Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 WAPF gave it a thumbs down review but it is up for an . http://www.westonaprice.org/Food-Inc.html > > It seems that the faked people in Hollywood have taken note of fake food in America. Don > http://www.alternet.org/media/145936/the_skinny_on_oscar-nominated_documentaries\ _%27food_inc.%27_and_%27the_cove%27_ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Whatever the WAPF reviewer thinks of it, it was a well made film, that brought up important points about where food comes from, and the agrimonsters running things. I think it brings issues of food to many viewers that hadn't thought about it so deeply before. I'm disappointed when friends tell me they'll stop eating meat or dairy because of that film's portrayal of CAFO's, when a good honest righteous farmer like Salatin is given so much screen time. Some folks I know are swearing off animal products unless they know they were raised humanely because of this film. If deciding not support the corporate giants is what people take away from it, then it's done some real good in the world. If they decide to start supporting local sustainable agriculture, even better. I agree with the WAPF reviewer's concern about more regulations being a problem for small farmers, but I don't think that's all the movie is about. And maybe the disgusting methods of corporate agriculture need close scrutiny by the government that subsidizes them, without overburdening small farmers. I wish I had the answer for this, but something that big needs reeling in by someone. Why do the same ridiculous standards have to apply to all sizes of farms? Anyone seen a more complex regulatory system in place in other parts of the world? From a viewer that thoroughly enjoyed Food Inc (and think it deserves an even though I don't agree with everything it might imply- but who am I to censor the filmmakers?), and is against such beastly ideas as NAIS and overburdening small farmers in the myriad of other ways the USDA and FDA manages, Rebekah WAPF gave it a thumbs down review but it is up for an . http://www.westonaprice.org/Food-Inc.html > > It seems that the faked people in Hollywood have taken note of fake food in America. Don > http://www.alternet.org/media/145936/the_skinny_on_oscar-nominated_documentaries_%27food_inc.%27_and_%27the_cove%27_ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 I agree! It was a great movie that EVERYONE in America (the world) NEEDS to watch! It should be required in schools! blessings nancy I know that my Redeemer lives and in the end, He will stand upon the earth! Job 19:25 > > Whatever the WAPF reviewer thinks of it, it was a well made film, that > brought up important points about where food comes from, and the > agrimonsters running things. I think it brings issues of food to many > viewers that hadn't thought about it so deeply before. I'm disappointed when > friends tell me they'll stop eating meat or dairy because of that film's > portrayal of CAFO's, when a good honest righteous farmer like Salatin > is given so much screen time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 That was my issue with the film. Even though it was very thought provoking, it left way too much leeway for people to get the impression that they shouldn't be eating animal products at all. Most of us in this group are able to see by that, but many, particularly younger people, don't have the frame of reference to really see how humane, sustainable animal agriculture is very good. I have a sister who's a vegetarian, and she used the film to bolster her feelings that all animal products should be avoided. The real message could have been better promoted: Industrial ag of any form is bad for us and the planet. > > Whatever the WAPF reviewer thinks of it, it was a well made film, that > brought up important points about where food comes from, and the > agrimonsters running things. I think it brings issues of food to many > viewers that hadn't thought about it so deeply before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 > Whatever the WAPF reviewer thinks of it, it was a well made film, that > brought up important points about where food comes from, and the > agrimonsters running things. I think it brings issues of food to many > viewers that hadn't thought about it so deeply before. Unfortunately, people outside of agriculture who watched this movie do not have the background to fully understand it's messages. Most people I know, came away as confirmed vegetarians. Some even went so far as to condemn me for my sustainable ag practices because I was part of this horrible chain of meat producers. I thought it was a great film but I was of the same mind as the filmmaker. I am afraid that your average Joe consumer was not educated enough to know what they were really seeing. The visuals of slaughter houses were far more lasting than the calm conversations of Salatin, who most had never heard of. Food Inc shared an important message but unfortunately, I think its prime audience missed the target. KimIndiana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Anyone that couldn't get the proper message just wasn't paying attention.Agri-business on a mega-size scale is uncontrollable on both a macro and micro level, and that governments world-wide have bought into the globalist free-trade swindle as the answer to a sustainable food supply sufficient to feed the world is the real problem. Distribution disrupted by wars, warlords and politics, and transportation are the real problems that leaves so many world-wide starving not inadequate food production.  > Whatever the WAPF reviewer thinks of it, it was a well made film, that > brought up important points about where food comes from, and the > agrimonsters running things. I think it brings issues of food to many > viewers that hadn't thought about it so deeply before. Unfortunately, people outside of agriculture who watched this movie do not have the background to fully understand it's messages.  Most people I know, came away as confirmed vegetarians.  Some even went so far as to condemn me for my sustainable ag practices because I was part of this horrible chain of meat producers.  I thought it was a great film but I was of the same mind as the filmmaker.  I am afraid that your average Joe consumer was not educated enough to know what they were really seeing.  The visuals of slaughter houses were far more lasting than the calm conversations of Salatin, who most had never heard of.  Food Inc shared an important message but unfortunately, I think its prime audience missed the target. KimIndiana -- Wise men ask questions, fools remain forever condemned, afraid of knowledge.The eyes see only what the mind is prepared to comprehend. Goethe: “No man is more hopelessly enslaved, than he who falsely believes that he is free†Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 was talking with some people a couple of weeks ago about Food Inc. One guy had a doubtful look on his face. When questioned, he thought these were isolated incidences. Not the Norm. I asked if he had seen the movie, no but he had heard about if from different people! I point blank told him he needed to SEE the movie not just HEAR ABOUT it from other people! Oh.....did I mention this guy is either on the Iowa or National Corn Board! (Can't remember which one. But he was just in California at a big meeting....) I considered the source. This is what we are up against! Industrial ag has poisoned them! ;-) Ro IA Re: FOOD INC. REVISITED That was my issue with the film. Even though it was very thought provoking, it left way too much leeway for people to get the impression that they shouldn't be eating animal products at all. Most of us in this group are able to see by that, but many, particularly younger people, don't have the frame of reference to really see how humane, sustainable animal agriculture is very good. I have a sister who's a vegetarian, and she used the film to bolster her feelings that all animal products should be avoided. The real message could have been better promoted: Industrial ag of any form is bad for us and the planet.>> Whatever the WAPF reviewer thinks of it, it was a well made film, that> brought up important points about where food comes from, and the> agrimonsters running things. I think it brings issues of food to many> viewers that hadn't thought about it so deeply before. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2730 - Release Date: 03/08/10 07:34:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 I’m surprised that you feel that there is no way to control Big Ag, on any level (mega, macro, micro) or that governments “world-wide” are in this same predicament. The control mechanism can be found as close as your back pocket. It’s called your wallet and it hold the key to control, money. Big Ag gives its customers what they ask for (i.e. buys). In this case, the public has asked for cheap food and that’s what we’ve been given. You don’t like cheap, mass produced food. Stop buying it. They’ll stop producing it. It’s called capitalism. Most of the time, it works. In this case, it has worked all too well. We’ve gotten what we’ve asked for in spades. As for governments around the world, I’m afraid you haven’t looked too closely around the world. The US consumer is the most quality ignorant buyer ever to walk on two feet. What passes for “food” here would not be fed to the hogs, cows, chickens, ducks or goats in most other countries. Shaw, P.E. The significant problems we face cannot be solved by the same level of thinking that created them -- Albert Einstein Shaw Consulting, LLC PO Box 4259 Truckee, CA 96160 Phone: Fax: www.shaweng.com CONFIDENTIALITY WARNING: This email may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any unauthorized use or disclosure of this communication is prohibited. If you believe that you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your system. From: RawDairy [mailto:RawDairy ] On Behalf Of Rick Adam Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 12:53 PM To: RawDairy ; Kim Hill Subject: Re: Re: FOOD INC. REVISITED Anyone that couldn't get the proper message just wasn't paying attention. Agri-business on a mega-size scale is uncontrollable on both a macro and micro level, and that governments world-wide have bought into the globalist free-trade swindle as the answer to a sustainable food supply sufficient to feed the world is the real problem. Distribution disrupted by wars, warlords and politics, and transportation are the real problems that leaves so many world-wide starving not inadequate food production. On 8 March 2010 12:25, Kim Hill <kilhillgmail> wrote: > Whatever the WAPF reviewer thinks of it, it was a well made film, that > brought up important points about where food comes from, and the > agrimonsters running things. I think it brings issues of food to many > viewers that hadn't thought about it so deeply before. Unfortunately, people outside of agriculture who watched this movie do not have the background to fully understand it's messages. Most people I know, came away as confirmed vegetarians. Some even went so far as to condemn me for my sustainable ag practices because I was part of this horrible chain of meat producers. I thought it was a great film but I was of the same mind as the filmmaker. I am afraid that your average Joe consumer was not educated enough to know what they were really seeing. The visuals of slaughter houses were far more lasting than the calm conversations of Salatin, who most had never heard of. Food Inc shared an important message but unfortunately, I think its prime audience missed the target. Kim Indiana -- Wise men ask questions, fools remain forever condemned, afraid of knowledge. The eyes see only what the mind is prepared to comprehend. Goethe: “No man is more hopelessly enslaved, than he who falsely believes that he is free” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 I have to profoundly agree with the following statment. We have not bought meat or dairy, except cheese from the store in many years. If a lot of us did the same it would have a profound impact. I try to let all who I meet know that it can be done and done better when you do it yourself. Even on a small scale you can make a statment. I also try to help as many as I can get out of the grocery store. They are amazed at what they can do. Chris The control mechanism can be found as close as your back pocket. It’s called your wallet and it hold the key to control, money. Big Ag gives its customers what they ask for (i.e. buys). In this case, the public has asked for cheap food and that’s what we’ve been given. You don’t like cheap, mass produced food. Stop buying it. They’ll stop producing it. It’s called capitalism. Most of the time, it works. In this case, it has worked all too well. We’ve gotten what we’ve asked for in spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 The control mechanism can be found as close as your back pocket. It’s called your wallet and it hold the key to control, money. I, too, agree with this statement. It may be a slow fight, but it is worth it. http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/consumer/u-s-healthy-eating-trends-part-4-store-brands-expand-healthy-offerings/ As for the movie itself, I really enjoyed it. Well, enjoy isn’t the right word, but I was happy that these issues were brought out of the shadows. We have to start somewhere, right? And if our friends were totally turned off by the slaughterhouse scenes and convinced that vegetarianism is better, then maybe we have an opportunity to educate them on good animal husbandry practices and what it does for the economy, environment, etc. Has anyone seen the movie “The Future of Food”? It was produced in 2004 (I think), and it’s far scarier and darker than “Food, Inc.” in my opinion. I was appalled at what the movie revealed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 I preferred Fresh, The Movie to Food Inc. http://www.freshthemovie.com/ Unfortunately, it's not for sale. The owners of the movie only sell rights to screenings. http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/5958/p/d/freshthemovie/shop/items.sjs (Thanks for finding this link Carolyn) It's heavily based on the practices of Polyface Farms. You see the Egg Mobile, he talks about his hogs. No depressing story about a sick kid. After the showing there were a few speakers, Salatin was one. He explained that Polyface was having trouble with the FDA approved meat processing center, so the farm bought into one for more control. Unfortunately, not all small farmers have that option. (Prior to the showing, organic food venders were giving out information and samples - yum!) Currently, I'm reading " Everything I Want To Do Is Illegal, " by Salatin. It covers a lot of the same material. Cheers! JP. > > The control mechanism can be found as close as your back pocket. It's called > your wallet and it hold the key to control, money. > > > > I, too, agree with this statement. It may be a slow fight, but it is worth > it. > > > > http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/consumer/u-s-healthy-eating-trends-part- > 4-store-brands-expand-healthy-offerings/ > > > > As for the movie itself, I really enjoyed it. Well, enjoy isn't the right > word, but I was happy that these issues were brought out of the shadows. We > have to start somewhere, right? And if our friends were totally turned off > by the slaughterhouse scenes and convinced that vegetarianism is better, > then maybe we have an opportunity to educate them on good animal husbandry > practices and what it does for the economy, environment, etc. > > > > Has anyone seen the movie " The Future of Food " ? It was produced in 2004 (I > think), and it's far scarier and darker than " Food, Inc. " in my opinion. I > was appalled at what the movie revealed. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Your can buy the DVD of Fresh the movie if you agree to host a screening. It's $29.95 if you show it to groups of 1-20 in a home setting. It's a nice seque to show Fresh after folks see Food Inc. > > I preferred Fresh, The Movie to Food Inc. > > http://www.freshthemovie.com/ > > Unfortunately, it's not for sale. The owners of the movie only sell rights to screenings. > > http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/5958/p/d/freshthemovie/shop/items.sjs > (Thanks for finding this link Carolyn) > > It's heavily based on the practices of Polyface Farms. You see the Egg Mobile, he talks about his hogs. No depressing story about a sick kid. After the showing there were a few speakers, Salatin was one. He explained that Polyface was having trouble with the FDA approved meat processing center, so the farm bought into one for more control. Unfortunately, not all small farmers have that option. (Prior to the showing, organic food venders were giving out information and samples - yum!) > > Currently, I'm reading " Everything I Want To Do Is Illegal, " by Salatin. It covers a lot of the same material. > > Cheers! JP. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 The industrial food machine affects all of our food,not just the animal products. I thought the Food Inc movie did a good job of showing that. Many of the folks we spoke to after the screening of Food Inc were realizing that they needed to learn how to cook. A few were in denial ( " the gov't wouldn't allow it if it were harmful " types!) We had a huge increase in crowds at the farmers markets after Food Inc was screened in this area (San Francisco Bay Area). I noticed that most of the pastured meat/egg producers at the two FMs I frequent have been selling out quickly on all of their inventory that wasn't resevered by customer pre-orders. Whole Foods also had an increase in requests for pastured meat/egg products at the same time. > > > > > > > > Whatever the WAPF reviewer thinks of it, it was a well made film, that > > > brought up important points about where food comes from, and the > > > agrimonsters running things. I think it brings issues of food to many > > > viewers that hadn't thought about it so deeply before. > > > > > > Unfortunately, people outside of agriculture who watched this movie do not > have the background to fully understand it's messages. Most people I know, > came away as confirmed vegetarians. Some even went so far as to condemn me > for my sustainable ag practices because I was part of this horrible chain of > meat producers. I thought it was a great film but I was of the same mind as > the filmmaker. I am afraid that your average Joe consumer was not educated > enough to know what they were really seeing. The visuals of slaughter > houses were far more lasting than the calm conversations of Salatin, > who most had never heard of. Food Inc shared an important message but > unfortunately, I think its prime audience missed the target. > > Kim > Indiana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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