Re: Glutamine

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Its good stuff and helps heal the gut but can cause hyper in some children, start slow and work up

Mandi x

Hi all,My Ds Homeopath has recommended we use Glutamine powder(amino acid)by Higher Nature,to aid with gut healing. I havent heard this supplement mentioned on here and I seem to remember reading somewhere that this is not good for our children. Could anyone clarify whether this is beneficial? Has anyone used it? Thanks for any help. Sue

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Thanks Mandi.

Suex

Subject: Re: Glutamine

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe

Date: Thursday, 3 March, 2011, 11:14

 

Its good stuff and helps heal the gut but can cause hyper in some children,

start slow and work up

 

Mandi x

 

In a message dated 03/03/2011 09:31:32 GMT Standard Time,

swerenowski@... writes:

 

Hi all,

My Ds Homeopath has recommended we use Glutamine powder(amino

acid)by Higher Nature,to aid with gut healing. I havent heard this supplement

mentioned on here and I seem to remember reading somewhere that this is not

good for our children. Could anyone clarify whether this is beneficial? Has

anyone used it? Thanks for any help. Sue

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Glutamine was great for gut healing but dreadful for behaviours with my boy, stuck with it long enough to see better BM's but it is an excitotoxin so watch out!

Vicky

Re: Glutamine

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe

Date: Thursday, 3 March, 2011, 11:14

Its good stuff and helps heal the gut but can cause hyper in some children,

start slow and work up

Mandi x

In a message dated 03/03/2011 09:31:32 GMT Standard Time,

swerenowski@... writes:

Hi all,

My Ds Homeopath has recommended we use Glutamine powder(amino

acid)by Higher Nature,to aid with gut healing. I havent heard this supplement

mentioned on here and I seem to remember reading somewhere that this is not

good for our children. Could anyone clarify whether this is beneficial? Has

anyone used it? Thanks for any help. Sue

[Guest guest]

Glutamine was great for gut healing but dreadful for behaviours with my boy, stuck with it long enough to see better BM's but it is an excitotoxin so watch out!

VickyDoes it cause anxiety or depression in your son? Im wondering if it is bothering me as I take one with each meal.-- is

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Definitely anxiety, agitated and very wakeful at night.

Vicky

Re: Glutamine

Glutamine was great for gut healing but dreadful for behaviours with my boy, stuck with it long enough to see better BM's but it is an excitotoxin so watch out!

Vicky

Does it cause anxiety or depression in your son? Im wondering if it is bothering me as I take one with each meal.

--

is

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Definitely anxiety, agitated and very wakeful at night.i thought the 5htp wasn't working! Ok will go off it for a week and

let you guys know. Thanks Vicky :-)im very hyper at night and generally anxious.-- is

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Hi Vicky,

Any chance you are confusing glutamine, a frequently beneficial amino acid and glutamate, a neurotransmitter which can be toxic in excess?

Patience

Subject: Re: GlutamineTo: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Date: Thursday, 3 March, 2011, 11:14 Its good stuff and helps heal the gut but can cause hyper in some children, start slow and work up Mandi x Hi all,My Ds Homeopath has recommended we use Glutamine powder(amino acid)by Higher Nature,to aid with gut healing. I havent heard this supplement mentioned on here and I seem to remember reading somewhere that this is not good for our children. Could anyone clarify whether this is beneficial? Has anyone used it? Thanks for any help. Sue

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No, ha, ha, only kidding Patience, no I do mean Glutamine, we had on it in the early days when he had the worst gut imaginable and as I said it did help his gut. L Glutamine helps repair the gut lining but converts to Glutamate which is an excitotoxin.

Vicky

Re: Glutamine

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe

Date: Thursday, 3 March, 2011, 11:14

Its good stuff and helps heal the gut but can cause hyper in some children,

start slow and work up

Mandi x

In a message dated 03/03/2011 09:31:32 GMT Standard Time,

swerenowski@... writes:

Hi all,

My Ds Homeopath has recommended we use Glutamine powder(amino

acid)by Higher Nature,to aid with gut healing. I havent heard this supplement

mentioned on here and I seem to remember reading somewhere that this is not

good for our children. Could anyone clarify whether this is beneficial? Has

anyone used it? Thanks for any help. Sue

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Gonna contradict you Vicky........ by my reckoning it's glutamate (or glutamic acid) that's converted to glutamine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutamate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutamine

Not quarelling with your experiences with and glutamine btw.

Patience

Subject: Re: GlutamineTo: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Date: Thursday, 3 March, 2011, 11:14 Its good stuff and helps heal the gut but can cause hyper in some children, start slow

and work up Mandi x Hi all,My Ds Homeopath has recommended we use Glutamine powder(amino acid)by Higher Nature,to aid with gut healing. I havent heard this supplement mentioned on here and I seem to remember reading somewhere that this is not good for our children. Could anyone clarify whether this is beneficial? Has anyone used it? Thanks for any help. Sue

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KenSubject: Re: GlutamineTo: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Date: Thursday, 3 March, 2011, 11:14 Its good stuff and helps heal the gut but can cause hyper in some

children, start slow

and work up Mandi x Hi all,My Ds Homeopath has recommended we use Glutamine powder(amino acid)by Higher Nature,to aid with gut healing. I havent heard this supplement mentioned on here and I seem to remember reading somewhere that this is not good for our children. Could anyone clarify whether this is beneficial? Has anyone used it? Thanks for any help. Sue

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Hi Vicky,

 

Any chance you are confusing glutamine, a frequently beneficial amino acid and glutamate, a neurotransmitter which can be toxic in excess?i am taking glutamine so thats an Ok supplement?

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It's not an OK supplement here is, great for the gut but my understanding is that it can convert to glutamate, it drives crazy with anxiety so unless I have dreamt all the previous info about L Glutamine and is having some kind of placebo affect in reverse then this kiddo will be staying clear.

I am not mistaking L Glutamine for Glutamate or anything else, this was much discussed a few years back, I didn't make it up all by myself, at the time the buzz was Yasko and excitotoxins and the question of L Glutamine came up many times.

For yourself though, it is rarely the case that an OK supplement actually exists for all, you may react to something quite differently to others, this happened many times with my boys, ie Milk Thistle is not OK here, Calcium is not OK here, in fact some things are worse than not OK.

These things happen just to make sure it is never nice and easy, sigh.

Vicky

Re: Glutamine

Hi Vicky,

Any chance you are confusing glutamine, a frequently beneficial amino acid and glutamate, a neurotransmitter which can be toxic in excess?

i am taking glutamine so thats an Ok supplement?

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is

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Thanks for your thoughts vicky.-- is

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Hi isBeen thinking of you with the recent conversations about fibromyalgia.. and links to thyroid problems.. Dr Lowe's article featured in Dr Mercola was very thought provoking.... definately made me think about my breathlessness and much lower energy levels... and things.

Hope you are well and gaining more and more each dayTracey

 

Thanks for your thoughts vicky.-- is

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I agree, the ALA is just as much a likely culprit, huge amounts given once per day always likely to be a problem in a toxic person but Nevin knows all this now

Mx

Nevin, do you think the ALA could have contributed to the seizures? Was it given just once a day? What makes you think it was the glutamic acid rather than the ALA which was the trigger?

Joanne

> >> > Hi all,> > My Ds Homeopath has recommended we use Glutamine powder(a mino acid)by Higher Nature,to aid with gut healing. I havent heard this supplement mentioned on here and I seem to remember reading somewhere that this is not good for our children. Could anyone clarify whether this is beneficial? Has anyone used it? Thanks for any help. Sue> >>

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Hello Sue,

Last year my son was given Pea Protein powder which contains high glutamic acid

(2000mg something) togerher with 100mg ALA.I Hewas on them a month then his

seizures started,the first time, he was 16 ...

So, I am very uncomfortable to use anything with glutamine, timid about amino

acids..This is our experience.It was the trigger for my son's seizures, that

what I believe..

nevin

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> Hi all,

> My Ds Homeopath has recommended we use Glutamine powder(amino acid)by Higher

Nature,to aid with gut healing. I havent heard this supplement mentioned on here

and I seem to remember reading somewhere that this is not good for our children.

Could anyone clarify whether this is beneficial? Has anyone used it? Thanks for

any help. Sue

>

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We used L'glutamine with Tatijana for a number of years... we really did not notice any improvements.. and at that time she was already having seizures.. and many grandmal  ones too.. It is supposed to assist with healing.. however I am always a little concerned about adding a single vit, min or amino... as these can create an imbalance.  I think that using better foods for her and improving her breathing did more to help her gut.

Tracey

 

Hello Sue,

Last year my son was given Pea Protein powder which contains high glutamic acid (2000mg something) togerher with 100mg ALA.I Hewas on them a month then his seizures started,the first time, he was 16 ...

So, I am very uncomfortable to use anything with glutamine, timid about amino acids..This is our experience.It was the trigger for my son's seizures, that what I believe..

nevin

>

> Hi all,

> My Ds Homeopath has recommended we use Glutamine powder(amino acid)by Higher Nature,to aid with gut healing. I havent heard this supplement mentioned on here and I seem to remember reading somewhere that this is not good for our children. Could anyone clarify whether this is beneficial? Has anyone used it? Thanks for any help. Sue

>

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The problem with that though Tracey is many kids have major problems with their digestion, inflammation, absorbency etc.

quite literally screamed in pain at meal times, he was starving but could not eat and anything that went in came straight out the other end! He may have been an extreme case in that he plummeted down the height and weight percentiles from 25th to 2nd but it was never a case of "better" foods alone, in his case he had such damage from overuse of antibiotics we had to start a road to gut healing that took 10yrs to get to him to the healthy 13yr old he now is. Glutamine was part of that road and it did help his gut, but we had to drop it just as soon as it was possible due to the effect it had on his brain, ultimately a decision had to be made based on the dreadful state of his health and needs must, bear in mind the doctors were totally unconcerned about a then 2yr old who was clearly malnourished, under weight, under height, no teeth, bald patches, bi-lateral black eyes, constant diahrea and 24/7 head banging and utter distress and misery because as they said "This is autism"!!!

I'm on a rant now, just shows this stuff is never buried in the past when your a mum.

Vicky

Re: Re: Glutamine

We used L'glutamine with Tatijana for a number of years... we really did not notice any improvements.. and at that time she was already having seizures.. and many grandmal ones too.. It is supposed to assist with healing.. however I am always a little concerned about adding a single vit, min or amino... as these can create an imbalance. I think that using better foods for her and improving her breathing did more to help her gut.

Tracey

Hello Sue,

Last year my son was given Pea Protein powder which contains high glutamic acid (2000mg something) togerher with 100mg ALA.I Hewas on them a month then his seizures started,the first time, he was 16 ...

So, I am very uncomfortable to use anything with glutamine, timid about amino acids..This is our experience.It was the trigger for my son's seizures, that what I believe..

nevin

>

> Hi all,

> My Ds Homeopath has recommended we use Glutamine powder(amino acid)by Higher Nature,to aid with gut healing. I havent heard this supplement mentioned on here and I seem to remember reading somewhere that this is not good for our children. Could anyone clarify whether this is beneficial? Has anyone used it? Thanks for any help. Sue

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hi nevin, my son who is 6 has seizures and the amino acids for me too made them worse.

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:01:34Subject: Re: Glutamine

Hello Sue,Last year my son was given Pea Protein powder which contains high glutamic acid (2000mg something) togerher with 100mg ALA.I Hewas on them a month then his seizures started,the first time, he was 16 ...So, I am very uncomfortable to use anything with glutamine, timid about amino acids..This is our experience.It was the trigger for my son's seizures, that what I believe..nevin>> Hi all,> My Ds Homeopath has recommended we use Glutamine powder(amino acid)by Higher Nature,to aid with gut healing. I havent heard this supplement mentioned on here and I seem to remember reading somewhere that this is not good for our children. Could anyone clarify whether this

is beneficial? Has anyone used it? Thanks for any help. Sue>

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Nevin, do you think the ALA could have contributed to the seizures? Was it given just once a day? What makes you think it was the glutamic acid rather than the ALA which was the trigger?Joanne> >> > Hi all,> > My Ds Homeopath has recommended we use Glutamine powder(amino acid)by Higher Nature,to aid with gut healing. I havent heard this supplement mentioned on here and I seem to remember reading somewhere that this is not good for our children. Could anyone clarify whether this is beneficial? Has anyone used it? Thanks for any help. Sue> >>

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Hi Joanne,

ALA was given to support liver and Gilbert sdyndrome and pea protein powder was

given to help my son to gain some weight.

Here is the link for the product:

http://www.revital.co.uk/Lamberts_Natural_Pea_Protein_Powder

ALL amino acids there and glutamic acid daily 3100mg..If someone is not

converting this perhaps gets more toxic, this is the case for my son.

Recently Dr Kees gave an amino asit supplements, three times a day,no glusamine

but on the second dose I gave him in 10 min.he had a seizure.It is a bit

coincidence perhaps but i am very reluctant to use it now.

The power of ALA, Mandi is right, I know it .Even the supplements may contribute

lots of unwanted sideeffects for a very sensitive possibly toxic child, like

mine.

Nevin

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> > > Hi all,

> > > My Ds Homeopath has recommended we use Glutamine powder(amino

> acid)by Higher Nature,to aid with gut healing. I havent heard this

> supplement mentioned on here and I seem to remember reading somewhere

> that this is not good for our children. Could anyone clarify whether

> this is beneficial? Has anyone used it? Thanks for any help. Sue

> > >

> >

>

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Hi Tahira,

I agree with you.But I don't understand why make him my son worst? In the past I

remember another amino acid supplements were given by DR from Breakspear.That

time he wasn't doing good either and I had to stop it.Unfortunately I couldn't

fully aware the second time and seizures started.The thir time different dr like

Dr Kees is highly recommending three times a day but I am not giving it.I am

trying to learn and increase his amino acids through foods now.

nevin

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> > Hi all,

> > My Ds Homeopath has recommended we use Glutamine powder(amino acid)by Higher

> >Nature,to aid with gut healing. I havent heard this supplement mentioned on

here

> >and I seem to remember reading somewhere that this is not good for our

children.

> >Could anyone clarify whether this is beneficial? Has anyone used it? Thanks

for

> >any help. Sue

> >

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Typically, dietary AA supplementation is used to correct an imbalance that may be due to lack or deficiency of an enzyme that results in a metabolic imbalance or to lower than essential levels of free amino acids for the construction of key compounds by the body's own metabolism. This is the metabolic mirror of PKU, where lack of PAH results in the build-up of phenylalanine.It is is why free AA profiling, and, ideally genetic screening for IeMs should be used to guide the need for supplementation or reduced intake of AAs rather than going on a 'suck it and see' it works for a lot of kids with ASD strategy - one size does not fit all.Hope this helps.Ken Subject: Re: GlutamineTo: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Date: Saturday, 5 March, 2011, 15:14

Hi Tahira,

I agree with you.But I don't understand why make him my son worst? In the past I remember another amino acid supplements were given by DR from Breakspear.That time he wasn't doing good either and I had to stop it.Unfortunately I couldn't fully aware the second time and seizures started.The thir time different dr like Dr Kees is highly recommending three times a day but I am not giving it.I am trying to learn and increase his amino acids through foods now.

nevin

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> > Hi all,

> > My Ds Homeopath has recommended we use Glutamine powder(amino acid)by Higher

> >Nature,to aid with gut healing. I havent heard this supplement mentioned on here

> >and I seem to remember reading somewhere that this is not good for our children.

> >Could anyone clarify whether this is beneficial? Has anyone used it? Thanks for

> >any help. Sue

> >

>

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Thanks Nevin, that's interesting. I can understand you being nervous about amino acid supplements for your son. I really hope you find a way of controlling his seizures.Best wishes, Joanne> > > >> > > > Hi all,> > > > My Ds Homeopath has recommended we use Glutamine powder(amino> > acid)by Higher Nature,to aid with gut healing. I havent heard this> > supplement mentioned on here and I seem to remember reading somewhere> > that this is not good for our children. Could anyone clarify whether> > this is beneficial? Has anyone used it? Thanks for any help. Sue> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Hello Sue,

Last year my son was given Pea Protein powder which contains high glutamic acid (2000mg something) together with 100mg ALA. He was on them a month then his seizures started,the first time, he was 16 ...

So, I am very uncomfortable to use anything with glutamine, timid about amino acids..This is our experience.It was the trigger for my son's seizures, that what I believe..

nevin100 mg of ALA sounds really high. Im on 25mg and im in my 30s.-- is