RE: GETTING PAST RELIGION IN THE RAW MILK WAR

[Guest guest]

Thank you for posting a link to this

article. I found it excellent. I am now reading from an article

cited in a link by one of the commenters. http://www.foodpoisonjournal.com/uploads/file/Comparing%20Food%20Safety%20Record_Revised%281%29%281%29.pdf

It seems very interesting also. I am going to be taking some time

to explore this.

As a small producer of goat milk in

Idaho I look forward to our proposed regulations for producing raw milk for

human consumption sales legally BECAUSE the state is going to be coming around

and testing finished product for Bacteria. Coliform, SCC and Residues.

A gain Thank you for posting this.

Naomi

" Few people are capable of

expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their

social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such

opinions. "

..... Albert Einstein

From: RawDairy [mailto:RawDairy ] On Behalf Of dewittlinger

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009

6:57 AM

To: RawDairy

Subject: GETTING PAST

" RELIGION " IN THE RAW MILK WAR

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2009/12/getting-past-religion-in-the-raw-milk-war/

By Gumpert " Religion is never a good subject for debate. "

Could ignoring REAL UNPASTURIZED religion be a major problem?

In that day CURDS [raw dairy?] and honey [raw?] will be consumed by those left

in the land but will it come with a USDA label of approvable?

Isa. ch.7 NKJV Don

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[Guest guest]

While many would applaud this. It makes me want to cry. The costs for a STATE INSPECTOR to travel around and take samples can quickly become overwhelming for a small operation. While many areas have done this at the beginning at a reasonable rate in order to not have a outcry it never lasts for long. It also opens one up to forced animal registrations, manditory vaccination and a host of other additions that come along later.It is much like the State legalizing cow shares ploy. By default people are setting a legal precedent saying the private ownership of animals for personal food production is illegal. Piece by piece the constitution is being dismantled.In the end I am saying;"Be careful of the long term ramifications of seemingly harmless gains."Kurtis As a small producer of goat milk in Idaho I look forward to our proposed regulations for producing raw milk for human consumption sales legally BECAUSE the state is going to be coming around and testing finished product for Bacteria. Coliform, SCC and Residues. Naomi "Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions." ..... Albert Einstein From: RawDairy [mailto:RawDairy ] On Behalf Of dewittlinger Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 6:57 AM To: RawDairy Subject: GETTING PAST "RELIGION" IN THE RAW MILK WAR http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2009/12/getting-past-religion-in-the-raw-milk-war/ By Gumpert "Religion is never a good subject for debate." Could ignoring REAL UNPASTURIZED religion be a major problem? In that day CURDS [raw dairy?] and honey [raw?] will be consumed by those left in the land but will it come with a USDA label of approvable? Isa. ch.7 NKJV Don __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4731 (20091231) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.Kurtis Stavenwww.wildthingorganics.com

[Guest guest]

Kurt.. I expect you are unaware that the

state of Idaho

assesses the testing to the producers on the basis of pounds of milk

produced. As a small producer I estimated my cost at $2.70 a year.

The big dairies are definitely subsidizing the little ones. I think

it is good for the public and good for the producer to meet cleanliness standards.

The head of the dairy division also explained to the goat group that state

inspection is significant in protecting the producer legally.

Naomi

" Few people are capable of expressing

with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social

environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such

opinions. "

..... Albert Einstein

From: RawDairy [mailto:RawDairy ] On Behalf Of Kurtis Staven

Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010

12:00 AM

To: RawDairy

Subject: Re: GETTING

PAST " RELIGION " IN THE RAW MILK WAR

While

many would applaud this. It makes me want to cry. The costs for a STATE

INSPECTOR to travel around and take samples can quickly become overwhelming for

a small operation. While many areas have done this at the beginning at a

reasonable rate in order to not have a outcry it never lasts for long. It also

opens one up to forced animal registrations, manditory vaccination and a host

of other additions that come along later.

It is much like the State legalizing cow shares ploy. By default

people are setting a legal precedent saying the private ownership of animals

for personal food production is illegal. Piece by piece the constitution is

being dismantled.

In the end I am saying; " Be careful of the long term ramifications

of seemingly harmless gains. "

Kurtis

As a small producer of goat milk in Idaho I look forward to our

proposed regulations for producing raw milk for human consumption sales legally

BECAUSE the state is going to be coming around and testing finished product for

Bacteria. Coliform, SCC and Residues.

Naomi

" Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions

which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people

are even incapable of forming such opinions. "

..... Albert Einstein

From: RawDairy

[mailto:RawDairy ]

On Behalf Of dewittlinger

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009

6:57 AM

To: RawDairy

Subject: GETTING PAST

" RELIGION " IN THE RAW MILK WAR

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2009/12/getting-past-religion-in-the-raw-milk-war/

By Gumpert " Religion is never a good subject for debate. "

Could ignoring REAL UNPASTURIZED religion be a major problem?

In that day CURDS [raw dairy?] and honey [raw?] will be consumed by those left

in the land but will it come with a USDA label of approvable?

Isa. ch.7 NKJV Don

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Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for

lunch. Liberty is

a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

Kurtis Staven

www.wildthingorganics.com

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