Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 i'd rather have a non verbal autistic son than a grave marker. Jimmy Kilpatrick wrote: US doctor charged with death of autistic boy <http://ednews.org/articles/19816/1/US-doctor-charged-with-death-of-autistic -boy/Page1.html> An American doctor has been charged with causing the death of a five-year-old autistic British boy by botching a controversial chemical treatment Jimmy Kilpatrick Special Education Advocate and Consultant <http://www.specialedadvocate.org/> SpecialEdAdvocate.org P.O. Box 17392 Sugar Land, Texas 77496-17392 832 814-7463 info@... <http://www.ednews.org/careers/> EdNews/careers.org A jobsite for jobseekers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 Again this doctor gave the WRONG medication. How many times does this happen in 'mainstream' medicine where people die on a DAILY basis and it is covered up and no one ever hears about it. What about Vioxx, how many people has it killed? And that's a 'sanctioned' medicine rightly prescribed not one prescribed by MISTAKE. http://www.denverpost.com/ci_7415453 I read that Merck is paying $4.85 Billion Vioxx settlement for this cover up of how Vioxx causes heart problems and deaths. We really need to put things in prespective here, One WRONG medicine causing a death gets so much publicity because it points to 'alternative ' means of dealing with metal toxicity that vaccines and pollution cause, versus hundreds maybe even thousands of deaths caused by Vioxx, yet because it is mainstream medicine and a PHARMACEUTICAL company involved, hardly any publicity. Nagla > > US doctor charged with death of autistic boy > <http://ednews.org/articles/19816/1/US-doctor-charged-with-death-of- autistic > -boy/Page1.html> > > An American doctor has been charged with causing the death of a > five-year-old autistic British boy by botching a controversial chemical > treatment > > > > > > Jimmy Kilpatrick > > Special Education Advocate and Consultant > > <http://www.specialedadvocate.org/> SpecialEdAdvocate.org > > P.O. Box 17392 > > Sugar Land, Texas 77496-17392 > > 832 814-7463 > > info@... > > > > <http://www.ednews.org/careers/> EdNews/careers.org > > A jobsite for jobseekers. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 I'm sure the family will find great comfort with that knowledge. I don't know how many children die(d) as a result of Vioxx. But the fact that you've used the word " Again " to begin your rebuttal below tells us that more than one child has died from chelation therapy. And as far as I'm concerned one child is simply too many. Adults have the choice whether or not to take Vioxx, tylenol, etc. Children are at the mercy of their parents decisions of administering drugs including that of chelation therapy. Who researches and manufactures the drugs used in chelation? can't possibly be any of the big pharma, could it? that's ok, you could still pin this child's death on big pharma if you wanted - just blame them for not training the doctor well enough with the use of the drugs he was administering. asccnagla wrote: Again this doctor gave the WRONG medication. How many times does this happen in 'mainstream' medicine where people die on a DAILY basis and it is covered up and no one ever hears about it. What about Vioxx, how many people has it killed? And that's a 'sanctioned' medicine rightly prescribed not one prescribed by MISTAKE. http://www.denverpost.com/ci_7415453 I read that Merck is paying $4.85 Billion Vioxx settlement for this cover up of how Vioxx causes heart problems and deaths. We really need to put things in prespective here, One WRONG medicine causing a death gets so much publicity because it points to 'alternative ' means of dealing with metal toxicity that vaccines and pollution cause, versus hundreds maybe even thousands of deaths caused by Vioxx, yet because it is mainstream medicine and a PHARMACEUTICAL company involved, hardly any publicity. Nagla > > US doctor charged with death of autistic boy > <http://ednews.org/articles/19816/1/US-doctor-charged-with-death-of- autistic > -boy/Page1.html> > > An American doctor has been charged with causing the death of a > five-year-old autistic British boy by botching a controversial chemical > treatment > > > > > > Jimmy Kilpatrick > > Special Education Advocate and Consultant > > <http://www.specialedadvocate.org/> SpecialEdAdvocate.org > > P.O. Box 17392 > > Sugar Land, Texas 77496-17392 > > 832 814-7463 > > info@... > > > > <http://www.ednews.org/careers/> EdNews/careers.org > > A jobsite for jobseekers. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 I used the word again because I sent the same rebuttal to the same article previously, I am not aware of another child that died from being given the wrong chelation drug. I am aware though that this SAME CASE keeps getting sent over and over and over again every time a new progression happens in it. I am very sorry this child died from a MEDICAL MISTAKE which is the point here. MEDICAL MISTAKES happen every day to children and adults. Nagla > > > > US doctor charged with death of autistic boy > > <http://ednews.org/articles/19816/1/US-doctor-charged-with-death- of- > autistic > > -boy/Page1.html> > > > > An American doctor has been charged with causing the death of a > > five-year-old autistic British boy by botching a controversial > chemical > > treatment > > > > > > > > > > > > Jimmy Kilpatrick > > > > Special Education Advocate and Consultant > > > > <http://www.specialedadvocate.org/> SpecialEdAdvocate.org > > > > P.O. Box 17392 > > > > Sugar Land, Texas 77496-17392 > > > > 832 814-7463 > > > > info@ > > > > > > > > <http://www.ednews.org/careers/> EdNews/careers.org > > > > A jobsite for jobseekers. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 What about the children that have died from Vaccines? Is that not one too many child dying as well? Or does that reasoning not apply to vaccines? http://www.rense.com/general57/ddee.htm http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58004 http://www.vaccinationnews.com/scandals/Oct_18_02/Scandal38.htm Nagla > > > > US doctor charged with death of autistic boy > > <http://ednews.org/articles/19816/1/US-doctor-charged-with-death- of- > autistic > > -boy/Page1.html> > > > > An American doctor has been charged with causing the death of a > > five-year-old autistic British boy by botching a controversial > chemical > > treatment > > > > > > > > > > > > Jimmy Kilpatrick > > > > Special Education Advocate and Consultant > > > > <http://www.specialedadvocate.org/> SpecialEdAdvocate.org > > > > P.O. Box 17392 > > > > Sugar Land, Texas 77496-17392 > > > > 832 814-7463 > > > > info@ > > > > > > > > <http://www.ednews.org/careers/> EdNews/careers.org > > > > A jobsite for jobseekers. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 Right on, Nagla! I, too, am awfully sick of people citing this one medical mistake, over and over again, to claim that all chelation is bad. And anyone who uses the fact that children aren't choosing to be chelated is ridiculous - parents have to give kids medications for serious illnesses all the time that the kids don't " choose " to have. Heck, chelation is the mainstream method for treating kids with lead poisoning, so what's the difference if you're using it to treat other heavy metal poisoning? I just don't get these people who apparently would prefer that seriously physiologically sick autistic children be left to suffer rather than treat them with biomedical interventions. If the kid wasn't autistic but tested high for metals, would these people FINALLY accept that the kid needed to be chelated? If they weren't autistic but had the same chronic gastrointestinal issues, would they FINALLY accept the common biomedical treatments for intestinal inflammation? What is it about the fact that these poor, sick kids are autistic that makes all these anti-biomedical people willing to let them suffer? I don't see them complaining about NT kids who receive treatment for the same issues... - Jimmy 10/12/2001 > > > > > > US doctor charged with death of autistic boy > > > <http://ednews.org/articles/19816/1/US-doctor-charged-with- death- > of- > > autistic > > > -boy/Page1.html> > > > > > > An American doctor has been charged with causing the death of a > > > five-year-old autistic British boy by botching a controversial > > chemical > > > treatment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jimmy Kilpatrick > > > > > > Special Education Advocate and Consultant > > > > > > <http://www.specialedadvocate.org/> SpecialEdAdvocate.org > > > > > > P.O. Box 17392 > > > > > > Sugar Land, Texas 77496-17392 > > > > > > 832 814-7463 > > > > > > info@ > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.ednews.org/careers/> EdNews/careers.org > > > > > > A jobsite for jobseekers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Do your autistic children suffer? I would never consider mine to suffer. He is a very happy child, and while we go through more effort with him..........that is a risk I could never take. He is not suffering by any means. I don't know how other kids are, just mine. ~By His Grace, and for His Glory~ Crystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Many of us do have children with Autism that are very sick internally. Chronic viral infections, severe gut issues, inflammation, etc... These children are truly suffering and in great pain... hence the constant crying, self injurious behaviors, hitting their heads, seeking pressure to relive pain, etc... I am always happy to hear when children on the spectrum are not in physical pain, but many truly are. > > Do your autistic children suffer? I would never consider mine to suffer. > He is a very happy child, and while we go through more effort with > him..........that is a risk I could never take. He is not suffering by any > means. I don't know how other kids are, just mine. > > ~By His Grace, and for His Glory~ > Crystal > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 That's great to hear. I am not sure what risk are you talking about as I can not follow up all the posts to this thread. However, may I ask if you child is non-verbal? Does he have a way to express himself, his needs,..etc? If not, I am wondering whether he gets frustrated, act up, or tantrum? While I am not sure whether my son suffers physically as he is non-verbal, but I do know that sometimes he bursts in tears out of the blue. Other times, he cries and gets angry and screams and we can not figure out why. Re: US doctor charged with death of autistic boy > Do your autistic children suffer? I would never consider mine to suffer. > He is a very happy child, and while we go through more effort with > him..........that is a risk I could never take. He is not suffering by > any means. I don't know how other kids are, just mine. > > > > ~By His Grace, and for His Glory~ > Crystal > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Absolutely correct. Over 500,000 people die every year from medical mistakes. The only reason they are going after this guy is because the ESTABLISHMENT (the power holders) do not agree with the type of treatment. S. Re: US doctor charged with death of autistic boy I used the word again because I sent the same rebuttal to the same article previously, I am not aware of another child that died from being given the wrong chelation drug. I am aware though that this SAME CASE keeps getting sent over and over and over again every time a new progression happens in it. I am very sorry this child died from a MEDICAL MISTAKE which is the point here. MEDICAL MISTAKES happen every day to children and adults. Nagla > > > > US doctor charged with death of autistic boy > > <http://ednews.org/articles/19816/1/US-doctor-charged-with-death- of- > autistic > > -boy/Page1.html> > > > > An American doctor has been charged with causing the death of a > > five-year-old autistic British boy by botching a controversial > chemical > > treatment > > > > > > > > > > > > Jimmy Kilpatrick > > > > Special Education Advocate and Consultant > > > > <http://www.specialedadvocate.org/> SpecialEdAdvocate.org > > > > P.O. Box 17392 > > > > Sugar Land, Texas 77496-17392 > > > > 832 814-7463 > > > > info@ > > > > > > > > <http://www.ednews.org/careers/> EdNews/careers.org > > > > A jobsite for jobseekers. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 If every doctor who made a medical mistake were charged like this, we wouldn't need malpractice lawyers. There are TONS of doctors who are KNOWN to regularly make mistakes--mistakes that cost people their lives, their fertility, their health, their organs--and allowed to continue practicing because medicine is the biggest old boys club there is in this country. The only reason this doctor is being punished is because the procedure he used supports an idea that is currently heresy in the medical field--That the bodies of the children with autism that the docs are treating have toxic levels of heavy metals--mercury, lead, aluminum, arsencic, antimony, etc. I find it highly interesting that no news reports of this have mentioned that the boy's father is a physician as well. The reports paint a picture that the family was led down a merry path by a physician, when in reality the boy's family had well researched what they were doing. They chose to have their child undergo a risky procedure. This is a choice made by thousands of parents every day as they choose whether to have surgery for their child or any other procedure with risk. If this were a child with cancer who died because the doctor gave him the wrong chemo drug, the doctor would not even have been investigated. He would have been protected with " well medical mistakes happen. You can't hold a doctor responsible for that. " and indeed most are not. I myself would prefer a grave marker than knowing that I was allowing and facilitating my child to live with real, severe physical pain every day. But I think there is another way. I think that there are many complimentary health practices that have shown promise and effectiveness (like cranio sacral, like HBOT, like NAET, like diet, like quantum touch, like acupuncture, like homeopathy etc) and do not carry that level of risk. They may be slower because they work to stimulate the body's own magnificent healing mechanism, but they can work very well. But that is a choice that each parent has to make for their child, and I would never hold any parent's choice against them. S. Re: US doctor charged with death of autistic boy i'd rather have a non verbal autistic son than a grave marker. Jimmy Kilpatrick wrote: US doctor charged with death of autistic boy <http://ednews.org/articles/19816/1/US-doctor-charged-with-death-of-autist ic -boy/Page1.html> An American doctor has been charged with causing the death of a five-year-old autistic British boy by botching a controversial chemical treatment Jimmy Kilpatrick Special Education Advocate and Consultant <http://www.specialedadvocate.org/> SpecialEdAdvocate.org P.O. Box 17392 Sugar Land, Texas 77496-17392 832 814-7463 info@... <http://www.ednews.org/careers/> EdNews/careers.org A jobsite for jobseekers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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