Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 From our experience (my husband is hypoglycemic) and he finds that with well mineralized goats, drinking RAW goat milk helps his problems that he has . He does not get shakey if he eats a wholefoods and raw dairy diet. Raw Cow milk does not do as good a job as goats milk does . We have had both. Rhonda MILK and Blood Sugar I was told recently by a whole food activist that if you have hypoglycemic tendencies or prediabetes that you may even have to eliminate milk...even if its raw milk. Does anyone have any experience or thoughts on this subject? Does the milkfat in whole raw milk modulate the absorption of the milk sugar so as to make it not stressful on the hypoglycemic person's system? Margie T www.lymesentinel.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 I have hypoglycemic tendencies and I think that if the milk is very fatty ( raw cow or goat) you should be ok. You can also mix raw cream with it. Self experimentation seems to be the best way to figure this stuff out, so that's what I do! One thing I've discovered, even with something like oatmeal, with a high glycemic index, that if I soak it for 24 hrs AND add lots of butter (like around 2 tbsp per bowl) and milk, that I don't get shaky after. If I dare eat just soaked and cooked oatmeal without any fat added I'm a mess within 15 minutes after eating it. I recommend not listening to most food activists and nutritionists when it comes to dairy because there is such a strong prejudice against it. Best to keep an open mind and find out what works for you and your family. I have a friend that one day decided that she doesn't have any of the food intolerances/allergies she thought she had (being a enthusiastic health food person, she assumed all the usual suspects (dairy, wheat, nightshades) were bothering her). After that, she was able to eat everything and be just fine. There are true food intolerances, but oftentimes it's just balance that we need. To your health.Rebekah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 This is interesting, maybe it has been the fat thing that has helped my hypoglycemia. Our goats had high butter fat 5-7%, they had a soy/corn free diet and I did real well. Now since we have moved we have a cow with low butterfat.........a production bred jersey ( a Holstein in a little brown package) a wonderful cow, but no butterfat. her milk just does not cut it. My blood sugar is not stable like it was. Also with the goats my wife would make completely raw ice-cream, just raw cream raw eggs and half raw sugar that was called for. I could work for hours on that. I would get incredibly hunger, but no headaches, shakiness, or weakness. We also ate a lot of whole milk raw aged cheese and real sourdough bread. with lots of raw fruit and veggies. We also ate a lot of keifer fruit smoothies and real whole milk yogurt. For the last 1.5 years we have been away from our wholefood raw dairy diet and I have had a lot of long hrs on the road with poor food, and my health is suffering! We are now on our farm and I am hoping to get my health back It has been difficult to locate and get the real food we were used to as we where moving. Now we hope to be able to get back to that! It is a challenge to break away from the normal and get back to the real diet, but it is worth the trouble. Matt Shaul Re: MILK and Blood Sugar I have hypoglycemic tendencies and I think that if the milk is very fatty ( raw cow or goat) you should be ok. You can also mix raw cream with it. Self experimentation seems to be the best way to figure this stuff out, so that's what I do! One thing I've discovered, even with something like oatmeal, with a high glycemic index, that if I soak it for 24 hrs AND add lots of butter (like around 2 tbsp per bowl) and milk, that I don't get shaky after. If I dare eat just soaked and cooked oatmeal without any fat added I'm a mess within 15 minutes after eating it. I recommend not listening to most food activists and nutritionists when it comes to dairy because there is such a strong prejudice against it. Best to keep an open mind and find out what works for you and your family. I have a friend that one day decided that she doesn't have any of the food intolerances/allergies she thought she had (being a enthusiastic health food person, she assumed all the usual suspects (dairy, wheat, nightshades) were bothering her). After that, she was able to eat everything and be just fine. There are true food intolerances, but oftentimes it's just balance that we need.To your health.Rebekah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 I am a hypoglycemic and thrive on raw dairy. Take it away and I have insulin spikes. So from my personal experience I would argue this point of view. I was told recently by a whole food activist that if you have hypoglycemic tendencies or prediabetes that you may even have to eliminate milk...even if its raw milk. Does anyone have any experience or thoughts on this subject? Does the milkfat in whole raw milk modulate the absorption of the milk sugar so as to make it not stressful on the hypoglycemic person's system? Margie T www.lymesentinel.blogspot.com Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.Kurtis Stavenwww.wildthingorganics.ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 The milk I have access to is called full cream I think. They do feed their cows some grain. It seems to sit ok with me...especially when I make kefir. That's also very interesting about the oatmeal. I have just started cooking steel cut oats in my crockpot overnight. Is that just as good as soaking it and then cooking it? I use butter and salt & pepper on it. I tend to like it savory more than sweet anyway. Thankyou Rebekah for your thoughtful response Marjorie Tietjen www.LymeSentinel.blogspot.com HERBS FOR LYME and GENERAL HEALTH http://www.1shoppingcart.com/app/?af=1097153 US Wellness Meats sells quality grassland meat products - Visit us Online! Subject: Re: MILK and Blood SugarTo: RawDairy Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 3:08 PM I have hypoglycemic tendencies and I think that if the milk is very fatty ( raw cow or goat) you should be ok. You can also mix raw cream with it. Self experimentation seems to be the best way to figure this stuff out, so that's what I do! One thing I've discovered, even with something like oatmeal, with a high glycemic index, that if I soak it for 24 hrs AND add lots of butter (like around 2 tbsp per bowl) and milk, that I don't get shaky after. If I dare eat just soaked and cooked oatmeal without any fat added I'm a mess within 15 minutes after eating it. I recommend not listening to most food activists and nutritionists when it comes to dairy because there is such a strong prejudice against it. Best to keep an open mind and find out what works for you and your family. I have a friend that one day decided that she doesn't have any of the food intolerances/ allergies she thought she had (being a enthusiastic health food person, she assumed all the usual suspects (dairy, wheat, nightshades) were bothering her). After that, she was able to eat everything and be just fine. There are true food intolerances, but oftentimes it's just balance that we need.To your health.Rebekah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Thanks Matt for sharing your experiences. Everyone has been so helpful. I have chronic Lyme disease but am coming to the conclusion that some people get chronic disease for a reason where other people who may also harbor the germ...do not get ill or do not remain ill. In my case I really am starting to think it has to do with blood sugar problems...which in turn affects the rest of your immunity. This probably isn't new news for any of you and it isn't new news to me ...really.....it's just that it is finally sinking in all the way...I guess due to more recent books I have been reading. I think that the fat in the milk must play a big role in our reactions to it. It certainly is interesting :-) Thankyou! Marjorie Tietjen www.LymeSentinel.blogspot.com Subject: Re: MILK and Blood SugarTo: RawDairy Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 4:01 PM This is interesting, maybe it has been the fat thing that has helped my hypoglycemia. Our goats had high butter fat 5-7%, they had a soy/corn free diet and I did real well. Now since we have moved we have a cow with low butterfat... ......a production bred jersey ( a Holstein in a little brown package) a wonderful cow, but no butterfat. her milk just does not cut it. My blood sugar is not stable like it was. Also with the goats my wife would make completely raw ice-cream, just raw cream raw eggs and half raw sugar that was called for. I could work for hours on that. I would get incredibly hunger, but no headaches, shakiness, or weakness. We also ate a lot of whole milk raw aged cheese and real sourdough bread. with lots of raw fruit and veggies. We also ate a lot of keifer fruit smoothies and real whole milk yogurt. For the last 1.5 years we have been away from our wholefood raw dairy diet and I have had a lot of long hrs on the road with poor food, and my health is suffering! We are now on our farm and I am hoping to get my health back It has been difficult to locate and get the real food we were used to as we where moving. Now we hope to be able to get back to that! It is a challenge to break away from the normal and get back to the real diet, but it is worth the trouble. Matt Shaul Re: MILK and Blood Sugar I have hypoglycemic tendencies and I think that if the milk is very fatty ( raw cow or goat) you should be ok. You can also mix raw cream with it. Self experimentation seems to be the best way to figure this stuff out, so that's what I do! One thing I've discovered, even with something like oatmeal, with a high glycemic index, that if I soak it for 24 hrs AND add lots of butter (like around 2 tbsp per bowl) and milk, that I don't get shaky after. If I dare eat just soaked and cooked oatmeal without any fat added I'm a mess within 15 minutes after eating it. I recommend not listening to most food activists and nutritionists when it comes to dairy because there is such a strong prejudice against it. Best to keep an open mind and find out what works for you and your family. I have a friend that one day decided that she doesn't have any of the food intolerances/ allergies she thought she had (being a enthusiastic health food person, she assumed all the usual suspects (dairy, wheat, nightshades) were bothering her). After that, she was able to eat everything and be just fine. There are true food intolerances, but oftentimes it's just balance that we need.To your health.Rebekah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Well...that's good to know because I really don't want to give up my raw milk! :-) Marjorie Tietjen www.LymeSentinel.blogspot.com Subject: Re: MILK and Blood SugarTo: RawDairy Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 2:02 AM I am a hypoglycemic and thrive on raw dairy. Take it away and I have insulin spikes. So from my personal experience I would argue this point of view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 do you cook this before eating it? > > I ferment various grains, including oats, in kefir usually at least overnight with a cloth over the top. After about 24 hours, I will cap up the container and refrigerate. > > If one does up enough, say a weeks supply with raisins or other dried fruit, some cinnamon, etc., it makes a very quick and satisfying breakfast to dish up, eat and run! > > Joyce S. > > > > > There is ALWAYS a " BETTER WAY " ! WE can find & make ITa " Cradle for Humanity " ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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