Good tasting goat's milk ~ Re: Re: milking sheep

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Wow Sharon- That was a big leap...

I was talking about feed quality not putting things in the milk - feed quality

does make a difference in milk flavor - ask anyone that has had milk where the

cow was grazing wild onions:o)

I didnt mean to make anyone defensive....and I pride myself that my goats

milk is better then cows milk - mild and sweet and creamy on the tongue.....I am

glad that your saanans milk is excellent - It just isnt my experience that most

sanaan milk is delicious...but lots of folks drink it and like it...Remember

this started with someone who obviously is sensitive to the " goaty flavor " . I

have two high end La Mancha goats from different good butterfat lines. I never

put their milk in the people milk. I can taste the difference...and of course

that difference can change daily with each animal. It isnt goaty but it isnt

luscious either....

Sanitation is first - remember I was the one that posted that I double filter

into sanitized containers and then ice water bath my milk....Keeping it really

cold is second....and for some of us breed does matter..

Just for clarity - My girls have pasture, no spray alfalfa, sprouted organic

barley with organic sunflower seeds/flaxseed on the stand(just a little), free

choice organic kelp, redmonds salt, copper sulfate and aluminum free baking

soda....

Please accept my appology for whatever I said that made you feel like your goats

and methods were on trial...

aliza

www.somekindawonderfulfarm.com

> And why would anyone purposely alter/gimick with the flavor of their milk ? 

If I knew my farmer was doing that I'd be out of there. If someone

is 'fudging' on the flavor of the milk

> where else is one being deceptive. A bit disappointed that you would mention

such

> a ' practice '. While your opinions are just that 'YOURS'  I wouldn't want

anyone 'reading' you to think this was a standard/or accepted practice . .

> Sorry clean milking procedure and quick chill DOES MATTER to those

> of us with conscientious safety standards in mind. . .some of us feed

children and the sick. And all of us should be partners in promoting GOOD,

QUALITY, SAFE RAW DAIRY !

>  

> Sharron Dougan

> Dougan Farm

> State Registered

> Member RMAC (Raw Milk Association of Colorado) 

>  

>

>

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Aliza

Sorry for the misunderstanding. No offense taken. . .guess I didn't read your connection

with feed quality correctly.

I firmly agree with your perspective. . .FEED DOES MATTER.

Field to field, feed can vary in nutritional content due to soil integrity. Think instead

of trying to identify Breed vs. Breed with flavor (though I think there is 'some' truth to it - on and idividual level/and location it can be misleading) The distinction to milk flavor can be FEED associated, goat individuality (genetics) and region/ even barn to barn. Us as goatkeepers are individuals too and as you express - we have our individual source of referrence - in 'our' experiences.

Soil differences across the country may contribute to ' flavor'. Similar to 'wine' - the 'same type' of grape from different vineyards in different soil locations will taste different on the palate -

Flavor is. . . . ' As you Like IT ' thank goodness there is a broad spectrum . . .

Enjoy the Day

sharron

Subject: Good tasting goat's milk ~ Re: Re: milking sheepTo: RawDairy Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 8:22 AM

Wow Sharon- That was a big leap...I was talking about feed quality not putting things in the milk - feed quality does make a difference in milk flavor - ask anyone that has had milk where the cow was grazing wild onions:o) I didnt mean to make anyone defensive....and I pride myself that my goats milk is better then cows milk - mild and sweet and creamy on the tongue.....I am glad that your saanans milk is excellent - It just isnt my experience that most sanaan milk is delicious...but lots of folks drink it and like it...Remember this started with someone who obviously is sensitive to the "goaty flavor". I have two high end La Mancha goats from different good butterfat lines. I never put their milk in the people milk. I can taste the difference...and of course that difference can change daily with each animal. It isnt goaty but it isnt luscious either....Sanitation is first - remember I was the one that posted that I double

filter into sanitized containers and then ice water bath my milk....Keeping it really cold is second....and for some of us breed does matter..Just for clarity - My girls have pasture, no spray alfalfa, sprouted organic barley with organic sunflower seeds/flaxseed on the stand(just a little), free choice organic kelp, redmonds salt, copper sulfate and aluminum free baking soda....Please accept my appology for whatever I said that made you feel like your goats and methods were on trial...alizawww.somekindawonderfulfarm.com> And why would anyone purposely alter/gimick with the flavor of their milk ? If I knew my farmer was doing that I'd be out of there. If someone is 'fudging' on the flavor of the milk> where else is one being deceptive. A bit disappointed that you would mention such> a ' practice '. While your opinions are just that 'YOURS' I wouldn't want

anyone 'reading' you to think this was a standard/or accepted practice . . > Sorry clean milking procedure and quick chill DOES MATTER to those> of us with conscientious safety standards in mind. . .some of us feed children and the sick. And all of us should be partners in promoting GOOD, QUALITY, SAFE RAW DAIRY !>  > Sharron Dougan> Dougan Farm> State Registered> Member RMAC (Raw Milk Association of Colorado) >  > >

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could not agree more. To put it all on breed is over simplifying things!

There are too many other variables in the mix that make a big difference!

Matt

Good tasting goat's milk ~ Re: Re: milking sheepTo: RawDairy Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 8:22 AM

Wow Sharon- That was a big leap...I was talking about feed quality not putting things in the milk - feed quality does make a difference in milk flavor - ask anyone that has had milk where the cow was grazing wild onions:o) I didnt mean to make anyone defensive....and I pride myself that my goats milk is better then cows milk - mild and sweet and creamy on the tongue.....I am glad that your saanans milk is excellent - It just isnt my experience that most sanaan milk is delicious...but lots of folks drink it and like it...Remember this started with someone who obviously is sensitive to the "goaty flavor". I have two high end La Mancha goats from different good butterfat lines. I never put their milk in the people milk. I can taste the difference...and of course that difference can change daily with each animal. It isnt goaty but it isnt luscious either....Sanitation is first - remember I was the one that posted that I double filter into sanitized containers and then ice water bath my milk....Keeping it really cold is second....and for some of us breed does matter..Just for clarity - My girls have pasture, no spray alfalfa, sprouted organic barley with organic sunflower seeds/flaxseed on the stand(just a little), free choice organic kelp, redmonds salt, copper sulfate and aluminum free baking soda....Please accept my appology for whatever I said that made you feel like your goats and methods were on trial...alizawww.somekindawonderfulfarm.com> And why would anyone purposely alter/gimick with the flavor of their milk ? If I knew my farmer was doing that I'd be out of there. If someone is 'fudging' on the flavor of the milk> where else is one being deceptive. A bit disappointed that you would mention such> a ' practice '. While your opinions are just that 'YOURS' I wouldn't want anyone 'reading' you to think this was a standard/or accepted practice . . > Sorry clean milking procedure and quick chill DOES MATTER to those> of us with conscientious safety standards in mind. . .some of us feed children and the sick. And all of us should be partners in promoting GOOD, QUALITY, SAFE RAW DAIRY !>  > Sharron Dougan> Dougan Farm> State Registered> Member RMAC (Raw Milk Association of Colorado) >  > >