RE: Re: Not By the Hair of My Chinny Chin Chin: Farmers Fight Hogicide in Michigan

[Guest guest]

I have noticed that Natural News, much like and Bill O'Reilly and many other so called mainstream news sources reports are nearer hyperbole than accurate news reporting. To digest their reports accurately requires that you examine their political agenda as much as their character and reputation. The days of Walter Cronkite are long past and a distant memory. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone powered by MobilicitySender: RawDairy Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:21:44 -0000To: <RawDairy >ReplyTo: RawDairy Subject: Re: Not By the Hair of My Chinny Chin Chin: Farmers Fight Hogicide in Michigan >> From D.> Moderator > > > http://lewrockwell.com/rep3/hogicide-in-michigan.html>Dear All,I am a heritage hog farmer and firm believer that someone from the government is lying if their lips are moving. Therefore, I was greatly alarmed by the articles like the one on Rockwell's page. After further examination, however, it appears that the original article - the one that started this all - from NaturalNews.com was overly inflammatory and borderline fear mongering.From the evidence available, apparently the Michigan legislation (though admittedly too broad) IS NOT aimed at, nor intended for small farmers raising heritage pigs for food.You can listen and read for yourselves herehttp://ipr.interlochen.org/ipr-news-features/episode/19381and herehttp://jasonfoscolo.com/?cat=104Best Wishes,

[Guest guest]

To evaluate the 'placatory' articles in the blogs below, we will need

to take them separately..

the interlochen version of reality ignores the fact that the discovery

part of the law cases filed against the state has already uncovered

the heavy hand of Michigan big farm organizations among the promoters.

SO CLEARLY THE POWER MOVING DNR IS THE BIG FARMS THAT DO NOT WANT THE

COMPETITION.

No one was fighting against the agreement by the legislators that pigs

outside their owner's farm fences were fair game for shooting by

whomever, based on the anticipated understanding of what the bill

would allow/cause.

However, the small farmers who raise these heritage hogs are being

cited and have chosen to strike at government in the courts, based on

the idea that farmers should be permitted to raise what animals they

are responsibly producing for market. If the government can tell you

what animals you can raise on your own farm and not be able to show

that you have caused any harm to your neighbors, then government is

clearly acting beyond its constitutional limits as well as

unreasonably under common law.

The article minimizes the idea that any harm is intended by

bureaucrats because at most one farmer is complaining about being

harmed. Well the rule among bureaucracy analysis, is that one today

is a dozen next month and universal next year ad infinitum. EVEN ONE

is clear INDICATION OF TREACHEROUS INTENT

Not to mention that there are two farmers pursuing the lawsuit.

As for the denigratory remarks that Natural News is being

'inflamatory' and 'Irresponsible', the placatory crowd is in denial

that there is any pattern to the behaviors of government that we are

see becoming blatant tyranny, from NDAA to Fast & Furious, to Patriot

spying and the new version of internet censorship and privacy

violations... the big picture must be not ignorable.

The other writer is patting himself and his buddy on the back for

starting an 'Association' of Mangalitsa breeders last year just in

time to challenge the Michigan DNR with their idea of breeding

pedigrees. DNR backed down (chose to offer selective enforcement)

with the idea that they would not attack pure bred animals of that

breed even though there are features, at least one maybe more, that

would put the breed on the sights of the DNR killers. So the smug

amusement of the writer is not doing the small farmers any good, since

it would be so limited and most farmers are not that pure bred

focused.

No genuine prize for the placating mindset.

MJ Raichyk

Mount Orab OH 45154

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>> From D.

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>> > http://lewrockwell.com/rep3/hogicide-in-michigan.html

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> Dear All,

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> I am a heritage hog farmer and firm believer that someone from the

> government is lying if their lips are moving. Therefore, I was greatly

> alarmed by the articles like the one on Rockwell's page. After further

> examination, however, it appears that the original article - the one that

> started this all - from NaturalNews.com was overly inflammatory and

> borderline fear mongering.

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> From the evidence available, apparently the Michigan legislation (though

> admittedly too broad) IS NOT aimed at, nor intended for small farmers

> raising heritage pigs for food.

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> You can listen and read for yourselves here

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> http://ipr.interlochen.org/ipr-news-features/episode/19381

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> and here

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> http://jasonfoscolo.com/?cat=104

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> Best Wishes,

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[Guest guest]

Pleaseemoveme fromthemailing list.

Jerry

To: RawDairy From: rickadam0@...Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:19:29 +0000Subject: Re: Re: Not By the Hair of My Chinny Chin Chin: Farmers Fight Hogicide in Michigan

I have noticed that Natural News, much like and Bill O'Reilly and many other so called mainstream news sources reports are nearer hyperbole than accurate news reporting. To digest their reports accurately requires that you examine their political agenda as much as their character and reputation. The days of Walter Cronkite are long past and a distant memory. Sent from my BlackBerry smartphone powered by Mobilicity

Sender: RawDairy

Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:21:44 -0000

To: <RawDairy >

ReplyTo: RawDairy

Subject: Re: Not By the Hair of My Chinny Chin Chin: Farmers Fight Hogicide in Michigan

>> From D.> Moderator > > > http://lewrockwell.com/rep3/hogicide-in-michigan.html>Dear All,I am a heritage hog farmer and firm believer that someone from the government is lying if their lips are moving. Therefore, I was greatly alarmed by the articles like the one on Rockwell's page. After further examination, however, it appears that the original article - the one that started this all - from NaturalNews.com was overly inflammatory and borderline fear mongering.From the evidence available, apparently the Michigan legislation (though admittedly too broad) IS NOT aimed at, nor intended for small farmers raising heritage pigs for food.You can listen and read for yourselves herehttp://ipr.interlochen.org/ipr-news-features/episode/19381and herehttp://jasonfoscolo.com/?cat=104Best Wishes,

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Re: Not By the Hair of My Chinny Chin Chin: Farmers Fight Hogicide in Michigan

>> From D.> Moderator > > > http://lewrockwell.com/rep3/hogicide-in-michigan.html>Dear All,I am a heritage hog farmer and firm believer that someone from the government is lying if their lips are moving. Therefore, I was greatly alarmed by the articles like the one on Rockwell's page. After further examination, however, it appears that the original article - the one that started this all - from NaturalNews.com was overly inflammatory and borderline fear mongering.From the evidence available, apparently the Michigan legislation (though admittedly too broad) IS NOT aimed at, nor intended for small farmers raising heritage pigs for food.You can listen and read for yourselves herehttp://ipr.interlochen.org/ipr-news-features/episode/19381and herehttp://jasonfoscolo.com/?cat=104Best Wishes,

[Guest guest]

I have tried that a few times, but that does not work.

Jerry

To: RawDairy From: goatmilk@...Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 16:12:18 -0400Subject: Re: Re: Not By the Hair of My Chinny Chin Chin: Farmers Fight Hogicide in Michigan

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Re: Not By the Hair of My Chinny Chin Chin: Farmers Fight Hogicide in Michigan

>> From D.> Moderator > > > http://lewrockwell.com/rep3/hogicide-in-michigan.html>Dear All,I am a heritage hog farmer and firm believer that someone from the government is lying if their lips are moving. Therefore, I was greatly alarmed by the articles like the one on Rockwell's page. After further examination, however, it appears that the original article - the one that started this all - from NaturalNews.com was overly inflammatory and borderline fear mongering.From the evidence available, apparently the Michigan legislation (though admittedly too broad) IS NOT aimed at, nor intended for small farmers raising heritage pigs for food.You can listen and read for yourselves herehttp://ipr.interlochen.org/ipr-news-features/episode/19381and herehttp://jasonfoscolo.com/?cat=104Best Wishes,

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Re: Not By the Hair of My Chinny Chin Chin: Farmers Fight Hogicide in Michigan

>> From D.> Moderator > > > http://lewrockwell.com/rep3/hogicide-in-michigan.html>Dear All,I am a heritage hog farmer and firm believer that someone from the government is lying if their lips are moving. Therefore, I was greatly alarmed by the articles like the one on Rockwell's page. After further examination, however, it appears that the original article - the one that started this all - from NaturalNews.com was overly inflammatory and borderline fear mongering.From the evidence available, apparently the Michigan legislation (though admittedly too broad) IS NOT aimed at, nor intended for small farmers raising heritage pigs for food.You can listen and read for yourselves herehttp://ipr.interlochen.org/ipr-news-features/episode/19381and herehttp://jasonfoscolo.com/?cat=104Best Wishes,

[Guest guest]

If you go into the actual group, I don't think you can edit it. You have to go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups

Then click on Edit My Groups at the top left of the page. Then there is a box you can check to Leave the Group.

That should work. If not, let me know and I'll see if there is another way to remove yourself.

To: "raw milk2" <rawdairy >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 1:13:58 PMSubject: RE: Re: Not By the Hair of My Chinny Chin Chin: Farmers Fight Hogicide in Michigan

I have tried that a few times, but that does not work. Jerry

To: RawDairy From: goatmilk@...Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 16:12:18 -0400Subject: Re: Re: Not By the Hair of My Chinny Chin Chin: Farmers Fight Hogicide in Michigan

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Re: Not By the Hair of My Chinny Chin Chin: Farmers Fight Hogicide in Michigan

>> From D.> Moderator > > > http://lewrockwell.com/rep3/hogicide-in-michigan.html>Dear All,I am a heritage hog farmer and firm believer that someone from the government is lying if their lips are moving. Therefore, I was greatly alarmed by the articles like the one on Rockwell's page. After further examination, however, it appears that the original article - the one that started this all - from NaturalNews.com was overly inflammatory and borderline fear mongering.From the evidence available, apparently the Michigan legislation (though admittedly too broad) IS NOT aimed at, nor intended for small farmers raising heritage pigs for food.You can listen and read for yourselves herehttp://ipr.interlochen.org/ipr-news-features/episode/19381and herehttp://jasonfoscolo.com/?cat=104Best Wishes,