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i'd rather have a non verbal autistic son than a grave marker.

Jimmy Kilpatrick wrote: US doctor charged

with death of autistic boy

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An American doctor has been charged with causing the death of a

five-year-old autistic British boy by botching a controversial chemical

treatment

Jimmy Kilpatrick

Special Education Advocate and Consultant

<http://www.specialedadvocate.org/> SpecialEdAdvocate.org

P.O. Box 17392

Sugar Land, Texas 77496-17392

832 814-7463

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Again this doctor gave the WRONG medication. How many times does

this happen in 'mainstream' medicine where people die on a DAILY

basis and it is covered up and no one ever hears about it.

What about Vioxx, how many people has it killed? And that's

a 'sanctioned' medicine rightly prescribed not one prescribed by

MISTAKE.

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_7415453

I read that Merck is paying $4.85 Billion Vioxx settlement for this

cover up of how Vioxx causes heart problems and deaths.

We really need to put things in prespective here, One WRONG medicine

causing a death gets so much publicity because it points

to 'alternative ' means of dealing with metal toxicity that vaccines

and pollution cause, versus hundreds maybe even thousands of deaths

caused by Vioxx, yet because it is mainstream medicine and a

PHARMACEUTICAL company involved, hardly any publicity.

Nagla

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> An American doctor has been charged with causing the death of a

> five-year-old autistic British boy by botching a controversial

chemical

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> Jimmy Kilpatrick

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> Special Education Advocate and Consultant

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> P.O. Box 17392

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> Sugar Land, Texas 77496-17392

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> 832 814-7463

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> info@...

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> A jobsite for jobseekers.

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I'm sure the family will find great comfort with that knowledge.

I don't know how many children die(d) as a result of Vioxx. But the fact that

you've used the word " Again " to begin your rebuttal below tells us that more

than one child has died from chelation therapy. And as far as I'm concerned one

child is simply too many.

Adults have the choice whether or not to take Vioxx, tylenol, etc. Children

are at the mercy of their parents decisions of administering drugs including

that of chelation therapy.

Who researches and manufactures the drugs used in chelation? can't possibly

be any of the big pharma, could it? that's ok, you could still pin this child's

death on big pharma if you wanted - just blame them for not training the doctor

well enough with the use of the drugs he was administering.

asccnagla wrote:

Again this doctor gave the WRONG medication. How many times does

this happen in 'mainstream' medicine where people die on a DAILY

basis and it is covered up and no one ever hears about it.

What about Vioxx, how many people has it killed? And that's

a 'sanctioned' medicine rightly prescribed not one prescribed by

MISTAKE.

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_7415453

I read that Merck is paying $4.85 Billion Vioxx settlement for this

cover up of how Vioxx causes heart problems and deaths.

We really need to put things in prespective here, One WRONG medicine

causing a death gets so much publicity because it points

to 'alternative ' means of dealing with metal toxicity that vaccines

and pollution cause, versus hundreds maybe even thousands of deaths

caused by Vioxx, yet because it is mainstream medicine and a

PHARMACEUTICAL company involved, hardly any publicity.

Nagla

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> US doctor charged with death of autistic boy

> <http://ednews.org/articles/19816/1/US-doctor-charged-with-death-of-

autistic

> -boy/Page1.html>

>

> An American doctor has been charged with causing the death of a

> five-year-old autistic British boy by botching a controversial

chemical

> treatment

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>

>

>

>

> Jimmy Kilpatrick

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> Special Education Advocate and Consultant

>

> <http://www.specialedadvocate.org/> SpecialEdAdvocate.org

>

> P.O. Box 17392

>

> Sugar Land, Texas 77496-17392

>

> 832 814-7463

>

> info@...

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>

>

> <http://www.ednews.org/careers/> EdNews/careers.org

>

> A jobsite for jobseekers.

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I used the word again because I sent the same rebuttal to the same

article previously, I am not aware of another child that died from

being given the wrong chelation drug.

I am aware though that this SAME CASE keeps getting sent over and

over and over again every time a new progression happens in it.

I am very sorry this child died from a MEDICAL MISTAKE which is the

point here. MEDICAL MISTAKES happen every day to children and

adults.

Nagla

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> > An American doctor has been charged with causing the death of a

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> chemical

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> > Sugar Land, Texas 77496-17392

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> > 832 814-7463

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What about the children that have died from Vaccines? Is that not one

too many child dying as well? Or does that reasoning not apply to

vaccines?

http://www.rense.com/general57/ddee.htm

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58004

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/scandals/Oct_18_02/Scandal38.htm

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> > five-year-old autistic British boy by botching a controversial

> chemical

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> > <http://www.specialedadvocate.org/> SpecialEdAdvocate.org

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> > P.O. Box 17392

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> > Sugar Land, Texas 77496-17392

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> > 832 814-7463

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> > info@

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Right on, Nagla! I, too, am awfully sick of people citing this one

medical mistake, over and over again, to claim that all chelation is

bad. And anyone who uses the fact that children aren't choosing to

be chelated is ridiculous - parents have to give kids medications for

serious illnesses all the time that the kids don't " choose " to have.

Heck, chelation is the mainstream method for treating kids with lead

poisoning, so what's the difference if you're using it to treat other

heavy metal poisoning?

I just don't get these people who apparently would prefer that

seriously physiologically sick autistic children be left to suffer

rather than treat them with biomedical interventions. If the kid

wasn't autistic but tested high for metals, would these people

FINALLY accept that the kid needed to be chelated? If they weren't

autistic but had the same chronic gastrointestinal issues, would they

FINALLY accept the common biomedical treatments for intestinal

inflammation? What is it about the fact that these poor, sick kids

are autistic that makes all these anti-biomedical people willing to

let them suffer? I don't see them complaining about NT kids who

receive treatment for the same issues...

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Jimmy 10/12/2001

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Do your autistic children suffer? I would never consider mine to suffer. He is

a very happy child, and while we go through more effort with him..........that

is a risk I could never take. He is not suffering by any means. I don't know

how other kids are, just mine.

~By His Grace, and for His Glory~

Crystal

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Many of us do have children with Autism that are very sick internally.

Chronic viral infections, severe gut issues, inflammation, etc... These

children are truly suffering and in great pain... hence the constant crying,

self injurious behaviors, hitting their heads, seeking pressure to relive

pain, etc... I am always happy to hear when children on the spectrum are

not in physical pain, but many truly are.

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> Do your autistic children suffer? I would never consider mine to suffer.

> He is a very happy child, and while we go through more effort with

> him..........that is a risk I could never take. He is not suffering by any

> means. I don't know how other kids are, just mine.

>

> ~By His Grace, and for His Glory~

> Crystal

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That's great to hear.

I am not sure what risk are you talking about as I can not follow up all the

posts to this thread. However, may I ask if you child is non-verbal? Does

he have a way to express himself, his needs,..etc? If not, I am wondering

whether he gets frustrated, act up, or tantrum?

While I am not sure whether my son suffers physically as he is non-verbal,

but I do know that sometimes he bursts in tears out of the blue. Other

times, he cries and gets angry and screams and we can not figure out why.

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autistic boy

> Do your autistic children suffer? I would never consider mine to suffer.

> He is a very happy child, and while we go through more effort with

> him..........that is a risk I could never take. He is not suffering by

> any means. I don't know how other kids are, just mine.

>

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> ~By His Grace, and for His Glory~

> Crystal

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Absolutely correct. Over 500,000 people die every year from medical

mistakes. The only reason they are going after this guy is because

the ESTABLISHMENT (the power holders) do not agree with the type

of treatment.

S.

Re: US doctor charged with death of

autistic boy

I used the word again because I sent the same rebuttal to the same

article previously, I am not aware of another child that died from

being given the wrong chelation drug.

I am aware though that this SAME CASE keeps getting sent over and

over and over again every time a new progression happens in it.

I am very sorry this child died from a MEDICAL MISTAKE which is the

point here. MEDICAL MISTAKES happen every day to children and

adults.

Nagla

> >

> > US doctor charged with death of autistic boy

> > <http://ednews.org/articles/19816/1/US-doctor-charged-with-death-

of-

> autistic

> > -boy/Page1.html>

> >

> > An American doctor has been charged with causing the death of a

> > five-year-old autistic British boy by botching a controversial

> chemical

> > treatment

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Jimmy Kilpatrick

> >

> > Special Education Advocate and Consultant

> >

> > <http://www.specialedadvocate.org/> SpecialEdAdvocate.org

> >

> > P.O. Box 17392

> >

> > Sugar Land, Texas 77496-17392

> >

> > 832 814-7463

> >

> > info@

> >

> >

> >

> > <http://www.ednews.org/careers/> EdNews/careers.org

> >

> > A jobsite for jobseekers.

> >

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If every doctor who made a medical mistake were charged like this, we

wouldn't

need malpractice lawyers. There are TONS of doctors who are KNOWN to

regularly make mistakes--mistakes that cost people their lives, their

fertility,

their health, their organs--and allowed to continue practicing because

medicine

is the biggest old boys club there is in this country.

The only reason this doctor is being punished is because the procedure

he used supports an idea that is currently heresy in the medical field--That

the bodies of the children with autism that the docs are treating have toxic

levels

of heavy metals--mercury, lead, aluminum, arsencic, antimony, etc.

I find

it highly interesting that no news reports of this have mentioned that the

boy's

father is a physician as well. The reports paint a picture that the family

was led down a merry path by a physician, when in reality the boy's family

had well researched what they were doing. They chose to have their

child undergo a risky procedure. This is a choice made by thousands

of parents every day as they choose whether to have surgery for their

child or any other procedure with risk.

If this were a child with cancer who died because the doctor gave him the

wrong chemo drug, the doctor would not even have been investigated.

He would have been protected with " well medical mistakes happen. You

can't hold a doctor responsible for that. " and indeed most are not.

I myself would prefer a grave marker than knowing that I was

allowing and facilitating my child to live with real, severe physical pain

every day. But I think there is another way. I think that there are

many complimentary health practices that have shown promise and

effectiveness (like cranio sacral, like HBOT, like NAET, like diet, like

quantum touch, like acupuncture, like homeopathy etc) and do not

carry that level of risk. They may be slower because they work to

stimulate the body's own magnificent healing mechanism, but they

can work very well.

But that is a choice that each parent has to make for

their child, and I would never hold any parent's choice against them.

S.

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autistic boy

i'd rather have a non verbal autistic son than a grave marker.

Jimmy Kilpatrick wrote: US doctor charged

with death of autistic boy

<http://ednews.org/articles/19816/1/US-doctor-charged-with-death-of-autist

ic

-boy/Page1.html>

An American doctor has been charged with causing the death of a

five-year-old autistic British boy by botching a controversial chemical

treatment

Jimmy Kilpatrick

Special Education Advocate and Consultant

<http://www.specialedadvocate.org/> SpecialEdAdvocate.org

P.O. Box 17392

Sugar Land, Texas 77496-17392

832 814-7463

info@...

<http://www.ednews.org/careers/> EdNews/careers.org

A jobsite for jobseekers.

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