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Welcome Harsh (is this your real name? If so, very unsual! If not, we ask

that you at least use your first real name here when signing your posts).

> Can you please tell me how one enters the challenge ???

Does

> it have to start on a particular date ??? We are starting from today and I

> just registered on the BFL website and the website says that all you need

> is your beofre and after photos... But at the same time I saw sme list

> member here post a mail that she was entering her 2nd challenge on May

> 26th... So is the challenge date specific???

You can start any time and finish any time 12 weeks after your start date.

You can enter up to 4 times a year, and your dates must not overlap.

> M1 : Oatmeal + 1tbsp. Flax Seed Oil + 1/2 scoop Whey Protein.

How much oatmeal? I'm a female and I eat 1/3 to 1/2 cup (dry).

How many grams of protein are in a scoop? I doubt that 1/2 scoop is enough.

> M2 : Strawberries + 1 spoon Cottage Cheese.

How many strawberries? they are really yummy and I throw in a few extra

because they are really low cal/low carb.

How big is a spoon of Cottage cheese? Regardless, you probably aren't

eating enough. I eat 1 cup of cottage cheese per meal. I would guess you

need *at least* that since you are a male (assume). I believe that Brett

eats up to 2 cups. We really need your weight, your bf% and your goals to

know how much you need.

> M3 : Tuna mixed with 1/2 egg + onion + fat free mayonnaise + 2 toasts

(whole

> wheat bread) + cucumbers

That 1/2 egg, do you include the yolk? how do you do 1/2 an egg? I'd try to

skip that step or leave out yolks. Raw? EW!! lol.

Anyway, how much tuna? I'll eat around 1/2 a can (6 oz). Tuna is weird

because if you're female, you probably won't be eating a whole can... thus,

what to do with the rest.

WW bread is " reluctantly " authorized. It's ok once in a while, but avoid

eating it more than once a day. (that one is hard for me !)

> M4 : Yopalit fat free yoghurt + 1 spoon cottage cheese

Yogurt is good. Assuming you're eating a whole carton.

Cottage cheese.. refer to above

> M5 : Whey Protein shake + 1/2 apple

How many carbs are in your protein shake? If it's balanced, nix the apple.

If it's not, does the 1/2 apple balance it out? If not, then why not a

whole apple??

> M6 : Chicken breast(grilled)[Marinated in low fat marinade] , brown rice ,

> cucumbers & mushrooms onions & 1 tbsp of safflower oil.

All of that looks pretty good if you're eating the right portions. Careful

with brown rice, you can easily eat *too much* of it!

Is safflower oil an EFA? I think I'd stick to flaxseed oil myself.

Watch the sugar content on that marinade. If they take something out they

usually replace it with something else to make it taste good. Low fat

doesn't necessarily mean low cal.

> p.s: Although I have taken my " before " photos, my grifriend is not very

> keen on taking photos..so I guess I will be entering the challenge alone,

> although we both will work out and follow the meal plans.

You should talk her into it. If she doesn't, and does well, she'll

completely regret it later. You could take them, and then tell her you will

not let her see them until she loses 10 pounds (or whatever her goals is).

She'll really appreciate it I swear.

Hope this helps

Lana

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Hi Lana,

" Harsh " is my real name. LOL! I am from India and " Harsh " means

happiness...But I know how it may sound to an American...I am living in

Illinois and whenever I go to a restaurant and give my name for the order,

the people are a little taken aback.. LOL...but thats alright....

I ate 1/2 a cup of oatmeal. Adn yes, from tomorrow I will

make sure I add at least 1 scoop.

I ate 6-7 strawberries with 2 spoons of cottage cheese. Yeah, I will eat at

least 1/2 cup cottage chees from tomorrow.

The egg was boiled and then mixed. One doubt :Why should I

stay away from the yolk ??? have been thinking about that since last

week.Cos they tell you to only eat the egg-whites.Why is that??

I dont know how many caloeries per scoop, the whey protein

has. But how do i make sure that I am balancing the right amounth of carb

e.g apple, with the protein shake???

Although my grifriend is enthusiastic about the whole diet

and workout, it took a little prodding to get her this far. I feel that she

is not as fired up as I am about this. I think thats why she is not so eager

to take the snaps. I read the Body_for_life book again and again all the

time.I must have read it at least 10 times now. I just like every chapter in

teh book and read the success stories again and again and I get really fired

up about it. But she is not as keen as I am ... Lets see how it goes.

Anyway, thanks Lana for your help and detailed

questions...This throws light on all the intricate details of the diet that

I may be missing out on.

Thanks

Harsh Desai

>

>Reply-To: bodyforlife

>To: <bodyforlife >

>Subject: Re: BFL Challenge

>Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 10:47:34 -0500

>

>Welcome Harsh (is this your real name? If so, very unsual! If not, we ask

>that you at least use your first real name here when signing your posts).

>

> > Can you please tell me how one enters the challenge ???

>Does

> > it have to start on a particular date ??? We are starting from today and

>I

> > just registered on the BFL website and the website says that all you

>need

> > is your beofre and after photos... But at the same time I saw sme list

> > member here post a mail that she was entering her 2nd challenge on May

> > 26th... So is the challenge date specific???

>

>You can start any time and finish any time 12 weeks after your start date.

>You can enter up to 4 times a year, and your dates must not overlap.

>

>

> > M1 : Oatmeal + 1tbsp. Flax Seed Oil + 1/2 scoop Whey Protein.

>

>How much oatmeal? I'm a female and I eat 1/3 to 1/2 cup (dry).

>How many grams of protein are in a scoop? I doubt that 1/2 scoop is

>enough.

>

> > M2 : Strawberries + 1 spoon Cottage Cheese.

>

>How many strawberries? they are really yummy and I throw in a few extra

>because they are really low cal/low carb.

>How big is a spoon of Cottage cheese? Regardless, you probably aren't

>eating enough. I eat 1 cup of cottage cheese per meal. I would guess you

>need *at least* that since you are a male (assume). I believe that Brett

>eats up to 2 cups. We really need your weight, your bf% and your goals to

>know how much you need.

>

> > M3 : Tuna mixed with 1/2 egg + onion + fat free mayonnaise + 2 toasts

>(whole

> > wheat bread) + cucumbers

>

>That 1/2 egg, do you include the yolk? how do you do 1/2 an egg? I'd try

>to

>skip that step or leave out yolks. Raw? EW!! lol.

>Anyway, how much tuna? I'll eat around 1/2 a can (6 oz). Tuna is weird

>because if you're female, you probably won't be eating a whole can... thus,

>what to do with the rest.

>WW bread is " reluctantly " authorized. It's ok once in a while, but avoid

>eating it more than once a day. (that one is hard for me !)

>

> > M4 : Yopalit fat free yoghurt + 1 spoon cottage cheese

>Yogurt is good. Assuming you're eating a whole carton.

>Cottage cheese.. refer to above

>

> > M5 : Whey Protein shake + 1/2 apple

>How many carbs are in your protein shake? If it's balanced, nix the apple.

>If it's not, does the 1/2 apple balance it out? If not, then why not a

>whole apple??

>

> > M6 : Chicken breast(grilled)[Marinated in low fat marinade] , brown rice

>,

> > cucumbers & mushrooms onions & 1 tbsp of safflower oil.

>

>All of that looks pretty good if you're eating the right portions. Careful

>with brown rice, you can easily eat *too much* of it!

>Is safflower oil an EFA? I think I'd stick to flaxseed oil myself.

>Watch the sugar content on that marinade. If they take something out they

>usually replace it with something else to make it taste good. Low fat

>doesn't necessarily mean low cal.

>

>

> > p.s: Although I have taken my " before " photos, my grifriend is not very

> > keen on taking photos..so I guess I will be entering the challenge

>alone,

> > although we both will work out and follow the meal plans.

>

>You should talk her into it. If she doesn't, and does well, she'll

>completely regret it later. You could take them, and then tell her you

>will

>not let her see them until she loses 10 pounds (or whatever her goals is).

>She'll really appreciate it I swear.

>

>Hope this helps

>Lana

>

>

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Welcome Harsh ....and your girlfriend!

What a wonderful decision you have made to do the Body For Life Protgram. I

am on my 4th challenge since October 2001. You can see my photos at <A

HREF= " http://www.body-for-life-tracker.com/searchprofile.cfm?id=1466 " >

http://www.body-for-life-tracker.com/searchprofile.cfm?id=1466</A>. I am very

proud of the results I have enjoyed from participation in this program. I

would never have really noticed the changes in my body had I not taken those

pictures. Many others on this list have made some amazing and admirable

changes as a result of doing this program, and many pictures are posted at

our website under 'files'. Most of us have not regretted one minute of the

hard work, commitment and sacrifice this program has demanded of us. It has

become a way of living for many of us.

So Please let me welcome you to our discussion group and say that I look

forward to your participation.

Kelley

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> " Harsh " is my real name. LOL! I am from India and " Harsh " means

> happiness...But I know how it may sound to an American...I am living in

> Illinois and whenever I go to a restaurant and give my name for the order,

> the people are a little taken aback.. LOL...but thats alright....

Well welcome Harsh! My son's middle name is Tee (family name) so unusual

names are no biggie to me. Just makins sure it wasn't an online ID/nick.

> I ate 1/2 a cup of oatmeal. Adn yes, from tomorrow I will

> make sure I add at least 1 scoop.

One scoop of protein? How many grams of protien per scoop? That will help

us determine if you're eating enough. Before I go any further, how much do

you weigh, do you know your bf % and what are your goals (to gain

muscle/size maybe? or lose fat?)

> I ate 6-7 strawberries with 2 spoons of cottage cheese. Yeah, I will eat

at

> least 1/2 cup cottage chees from tomorrow.

Honestly, 1/2 cup probably isn't enough either! that's only 13 grams of

protein. *I* eat a full cup, and like I said, I'm a girl, so you, being a

guy, probably need at least what I'm eating. (most women eat 1/2 (very low)

to 1 cup. Most guys eat 1 - 2 cups).

A note about proteins... When doing bfl, you should follow the palm rule.

(size of your protein is the size of your hand minus the fingers).

EXCEPTIONS are: " fluffy " proteins (as jenb calls them) like cottage cheese

and egg whites. I recommend making those proteins the size of your carbs.

> The egg was boiled and then mixed. One doubt :Why should I

> stay away from the yolk ??? have been thinking about that since last

> week.Cos they tell you to only eat the egg-whites.Why is that??

Their is alot of fat in the yolk, and cholesterol, so it's really not the

best for you. Plus there's really not *that much* extra protein to make it

worth it. I used to have up to 3 yolks a day (every time I ate eggs I'd have

a yolk). I've since weened myself off yolks completely. I can't stand the

smell of them now!!

> I dont know how many caloeries per scoop, the whey protein

> has. But how do i make sure that I am balancing the right amounth of carb

> e.g apple, with the protein shake???

It should say on the bottle where the nutrition information is how many

grams are in a scoop. A scoop is probably considered a serving.

As a rule of thumb, many ppl make their grams of carbs and grams of protein

the same per serving. It will vary slightly in bfl depending on what you're

eating. But if you're using a shake, you want to make sure it has close to

the same amount of carbs (low in sugar) as it does protein. You don't have

to be anal about it, just so it's near that.

>

> Although my grifriend is enthusiastic about the whole diet

> and workout, it took a little prodding to get her this far. I feel that

she

> is not as fired up as I am about this. I think thats why she is not so

eager

> to take the snaps. I read the Body_for_life book again and again all the

> time.I must have read it at least 10 times now. I just like every chapter

in

> teh book and read the success stories again and again and I get really

fired

> up about it. But she is not as keen as I am ... Lets see how it goes.

Well, at least she's trying! that's something. When she has some success,

she'll probably get more fired up too. If she doesn't, then you can't force

someone to do something they dont' want to!

> Anyway, thanks Lana for your help and detailed

> questions...This throws light on all the intricate details of the diet

that

> I may be missing out on.

I always worry about information overload for newbies. (it happened to me..

my brain shut off when I first came here). lol. Just hoping that a little

extra information will be enough to push you over the edge and make you

super successful!

Glad to be of help

Lana

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Hi Lana,

>One scoop of protein? How many grams of protien per scoop? That will help

>us determine if you're eating enough. Before I go any further, how much do

>you weigh, do you know your bf % and what are your goals (to gain

>muscle/size maybe? or lose fat?)

I checked the amount of protein per scoop ..Its 22

mg/g.(?). I had 1/2 cup of oatmeal(dry) with 1 scoop of protein and 1

tablespoon flax seed oil.

>Honestly, 1/2 cup probably isn't enough either! that's only 13 grams of

>protein. *I* eat a full cup, and like I said, I'm a girl, so you, being a

>guy, probably need at least what I'm eating. (most women eat 1/2 (very

>low)

>to 1 cup. Most guys eat 1 - 2 cups).

>

About the cottage cheese, I just find it hard to eat it all by itself. I

cant swallow it down unless its mixed with something. I'll have to come up

with some combination that will make it easy for me to eat 1-2 cups of it.

I feel that it will take me the first week of this

challenge or the whole of this 1st challenge to improvise on diet and learn

from " eating mistakes " .

I am so glad I fond this list. I should have thjought

of it before.. it would have saved me 5 months of working out without

eaiting properly...anyway.... its never too late.

Thanks Lana, and for your help.

Harsh

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Hi All,

This is my meal plan for today .Please let me know if I am

doing it right...

M1 :- oatmeal + 1scoop protein + 1 tbsp flx seed oil

M2 :- 8-9 strawberries 1 cup cottage cheese

M3 :- tuna s/w with onions + 2 ww bread + cucumber + tomato

M4 :- yogurt

M5 :- myoplex shake

M6 :- chicken breast + baked potato + mushrooms & onions & peas in canola

oil.

Thanks

Harsh

p.s : We go to the gym in the evenings so I am planing to take a protein

shake right after I come back to compansate for no protein in M4...Will that

balance the meals ???

p.p.s : Do any of you work out in th evening ???How do you plan your meals

???

p.p.p.s : Is 1 glass of Myplox shake enough as a meal?? I mean, is it

balanced in carbs and protein ??? or do you add something to it ???

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Is there some way you could schedule your meals so that the meal

after your workout includes the carb? The protein and carb should be

eaten together.

Myoplex is supposed to be balanced.

Whenever I was working out in the evenings, I'd eat a meal at 3 pm,

and then do cardio at 5:30. If you are trying to lose fat, you are

supposed to go without food for 3 hours before cardio or do it in the

morning on an empty stomach. If it was a weight day, I'd do my

workout right after eating dinner at 6:30 pm.

Currently, I always get up a little before 6 am and do my workouts

and this is working out great for me. It is just better for me since

it is now a set schedule and I rarely have to worry about something

interfering with the workout at that time of day.

Andy

> Hi All,

> This is my meal plan for today .Please let me know if

I am

> doing it right...

> M1 :- oatmeal + 1scoop protein + 1 tbsp flx seed oil

> M2 :- 8-9 strawberries 1 cup cottage cheese

> M3 :- tuna s/w with onions + 2 ww bread + cucumber + tomato

> M4 :- yogurt

> M5 :- myoplex shake

> M6 :- chicken breast + baked potato + mushrooms & onions & peas in

canola

> oil.

>

> Thanks

> Harsh

>

> p.s : We go to the gym in the evenings so I am planing to take a

protein

> shake right after I come back to compansate for no protein in

M4...Will that

> balance the meals ???

>

> p.p.s : Do any of you work out in th evening ???How do you plan

your meals

> ???

>

> p.p.p.s : Is 1 glass of Myplox shake enough as a meal?? I mean, is

it

> balanced in carbs and protein ??? or do you add something to it ???

>

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