chronic fatigue syndrom. Life

> Sciences 2001;68:2037-2049.

>

> 8. Larson AA, Giovengo SL, IJ, Michalek JE. Changes in the

> concentrations of amino acids in the cerebrospinal fluid that

> correlate with pain in patients with fibromyalgia: implications for

> nitric oxide pathways. Pain 2000;87:201-211. (link)

>

> 9. Pall ML. Common etiology of posttraumatic stress disorder,

> fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome and multiple chemical

> sensitivity via elevated nitric oxide/peroxynitrite, Medical

> Hypotheses, 2001;57:139-145.

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MYELOPATHY - Cobalamin, Vitamin B12 - In a study of 6 patients with

vitamin B12 deficiency who had clinical symptoms of sensory loss,

paresthesias, ataxia and, upon magnetic resonance imaging (MRI),

lesions mainly in the posterior columns of the cervical spinal cord,

following intramuscular vitamin-B12 injections and follow-up 4 to 19

months after treatment began, there was improvement in all patients,

but not complete remission. A follow-up MRI showed disappearance of

the lesions in 4 patients. In 1 case, the clinical symptoms and MRI-

lesions were only slightly improved with 4 months of treatment. This

study of 6 patients showed that spinal MRI lesions in cobalamin-

deficient myelopathic patients completely remitted under

intramuscular vitamin B12 therapy. " Cobalamin Deficiency:

Clinical Course and Disappearance of Spinal MRI-Lesions With

Treatment of Vitamin B12, " Hengst S, Cordes P, et al, Akt Neurol,

2004;31:333-337. (Address: Prof. Dr. Med. Karl Wessel, E-mail:

k.wessel@...) 42825

Arnold

[Guest guest]

Vitamin B Complex (contains B12 too) is very good.

Sometimes doctors give Vitamin B12 shots to people who need an extra boost.

It may help with brain fog. . . . It certainly wouldn't hurt.

Rogene

b12

does this help with brain fog?mine is worse again and i need somerthing.

[Guest guest]

Beth . . . anyone with a systemic fungal/yeast/Candida problem will have a problem getting nutrients from their diet or supplements. . .

That's why Dr. Kolb puts so much emphasis on treating fungal issues.

We must have a large variety of beneficial organisms in our bodies to carry out a wide range of body functions. . . The negative organisms kill off the beneficial organisms and interfere with this process.

Hence we must, first suppress the overgrowth of negative organisms, then restore or supplement the beneficial organisms.

Liquid vitamins and minerals appear to be easier to assimilate.

Rogene

[Guest guest]

I thought vit B12..wasn't good for CMT.

Geri

[Guest guest]

Hi Geri,

B12 is great... it's B6 you need to be careful with.

Kay

[Guest guest]

Thank you.I thought it was B12 as well.

Geri

[Guest guest]

Never heard of B12 to help balance. Do you know how/why it works?

>

> Hi Geri,

>

> B12 is great... it's B6 you need to be careful with.

>

> Kay

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I found this site on B12. It was so long ago that I can't remember what Dr told

me about B12. All I know is that it works...

Kay

[Guest guest]

And that's good enough for me. I am going to add B12 to my vitamins.

Thank you Kay

In a message dated 7/21/2008 2:47:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

omega@... writes:

All I know is that it works...

[Guest guest]

Another CMTer gave me a list of vitamins that she has been taking to

help her CMT symptoms, I have not started them yet because I am going

to see a homeopathic doc and check with him before I start takinging

anything that may be harmful. Anyhoo on the list is B12, anyone know

of any concerns of B12 for CMTers?

[Guest guest]

Search the Message Archives for past posts on this.

[Guest guest]

SIDE EFFECTS: Nausea, stomach upset, or unpleasant taste may occur.

If any of these effects persist or worsen, notify your doctor. Tell

your doctor if any of these highly unlikely but very serious side

effects occur: tingling or numbness of the hands or feet, mental/mood

changes, unusual weakness.

An allergic reaction to this vitamin product is unlikely, but seek

immediate medical attention if it occurs. Symptoms of an allergic

reaction include: rash, itching, swelling, dizziness, trouble

breathing. If you notice other effects not listed above, contact your

doctor or pharmacist.

PRECAUTIONS: Before taking this medication, tell your doctor or

pharmacist your medical history, especially of: certain blood

disorders (e.g., megaloblastic anemia, pernicious anemia), any

allergies.

DRUG INTERACTIONS: This drug is not recommended for use with:

altretamine, cisplatin. Ask your doctor or pharmacist for more

details. Tell your doctor of all prescription and nonprescription

medication you may use, especially: other vitamin products,

pyrimethamine, hydantoins (e.g., phenytoin * on the CMT Medical Alert

list* ), levodopa. Do not start or stop any medicine without doctor

or pharmacist approval.

more at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12#Side_effects.2C_contraindicat

ions.2C_and_warnings