Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 A friend of mine sent me the following: << Subject: The Truth About Eating: For those of you who watch what you eat... Here's the final word on nutrition and health, and it's a relief to know the truth after all those conflicting medical studies: 1. The Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than the Canadians, British or Americans. 2. The Mexicans eat a lot of fat and also suffer fewer heart attacks than the Canadians, British or Americans. 3. The Japanese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than the Canadians, British or Americans. 4. The Italians drink excessive amounts of red wine and also suffer fewer heart attacks than the Canadians, British or Americans. 5. The Germans drink a lot of beer and eat lots of sausages and fats and suffer fewer heart attacks than the Canadians, British or Americans. 6. Ukrainians drink a lot of vodka, eat a lot of perogies, cabbage rolls and suffer fewer heart attacks than the Canadians, British or Americans. CONCLUSION: Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills you. >> Any truth to this? Jerry Telle pHd Lakewood CO USA Earth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2003 Report Share Posted June 14, 2003 Jerry Telle pHd wrote: > CONCLUSION: Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what > kills you. >> > Any truth to this? Probably not, but its an amusing categorization to point out. I think the real key in that analysis is all of those countries, the average person seems to eat less processed food than we do. I use the term processed to refer to fast food, frozen dinners, chips, etc. Dahms Boston, MA Earth (I hope) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2003 Report Share Posted June 15, 2003 This is a milk is white chalk is white so milk is chalk type of logical reasoning. Dietary reasoning for health maintainence is multifactorial. Third generation American Japanese have a similar risk for various cancers as the rest of the American population. Japanese have a higher Soy intake which helps and they eat a larger amount of veggies. Smoking their fish gives them higher rates of esophageal cancer. A meditaerranean diet is rich in antioxidants which may be one of the factors that reduce risks. Basically high red meat intake, immoderate eating and obesity all help to make the basic " Fast food " American diet (Not the diet eaten by the pilgrim fathers !) bad for you !!! (Note cabbages and other veggies, some amount of wine- french/juices/olive oil- italians/high fiber diet-mexican and work/calorie consumption -Germans-I am not exactly sure about the German data will look it up !) Prasanna Simha M Bangalore, India Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2003 Report Share Posted June 15, 2003 This is a milk is white chalk is white so milk is chalk type of logical reasoning. Dietary reasoning for health maintainence is multifactorial. Third generation American Japanese have a similar risk for various cancers as the rest of the American population. Japanese have a higher Soy intake which helps and they eat a larger amount of veggies. Smoking their fish gives them higher rates of esophageal cancer. A meditaerranean diet is rich in antioxidants which may be one of the factors that reduce risks. Basically high red meat intake, immoderate eating and obesity all help to make the basic " Fast food " American diet (Not the diet eaten by the pilgrim fathers !) bad for you !!! (Note cabbages and other veggies, some amount of wine- french/juices/olive oil- italians/high fiber diet-mexican and work/calorie consumption -Germans-I am not exactly sure about the German data will look it up !) Prasanna Simha M Bangalore, India Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2003 Report Share Posted June 15, 2003 It's not the food (well maybe the amount of food- does any other country supersize), but the lifestyle- which is also supersized. God forbid if you do not drive the right car, wear the right clothes, or have the perfect body. There are alot of stresses in trying to achieve the American Dream. Here is another question, do higher compsuption rates (fuel, food, etc.) result in a higher percentage of heart attacks? Is more better? Tom Rankin CSCS Rocklin, Ca. > A friend of mine sent me the following: > > << Subject: The Truth About Eating: > For those of you who watch what you eat... Here's the final word on nutrition > and health, and it's a relief to know the truth after all those conflicting > medical studies: > > 1. The Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than the > Canadians, British or Americans. > > 2. The Mexicans eat a lot of fat and also suffer fewer heart attacks than > the Canadians, British or Americans. > > 3. The Japanese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks > than the Canadians, British or Americans. > > 4. The Italians drink excessive amounts of red wine and also suffer fewer > heart attacks than the Canadians, British or Americans. > > 5. The Germans drink a lot of beer and eat lots of sausages and fats and > suffer fewer heart attacks than the Canadians, British or Americans. > > 6. Ukrainians drink a lot of vodka, eat a lot of perogies, cabbage rolls and > suffer fewer heart attacks than the Canadians, British or Americans. > > CONCLUSION: Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what > kills you. >> > > Any truth to this? > > Jerry Telle pHd > Lakewood CO USA > Earth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2003 Report Share Posted June 16, 2003 A variety of factors contribute to the risk of heart attacks -- obesity, diet, lifestyle, etc. Obesity and the lifestyle contributing to it are definitely rising higher in the US and in Britain. The good news: in Nature Dec 2001 there was an article partly resolving the " French paradox " -- eating fatty foods but having relatively low rates of heart disease. The article shows that red wine reduces the risks of atherosclerosis. (So here's an excuse to drink! ;P) Sharon Lee San , CA, USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2003 Report Share Posted June 16, 2003 A variety of factors contribute to the risk of heart attacks -- obesity, diet, lifestyle, etc. Obesity and the lifestyle contributing to it are definitely rising higher in the US and in Britain. The good news: in Nature Dec 2001 there was an article partly resolving the " French paradox " -- eating fatty foods but having relatively low rates of heart disease. The article shows that red wine reduces the risks of atherosclerosis. (So here's an excuse to drink! ;P) Sharon Lee San , CA, USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2003 Report Share Posted June 16, 2003 > > CONCLUSION: Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what > kills you. >> > > Any truth to this? > > Jerry Telle pHd > Lakewood CO USA > Earth? It's so simple, we start speaking Tellebonics!!! I agree that processed food plays an important role in these statistics, but I think food quality also plays a major role. We are not eating as many vegetables as we should, and the vegetables we do eat only contain a fraction of the nutrients they once did. Depletion of nutrients from our soil is something the health/medical profession does take seriously enough. Micah West Naples, FL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2003 Report Share Posted June 18, 2003 Micah West writes: << It's so simple, we start speaking Tellebonics!!!>> Tely, Hmmm, do you mind if I register/trademark " Tellebonics " or have you already gone out and stole this brilliance? I am also considering " Telyfanatics " or better yet " Tel-a-fanatic " . Or what about " Telybullonics " ? <<I agree that processed food plays an important role in these statistics, but I think food quality also plays a major role. We are not eating as many vegetables as we should, and the vegetables we do eat only contain a fraction of the nutrients they once did. Depletion of nutrients from our soil is something the health/medical profession does take seriously enough.>> tely, HUH!? Which " health/medical profession " are you talking about?? --and with some apologies I have to admit my earlier " Speaking English and being a lard ass " was a bit obscure. If one menaders about and drops down 3-4 layers of obfuscated humor and metaphor, one may realize my real question, i.e., what correlations are known?/projected, guessed upon -- between Lard ass, obese, rotund, and any other variable -- and what combinations of variables " correlate " ? At what level of significance? Jerry " KOAT " Telle pH.d Lakewood CO USA EARTH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2003 Report Share Posted June 18, 2003 They've found correlations between drinking red wine and being healthy in several countries. They thought there was a connection between drinking red wine and being healthy until they discovered that there was only an indirect connection: people who drink wine tend to belong to the upper social (professional) classes who lead a more healthy life in general (partly because they have the means to). In other words, red wine drinking dos not cause better health - a healthier and happier way of life " causes " red wine drinking. Ulf Karlsson Debrecen, Hungary > A variety of factors contribute to the risk of heart attacks -- > obesity, diet, lifestyle, etc. Obesity and the lifestyle > contributing to it are definitely rising higher in the US and in > Britain. > > The good news: in Nature Dec 2001 there was an article partly > resolving the " French paradox " -- eating fatty foods but having > relatively low rates of heart disease. The article shows that red > wine reduces the risks of atherosclerosis. (So here's an excuse to > drink! ;P) > > Sharon Lee > San , CA, USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2003 Report Share Posted June 18, 2003 Prasanna Simha M writes: << This is a milk is white chalk is white so milk is chalk type of logical reasoning.>> tely-- Really? I didn't give it that much credit. It's BS (bullshit) or maybe RO (recycled oats) and that's *all* I'll agree with! Jerry " KOAT " Telle pH.d Lakewood CO USA EARTH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 Tely, > Hmmm, do you mind if I register/trademark " Tellebonics " or have you already > gone out and stole this brilliance? I am also considering " Telyfanatics " or > better yet " Tel-a-fanatic " . Or what about " Telybullonics " ? I think I'll let my lawyers contact you about our register/trademark situation > tely, > HUH!? Which " health/medical profession " are you talking about?? My apologies, I meant to say the health/medical profession does NOT pay enough attention to. Micah West Naples, FL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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