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Ask ur dr to check a urine Na K to document dash. Tell us exActly how and when u take BP AND WITH WHAT Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were going pretty well and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic. I was tapered from 15mg to 10mg and then finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period. During the last two weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged 115/77. I didn't have a reading over 130/80.

Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has been higher. My average readings were 136/85. I was feeling good and continuing to DASH and eliminate sodium from my diet. Over the last month I have been more active than I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I weighed more than 235 lbs last August.

My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My average over this time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating low salt. I walk at least 45 minutes per day. I go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is to increase my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is getting out of control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is not necessary if DASH and spiro is working. Since my BP has been over 90 on the low number, does that mean spiro is not working? I was very excited to read o's success story about DASH and dropping the spiro dose. However, it seems that strict DASH and exercise have not prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some. However, the concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after only 6 weeks. I'm terrified about what high blood pressure will lead to eventually and feel like I am doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating when a 110% effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose! I feel like I am only delaying the eventual heart attack that PA will cause.

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What is your heart rate? Does it change a lot when just resting? By stopping the

Beta blocker it more then likey changed heart rate.

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> > I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were going pretty well

and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic. I was tapered from 15mg to

10mg and then finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period. During the last two

weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged 115/77. I didn't have a

reading over 130/80.

> >

> > Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has been higher. My

average readings were 136/85. I was feeling good and continuing to DASH and

eliminate sodium from my diet. Over the last month I have been more active than

I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I weighed more than

235 lbs last August.

> >

> > My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My average over this

time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating low salt. I walk at least 45

minutes per day. I go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is to increase

my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

> >

> > I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is getting out of

control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is not necessary if DASH and spiro is

working. Since my BP has been over 90 on the low number, does that mean spiro is

not working? I was very excited to read o's success story about DASH and

dropping the spiro dose. However, it seems that strict DASH and exercise have

not prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

> >

> > 50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some. However, the

concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after only 6 weeks. I'm

terrified about what high blood pressure will lead to eventually and feel like I

am doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating when a 110%

effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose! I feel like I am only delaying the

eventual heart attack that PA will cause.

> >

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I will request the urine tests on Wednesday. I take BP with a home digital

monitor. I had it checked for accuracy 6 months ago at the doctors office.

I will plan to bring it with me on Wednesday and mention the urine tests. My

PCP really doesn't have a clue about PA. It concerns me that I can sense in her

voice that she is worried. I am her only patient with PA. She wanted to put me

back on Bystolic, but my endocrinologist at Wash U. told me that increasing to

50mg of spiro will be the plan if the BP is not down by June 8th (3 weeks after

stopping the beta blocker). The endo at Mayo that I see was in agreement via

e-mail and thought that the Bystolic could raise my BP for 4-6 weeks after

stopping it.

Is there any danger in increasing spiro to 50mg? If my BP is only up due to

stopping the Bystolic, can 50mg cause a BP drop to a dangerous level? Could the

50mg of spiro cause an emergency level high potassium? I average between 4.0

and 4.5 k on 25mg of spiro currently.

34 yo male. Diagnosed 4/11. Spiro 25mg. CT scan does not show an adenoma, but

does show left adrenal " lumpiness " and larger than right.

>

> > I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were going pretty well

and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic. I was tapered from 15mg to

10mg and then finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period. During the last two

weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged 115/77. I didn't have a

reading over 130/80.

> >

> > Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has been higher. My

average readings were 136/85. I was feeling good and continuing to DASH and

eliminate sodium from my diet. Over the last month I have been more active than

I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I weighed more than

235 lbs last August.

> >

> > My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My average over this

time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating low salt. I walk at least 45

minutes per day. I go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is to increase

my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

> >

> > I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is getting out of

control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is not necessary if DASH and spiro is

working. Since my BP has been over 90 on the low number, does that mean spiro is

not working? I was very excited to read o's success story about DASH and

dropping the spiro dose. However, it seems that strict DASH and exercise have

not prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

> >

> > 50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some. However, the

concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after only 6 weeks. I'm

terrified about what high blood pressure will lead to eventually and feel like I

am doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating when a 110%

effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose! I feel like I am only delaying the

eventual heart attack that PA will cause.

> >

> >

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My heart rate is getting better but is still very sporadic after the beta

blocker. The last three weeks it has been over 90 at rest. It was under 60 on

the beta blocker. This week the resting rate is around 70, but my blood

pressure is higher than ever.

My heart rate was shooting up to over 110 when standing up last week. This week

things seem to be improving and I don't go over 100 when standing. However, I

only wear my heart rate monitor before going to the gym, so I only get a small

view of the day.

The heart rate would be in line with what the Mayo doc predicted regarding

Bystolic. He is not concerned about the BP at this time, but still wants to

increase spiro to 50mg if it does not come down soon.

If 50mg of spiro is not really going to harm me, it is probably best to increase

it until my BP gets back to normal. I personally have no idea and wish I had

attended medical school so I could keep up with all of this!

> >

> > > I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were going pretty well

and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic. I was tapered from 15mg to

10mg and then finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period. During the last two

weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged 115/77. I didn't have a

reading over 130/80.

> > >

> > > Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has been higher. My

average readings were 136/85. I was feeling good and continuing to DASH and

eliminate sodium from my diet. Over the last month I have been more active than

I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I weighed more than

235 lbs last August.

> > >

> > > My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My average over this

time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating low salt. I walk at least 45

minutes per day. I go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is to increase

my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

> > >

> > > I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is getting out of

control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is not necessary if DASH and spiro is

working. Since my BP has been over 90 on the low number, does that mean spiro is

not working? I was very excited to read o's success story about DASH and

dropping the spiro dose. However, it seems that strict DASH and exercise have

not prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

> > >

> > > 50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some. However, the

concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after only 6 weeks. I'm

terrified about what high blood pressure will lead to eventually and feel like I

am doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating when a 110%

effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose! I feel like I am only delaying the

eventual heart attack that PA will cause.

> > >

> > >

> >

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Automatic B/P devices don't work well if your heart rate changes a lot. Try

taking B/P 2 or 3 times within 5 min do not remove the cuff or change arm

position.

> > >

> > > > I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were going pretty

well and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic. I was tapered from

15mg to 10mg and then finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period. During the

last two weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged 115/77. I

didn't have a reading over 130/80.

> > > >

> > > > Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has been higher.

My average readings were 136/85. I was feeling good and continuing to DASH and

eliminate sodium from my diet. Over the last month I have been more active than

I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I weighed more than

235 lbs last August.

> > > >

> > > > My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My average over this

time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating low salt. I walk at least 45

minutes per day. I go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is to increase

my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

> > > >

> > > > I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is getting out of

control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is not necessary if DASH and spiro is

working. Since my BP has been over 90 on the low number, does that mean spiro is

not working? I was very excited to read o's success story about DASH and

dropping the spiro dose. However, it seems that strict DASH and exercise have

not prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

> > > >

> > > > 50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some. However, the

concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after only 6 weeks. I'm

terrified about what high blood pressure will lead to eventually and feel like I

am doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating when a 110%

effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose! I feel like I am only delaying the

eventual heart attack that PA will cause.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

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I take 3 readings. The readings are done 1 minute between each one. Today for

example:

146/94, 128/86, 129/86

I take 3 in the morning and report them to my doctor per her request once a

week.

> > > >

> > > > > I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were going pretty

well and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic. I was tapered from

15mg to 10mg and then finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period. During the

last two weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged 115/77. I

didn't have a reading over 130/80.

> > > > >

> > > > > Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has been higher.

My average readings were 136/85. I was feeling good and continuing to DASH and

eliminate sodium from my diet. Over the last month I have been more active than

I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I weighed more than

235 lbs last August.

> > > > >

> > > > > My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My average over

this time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating low salt. I walk at

least 45 minutes per day. I go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is to

increase my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is getting out

of control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is not necessary if DASH and spiro is

working. Since my BP has been over 90 on the low number, does that mean spiro is

not working? I was very excited to read o's success story about DASH and

dropping the spiro dose. However, it seems that strict DASH and exercise have

not prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

> > > > >

> > > > > 50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some. However, the

concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after only 6 weeks. I'm

terrified about what high blood pressure will lead to eventually and feel like I

am doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating when a 110%

effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose! I feel like I am only delaying the

eventual heart attack that PA will cause.

> > > > >

> > > > >

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You will learn more from this group about PA the many who go to medical school

will ever know.

If you haven't watched this you need to. It gives a lot of information on sprio.

> > >

> > > > I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were going pretty

well and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic. I was tapered from

15mg to 10mg and then finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period. During the

last two weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged 115/77. I

didn't have a reading over 130/80.

> > > >

> > > > Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has been higher.

My average readings were 136/85. I was feeling good and continuing to DASH and

eliminate sodium from my diet. Over the last month I have been more active than

I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I weighed more than

235 lbs last August.

> > > >

> > > > My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My average over this

time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating low salt. I walk at least 45

minutes per day. I go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is to increase

my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

> > > >

> > > > I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is getting out of

control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is not necessary if DASH and spiro is

working. Since my BP has been over 90 on the low number, does that mean spiro is

not working? I was very excited to read o's success story about DASH and

dropping the spiro dose. However, it seems that strict DASH and exercise have

not prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

> > > >

> > > > 50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some. However, the

concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after only 6 weeks. I'm

terrified about what high blood pressure will lead to eventually and feel like I

am doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating when a 110%

effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose! I feel like I am only delaying the

eventual heart attack that PA will cause.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

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Dr grim says to disregard the first reading. Is this what most of your readings

look like? Or do you sometimes get a reading like 160/80 then next reading

140/80 and then 130/80?

> > > > >

> > > > > > I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were going

pretty well and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic. I was tapered

from 15mg to 10mg and then finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period. During

the last two weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged 115/77. I

didn't have a reading over 130/80.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has been

higher. My average readings were 136/85. I was feeling good and continuing to

DASH and eliminate sodium from my diet. Over the last month I have been more

active than I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I weighed

more than 235 lbs last August.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My average over

this time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating low salt. I walk at

least 45 minutes per day. I go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is to

increase my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is getting

out of control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is not necessary if DASH and

spiro is working. Since my BP has been over 90 on the low number, does that mean

spiro is not working? I was very excited to read o's success story about

DASH and dropping the spiro dose. However, it seems that strict DASH and

exercise have not prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some. However,

the concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after only 6 weeks. I'm

terrified about what high blood pressure will lead to eventually and feel like I

am doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating when a 110%

effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose! I feel like I am only delaying the

eventual heart attack that PA will cause.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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Discard the first reading and average the last 2. You can see why to discaTiped sad SeniPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

I take 3 readings. The readings are done 1 minute between each one. Today for example:

146/94, 128/86, 129/86

I take 3 in the morning and report them to my doctor per her request once a week.

> > > >

> > > > > I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were going pretty well and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic. I was tapered from 15mg to 10mg and then finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period. During the last two weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged 115/77. I didn't have a reading over 130/80.

> > > > >

> > > > > Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has been higher. My average readings were 136/85. I was feeling good and continuing to DASH and eliminate sodium from my diet. Over the last month I have been more active than I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I weighed more than 235 lbs last August.

> > > > >

> > > > > My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My average over this time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating low salt. I walk at least 45 minutes per day. I go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is to increase my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is getting out of control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is not necessary if DASH and spiro is working. Since my BP has been over 90 on the low number, does that mean spiro is not working? I was very excited to read o's success story about DASH and dropping the spiro dose. However, it seems that strict DASH and exercise have not prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

> > > > >

> > > > > 50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some. However, the concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after only 6 weeks. I'm terrified about what high blood pressure will lead to eventually and feel like I am doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating when a 110% effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose! I feel like I am only delaying the eventual heart attack that PA will cause.

> > > > >

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Sounds like your baroreceptor system is adapting to withdrawal of BB and lowering of your BP. You should get the Am Heart Assoc hypertension Primer. This is what we except all drs to know when they graduate Most have not. When we certified Med studs BP we also gave them a copy of the Primer. Tiped sad Send form miser iPhone c;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Primer. Used to be able to get one copy free from them. This is what every Dr should know when they graduate but most have never seen it. I

Automatic B/P devices don't work well if your heart rate changes a lot. Try taking B/P 2 or 3 times within 5 min do not remove the cuff or change arm position.

> > >

> > > > I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were going pretty well and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic. I was tapered from 15mg to 10mg and then finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period. During the last two weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged 115/77. I didn't have a reading over 130/80.

> > > >

> > > > Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has been higher. My average readings were 136/85. I was feeling good and continuing to DASH and eliminate sodium from my diet. Over the last month I have been more active than I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I weighed more than 235 lbs last August.

> > > >

> > > > My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My average over this time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating low salt. I walk at least 45 minutes per day. I go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is to increase my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

> > > >

> > > > I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is getting out of control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is not necessary if DASH and spiro is working. Since my BP has been over 90 on the low number, does that mean spiro is not working? I was very excited to read o's success story about DASH and dropping the spiro dose. However, it seems that strict DASH and exercise have not prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

> > > >

> > > > 50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some. However, the concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after only 6 weeks. I'm terrified about what high blood pressure will lead to eventually and feel like I am doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating when a 110% effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose! I feel like I am only delaying the eventual heart attack that PA will cause.

> > > >

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Most of the readings look pretty similar to today's scenario. The second

reading is usually 7 pts lower than the first.

128/86 is still high though right? The bottom number is higher than I would

expect it to be if I was on the right dose of spiro.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were going

pretty well and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic. I was tapered

from 15mg to 10mg and then finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period. During

the last two weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged 115/77. I

didn't have a reading over 130/80.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has been

higher. My average readings were 136/85. I was feeling good and continuing to

DASH and eliminate sodium from my diet. Over the last month I have been more

active than I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I weighed

more than 235 lbs last August.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My average

over this time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating low salt. I walk

at least 45 minutes per day. I go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is

to increase my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is getting

out of control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is not necessary if DASH and

spiro is working. Since my BP has been over 90 on the low number, does that mean

spiro is not working? I was very excited to read o's success story about

DASH and dropping the spiro dose. However, it seems that strict DASH and

exercise have not prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some. However,

the concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after only 6 weeks. I'm

terrified about what high blood pressure will lead to eventually and feel like I

am doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating when a 110%

effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose! I feel like I am only delaying the

eventual heart attack that PA will cause.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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I've heard this from other doctors as well. At Mayo, they take 6 total blood

pressures. The first one is thrown out. The other 5 are averaged. It is a

machine that is in all of the internal medicine and cardiology offices.

The funny thing is when the nurse manually took my BP it was 145/92 at Mayo.

The machine averaged 119/78. Anxiety plays a big role for me. The cardiologist

ignored the manual BP and went with the machine average.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were going

pretty well and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic. I was tapered

from 15mg to 10mg and then finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period. During

the last two weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged 115/77. I

didn't have a reading over 130/80.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has been

higher. My average readings were 136/85. I was feeling good and continuing to

DASH and eliminate sodium from my diet. Over the last month I have been more

active than I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I weighed

more than 235 lbs last August.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My average

over this time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating low salt. I walk

at least 45 minutes per day. I go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is

to increase my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is getting

out of control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is not necessary if DASH and

spiro is working. Since my BP has been over 90 on the low number, does that mean

spiro is not working? I was very excited to read o's success story about

DASH and dropping the spiro dose. However, it seems that strict DASH and

exercise have not prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some. However,

the concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after only 6 weeks. I'm

terrified about what high blood pressure will lead to eventually and feel like I

am doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating when a 110%

effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose! I feel like I am only delaying the

eventual heart attack that PA will cause.

> > > > > > >

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My feeling is most of the time when they B/P in Dr office it is right after you

have done a bit of exercise. You go from sitting to standing to walking to where

B/P is taken. It is always going to higher then when at rest. I think they

should have you sit for about 10 min before taking B/P.

The cardiologist should have taking his own B/P reading on you.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were going

pretty well and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic. I was tapered

from 15mg to 10mg and then finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period. During

the last two weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged 115/77. I

didn't have a reading over 130/80.

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> > > > > > > > Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has been

higher. My average readings were 136/85. I was feeling good and continuing to

DASH and eliminate sodium from my diet. Over the last month I have been more

active than I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I weighed

more than 235 lbs last August.

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> > > > > > > > My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My average

over this time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating low salt. I walk

at least 45 minutes per day. I go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is

to increase my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is

getting out of control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is not necessary if DASH

and spiro is working. Since my BP has been over 90 on the low number, does that

mean spiro is not working? I was very excited to read o's success story

about DASH and dropping the spiro dose. However, it seems that strict DASH and

exercise have not prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some.

However, the concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after only 6

weeks. I'm terrified about what high blood pressure will lead to eventually and

feel like I am doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating

when a 110% effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose! I feel like I am only

delaying the eventual heart attack that PA will cause.

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I've always thought that was a crazy way to do it - after you've been in the

waiting room (in my experience, usually far longer than you should have been

since the docs are always running late!) they call your name, you get up and

move quickly, and then the next thing you know they're taking your BP.

Not to mention the whole " white coat syndrome " thing too. My BP at home is

consistently around 138/90, but the minute I enter a doctor's office it's

consistently 160/100. I've had my meter checked and re-checked, and it's

accurate.

I've learned that a good HTN doc will check it several times during the

appointment. My nephrologist checks mine both on the arm and on my leg - he's

the only doc I've ever seen do that before.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were going

pretty well and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic. I was tapered

from 15mg to 10mg and then finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period. During

the last two weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged 115/77. I

didn't have a reading over 130/80.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has been

higher. My average readings were 136/85. I was feeling good and continuing to

DASH and eliminate sodium from my diet. Over the last month I have been more

active than I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I weighed

more than 235 lbs last August.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My average

over this time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating low salt. I walk

at least 45 minutes per day. I go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is

to increase my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is

getting out of control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is not necessary if DASH

and spiro is working. Since my BP has been over 90 on the low number, does that

mean spiro is not working? I was very excited to read o's success story

about DASH and dropping the spiro dose. However, it seems that strict DASH and

exercise have not prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some.

However, the concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after only 6

weeks. I'm terrified about what high blood pressure will lead to eventually and

feel like I am doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating

when a 110% effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose! I feel like I am only

delaying the eventual heart attack that PA will cause.

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By this chart if you didn't have PA you would have Prehypertension.

Most Dr treating hypertension don't expect to get B/P much less then 135/80.

Blood Pressure Range

Class Systolic Diastolic

Normal 115 mmHg or lower 75 mmHg or lower

Prehypertension 120-139 mmHg 80-89 mmHg

Stage 1 hypertension 140-159 mmHg 90-99 mmHg

Stage 2 hypertension 160 mmHg or over 100 mmHg or over

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> > > > > > > > I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were going

pretty well and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic. I was tapered

from 15mg to 10mg and then finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period. During

the last two weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged 115/77. I

didn't have a reading over 130/80.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has been

higher. My average readings were 136/85. I was feeling good and continuing to

DASH and eliminate sodium from my diet. Over the last month I have been more

active than I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I weighed

more than 235 lbs last August.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My average

over this time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating low salt. I walk

at least 45 minutes per day. I go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is

to increase my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is

getting out of control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is not necessary if DASH

and spiro is working. Since my BP has been over 90 on the low number, does that

mean spiro is not working? I was very excited to read o's success story

about DASH and dropping the spiro dose. However, it seems that strict DASH and

exercise have not prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some.

However, the concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after only 6

weeks. I'm terrified about what high blood pressure will lead to eventually and

feel like I am doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating

when a 110% effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose! I feel like I am only

delaying the eventual heart attack that PA will cause.

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If you have had HTN the home goal should be below 135/85. Unless u have DM OR renal disease. You might want to download JNC 7 and read it cover to cover. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

Most of the readings look pretty similar to today's scenario. The second reading is usually 7 pts lower than the first.

128/86 is still high though right? The bottom number is higher than I would expect it to be if I was on the right dose of spiro.

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> > > > > > > I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were going pretty well and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic. I was tapered from 15mg to 10mg and then finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period. During the last two weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged 115/77. I didn't have a reading over 130/80.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has been higher. My average readings were 136/85. I was feeling good and continuing to DASH and eliminate sodium from my diet. Over the last month I have been more active than I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I weighed more than 235 lbs last August.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My average over this time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating low salt. I walk at least 45 minutes per day. I go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is to increase my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is getting out of control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is not necessary if DASH and spiro is working. Since my BP has been over 90 on the low number, does that mean spiro is not working? I was very excited to read o's success story about DASH and dropping the spiro dose. However, it seems that strict DASH and exercise have not prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some. However, the concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after only 6 weeks. I'm terrified about what high blood pressure will lead to eventually and feel like I am doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating when a 110% effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose! I feel like I am only delaying the eventual heart attack that PA will cause.

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However the machine the use will make errors of + 15 in some and-15 in others. Unless the vAlidate the device in u u don't know which one you are. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

I've heard this from other doctors as well. At Mayo, they take 6 total blood pressures. The first one is thrown out. The other 5 are averaged. It is a machine that is in all of the internal medicine and cardiology offices.

The funny thing is when the nurse manually took my BP it was 145/92 at Mayo. The machine averaged 119/78. Anxiety plays a big role for me. The cardiologist ignored the manual BP and went with the machine average.

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> > > > > > > I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were going pretty well and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic. I was tapered from 15mg to 10mg and then finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period. During the last two weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged 115/77. I didn't have a reading over 130/80.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has been higher. My average readings were 136/85. I was feeling good and continuing to DASH and eliminate sodium from my diet. Over the last month I have been more active than I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I weighed more than 235 lbs last August.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My average over this time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating low salt. I walk at least 45 minutes per day. I go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is to increase my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is getting out of control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is not necessary if DASH and spiro is working. Since my BP has been over 90 on the low number, does that mean spiro is not working? I was very excited to read o's success story about DASH and dropping the spiro dose. However, it seems that strict DASH and exercise have not prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some. However, the concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after only 6 weeks. I'm terrified about what high blood pressure will lead to eventually and feel like I am doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating when a 110% effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose! I feel like I am only delaying the eventual heart attack that PA will cause.

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Only need to do both arms and leg first visit. Good BP Drs should DX AND RX based on home BPS. not badly taken office BPs. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

I've always thought that was a crazy way to do it - after you've been in the waiting room (in my experience, usually far longer than you should have been since the docs are always running late!) they call your name, you get up and move quickly, and then the next thing you know they're taking your BP.

Not to mention the whole "white coat syndrome" thing too. My BP at home is consistently around 138/90, but the minute I enter a doctor's office it's consistently 160/100. I've had my meter checked and re-checked, and it's accurate.

I've learned that a good HTN doc will check it several times during the appointment. My nephrologist checks mine both on the arm and on my leg - he's the only doc I've ever seen do that before.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were going pretty well and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic. I was tapered from 15mg to 10mg and then finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period. During the last two weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged 115/77. I didn't have a reading over 130/80.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has been higher. My average readings were 136/85. I was feeling good and continuing to DASH and eliminate sodium from my diet. Over the last month I have been more active than I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I weighed more than 235 lbs last August.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My average over this time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating low salt. I walk at least 45 minutes per day. I go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is to increase my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is getting out of control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is not necessary if DASH and spiro is working. Since my BP has been over 90 on the low number, does that mean spiro is not working? I was very excited to read o's success story about DASH and dropping the spiro dose. However, it seems that strict DASH and exercise have not prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some. However, the concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after only 6 weeks. I'm terrified about what high blood pressure will lead to eventually and feel like I am doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating when a 110% effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose! I feel like I am only delaying the eventual heart attack that PA will cause.

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We discourage drs from taking BP. Most do not know how to so it correctly nor have they ever had someone listen to them with a double stethoscope to see if they can still have it. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

My feeling is most of the time when they B/P in Dr office it is right after you have done a bit of exercise. You go from sitting to standing to walking to where B/P is taken. It is always going to higher then when at rest. I think they should have you sit for about 10 min before taking B/P.

The cardiologist should have taking his own B/P reading on you.

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> > > > > > > > I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were going pretty well and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic. I was tapered from 15mg to 10mg and then finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period. During the last two weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged 115/77. I didn't have a reading over 130/80.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has been higher. My average readings were 136/85. I was feeling good and continuing to DASH and eliminate sodium from my diet. Over the last month I have been more active than I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I weighed more than 235 lbs last August.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My average over this time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating low salt. I walk at least 45 minutes per day. I go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is to increase my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is getting out of control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is not necessary if DASH and spiro is working. Since my BP has been over 90 on the low number, does that mean spiro is not working? I was very excited to read o's success story about DASH and dropping the spiro dose. However, it seems that strict DASH and exercise have not prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some. However, the concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after only 6 weeks. I'm terrified about what high blood pressure will lead to eventually and feel like I am doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating when a 110% effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose! I feel like I am only delaying the eventual heart attack that PA will cause.

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The standard is to have you rest 5 Min before taking a BP. but office staff say they do not have time to do this. Yet I always have at least 5 min wait before the dr sees me. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

My feeling is most of the time when they B/P in Dr office it is right after you have done a bit of exercise. You go from sitting to standing to walking to where B/P is taken. It is always going to higher then when at rest. I think they should have you sit for about 10 min before taking B/P.

The cardiologist should have taking his own B/P reading on you.

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> > > > > > > > I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were going pretty well and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic. I was tapered from 15mg to 10mg and then finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period. During the last two weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged 115/77. I didn't have a reading over 130/80.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has been higher. My average readings were 136/85. I was feeling good and continuing to DASH and eliminate sodium from my diet. Over the last month I have been more active than I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I weighed more than 235 lbs last August.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My average over this time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating low salt. I walk at least 45 minutes per day. I go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is to increase my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is getting out of control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is not necessary if DASH and spiro is working. Since my BP has been over 90 on the low number, does that mean spiro is not working? I was very excited to read o's success story about DASH and dropping the spiro dose. However, it seems that strict DASH and exercise have not prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some. However, the concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after only 6 weeks. I'm terrified about what high blood pressure will lead to eventually and feel like I am doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating when a 110% effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose! I feel like I am only delaying the eventual heart attack that PA will cause.

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LOL! I've never once had them let me rest 5 mins. Of course, usually I've been

" resting " in the waiting room for at least a half hour...

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> > > > > > > > > > I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were

going pretty well and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic. I was

tapered from 15mg to 10mg and then finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period.

During the last two weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged

115/77. I didn't have a reading over 130/80.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has

been higher. My average readings were 136/85. I was feeling good and continuing

to DASH and eliminate sodium from my diet. Over the last month I have been more

active than I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I weighed

more than 235 lbs last August.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My

average over this time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating low salt.

I walk at least 45 minutes per day. I go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the

plan is to increase my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is

getting out of control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is not necessary if DASH

and spiro is working. Since my BP has been over 90 on the low number, does that

mean spiro is not working? I was very excited to read o's success story

about DASH and dropping the spiro dose. However, it seems that strict DASH and

exercise have not prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some.

However, the concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after only 6

weeks. I'm terrified about what high blood pressure will lead to eventually and

feel like I am doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating

when a 110% effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose! I feel like I am only

delaying the eventual heart attack that PA will cause.

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Not reAlly something to laugh about IMHO. This results in over Dx and Rx in millions. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

LOL! I've never once had them let me rest 5 mins. Of course, usually I've been "resting" in the waiting room for at least a half hour...

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> > > > > > > > > > I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were going pretty well and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic. I was tapered from 15mg to 10mg and then finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period. During the last two weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged 115/77. I didn't have a reading over 130/80.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has been higher. My average readings were 136/85. I was feeling good and continuing to DASH and eliminate sodium from my diet. Over the last month I have been more active than I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I weighed more than 235 lbs last August.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My average over this time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating low salt. I walk at least 45 minutes per day. I go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is to increase my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is getting out of control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is not necessary if DASH and spiro is working. Since my BP has been over 90 on the low number, does that mean spiro is not working? I was very excited to read o's success story about DASH and dropping the spiro dose. However, it seems that strict DASH and exercise have not prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some. However, the concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after only 6 weeks. I'm terrified about what high blood pressure will lead to eventually and feel like I am doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating when a 110% effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose! I feel like I am only delaying the eventual heart attack that PA will cause.

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I agree. I don't suffer from white coat syndrome but I do suffer

from no patience traveling in the car. Then I get my blood pressure

done 5 minutes after arriving. Probably going to be higher than

normal........ :-)

I've always thought that was a crazy way to do it - after

you've been in the waiting room (in my experience, usually

far longer than you should have been since the docs are

always running late!) they call your name, you get up and

move quickly, and then the next thing you know they're

taking your BP.

Not to mention the whole "white coat syndrome" thing too.

My BP at home is consistently around 138/90, but the

minute I enter a doctor's office it's consistently

160/100. I've had my meter checked and re-checked, and

it's accurate.

I've learned that a good HTN doc will check it several

times during the appointment. My nephrologist checks mine

both on the arm and on my leg - he's the only doc I've

ever seen do that before.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I started on

Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were going pretty

well and the doctors took me off my beta blocker Bystolic.

I was tapered from 15mg to 10mg and then finally 5mg of

Bystolic over a 2 week period. During the last two weeks

on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure averaged 115/77.

I didn't have a reading over 130/80.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Since

stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has been

higher. My average readings were 136/85. I was feeling

good and continuing to DASH and eliminate sodium from my

diet. Over the last month I have been more active than I

have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189 lbs. I

weighed more than 235 lbs last August.

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pressure the last week has been very high. My average over

this time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing and eating

low salt. I walk at least 45 minutes per day. I go to the

doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is to increase my dose

of Spiro to 50mg.

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concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is

getting out of control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is

not necessary if DASH and spiro is working. Since my BP

has been over 90 on the low number, does that mean spiro

is not working? I was very excited to read o's

success story about DASH and dropping the spiro dose.

However, it seems that strict DASH and exercise have not

prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

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seem like a very small dose of spiro to some. However, the

concern is that it is necessary to double the dose after

only 6 weeks. I'm terrified about what high blood pressure

will lead to eventually and feel like I am doing

everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly frustrating

when a 110% effort leads to a doubling of the spiro dose!

I feel like I am only delaying the eventual heart attack

that PA will cause.

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Hi .

I orginally started out with 100 mg spiro in October ( 50mg am/50mg

Pm). That keep potassium in check and blood pressure controlled for

a short time. Six weeks later I was in the hospital again for low

potassium (2.7). We then increased it to 100mg in the AM and 100 mg

in the PM. Within two weeks my liver enzymes skyrocketed. We then

adjusted to 100mg in the AM and 50mg in the PM which is what I am

currently take. I bounce between 3.9-4.4 on the K. Then my blood

pressure started skyrocketing in between all of this and we added in

5mg Bystolic. Since DASHing and Weight Watchers the blood pressure

is way low. I just spent the last 3 weeks weening myself off the

bystolic. My readings were 90/50 which made me very lethargic. Now I

am averaging 110/75 and feel pretty good. In the doctors I have been

averaging 130/90 but I just posted on another email that the car

ride raises my blood pressure so I am not too worried about that

higher reading.

Your doing everything right so don't give up!! You may just have to

find the right dose of spiro for you.

Kellie

Female – Age 41 –

Height: 5’5”

– Weight since HTN and Low K at all time high of 190.Treated for

HTN from age

18-32 when it suddenly dropped. Started HCTZ for swelling in

04’. Have not

tested positive for PA however the treatment of Spiro is keeping

both HTN and K

in check. No tumor on adrenal gland. Insulin

resistant-Hypoglycemic-No testing

of AVS. Meds:

MRI revealed

benign tumor in

left eye socket

Meds: 100 mg of

spiro in the

morning and 50 mg in the evening. Xanax: .5 mg three times a

day. DASHing in conjunction with Weight

Watchers

I started on Spiro 25mg about six weeks ago. Things were

going pretty well and the doctors took me off my beta

blocker Bystolic. I was tapered from 15mg to 10mg and then

finally 5mg of Bystolic over a 2 week period. During the

last two weeks on the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure

averaged 115/77. I didn't have a reading over 130/80.

Since stopping the 5mg of Bystolic, my blood pressure has

been higher. My average readings were 136/85. I was

feeling good and continuing to DASH and eliminate sodium

from my diet. Over the last month I have been more active

than I have ever been and have maintained a weight of 189

lbs. I weighed more than 235 lbs last August.

My blood pressure the last week has been very high. My

average over this time has been 144/95. I am still DASHing

and eating low salt. I walk at least 45 minutes per day. I

go to the doctor next Wednesday, and the plan is to

increase my dose of Spiro to 50mg.

I am concerned that doubling the dose means that my PA is

getting out of control. Dr. Grim, you mention that AVS is

not necessary if DASH and spiro is working. Since my BP

has been over 90 on the low number, does that mean spiro

is not working? I was very excited to read o's

success story about DASH and dropping the spiro dose.

However, it seems that strict DASH and exercise have not

prevented doubling the dose of spiro.

50mg might seem like a very small dose of spiro to some.

However, the concern is that it is necessary to double the

dose after only 6 weeks. I'm terrified about what high

blood pressure will lead to eventually and feel like I am

doing everything I can to stay healthy. It is truly

frustrating when a 110% effort leads to a doubling of the

spiro dose! I feel like I am only delaying the eventual

heart attack that PA will cause.

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