Re: ac chelation- having a hard time with dmsa

[Guest guest]

Hi Majidha,

I had a family member living with me--adult, NT, mercury toxic, with really,

really bad gut issues. DMSA was terrible for him. Within a few doses he'd be

having stomach pain and other problems. He clearly needed chelation so I

switched him to td-DMPS and oral ALA combo and it was easier on him. The ALA

still caused some few problems but far less than DMSA. We use the td-dmps from

Cenaverde. It's expensive, but TA members get a discount. If things are really

bad, you can also make homemade td ala. If you're not interested in using the

dmps, I would try just the ala.

Some supps that can help with gut problems are slippery elm, but it can't be

given on round. It can help between rounds though and according to the family

member, relief from it can be pretty quick.

Anita

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> Hi All

> We are into round 5 of AC chelation and my son Aadam is not doing too well.

> -On the first 3 rounds I gave him 8.25 mg dmsa(1/8 mg per pound of body weight

for him)but had to stop as he was having really bad tummy pain,worsening of

constipation,soiling himself at school after a round,stimming,hyperactivity+++

etc)

> We took a 3 week break and started again last weekend.

> He is now only on 4mg dmsa and whilst the problems we had are not as

pronounced,he is still clearly in a lot of discomfort(currently lying face down

on sofa with a big cushion on his tummy and persistantly complaining of tummy

pain,tummy very bloated too-I dont know if I did the right thing but I gave him

some pain relief.

> question-

> Should I stop dmsa altogether next weekend/give more frequent rounds/lower the

dose further or go ahead and just chelate with ala.

> Bit confused as with Aadam abdominal pain has always been down to bowel

loading but his bms are the best they " ve been in a while(attribute this to

increasing antifungals,probios etc).

> tia

> majidha

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

It sounds like quite a high dose you started with. I started my son on 3mg of

DMSA for his first 4 rounds as it takes them a while to get used to it. Have you

thought of dropping the dose. You have plenty of time to up the dose in future

rounds.

Kirsty

>

> Hi All

> We are into round 5 of AC chelation and my son Aadam is not doing too well.

> -On the first 3 rounds I gave him 8.25 mg dmsa(1/8 mg per pound of body weight

for him)but had to stop as he was having really bad tummy pain,worsening of

constipation,soiling himself at school after a round,stimming,hyperactivity+++

etc)

> We took a 3 week break and started again last weekend.

> He is now only on 4mg dmsa and whilst the problems we had are not as

pronounced,he is still clearly in a lot of discomfort(currently lying face down

on sofa with a big cushion on his tummy and persistantly complaining of tummy

pain,tummy very bloated too-I dont know if I did the right thing but I gave him

some pain relief.

> question-

> Should I stop dmsa altogether next weekend/give more frequent rounds/lower the

dose further or go ahead and just chelate with ala.

> Bit confused as with Aadam abdominal pain has always been down to bowel

loading but his bms are the best they " ve been in a while(attribute this to

increasing antifungals,probios etc).

> tia

> majidha

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Majidha

Chelation sometimes caused severe stomach pain and reflux at

our home. OLE resolves it for us. It took about half a day for it to improve

but currently we don’t have any stomach discomfort or reflux chelating.

we use OLE on and off round. We started with one drop and worked up to 1 ml

over several months.

I hope your son feels better soon.

Jess

[Guest guest]

Hi Kirsty

I did drop the dose from 8.25 mg for the first three rounds to 4mg for the last

two rounds-maybe I should reduce further?

Majidha

> >

> > Hi All

> > We are into round 5 of AC chelation and my son Aadam is not doing too well.

> > -On the first 3 rounds I gave him 8.25 mg dmsa(1/8 mg per pound of body

weight for him)but had to stop as he was having really bad tummy pain,worsening

of constipation,soiling himself at school after a

round,stimming,hyperactivity+++ etc)

> > We took a 3 week break and started again last weekend.

> > He is now only on 4mg dmsa and whilst the problems we had are not as

pronounced,he is still clearly in a lot of discomfort(currently lying face down

on sofa with a big cushion on his tummy and persistantly complaining of tummy

pain,tummy very bloated too-I dont know if I did the right thing but I gave him

some pain relief.

> > question-

> > Should I stop dmsa altogether next weekend/give more frequent rounds/lower

the dose further or go ahead and just chelate with ala.

> > Bit confused as with Aadam abdominal pain has always been down to bowel

loading but his bms are the best they " ve been in a while(attribute this to

increasing antifungals,probios etc).

> > tia

> > majidha

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jess

thanks for the info on OLE.

Ive only ever used it in the past in a capsule form-I was wondering where you

get it in liquid form?

tia

majidha

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> Hi Majidha

>

>

>

> Chelation sometimes caused severe stomach pain and reflux at our home. OLE

> resolves it for us. It took about half a day for it to improve but

> currently we don't have any stomach discomfort or reflux chelating. we use

> OLE on and off round. We started with one drop and worked up to 1 ml over

> several months.

>

>

>

> I hope your son feels better soon.

>

>

>

> Jess

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Anita

I will try just ala next round and see how he gets on with that.

I do have some td dmps(havent used it yet)but will leave this for a later

round,so I can see the effect of each chelator

thanks for your advice

majidha.x

> >

> > Hi All

> > We are into round 5 of AC chelation and my son Aadam is not doing too well.

> > -On the first 3 rounds I gave him 8.25 mg dmsa(1/8 mg per pound of body

weight for him)but had to stop as he was having really bad tummy pain,worsening

of constipation,soiling himself at school after a

round,stimming,hyperactivity+++ etc)

> > We took a 3 week break and started again last weekend.

> > He is now only on 4mg dmsa and whilst the problems we had are not as

pronounced,he is still clearly in a lot of discomfort(currently lying face down

on sofa with a big cushion on his tummy and persistantly complaining of tummy

pain,tummy very bloated too-I dont know if I did the right thing but I gave him

some pain relief.

> > question-

> > Should I stop dmsa altogether next weekend/give more frequent rounds/lower

the dose further or go ahead and just chelate with ala.

> > Bit confused as with Aadam abdominal pain has always been down to bowel

loading but his bms are the best they " ve been in a while(attribute this to

increasing antifungals,probios etc).

> > tia

> > majidha

> >

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