Guest guest Posted February 24, 2003 Report Share Posted February 24, 2003 Hi : We too had a budget crunch during my Weeks 4-7 where I wasn't able to use any shakes/bars. I actually felt the difference because I tended to get lazier with making my meals on time, skipping them, etc. The added convenience the supplements provide me is priceless. That being said, I still lost 4 pounds in those four weeks, so I'm not saying I didn't do well. Six whole food meals per day is a lot and can get difficult to stay on top of. But I don't think the shakes/bars are the miracle pill that make this all work. It's a combination of all the factors. I currently am only using 2 per day and after I pay the bills today, I may realize I have to stretch that even farther by just doing one daily. This is your program, your plan and you have to the best you can with the resources at hand. You can do it! If you're not using the supplements, the key is planning, planning, planning! A. C1,W8,D7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2003 Report Share Posted February 24, 2003 You can do BFL without the shakes or EAS products if you are not officially in the contest. In fact, whole foods generally are preferred to liquid nutrition. You still will need to take a multivitamin supplement at the very least. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2003 Report Share Posted February 24, 2003 Hi, I have done several challenges with & without shakes etc. First shakes or meal replacements are supplements to real natural food and their value lies primarily for convenience sake. Some people find it hard to eat 6 small regular balanced meals that is suggested in BFL.There are economical ways to get these in such as:cottage cheese/fruit,tuna/yogurt,chicken breast/salad ff dressing,see BFL book.Some supplements are very economical such as Simply Protein 30% off for BFL challengers(comes to less than 50 cents per serving!)add a banana and its cheaper than a reg.meal and an easy way to get a meal in. Good luck, Rick > >Reply-To: bodyforlife >To: <bodyforlife > >Subject: Is anyone doing BFL w/o shakes? >Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:56:24 -0600 (Central Standard Time) > > > I read in the book that virtually everyone who suceeds at BFL uses the >shakes. I checked out the price of his shake mixes at the PX on base, and >the small pack runs around 35.00. I know this isn't a lot to most people, >but w/ my spouse deployed, and me being a SAHM, 35.00 isn't in our budget. >Is there anyone out there who isn't using the shakes? And still suceeding? > > > > >Mother to na and >Proud Wife to US Soldier > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2003 Report Share Posted February 24, 2003 I use Optimum Nutrtion 100% Whey Protein as well. One shake recipe I found in Stella's book is making the shake with oatmeal. She recommends using cooked oatmeal, but if in a hurry she said it can be done with dry as well. I tried it with dry and it was a little gritty but tasted fine. I'm going to try it cooked next time. I also added a little cinnamon, sugar-free maple syrup, and pecans. The shake was around 320 calories and it very cheap to make. You can use your imagination and add whatever you want. Peanut butter, decaf instant coffee, vanilla or other flavorings. You can also make cottage cheese and yogurt shakes. Very cheap and just as easy as making a Myoplex shake (other than the premade). Andy > , > I use Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Protein, which I usually mix with 1% milk for my carb. I get it for 29.99 for 5 lbs. at our local pawn shop and it lasts a looong time. I've heard others get it through vitaglo.com. Maybe this would work for you. I sometimes also add a little ff pudding mix for flavor ( I like butterscotch), or you can add instant coffee, fruit, or pb to doctor it up a bit. Hope this helps! > in Iowa ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 I have been maintaining less than 10% bodyfat (about 9% each month I measure) without shakes for over six months now while keeping to the BFL plan (though I vary my weightlifting routine occasionally). My basic daily intake consists of: 1: Shredded Wheat 'N Bran w/ Multigrain Cheerios and skim milk 2: old fashioned oatmeal w/ natural peanut butter and one scoop of Simply Protein Complete Whey 3: whole wheat tortilla w/ ~4 slices of fresh deli turkey breast and one slice cheese 4: lowfat cottage cheese w/ one banana, one portion of uncooked fresh veggies (roma tomato, cucumber, zucchini, and the like) 5: one cup of Egg Beaters (equivalent to four eggs) scrambled and usually a whole wheat tortilla w/ a little natural peanut butter 6: dinner w/ wife (usually a lean meat, a carb, and a serving of veggies) If I were to enter the contest again, the Simply Protein Complete Whey would fulfill the requirement of using at least one EAS product. And at $25 for a 5 pound container (www.vitaglo.com), it's about the cheapest way to add a basic supplement to your diet. At the rate I use it, I only need a new container about once every few months. The nutrition I've settled upon now is easy to maintain each day and has kept me at my goals (<10% bodyfat). > > I read in the book that virtually everyone who suceeds at BFL uses the > shakes. I checked out the price of his shake mixes at the PX on base, and > the small pack runs around 35.00. I know this isn't a lot to most people, > but w/ my spouse deployed, and me being a SAHM, 35.00 isn't in our budget. > Is there anyone out there who isn't using the shakes? And still suceeding? > > > > > Mother to na and > Proud Wife to US Soldier > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 Hi, That's impressive, especially <10% bf.I too have found good results eating clean with a few scoops of Simply Protein added.I hope you are taking vitamins as C,E,folate,and EFAs might be low.I have found good results with the addition of good fats like flax,olive, and CLA for anabolic support esp after 12 weeks very low fat and cals. Rick(Key West) > " >Reply-To: bodyforlife >To: bodyforlife >Subject: Re: Is anyone doing BFL w/o shakes? >Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:09:26 -0000 > >I have been maintaining less than 10% bodyfat (about 9% each month I >measure) without shakes for over six months now while keeping to the >BFL plan (though I vary my weightlifting routine occasionally). My >basic daily intake consists of: > >1: Shredded Wheat 'N Bran w/ Multigrain Cheerios and skim milk >2: old fashioned oatmeal w/ natural peanut butter and one scoop of >Simply Protein Complete Whey >3: whole wheat tortilla w/ ~4 slices of fresh deli turkey breast and >one slice cheese >4: lowfat cottage cheese w/ one banana, one portion of uncooked fresh >veggies (roma tomato, cucumber, zucchini, and the like) >5: one cup of Egg Beaters (equivalent to four eggs) scrambled and >usually a whole wheat tortilla w/ a little natural peanut butter >6: dinner w/ wife (usually a lean meat, a carb, and a serving of veggies) > >If I were to enter the contest again, the Simply Protein Complete Whey >would fulfill the requirement of using at least one EAS product. And >at $25 for a 5 pound container (www.vitaglo.com), it's about the >cheapest way to add a basic supplement to your diet. At the rate I >use it, I only need a new container about once every few months. The >nutrition I've settled upon now is easy to maintain each day and has >kept me at my goals (<10% bodyfat). > > > > > > > > I read in the book that virtually everyone who suceeds at BFL uses the > > shakes. I checked out the price of his shake mixes at the PX on >base, and > > the small pack runs around 35.00. I know this isn't a lot to most >people, > > but w/ my spouse deployed, and me being a SAHM, 35.00 isn't in our >budget. > > Is there anyone out there who isn't using the shakes? And still >suceeding? > > > > > > > > > > Mother to na and > > Proud Wife to US Soldier > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 : Thanks for the tips. Congratulations on your results and maintaining the lifestyle. I will definitely take your advice on my second challenge. A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 - I agree with your thoughts re: long-term use of supplements. I plan to use them until I get to a maintenance point and then see what fits best in my lifestyle, budget and nutritional needs at that point. Thanks for your additional thoughts. -- A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 , That's awesome that you can maintain that leanness. I'm curious how tall you are? I think I eat more than you do - especially at breakfast. I am 5'7 " and weigh 120 lbs. Our menus sound a lot alike, too. We must have the same taste buds. Sara 1: Shredded Wheat 'N Bran w/ Multigrain Cheerios and skim milk 2: old fashioned oatmeal w/ natural peanut butter and one scoop of Simply Protein Complete Whey 3: whole wheat tortilla w/ ~4 slices of fresh deli turkey breast and one slice cheese 4: lowfat cottage cheese w/ one banana, one portion of uncooked fresh veggies (roma tomato, cucumber, zucchini, and the like) 5: one cup of Egg Beaters (equivalent to four eggs) scrambled and usually a whole wheat tortilla w/ a little natural peanut butter 6: dinner w/ wife (usually a lean meat, a carb, and a serving of veggies) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Sara- My food portions are pretty hefty. I'm actually trying to gradually gain weight. Right now I'm 6'1 " and 190 lbs, which is the heaviest I've ever been in my life. When I finished my first challenge last June I was 179 lbs and 9.5% bodyfat (started at 180 lbs and 15%), so I've been able to slowly gain without increasing my bodyfat...a difficult and slow process. Most weeks I cut my cardio down to two days and increase my lifting to four days. When it stops being so cold in the morning (I'm in Denver), I'm going to go back to my 3x/week, morning " 20-minute aerobic solution " run. As it is right now I'm doing that after work, the same time of day as when I do my lifting. I'm hoping that will move me a little down the leanness scale. From what I've gathered in the last several months of reading/researching, there are very few people that keep the " ripped abs " bodyfat (<6%) at all times, so I'm hoping to be at 8% or so this summer. We'll see. > , > > That's awesome that you can maintain that leanness. I'm curious how tall you are? I think I eat more than you do - especially at breakfast. I am 5'7 " and weigh 120 lbs. > > Our menus sound a lot alike, too. We must have the same taste buds. > > Sara > > 1: Shredded Wheat 'N Bran w/ Multigrain Cheerios and skim milk > 2: old fashioned oatmeal w/ natural peanut butter and one scoop of > Simply Protein Complete Whey > 3: whole wheat tortilla w/ ~4 slices of fresh deli turkey breast and > one slice cheese > 4: lowfat cottage cheese w/ one banana, one portion of uncooked fresh > veggies (roma tomato, cucumber, zucchini, and the like) > 5: one cup of Egg Beaters (equivalent to four eggs) scrambled and > usually a whole wheat tortilla w/ a little natural peanut butter > 6: dinner w/ wife (usually a lean meat, a carb, and a serving of veggies) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 - I guess for me the keys are... * When confronted with a food temptation, I remind myself of my goals. I make a conscious decision that I can wait until my free day (which I take religiously and SERIOUSLY every week). * When I receive the barrage of " you gotta have this supplement " advice and advertisements, I remind myself that I've done fine without them. I realize some supplements are good for fat burning and for meal replacements and certainly some short term goals, but fortunately I've been able to keep to " regular foods " for all my meals, which is my long term goal. I don't officially " plan " on ever stopping this lifestyle (nor does my wife), so I just didn't want to still be doing supplements 5, 10 years from now. I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes about supplements, it's just that they didn't fit into my long term plans. Thanks, > : > Thanks for the tips. Congratulations on your results and maintaining the > lifestyle. I will definitely take your advice on my second challenge. > > A. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 And before I come across as perfect, let me say that I'm not always successful at passing up food " temptations " during the week. The biggest help there, though, is to not have ANY unauthorized foods around the house after the free day. That leaves me with what tempts me at work. > > : > > Thanks for the tips. Congratulations on your results and > maintaining the > > lifestyle. I will definitely take your advice on my second > challenge. > > > > A. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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