Re: Fw: [MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis] I Have .. Help!!!

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Hi! The loss of control of the rectal sphincter

muscle was the first and most horrifying of my MS

symptoms. (Imagine a librarian helping patrons in the

Indianapolis School System Teachers Library to include

all administrators who is walking around with no

control of gas! The physiologist at Texas A & M who was

doing Hyperbaric Oxygen research told me MS targets

certain muscles--back and stomach. I'll add sphincter.

Now I'm fighting diarrhea since last July's hospital

overnight. LDN seems to help slowly. Am about to try

White Oak bark tea. Blackberry root tea more work, but

in yard. Embarrassing but not overwhelming! Time to

get tough! Best, shylotz

--- tom bayuk <tbayuk@...> wrote:

>

> Re: [MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis] I Have ..

> Help!!!

>

>

> In a message dated 5/16/2005 9:25:01 P.M. Eastern

> Daylight Time, mariposa4249@... writes:

>

> Does anyone know what's good for the problem of

> bowel incontinence?

>

> Really would appreciate some help on this.

>

> Thanx a bunch,

>

> Angie

>

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> In women, weakened pelvic-floor muscles are often

> the result of childbirth or a surgical operation.

>

> In both sexes, stretching of pelvic-floor nerves

> goes hand in hand with the Western habit of sitting

> on the toilet for a bowel motion rather than

> squatting the way all primitive peoples have done

> and some peoples still do. When we sit to defaecate,

> a kink in the rectum (that prevents bowel

> incontinence) remains kinked, tending to produce

> constipation. Straining to overcome this resistance

> day after day, year after year, stretches

> pelvic-floor nerves.

>

> I am sorry this is happening to you, this is very

> complicated, does the above apply. Have you had

> children, have you had lots of the constipation, is

> your stool hard.

>

> I would work on soothing the intestines, I would

> work on bacteria, I would work on relaxing muscle, I

> would work on repairing nerves, this will take a

> while, it will not be a comfortable task. You may

> want to read my friends book, this happens quite

> often when people suffer with the illness like

> multiple sclerosis his book can be found at

>

http://www.copingandprevailing.com/coping3review.html

> or you can contact Tom directly at

> tbayuk@...

>

>

> No information in this letter should be construed

> as medical advice.

> This information is for educational purposes only.

>

> Jeff el

> 10360 Pine Lakes Blvd

> North Fort Myers, Fl 33903

> 239-731-2655

> http://www.msprotocols.com/

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that is why pilates is so good for ms if you are able to do it. you need to strenghten your core.

Re: [MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis] I Have ..> Help!!!> > > In a message dated 5/16/2005 9:25:01 P.M. Eastern> Daylight Time, mariposa4249@... writes:> > Does anyone know what's good for the problem of> bowel incontinence?> > Really would appreciate some help on this.> > Thanx a bunch,> > Angie >=============================================================> In women, weakened pelvic-floor muscles are often> the result of childbirth or a surgical operation. > > In both sexes, stretching of pelvic-floor nerves> goes hand in hand with the Western habit of sitting> on the toilet for a bowel motion rather than> squatting the way all primitive peoples have done> and some peoples still do. When we sit to defaecate,> a kink in the rectum (that prevents bowel> incontinence) remains kinked, tending to produce> constipation. Straining to overcome this resistance> day after day, year after year, stretches> pelvic-floor nerves. > > I am sorry this is happening to you, this is very> complicated, does the above apply. Have you had> children, have you had lots of the constipation, is> your stool hard.> > I would work on soothing the intestines, I would> work on bacteria, I would work on relaxing muscle, I> would work on repairing nerves, this will take a> while, it will not be a comfortable task. You may> want to read my friends book, this happens quite> often when people suffer with the illness like> multiple sclerosis his book can be found at>http://www.copingandprevailing.com/coping3review.html> or you can contact Tom directly at> tbayuk@...> > > No information in this letter should be construed> as medical advice.> This information is for educational purposes only.> > Jeff el> 10360 Pine Lakes Blvd> North Fort Myers, Fl 33903> 239-731-2655> http://www.msprotocols.com/> > > Link for chat:> >MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis/chat> > Photos:>http://photos./group/MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis/lst> Group Home:>MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis> MyMSViews Home: http://www.mymsviews.org Home:>MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis> MyMSViews Home: http://www.mymsviews.org > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------->

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The best thing that has worked for me is using at least 2 tablespoons of crushed flax seed oil in with my morning hot cerial. Also, it is very good to drink a lot of water.

Re: [MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis] I Have .. Help!!!

In a message dated 5/16/2005 9:25:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mariposa4249@... writes:

Does anyone know what's good for the problem of bowel incontinence?

Really would appreciate some help on this.

Thanx a bunch,

Angie

=============================================================

In women, weakened pelvic-floor muscles are often the result of childbirth or a surgical operation.

In both sexes, stretching of pelvic-floor nerves goes hand in hand with the Western habit of sitting on the toilet for a bowel motion rather than squatting the way all primitive peoples have done and some peoples still do. When we sit to defaecate, a kink in the rectum (that prevents bowel incontinence) remains kinked, tending to produce constipation. Straining to overcome this resistance day after day, year after year, stretches pelvic-floor nerves.

I am sorry this is happening to you, this is very complicated, does the above apply. Have you had children, have you had lots of the constipation, is your stool hard.

I would work on soothing the intestines, I would work on bacteria, I would work on relaxing muscle, I would work on repairing nerves, this will take a while, it will not be a comfortable task. You may want to read my friends book, this happens quite often when people suffer with the illness like multiple sclerosis his book can be found at http://www.copingandprevailing.com/coping3review.html or you can contact Tom directly at tbayuk@...

No information in this letter should be construed as medical advice. This information is for educational purposes only.Jeff el10360 Pine Lakes BlvdNorth Fort Myers, Fl 33903239-731-2655http://www.msprotocols.com/Link for chat: MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis/chat Photos:http://photos./group/MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis/lstGroup Home: MSViews_Multiple_SclerosisMyMSViews Home: http://www.mymsviews.org Home: MSViews_Multiple_SclerosisMyMSViews Home: http://www.mymsviews.org

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Thanx, Shirley. I agree. I'm going to try doing it.

Angiekathy lintzenich <mykittypaws@...> wrote:

that is why pilates is so good for ms if you are able to do it. you need to strenghten your core.

Re: [MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis] I Have ..> Help!!!> > > In a message dated 5/16/2005 9:25:01 P.M. Eastern> Daylight Time, mariposa4249@... writes:> > Does anyone know what's good for the problem of> bowel incontinence?> > Really would appreciate some help on this.> > Thanx a bunch,> > Angie >=============================================================> In women, weakened pelvic-floor muscles are often> the result of childbirth or a surgical operation. > > In both sexes, stretching of pelvic-floor nerves> goes hand in hand with the Western habit of sitting> on the toilet for a bowel motion rather than> squatting the way all primitive peoples have done> and some peoples still do. When we sit to defaecate,> a kink in the

rectum (that prevents bowel> incontinence) remains kinked, tending to produce> constipation. Straining to overcome this resistance> day after day, year after year, stretches> pelvic-floor nerves. > > I am sorry this is happening to you, this is very> complicated, does the above apply. Have you had> children, have you had lots of the constipation, is> your stool hard.> > I would work on soothing the intestines, I would> work on bacteria, I would work on relaxing muscle, I> would work on repairing nerves, this will take a> while, it will not be a comfortable task. You may> want to read my friends book, this happens quite> often when people suffer with the illness like> multiple sclerosis his book can be found at>http://www.copingandprevailing.com/coping3review.html> or

you can contact Tom directly at> tbayuk@...> > > No information in this letter should be construed> as medical advice.> This information is for educational purposes only.> > Jeff el> 10360 Pine Lakes Blvd> North Fort Myers, Fl 33903> 239-731-2655> http://www.msprotocols.com/> > > Link for chat:> >MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis/chat> > Photos:>http://photos./group/MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis/lst> Group Home:>MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis> MyMSViews Home: http://www.mymsviews.org Home:>MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis> MyMSViews Home: http://www.mymsviews.org > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------->

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Thanx, Shylotz.

Will keep all your advice in mind.

Angiekathy lintzenich <mykittypaws@...> wrote:

that is why pilates is so good for ms if you are able to do it. you need to strenghten your core.

Re: [MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis] I Have ..> Help!!!> > > In a message dated 5/16/2005 9:25:01 P.M. Eastern> Daylight Time, mariposa4249@... writes:> > Does anyone know what's good for the problem of> bowel incontinence?> > Really would appreciate some help on this.> > Thanx a bunch,> > Angie >=============================================================> In women, weakened pelvic-floor muscles are often> the result of childbirth or a surgical operation. > > In both sexes, stretching of pelvic-floor nerves> goes hand in hand with the Western habit of sitting> on the toilet for a bowel motion rather than> squatting the way all primitive peoples have done> and some peoples still do. When we sit to defaecate,> a kink in the

rectum (that prevents bowel> incontinence) remains kinked, tending to produce> constipation. Straining to overcome this resistance> day after day, year after year, stretches> pelvic-floor nerves. > > I am sorry this is happening to you, this is very> complicated, does the above apply. Have you had> children, have you had lots of the constipation, is> your stool hard.> > I would work on soothing the intestines, I would> work on bacteria, I would work on relaxing muscle, I> would work on repairing nerves, this will take a> while, it will not be a comfortable task. You may> want to read my friends book, this happens quite> often when people suffer with the illness like> multiple sclerosis his book can be found at>http://www.copingandprevailing.com/coping3review.html> or

you can contact Tom directly at> tbayuk@...> > > No information in this letter should be construed> as medical advice.> This information is for educational purposes only.> > Jeff el> 10360 Pine Lakes Blvd> North Fort Myers, Fl 33903> 239-731-2655> http://www.msprotocols.com/> > > Link for chat:> >MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis/chat> > Photos:>http://photos./group/MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis/lst> Group Home:>MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis> MyMSViews Home: http://www.mymsviews.org Home:>MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis> MyMSViews Home: http://www.mymsviews.org > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------->

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Hi, Shirley,

Someone told me they handled their bowel incontinence with a rx they got from their doc for a drug called 'Glyxolax,' which came out in 2004.

Angie ;)Shirley Lotz <shylotz@...> wrote:

Hi! The loss of control of the rectal sphinctermuscle was the first and most horrifying of my MSsymptoms. (Imagine a librarian helping patrons in theIndianapolis School System Teachers Library to includeall administrators who is walking around with nocontrol of gas! The physiologist at Texas A & M who wasdoing Hyperbaric Oxygen research told me MS targetscertain muscles--back and stomach. I'll add sphincter.Now I'm fighting diarrhea since last July's hospitalovernight. LDN seems to help slowly. Am about to tryWhite Oak bark tea. Blackberry root tea more work, butin yard. Embarrassing but not overwhelming! Time toget tough! Best, shylotz--- tom bayuk <tbayuk@...> wrote:> > Re: [MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis] I Have ..> Help!!!> > > In a message dated 5/16/2005 9:25:01 P.M. Eastern> Daylight Time, mariposa4249@... writes:> > Does anyone know what's good for the problem of> bowel incontinence?> > Really would appreciate some help on this.> > Thanx a bunch,> > Angie >=============================================================> In women, weakened pelvic-floor muscles are often> the result of childbirth or a surgical operation. > > In both sexes, stretching of pelvic-floor nerves> goes hand in hand with the Western habit of sitting> on the toilet for a bowel motion rather than> squatting the way all primitive peoples have

done> and some peoples still do. When we sit to defaecate,> a kink in the rectum (that prevents bowel> incontinence) remains kinked, tending to produce> constipation. Straining to overcome this resistance> day after day, year after year, stretches> pelvic-floor nerves. > > I am sorry this is happening to you, this is very> complicated, does the above apply. Have you had> children, have you had lots of the constipation, is> your stool hard.> > I would work on soothing the intestines, I would> work on bacteria, I would work on relaxing muscle, I> would work on repairing nerves, this will take a> while, it will not be a comfortable task. You may> want to read my friends book, this happens quite> often when people suffer with the illness like> multiple sclerosis his book can be found at>http://www.copingandprevailing.com/coping3review.html> or you can contact Tom directly at> tbayuk@...> > > No information in this letter should be construed> as medical advice.> This information is for educational purposes only.> > Jeff el> 10360 Pine Lakes Blvd> North Fort Myers, Fl 33903> 239-731-2655> http://www.msprotocols.com/> > > Link for chat:> >MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis/chat> > Photos:>http://photos./group/MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis/lst> Group

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hi my name is monica! i come from perth and ive had ms for 6 yrs now, i seen in your reply u have bowel problems? well i had the say this 4 yrs, i was trying ever bloody medication and herbal i could i ate fruit and veggies till come out of my ears, so one day i was told 2 try licorice and behold it done wonders 4 me and i havent looked back. i go 2 the loo now 3 maybe 4 times a day, on my bad days i go once, but ay at least its happening. i buy 4 packs of licorice aweek, i eat 3 at night and hr before bed, and if i havent been at all that day, ill eat more, i rather eat them than take tablets or other rubbish, i still eat my fruit and veggies, but i dont have 2 worry when im going 2 go 2 the loo! if u need more info able the subject, well ill past on my email adddress, nice 2 meet u bye 4 noe from monica from downunder!

Angie Mendez <mariposa4249@...> wrote:

Hi, Shirley,

Someone told me they handled their bowel incontinence with a rx they got from their doc for a drug called 'Glyxolax,' which came out in 2004.

Angie ;)Shirley Lotz <shylotz@...> wrote:

Hi! The loss of control of the rectal sphinctermuscle was the first and most horrifying of my MSsymptoms. (Imagine a librarian helping patrons in theIndianapolis School System Teachers Library to includeall administrators who is walking around with nocontrol of gas! The physiologist at Texas A & M who wasdoing Hyperbaric Oxygen research told me MS targetscertain muscles--back and stomach. I'll add sphincter.Now I'm fighting diarrhea since last July's hospitalovernight. LDN seems to help slowly. Am about to tryWhite Oak bark tea. Blackberry root tea more work, butin yard. Embarrassing but not overwhelming! Time toget tough! Best, shylotz--- tom bayuk <tbayuk@...> wrote:> > Re: [MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis] I Have ..> Help!!!> > > In a message dated 5/16/2005 9:25:01 P.M. Eastern> Daylight Time, mariposa4249@... writes:> > Does anyone know what's good for the problem of> bowel incontinence?> > Really would appreciate some help on this.> > Thanx a bunch,> > Angie >=============================================================> In women, weakened pelvic-floor muscles are often> the result of childbirth or a surgical operation. > > In both sexes, stretching of pelvic-floor nerves> goes hand in hand with the Western habit of sitting> on the toilet for a bowel motion rather than> squatting the way all primitive peoples have

done> and some peoples still do. When we sit to defaecate,> a kink in the rectum (that prevents bowel> incontinence) remains kinked, tending to produce> constipation. Straining to overcome this resistance> day after day, year after year, stretches> pelvic-floor nerves. > > I am sorry this is happening to you, this is very> complicated, does the above apply. Have you had> children, have you had lots of the constipation, is> your stool hard.> > I would work on soothing the intestines, I would> work on bacteria, I would work on relaxing muscle, I> would work on repairing nerves, this will take a> while, it will not be a comfortable task. You may> want to read my friends book, this happens quite> often when people suffer with the illness like> multiple sclerosis his book can be found at>http://www.copingandprevailing.com/coping3review.html> or you can contact Tom directly at> tbayuk@...> > > No information in this letter should be construed> as medical advice.> This information is for educational purposes only.> > Jeff el> 10360 Pine Lakes Blvd> North Fort Myers, Fl 33903> 239-731-2655> http://www.msprotocols.com/> > > Link for chat:> >MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis/chat> > Photos:>http://photos./group/MSViews_Multiple_Sclerosis/lst> Group

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