Re: more stiffness at 2.0mg from irmats

Lecithin (Nervous, Circulatory) is a fatlike substance called a phospholipid. It is produced daily by the liver if the diet is adequate. It is needed by every cell in the body and is a key building block of cell membranes; without it, they would harden. Lecithin protects cells from oxidation and largely comprises the protective sheaths surrounding the brain. It is composed mostly of B vitamins, phosphoric acid, choline, linoleic acid and inositol. Although it is a fatty substance, it is also a fat emulsifier. Hence, it supports the circulatory system.

I already take

1000mg of fishoil - Omega 3

500mg of flaxseed oil - Omega 3 - Hmm maybe too much Omega

1 big multivitamin from Costco

1 baclofen breakfast, lunch, evening (this may stop) - not sure of its anti spasticity ability

1000mg of Magnesium from oxide - UhOh - oxide

(I need to replace it with 2:1 Calcium/Magnesium non oxide) - Bones & Brains

Magnesium also helps regulate nerve cell function. It must be present in adequate amounts in the synaptic gap between nerve cells to control the rate of neuron firing. (3) When synaptic magnesium levels are too low, nerves fire too easily from even minor stimuli. For example, noises will sound excessively loud, lights will seem too bright, emotional reactions will be exaggerated, and the brain will be too stimulated to sleep. In extreme magnesium-synaptic deficiency, epilepsy--a sort of whole-brain shotgun-blast excessive neuronal firing--may result.

3mg of LDN, mine is in liquid suspension until next month.

and I havn'ts stopped taking Copaxone, at least not yet.

And I will probably add CA AEP soon

Of course I am considering some other items as well, but one step/expense at a time.

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April 10, 2005

Althea,

I love wishful thinking!

It leads to happiness, a lightened mood, creativity, silliness, is great for interacting with my 19mo old son, and drives my wife a little nuts.

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April 10, 2005

Hi ,

I was wondering about the same thing in regards to when is it too much omega. also takes fish oil and flax seed. One nice thing we have been changing is that he is now adding flax seed crushed to cereal or the oil to our salad. The less capsules the better. In fact it would be great if we could get some sort of vitamin formula set up for an MS diet and have less separate pills to take.

Aletha

Re: [low dose naltrexone] more stiffness at 2.0mg from irmats

Thanks ,

Wow 700mg Milk Thistle.

As of today, Sunday, I have added

Silymarin Milk Thistle Extract - for spasticity

2 capsules of 150mg in the morning and 2 at night = 600mg

Lecithin

1 soft gel 1200mg

Lecithin (Nervous, Circulatory) is a fatlike substance called a phospholipid. It is produced daily by the liver if the diet is adequate. It is needed by every cell in the body and is a key building block of cell membranes; without it, they would harden. Lecithin protects cells from oxidation and largely comprises the protective sheaths surrounding the brain. It is composed mostly of B vitamins, phosphoric acid, choline, linoleic acid and inositol. Although it is a fatty substance, it is also a fat emulsifier. Hence, it supports the circulatory system.

I already take

1000mg of fishoil - Omega 3

500mg of flaxseed oil - Omega 3 - Hmm maybe too much Omega

1 big multivitamin from Costco

1 baclofen breakfast, lunch, evening (this may stop) - not sure of its anti spasticity ability

1000mg of Magnesium from oxide - UhOh - oxide

(I need to replace it with 2:1 Calcium/Magnesium non oxide) - Bones & Brains

Magnesium also helps regulate nerve cell function. It must be present in adequate amounts in the synaptic gap between nerve cells to control the rate of neuron firing. (3) When synaptic magnesium levels are too low, nerves fire too easily from even minor stimuli. For example, noises will sound excessively loud, lights will seem too bright, emotional reactions will be exaggerated, and the brain will be too stimulated to sleep. In extreme magnesium-synaptic deficiency, epilepsy--a sort of whole-brain shotgun-blast excessive neuronal firing--may result.

3mg of LDN, mine is in liquid suspension until next month.

and I havn'ts stopped taking Copaxone, at least not yet.

And I will probably add CA AEP soon

Of course I am considering some other items as well, but one step/expense at a time.

-

April 10, 2005

Kathy, what is the difference between basic magnesium tablets and magnesium oratate?

Rae

From: kathy lintzenich [mailto:mykittypaws@...] Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 2:43 PMlow dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] more stiffness at 2.0mg from irmats

I FOUND YOUR RESPONSE VERY INTERESTING ESPECIALLY THE MAGNESIUM BECAUSE THE RATIO IS USUALLY 2:1 WITH CALCIUM BUT WITH MS CONDITION MANY KNOWLEDGEABLE ALTERNATIVE PRACTITIONERS FEEL WE SHOULD TAKE EQUAL AMOUNTS. FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU TAKE 1500CALCIUM YOU SHOULD TAKE 1500 MAGNESIUM. COFFEE DEPLETES MAGNESIUM OUT OF THE BODY AND THAT IS MY ONE VICE. I NOTICE LOUD VOICES BOTHER ME AND BRIGHT LIGHTS SO I AM GOING TO INCREASE MY DOSE OF MAGNESIUM OROTATE. THE INFO ABOUT THE LECITHIN IS GREAT TOO BECAUSE IT EATS UP SATURATED FAT WHICH HAS BEEN SHOWN TO CAUSE THE BAD TYPE OF PROSTAGLANDINS TO COME OUT AND CREATE THE INFLAMMATORY MYELIN DESTROYING RESPONSE. THANKS FOR THE MESSAGE.

Re: [low dose naltrexone] more stiffness at 2.0mg from irmats

Thanks ,

Wow 700mg Milk Thistle.

As of today, Sunday, I have added

Silymarin Milk Thistle Extract - for spasticity

2 capsules of 150mg in the morning and 2 at night = 600mg

Lecithin

1 soft gel 1200mg

Lecithin (Nervous, Circulatory) is a fatlike substance called a phospholipid. It is produced daily by the liver if the diet is adequate. It is needed by every cell in the body and is a key building block of cell membranes; without it, they would harden. Lecithin protects cells from oxidation and largely comprises the protective sheaths surrounding the brain. It is composed mostly of B vitamins, phosphoric acid, choline, linoleic acid and inositol. Although it is a fatty substance, it is also a fat emulsifier. Hence, it supports the circulatory system.

I already take

1000mg of fishoil - Omega 3

500mg of flaxseed oil - Omega 3 - Hmm maybe too much Omega

1 big multivitamin from Costco

1 baclofen breakfast, lunch, evening (this may stop) - not sure of its anti spasticity ability

1000mg of Magnesium from oxide - UhOh - oxide

(I need to replace it with 2:1 Calcium/Magnesium non oxide) - Bones & Brains

Magnesium also helps regulate nerve cell function. It must be present in adequate amounts in the synaptic gap between nerve cells to control the rate of neuron firing. (3) When synaptic magnesium levels are too low, nerves fire too easily from even minor stimuli. For example, noises will sound excessively loud, lights will seem too bright, emotional reactions will be exaggerated, and the brain will be too stimulated to sleep. In extreme magnesium-synaptic deficiency, epilepsy--a sort of whole-brain shotgun-blast excessive neuronal firing--may result.

3mg of LDN, mine is in liquid suspension until next month.

and I havn'ts stopped taking Copaxone, at least not yet.

And I will probably add CA AEP soon

Of course I am considering some other items as well, but one step/expense at a time.

-

April 10, 2005

Hi ,

I thought about that to. You are right of course. We all react differently, and some of us do not need to much of one item while someone else needs more of it. And then there is the thought of chemical reactions with some items not working well with others.

I was just wishful thinking.

My best

Aletha

Re: [low dose naltrexone] more stiffness at 2.0mg from irmats

Althea,

I think an actual recommended list of vitamins would be helpful, but each person has seperate needs and responses to the chemicals known as foods and vitamins.

The silly thing is that I personally don't fully trust in other people's lists. I also know that to mix a special MS cocktail would cause all kinds of chemical combinations and break downs of vitamins etc. which are best stored seperate until swallowed.

However I take other peoples advice seriously.

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In a message dated 4/10/05 2:08:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Aletha@... writes:

Hi ,

I was wondering about the same thing in regards to when is it too much omega. also takes fish oil and flax seed. One nice thing we have been changing is that he is now adding flax seed crushed to cereal or the oil to our salad. The less capsules the better. In fact it would be great if we could get some sort of vitamin formula set up for an MS diet and have less separate pills to take.

Aletha

April 10, 2005

Orotates penetrate very easily into the cell membrane. Magnesium oratate reduces cholesterol, high blood pressure, protects the kidneys and the biggest thing for us is the protection of the oligodendrocytes. The cells that make up the myelin. There is more but I can't remember. If you look up the papers on Hans Neiper it will tell you the whole story behind the mineral transporters.

Re: [low dose naltrexone] more stiffness at 2.0mg from irmats

Thanks ,

Wow 700mg Milk Thistle.

As of today, Sunday, I have added

Silymarin Milk Thistle Extract - for spasticity

2 capsules of 150mg in the morning and 2 at night = 600mg

Lecithin

1 soft gel 1200mg

Lecithin (Nervous, Circulatory) is a fatlike substance called a phospholipid. It is produced daily by the liver if the diet is adequate. It is needed by every cell in the body and is a key building block of cell membranes; without it, they would harden. Lecithin protects cells from oxidation and largely comprises the protective sheaths surrounding the brain. It is composed mostly of B vitamins, phosphoric acid, choline, linoleic acid and inositol. Although it is a fatty substance, it is also a fat emulsifier. Hence, it supports the circulatory system.

I already take

1000mg of fishoil - Omega 3

500mg of flaxseed oil - Omega 3 - Hmm maybe too much Omega

1 big multivitamin from Costco

1 baclofen breakfast, lunch, evening (this may stop) - not sure of its anti spasticity ability

1000mg of Magnesium from oxide - UhOh - oxide

(I need to replace it with 2:1 Calcium/Magnesium non oxide) - Bones & Brains

Magnesium also helps regulate nerve cell function. It must be present in adequate amounts in the synaptic gap between nerve cells to control the rate of neuron firing. (3) When synaptic magnesium levels are too low, nerves fire too easily from even minor stimuli. For example, noises will sound excessively loud, lights will seem too bright, emotional reactions will be exaggerated, and the brain will be too stimulated to sleep. In extreme magnesium-synaptic deficiency, epilepsy--a sort of whole-brain shotgun-blast excessive neuronal firing--may result.

3mg of LDN, mine is in liquid suspension until next month.

and I havn'ts stopped taking Copaxone, at least not yet.

And I will probably add CA AEP soon