Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Has anyone come across the 'Rife Digital 2011' generator? It is advertised for under $500 and comes with hand and foot straps. I was wanting to know if anyone on the forum has heard of this and if they think it is likely to effective compared to say GB4000? Any suggestions or discussion appreciated. Specification is stated as - 24Mhz Core Quartz Crystal - 24Mhz Crystal Arbitrary Square waveform - The Advanced 'Rife Digital' Rife Machine - Suits Home, Doctor or Natural Therapist Clinical use - 3500 Disease Frequency book included with thousands of frequencies for diseases including Cancer, Lymes Disease - 1 Million Hertz frequencies available - Programmable from 0000.01Khz to 1 Million Hertz - 10 Program selections - Lab Tested Pure Square Waveform on all Rife frequencies - Harmonic Waveform periodic on 100% of Frequencies - Uninterrupted Program Sequences - Automatic Timer function plus manual over-ride. - Power Adapter Rating: 1 AMP- Megahertz Power Port Outlet (Quad Port) - Quad Wrist-strap Connectors - Capable of Electro Therapy for 2 people simultaneously - Power Frequency Output up to 1000KHZ - All Countries DC Switching mode Power Supply Adapter (US110v - 230/240/250v) - Idle Mode: Default Mode , Rife Digital waits for your instructions - Program Mode: http://www.rifedigital.com/php2/rifedigital.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 This particular machine hasn’t been around very long so wouldn’t have too much feedback available. I checked it out for a friend last fall and the only (one) feedback I could find was quite negative. My friend decided against buying it and invested in something else. Bonita PoulinCanadian CoordinatorGLOBAL RECOGNITION CAMPAIGNMultiple Chemical Sensitivityand other Chemically Induced Illnesses, Diseases & Injuryaffecting civilians and military personnelwww.mcs-global.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I recently purchased this machine. I've only used it for a week and have never used another machine before so I can't compare. I plan on using it for the time being and upgrading to the GB4000 or something comparable in the future. Sharon ------------------------ Has anyone come across the 'Rife Digital 2011' generator?It is advertised for under $500 and comes with hand and foot straps.I was wanting to know if anyone on the forum has heard of this and if they think it is likely to effective compared to say GB4000?Any suggestions or discussion appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Hi All,Is there anyone in Colorado who has a Rife machine? I would be interested in seeing it, renting it from you, hearing your stories...whatever you would be comfortable with. If we met, coffee/wheatgrass is of course on me. :)Thanks, AnneSubject: Re: Rife GeneratorTo: Rife Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2011, 2:05 PM I recently purchased this machine. I've only used it for a week and have never used another machine before so I can't compare. I plan on using it for the time being and upgrading to the GB4000 or something comparable in the future. Sharon ------------------------ Has anyone come across the 'Rife Digital 2011' generator?It is advertised for under $500 and comes with hand and foot straps.I was wanting to know if anyone on the forum has heard of this and if they think it is likely to effective compared to say GB4000?Any suggestions or discussion appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I talked to two different reps selling the GB4000, and brought up the Rife digital. Their critiques were these:1) The GB4000 can run many higher frequencies than the Rife Digital, and emits "carrier frequencies, which the digital apparently does not;2) The GB4000 is more powerful and waves will penetrate deep into the body where they need to go.They said both these features are like what Rife was originally doing. Does anyone on the group have input on these criticisms/features?I hear ya, grah2me...I'm trying to decide between these machines as well. Thanks for the question.AnneFrom: grah2me Subject: Rife GeneratorTo: Rife Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 9:33 PM Has anyone come across the 'Rife Digital 2011' generator? It is advertised for under $500 and comes with hand and foot straps. I was wanting to know if anyone on the forum has heard of this and if they think it is likely to effective compared to say GB4000? Any suggestions or discussion appreciated. Specification is stated as - 24Mhz Core Quartz Crystal - 24Mhz Crystal Arbitrary Square waveform - The Advanced 'Rife Digital' Rife Machine - Suits Home, Doctor or Natural Therapist Clinical use - 3500 Disease Frequency book included with thousands of frequencies for diseases including Cancer, Lymes Disease - 1 Million Hertz frequencies available - Programmable from 0000.01Khz to 1 Million Hertz - 10 Program selections - Lab Tested Pure Square Waveform on all Rife frequencies - Harmonic Waveform periodic on 100% of Frequencies - Uninterrupted Program Sequences - Automatic Timer function plus manual over-ride. - Power Adapter Rating: 1 AMP- Megahertz Power Port Outlet (Quad Port) - Quad Wrist-strap Connectors - Capable of Electro Therapy for 2 people simultaneously - Power Frequency Output up to 1000KHZ - All Countries DC Switching mode Power Supply Adapter (US110v - 230/240/250v) - Idle Mode: Default Mode , Rife Digital waits for your instructions - Program Mode: http://www.rifedigital.com/php2/rifedigital.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I know someone who bough a $400. rife and returned it. If you are trying to get well it's not the place to save money. I have been able to do soooo much with my GB4000. Right now I am helping a friend with a VERY sick dog. Vet said probably best to put him down but she wanted to try antibiotics first (the owner). The dog was laboring for breath and dripping blood from urinary tract. I dropped off the GB4000 last night and she started eColi protocol for the urinary tract and some anti-bacterial for the respiratory. Today his eyes are brighter and he is not laboring to breath and he ate a little burger. She didn't expect him to live through the night but he is looking better today. This wouldn't be the first animal or person that has literally been pulled off their death bed by a rife. I have personally experienced it several times. One was five years ago a woman born with a lung disease had just gotten out of the hospital bleeding from BOTH lungs (one had done it many times before but not both) Three of us agreed we felt death in the room that night but I loaned her the rife anyway. I helped her set it and left. That was over 5 years ago and she is doing great. If you buy one now it has even more additions. I am going to be upgrading mine in the next couple of weeks. They have added new frequencies and updated the book. I wish everyone had one. I use two frequencies the most that are NOT in the book. frequency 8 for infections and 9 for EVERYTHING else. I do about 50 minutes the first day then 90 the next. That is usually all you need for infections but I keep going on the 90 minute sessions of 9 with 4 days of rest in between. Approx 5 more times. Seems to work on everything from snake bites to the C word. The book is a good one but a few minutes of frequency is seldom enough but you could follow up with book protocols. I just would NEVER exceed 90 minutes a day!!!! And not more than 2 days in a row if you are doing long sessions. I did NOT buy the amplifier. You may not be able to do so long with an amplifier. I never got a good "read" on the amplifier. Subject: Rife GeneratorTo: Rife Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 9:33 PM Has anyone come across the 'Rife Digital 2011' generator?It is advertised for under $500 and comes with hand and foot straps.I was wanting to know if anyone on the forum has heard of this and if they think it is likely to effective compared to say GB4000?Any suggestions or discussion appreciated.Specification is stated as- 24Mhz Core Quartz Crystal- 24Mhz Crystal Arbitrary Square waveform- The Advanced 'Rife Digital' Rife Machine- Suits Home, Doctor or Natural Therapist Clinical use- 3500 Disease Frequency book included with thousands of frequencies for diseases including Cancer, Lymes Disease- 1 Million Hertz frequencies available- Programmable from 0000.01Khz to 1 Million Hertz- 10 Program selections- Lab Tested Pure Square Waveform on all Rife frequencies- Harmonic Waveform periodic on 100% of Frequencies- Uninterrupted Program Sequences- Automatic Timer function plus manual over-ride.- Power Adapter Rating: 1 AMP- Megahertz Power Port Outlet (Quad Port)- Quad Wrist-strap Connectors- Capable of Electro Therapy for 2 people simultaneously- Power Frequency Output up to 1000KHZ- All Countries DC Switching mode Power Supply Adapter (US110v - 230/240/250v)- Idle Mode: Default Mode , Rife Digital waits for your instructions- Program Mode:http://www.rifedigital.com/php2/rifedigital.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 If you DO stick with a rife that costs so little I think you should check out the Vari-Gamma from DR. research made in Germany. I think it's a good device for the money but I'm not sure you would know what frequencies to use with it for what you want to accomplish. The books or written protocols are as important as the devices. It may be capable of doing lots of things but unless someone is providing some good protocols you won't know what they are. If you don't douse or muscle test for frequencies you are dependent on what is written. So a great device with a lame book is still going to produce lame results. I have used several different brands and the frequencies I used with my first one did not cross over to my second one or 3rd one. So it's not like you can consult a chart no matter which device you get. I find it has to be specific for THAT device. Subject: Re: Rife GeneratorTo: Rife Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2011, 2:05 PM I recently purchased this machine. I've only used it for a week and have never used another machine before so I can't compare. I plan on using it for the time being and upgrading to the GB4000 or something comparable in the future. Sharon ------------------------ Has anyone come across the 'Rife Digital 2011' generator?It is advertised for under $500 and comes with hand and foot straps.I was wanting to know if anyone on the forum has heard of this and if they think it is likely to effective compared to say GB4000?Any suggestions or discussion appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Kay, your remarks have been most interesting to read. Thanks for posting them. - Randy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011  Hi Anne, In replying to your questions, I will try to make this as non-technical as possible, while still attempting to explain some things and give a few references. One thing to consider about a pad device. No matter what the top output capability might be for any one device, it will be adjusted by the user to his or her own comfort level as regards what level of current can be tolerated. For instance, the average painful threshold for men (but voluntary muscle control is still possible) is at 60 Hz about 9 mA (milliamps), and for women is 6 mA. This can vary with age, skin conductivity, thickness of the fat layer, etc. At 10,000 hz the pain threshhold mA numbers will be higher: about 55 mA for men, 37 mA for women. These figures are given at www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_3/4.html. Also, the penetration of current is still subject to some extent to the laws of resistance (impedance), even at high frequencies. Tissues with high resistance such as fat and bone still have much less conductivity than other tissues, even at 1 Mhz. For example, as high as 10 Mhz the conductivity of fat is 0.02 Siemens/meter; bone is 0.0237 S/m. But in comparison, muscle is from about 0.7 to 0.96 S/m; whole blood is 1.11 S/m; and most organs will be in the range 0.2 to 0.85 S/m. Also general conductivity in tissues *tends* to rise with increasing frequency, but for some tissues the change between low and high frequencies is not much at all. For instance blood conductivity at 1 Mhz is at 0.71 S/m; but down at 1,000 hz it is 0.68 S/m - hardly any difference! Liver at 1,000 hz is 0.13 S/m, and at 1 Mhz is 0.27-0.30 S/m. (This data is from the CRC Handbook of Biological Effects of Electromagnetic Fields, 1986, p. 88). Because the current will *tend* to follow paths of least resistance, the penetration through all tissues may not be as thorough as implied by some say. The moving charges will tend to "bunch up" on the outside of where there are layers of low conductivity (high resistivity): at membranes around cells and organs, and at fat and bone layers, because it is electrically "easier" for the current to move on one side of the layer rather than to go through it. Now, we need to distinguish between tissues as a bulk material, and between individual cells and their membranes. Cell membranes themselves do become more permeable to changing (AC) current as frequencies get higher. But this is not an event that happens suddenly at 1 Mhz - far from it! The phenomenon begins as low as 1,000 hz, and as the frequency rises, the cell membrane permeability *gradually increases*. The trend continues through about 10 Mhz or a bit higher, then gradually levels off. This region of the spectrum as regards tissue response is called the "beta dispersion" area, and it is mentioned in many biophysics books and articles. It is very much related to the cell membrane responses. And all cells will not react in *exactly* the same way at the various frequency levels. Cell size plays a role, and bacteria have a cell wall which will also influence the response. Some bacteria have specialized wall or membrane molecules which will also have an influence. For a reference, we see for instance the first couple intro sentences of this article, http://www.springerlink.com/content/h333x6724827pv20/ (2007): "The electrical properties of cells are determined mostly by the membrane structures of cells. Charging of membranes - interfacial polarization - affects the impedance of mammalian cells mainly in the frequency range from 10 kHz to 100 Mhz. This interfacial polarization yields the b-dispersion." We want to remember that tissues per se consist of both cells and extracellular fluid. So there are situations wherein even if ionic current may not be getting past a cellular membrane very efficiently at a low frequency, the ionic current may be moving *around* the cells very easily (depending on what type of tissue it is), and influencing the cells in that way. We might want to recall the cancer work that has been coming out of Israel for the past 7 years (google Novocure, or look at http://www.pnas.org/content/104/24/10152.abstract). The research group found *optimal* frequency ranges in the 100,000-300,000 hz region to kill off cancer cells, for the e-field strengths they used - and the beneficial effect fell off at higher frequency ranges. They are doing real, in vivo work, and in fact are applying to the FDA for approval of the technology for at least glioblastomas. Rife's original frequencies for bacteria (21 of them) were all in the region 160,000 - 1.8 Mhz. Of those, only 5 were above 1 Mhz, and 16 were below. There seems to be a possibly that Rife really did have something "right", in the sense that other modern research may be proving his work. The later #4 machine frequencies were all below 1 Mhz. So, these are clues that it may not be necessary to use frequencies above 1 Mhz. In fact for some situations, it may not even be optimal to use frequencies above 1 Mhz. Waveform rise/fall times may play a big role as well, because a sharp upward or downward slope at a relatively low frequency, will mimic the same action in time as a sine wave at a much higher frequency. Best wishes, Char www.dnafrequencies.com Rife GeneratorTo: Rife Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 9:33 PM Has anyone come across the 'Rife Digital 2011' generator?It is advertised for under $500 and comes with hand and foot straps.I was wanting to know if anyone on the forum has heard of this and if they think it is likely to effective compared to say GB4000?Any suggestions or discussion appreciated.Specification is stated as- 24Mhz Core Quartz Crystal- 24Mhz Crystal Arbitrary Square waveform- The Advanced 'Rife Digital' Rife Machine- Suits Home, Doctor or Natural Therapist Clinical use- 3500 Disease Frequency book included with thousands of frequencies for diseases including Cancer, Lymes Disease- 1 Million Hertz frequencies available- Programmable from 0000.01Khz to 1 Million Hertz- 10 Program selections- Lab Tested Pure Square Waveform on all Rife frequencies- Harmonic Waveform periodic on 100% of Frequencies- Uninterrupted Program Sequences- Automatic Timer function plus manual over-ride.- Power Adapter Rating: 1 AMP- Megahertz Power Port Outlet (Quad Port)- Quad Wrist-strap Connectors- Capable of Electro Therapy for 2 people simultaneously- Power Frequency Output up to 1000KHZ- All Countries DC Switching mode Power Supply Adapter (US110v - 230/240/250v)- Idle Mode: Default Mode , Rife Digital waits for your instructions- Program Mode:http://www.rifedigital.com/php2/rifedigital.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011  Hi Anne, I need to clarify one small point in my previous post, and add one more. I wrote towards the end: "The later #4 machine frequencies were all below 1 Mhz." But I should have said: "The later #4 machine bacterial frequencies were all below 1 Mhz." Finally, the comments about frequency ranges apply also to plasma devices. Char __________ Hi Anne, In replying to your questions, I will try to make this as non-technical as possible, while still attempting to explain some things and give a few references. One thing to consider about a pad device. No matter what the top output capability might be for any one device, it will be adjusted by the user to his or her own comfort level as regards what level of current can be tolerated. For instance, the average painful threshold for men (but voluntary muscle control is still possible) is at 60 Hz about 9 mA (milliamps), and for women is 6 mA. This can vary with age, skin conductivity, thickness of the fat layer, etc. [snip] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Thank you Char! I appreciate the explanation and I didn't even ask the question! > > > > Subject: Rife Generator > To: Rife > Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 9:33 PM > Has anyone come across the 'Rife Digital 2011' generator? > It is advertised for under $500 and comes with hand and foot straps. > I was wanting to know if anyone on the forum has heard of this and if they think it is likely to effective compared to say GB4000? > Any suggestions or discussion appreciated. > > Specification is stated as > - 24Mhz Core Quartz Crystal > - 24Mhz Crystal Arbitrary Square waveform > - The Advanced 'Rife Digital' Rife Machine > - Suits Home, Doctor or Natural Therapist Clinical use > - 3500 Disease Frequency book included with thousands of frequencies for diseases including Cancer, Lymes Disease > - 1 Million Hertz frequencies available > - Programmable from 0000.01Khz to 1 Million Hertz > - 10 Program selections > - Lab Tested Pure Square Waveform on all Rife frequencies > - Harmonic Waveform periodic on 100% of Frequencies > - Uninterrupted Program Sequences > - Automatic Timer function plus manual over-ride. > - Power Adapter Rating: 1 AMP- Megahertz Power Port Outlet (Quad Port) > - Quad Wrist-strap Connectors > - Capable of Electro Therapy for 2 people simultaneously > - Power Frequency Output up to 1000KHZ > - All Countries DC Switching mode Power Supply Adapter (US110v - 230/240/250v) > - Idle Mode: Default Mode , Rife Digital waits for your instructions > - Program Mode: > > http://www.rifedigital.com/php2/rifedigital.php > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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