Guest guest Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Hi Furthering this question: I am planning to do continuous brewing. I will be traveling and where I will brew taking a big 5 gallons glass container is near impossible. I will like to know if I can use Plastic. I understand KT has acids and they can leach but ... Have there been studies that would document such phenomenon or is it our (admittedly rational) paranoia of things plastic and man-made (which by the way Glass is)? Never brewed in plastic but would like the opinion of those who have... Completely OT . What's up Zoe? Long time no Hear ...!? I knowyou are doing weel and will prevail. May God bless you and speed your recovery. Frantz ________________________________ To: original_kombucha Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 9:57 AM Subject: plastic bottles/jugs? Â Hi! A quick question...can I decant into food grade plastic (#1) and store in fridge? Since the fermentation basically stops when refrigerated, and the plastic is made for ingested food/liquid, wouldn't that be safe? Thx! dof8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Hi Furthering this question: I am planning to do continuous brewing. I will be traveling and where I will brew taking a big 5 gallons glass container is near impossible. I will like to know if I can use Plastic. I understand KT has acids and they can leach but ... Have there been studies that would document such phenomenon or is it our (admittedly rational) paranoia of things plastic and man-made (which by the way Glass is)? Never brewed in plastic but would like the opinion of those who have... Completely OT . What's up Zoe? Long time no Hear ...!? I knowyou are doing weel and will prevail. May God bless you and speed your recovery. Frantz ________________________________ To: original_kombucha Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 9:57 AM Subject: plastic bottles/jugs? Â Hi! A quick question...can I decant into food grade plastic (#1) and store in fridge? Since the fermentation basically stops when refrigerated, and the plastic is made for ingested food/liquid, wouldn't that be safe? Thx! dof8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 I do not store my kombucha in plastic at all. Kombucha is very acidic, and I fear that plastic would leach into it. Maybe if you drink the kombucha immediately, it would be ok to store it in the refrigerator in plastic. Some people reuse commercial kombucha containers. Not me. I store mine in half-gallon cider jugs in the refrigerator. I buy them at a homebrew supply store. If the container is good for beer or champagne, it is good for kombucha. Personally, I don't like to bother with lots of small bottles. Too much washing! Cheers, Olivia > > Hi! > > A quick question...can I decant into food grade plastic (#1) and store in fridge? Since the fermentation basically stops when refrigerated, and the plastic is made for ingested food/liquid, wouldn't that be safe? > > Thx! > dof8 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 I do not store my kombucha in plastic at all. Kombucha is very acidic, and I fear that plastic would leach into it. Maybe if you drink the kombucha immediately, it would be ok to store it in the refrigerator in plastic. Some people reuse commercial kombucha containers. Not me. I store mine in half-gallon cider jugs in the refrigerator. I buy them at a homebrew supply store. If the container is good for beer or champagne, it is good for kombucha. Personally, I don't like to bother with lots of small bottles. Too much washing! Cheers, Olivia > > Hi! > > A quick question...can I decant into food grade plastic (#1) and store in fridge? Since the fermentation basically stops when refrigerated, and the plastic is made for ingested food/liquid, wouldn't that be safe? > > Thx! > dof8 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 It sounds like you want to try brewing in one of those large, collapsible water bladders. Interesting idea. Maybe you could contact the manufacturer to find out its ph tolerance. Can this plastic store vinegar for long periods of time, that would be the question. You may need to find a plastics chemist to find an answer to your question. Ultimately, you may need to weigh the benefits of access to kombucha against the probability of consuming small amounts of plastic. Having travelled in the tropics, I can sure see the benefits of having thirst-quenching kombucha around! And having suffered La Turista, I can sure see the benefits of having the probiotics daily! Nevertheless, I travel with commercial probiotic pills and drink the local beer and sodas. Good luck with this endeavor! Olivia > > Hi > > Furthering this question: I am planning to do continuous brewing. I will be traveling and where I will brew taking a big 5 gallons glass container is near impossible. I will like to know if I can use Plastic. I understand KT has acids and they can leach but ... Have there been studies that would document such phenomenon or is it our (admittedly rational) paranoia of things plastic and man-made (which by the way Glass is)? Never brewed in plastic but would like the opinion of those who have... > > > Completely OT . What's up Zoe? Long time no Hear ...!? I knowyou are doing weel and will prevail. May God bless you and speed your recovery. > > Frantz > > > > ________________________________ > > To: original_kombucha > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 9:57 AM > Subject: plastic bottles/jugs? > > > Â > Hi! > > A quick question...can I decant into food grade plastic (#1) and store in fridge? Since the fermentation basically stops when refrigerated, and the plastic is made for ingested food/liquid, wouldn't that be safe? > > Thx! > dof8 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 It sounds like you want to try brewing in one of those large, collapsible water bladders. Interesting idea. Maybe you could contact the manufacturer to find out its ph tolerance. Can this plastic store vinegar for long periods of time, that would be the question. You may need to find a plastics chemist to find an answer to your question. Ultimately, you may need to weigh the benefits of access to kombucha against the probability of consuming small amounts of plastic. Having travelled in the tropics, I can sure see the benefits of having thirst-quenching kombucha around! And having suffered La Turista, I can sure see the benefits of having the probiotics daily! Nevertheless, I travel with commercial probiotic pills and drink the local beer and sodas. Good luck with this endeavor! Olivia > > Hi > > Furthering this question: I am planning to do continuous brewing. I will be traveling and where I will brew taking a big 5 gallons glass container is near impossible. I will like to know if I can use Plastic. I understand KT has acids and they can leach but ... Have there been studies that would document such phenomenon or is it our (admittedly rational) paranoia of things plastic and man-made (which by the way Glass is)? Never brewed in plastic but would like the opinion of those who have... > > > Completely OT . What's up Zoe? Long time no Hear ...!? I knowyou are doing weel and will prevail. May God bless you and speed your recovery. > > Frantz > > > > ________________________________ > > To: original_kombucha > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 9:57 AM > Subject: plastic bottles/jugs? > > > Â > Hi! > > A quick question...can I decant into food grade plastic (#1) and store in fridge? Since the fermentation basically stops when refrigerated, and the plastic is made for ingested food/liquid, wouldn't that be safe? > > Thx! > dof8 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Some will say you should only use glass, but I have always decanted into plastic soda bottles. One advantage is that you don't have to worry about pressure building up and bursting the glass bottle. Of course, if you immediately store in the fridge that shouldn't be a problem. in Texas > > Hi! > > A quick question...can I decant into food grade plastic (#1) and store in fridge? Since the fermentation basically stops when refrigerated, and the plastic is made for ingested food/liquid, wouldn't that be safe? > > Thx! > dof8 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Some will say you should only use glass, but I have always decanted into plastic soda bottles. One advantage is that you don't have to worry about pressure building up and bursting the glass bottle. Of course, if you immediately store in the fridge that shouldn't be a problem. in Texas > > Hi! > > A quick question...can I decant into food grade plastic (#1) and store in fridge? Since the fermentation basically stops when refrigerated, and the plastic is made for ingested food/liquid, wouldn't that be safe? > > Thx! > dof8 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 I generally go straight from brewer to fridge. I read somewhere that if you refrigerate the SCOBY it goes dormant. If the SCOBY does that, how would the bottled cold tea itself continue to ferment in the fridge? Isn't that the purpose of the second fermentation (bottling and leaving out for 1-3 days)? It's my understanding that chilling the tea when it is to your taste is what stops it from fermenting further and changing the flavor. Please correct me if I'm wrong. For this topic, I'm really referring to KT's high acidic level after decanting and refrigerating, and whether that causes plastic (#1 or #2) to leech chemicals into the tea - not at all about fermenting in plastic. I brew in a porcelain brewer, but would like to know if I can safely decant into plastic for straight-away storage in the fridge. Sorry for any confusion caused. --dof8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Hi Franz, When I used to sell my own Kombucha Manna tea in local health food stores, I called every bottle manufacturer I could find and asked about using plastic instead of glass, plastic being a lot easier to transport, a lot cheaper, and a lot less breakable. However, not one of the bottle manufacturers would say that Kombucha would not leach plastic from their bottles with the exception of special lab plastic made to contain acids....very expensive. I also note that the last products to be put into plastic bottles in the stores were acidic foods such as Catsup, grape juice and vinegar. Now those too are often found in plastic so it is hard to know for sure whether or not they are leaching chemicals into the food. There is a file in the list FILES section about plastic as an endocrine disruptor. There has been a lot written about that online as well. For long term use I would definitely not use plastic. However, if it is either use plastic or do without KT I would consider using plastic for short term use only. For those who plan to travel and can't take KT with them, I recommend taking our Organic Kombucha Manna Drops along. They are very portable and convenient. Peace, Love and Harmony, Bev > > Hi > > Furthering this question: I am planning to do continuous brewing. I will be traveling and where I will brew taking a big 5 gallons glass container is near impossible. I will like to know if I can use Plastic. I understand KT has acids and they can leach but ... Have there been studies that would document such phenomenon or is it our (admittedly rational) paranoia of things plastic and man-made (which by the way Glass is)? Never brewed in plastic but would like the opinion of those who have... > > > Completely OT . What's up Zoe? Long time no Hear ...!? I knowyou are doing weel and will prevail. May God bless you and speed your recovery. > > Frantz > > > > ________________________________ > > To: original_kombucha > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 9:57 AM > Subject: plastic bottles/jugs? > > > Â > Hi! > > A quick question...can I decant into food grade plastic (#1) and store in fridge? Since the fermentation basically stops when refrigerated, and the plastic is made for ingested food/liquid, wouldn't that be safe? > > Thx! > dof8 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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