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I'm not sure what is so wonderful about spitting that kids like to do it so

much. I've read lots of the posts here before in regards to spitting that

you should be sure they don't have a sore throat/strep before trying to rid

the behavior, but I know that with it is purely behavioral.... well

maybe not purely, she may be getting some type of stimulation out of it when

she starts, but once she's started it gets behavioral because it seems as if

the more I tell her no, the more she wants to do it, and she will also do it

when she is mad. I usually joke to hubby (when she's not around of course)

that such and such made her spitting mad. and then he knows just what I

mean.

But she has this thing about spitting on puzzles. Like the wooden puzzles

that have the little pegs on them, she will spit on the puzzle where the

piece goes, and then spit on the puzzle piece and then smash the piece onto

the puzzle. Which my biggest issue with that spitting is that it's just

gross, no one wants to play with a puzzle after she has spit all over it,

know what I mean? Not that she has to share them, but still, it's not

acceptable behavior and I don't want her taking it on to school.

At Girl Scouts she LOVES the little bridges that they have in the back of

the room for the bridging ceremonies and will play on them the whole meeting

sometimes, but if we're ready to go and she is not done she will start

spitting all over it... like she's leaving her scent or something, lol.

Generally I've just tried to remove her from the situation in those cases,

and when she starts on the puzzle I give her a warning that I'm going to

take the puzzle away if she continues to spit and she will say NO! but she

only stops sometimes and usually not for long. I often have to end up taking

the puzzle(s) and putting them up for a few days.

Hope you get some good suggestions, I'll be watching for sure :)

Oh and I read about Jenn's progress with potty training, it's AWESOME!!! I

am still sometimes in shock over 's going to the potty now. I hope

that soon she will be doing it all on her own and you'll be able to use

those pull ups just at night (or not at all!)

HUGS to you and Jenn! :)

Theresa

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> Jen picked up a bad habit of spitting, I keep telling her to stop, and she

> will tell she stop with sounds like " yell " , but then she goes back to it

> later, she seems to want to spit up the steps and down the steps. I wish she

> would knock it off, I'm glad that she can spit now, it is a little much for

> me.

>

> I wish I knew how to get her to stop, because she will go back to it many

> times during the evening.

>

> Any ideas?

> Bev

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Different situation, but with my baby, I ignore the spitting and teach her

something to replace it. Like taking her finger and doing " BBBB " with her lips.

IDK if that applies or will help, but maybe it will get a line of thought going.

hth,

Corinne

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To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women

Subject: Spitting

Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 00:52:47 -0000

Jen picked up a bad habit of spitting, I keep telling her to stop, and she will

tell she stop with sounds like " yell " , but then she goes back to it later, she

seems to want to spit up the steps and down the steps. I wish she would knock it

off, I'm glad that she can spit now, it is a little much for me.

I wish I knew how to get her to stop, because she will go back to it many times

during the evening.

Any ideas?

Bev

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Theresa,

I'm sure it not a sore throat, and from what you told me about your daughter, it

could be a game they play. Jen usually holds up a ruler or some other object and

then spits, I think she is targeting. She does the same thing from the top of

the steps going down. It may be a form of control. there is so many thing she

does not have control over, spitting is one thing she does. She is also very

good spitting one her sister (Kim age 20 years old & in College).

I've proud of Jen, it is ruff at times, now that she is starting to get the idea

of do it yourself, thing are getting a little better. The middle of last night,

put herself on the potty. When I did not come over to put a diaper together for

her to put on herself, she came and got me out of bed, she was very disturbed

with me. I was sick most of yesterday, so I accidentally when back to sleep. I

helped her, she finished herself up and put herself back into bed.

I hope she keep progressing.

I wish you the best with , Congratulation with going to the

potty, hang in there!

Bev

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> > Jen picked up a bad habit of spitting, I keep telling her to stop, and she

> > will tell she stop with sounds like " yell " , but then she goes back to it

> > later, she seems to want to spit up the steps and down the steps. I wish she

> > would knock it off, I'm glad that she can spit now, it is a little much for

> > me.

> >

> > I wish I knew how to get her to stop, because she will go back to it many

> > times during the evening.

> >

> > Any ideas?

> > Bev

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Usually I tell Jen " No more " or something on that line, she will reply and agree

to stop, just like any kid, she is getting better at listening.

I do tell her to go out side and play or I suggest other indoor activities,

sometimes it work sometimes not so. I go over a start playing with her things

sometimes I can side tract her on to a new activity, it has been getting better.

Bev

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> To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women

> Subject: Spitting

> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 00:52:47 -0000

>

> Jen picked up a bad habit of spitting, I keep telling her to stop, and she

will tell she stop with sounds like " yell " , but then she goes back to it later,

she seems to want to spit up the steps and down the steps. I wish she would

knock it off, I'm glad that she can spit now, it is a little much for me.

>

> I wish I knew how to get her to stop, because she will go back to it many

times during the evening.

>

> Any ideas?

> Bev

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I have been successful with reducing spitting by providing another oral

stimulation, such as chewing gum.

Bill

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> To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women

> Subject: Spitting

> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 00:52:47 -0000

>

> Jen picked up a bad habit of spitting, I keep telling her to stop, and she

will tell she stop with sounds like " yell " , but then she goes back to it later,

she seems to want to spit up the steps and down the steps. I wish she would

knock it off, I'm glad that she can spit now, it is a little much for me.

>

> I wish I knew how to get her to stop, because she will go back to it many

times during the evening.

>

> Any ideas?

> Bev

>

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I also had a teacher who could not get a child to stop spitting, so she had the

child wear a wrist band (sweat band) and redirected him to spit into the wrist

band. If all else fails, you can use an overcorrection procedure of making the

child brush their teeth every time they spit, or scrub the floor. I personally

prefer substituting a replacement behavior, and reinforcing the lack of spitting

(Stickers for not spitting that earn specific reinforcers). I have also tried

redirecting the child to spit in the sink. We prompted him to spit in the sink

once every 30 minutes, and then redirected him to the sink whenever he was

observed spitting.

Bill

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> > From: " bridalsh " <bweakley@>

> > To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women

> > Subject: Spitting

> > Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 00:52:47 -0000

> >

> > Jen picked up a bad habit of spitting, I keep telling her to stop, and she

will tell she stop with sounds like " yell " , but then she goes back to it later,

she seems to want to spit up the steps and down the steps. I wish she would

knock it off, I'm glad that she can spit now, it is a little much for me.

> >

> > I wish I knew how to get her to stop, because she will go back to it many

times during the evening.

> >

> > Any ideas?

> > Bev

> >

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Thank you Bill,

I like the idea of redirecting, and can see that as a real possiblity, because I

think she would become tried of walking to the sink to spit and it may reduce

her spitting behavior. I will try that.

Thank you again,

Bev

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> > > From: " bridalsh " <bweakley@>

> > > To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women

> > > Subject: Spitting

> > > Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 00:52:47 -0000

> > >

> > > Jen picked up a bad habit of spitting, I keep telling her to stop, and she

will tell she stop with sounds like " yell " , but then she goes back to it later,

she seems to want to spit up the steps and down the steps. I wish she would

knock it off, I'm glad that she can spit now, it is a little much for me.

> > >

> > > I wish I knew how to get her to stop, because she will go back to it many

times during the evening.

> > >

> > > Any ideas?

> > > Bev

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Yes, having her going to the sink and spitting in it is meant to be mildly

annoying. One way to reduce a behavior is to increase the effort or cost

incurred to engage in the behavior to be stronger then the reinforcing effects

of the behavior. It works well when it is difficult to remove the reinforcing

effects of the behavior. Simply find a way to not restrain the behavior from

occuring, but simply increase the effort it takes. You want to tip the balance

of the " rewards received vs the costs incurred " and then sit back and let the

consequences teach the behavior.

Bill

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> > > > From: " bridalsh " <bweakley@>

> > > > To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women

> > > > Subject: Spitting

> > > > Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 00:52:47 -0000

> > > >

> > > > Jen picked up a bad habit of spitting, I keep telling her to stop, and

she will tell she stop with sounds like " yell " , but then she goes back to it

later, she seems to want to spit up the steps and down the steps. I wish she

would knock it off, I'm glad that she can spit now, it is a little much for me.

> > > >

> > > > I wish I knew how to get her to stop, because she will go back to it

many times during the evening.

> > > >

> > > > Any ideas?

> > > > Bev

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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> > > > _____________________________________________________________

> > > > Netscape. Just the Net You Need.

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