Some Thoughts on Frequencies3

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I think 's earlier posting on frequencies pretty well sums up my

position, more specifically, I believe Rife originally measured the

output of the device, and looked for particular marker

frequencies. When those marker frequencies were present, Rife knew

that effects would occur. These frequencies were deemed by Rife to

be Mortal Oscillatory Rates ( MOR's) .

I am going to make a bit of conjecture now about Hoyland and his

measuring of frequencies.

Rife is having success with his assembly of different components, but

needs to turn them into a commercially viable instrument. He is

making some progress with this using his lab tech's, but needs

someone more skilled in Radio. He and Hoyland form a working

relationship to commercialize his device.

Hoyland looks at the problem before him from an engineering

standpoint.Among other considerations ,there were two ways that

Hoyland could have looked at the device. He could have decided that

what was important was the modulating frequency with an arbitrary

carrier frequency, or he could have decided that what was important

was the combination of the carrier frequency and the modulating

frequency . One clue to understand what Hoyland was

attempting would be the allocation of frequency bands back in the

1930's. In other words, the carrier frequency used in the early

devices in the 3MHz ranges may have in fact been an FCC requirement,

and not just an intentional choice that could be manipulated to

create a particular set of sidebands. I've been unable to locate the

ISM band allocations for the 1930's, but will say that the lowest ISM

band available today is 6.780 MHz, and 1/2 of that frequency is 3.39

MHz. As I recall, ( and maybe I am mistaken on this ) it had been

found that Crane's 1950's plasma units ( AZ 58's ) used the

allocated frequency band for scientific instruments of that era.

Thanks to some investigation by Charlene Boehm, a little can be said

about the bands in the late 20's and early 30's. Up until April 1,

1932, an amateur band was located at 3.5 MHz. to 3.55 MHz. This was

changed and moved to 3.9 MHz to 4.0 MHz due to interference problems

with Aviation telephone service which was allocated at 3.460 MHz. and

3.484 MHz. I don't know what was allocated to the band of frequencies

between 3.0 MHz to 3.4 MHz, but that information certainly is out there.

Transmitters, almost since day one, might have user selectable

carrier frequencies, but the modulation signal (

voice/music/etc.) was what was important. Receivers were tuned to

the carrier frequency, but people were only interested in what was

being modulated on the carrier. We all still do this today when we

listen to a radio. Perhaps this is why Hoyland made a statement about

Rife and his original frequency measurements being flawed ? With

metal antennas - such belief's are appropriate. The r and side

band frequencies are easily predictable based upon the modulation

frequency. What goes into the metal antenna - essentially is the same

that comes out of the antenna.

Hoylands' problem is that he didn't understand that what is input to

a plasma tube is not all that is emitted from a plasma tube. Plasma

Tube emissions are complex, and emit light, heat, acoustic waves,

and RF emissions ( with high E fields and low M fields ) that extend

well into the microwave regions. There are other types of waves

emitted from round plasma tubes such as electromagnetic evanescent

waves . Electromagnetic evanescent waves can become a conducting

media for wireless resonant energy transfer. The emissions from a

plasma tube are dependent upon a lot of variables. RF power into the

tube, the modulating frequency , harmonics of the modulating

frequency, the RF carrier frequency, harmonics of that carrier, the

length and the volume of the plasma, the type of gas, and the gas

pressure for example. Bluntly put, unless care is taken in

construction, there can be significant variances in the output

spectrum of any one particular plasma device !

This creates questions about what association Hoyland has with

frequencies. A possible scenario - Rife sets up a device and a sample

of known bacteria. Rife then tunes the device until the MOR of the

bacteria is confirmed via microscopic examination, and Hoyland then

measures the modulation frequency. This instead of Rife's old method

of measuring the output frequency. Hoyland thinks the modulation

frequency is the true MOR, and convinces Rife of this.

Here is my position ......If Hoyland did this, he made a Wrong

Deduction - the modulation frequency generates the MOR out of the

plasma tube. But the MOR and the modulation frequency can be two very

different frequencies !

Hoyland produces some commercial devices for customers. When a new

Rife plasma device was created by Hoyland, a series of settings on

the dials for each bacteria/virus/condition was given to the new

owner. There is a potential problem. If Hoyland calibrated the

dials to a previously determined modulation frequency for the new

unit, that may or may not have created success. Especially if the

device used to determine the MOR, and the device that was being sent

to the customer significantly differed. Conversely, had Hoyland

set each device based upon it's ability to produce effects, that

would be a very different situation. If what was important was the

output ( effects ) , each device could easily have it's own custom

dial settings for each condition.

The problem as I see it, is that Rife was originally using measured

output markers of specific wavelengths. In Hoylands' favor, use of

a specific modulation frequency of low harmonic input to the plasma

tube is going to produce a strong demodulated signal at the same

frequency as that as used for modulation. The sideband frequencies

will also be minimal in number, and have a high intensity. There is

a very large set of problems here that begs answers. A couple of

questions are pertinent to some discussion threads of late : " Is

the modulation frequency really the MOR ? " " Does the modulation

frequency in combination with a particular carrier frequency equal

the MOR ? " I think that both questions are too simplistic and at best

offer an incomplete answer. As pointed out, these, as well as

other variables, affect the output spectrum of a plasma tube and

determine the actual MOR.

So enough for my conjectures on Rife and Hoyland.

There seem to be two types of frequencies . The most common type is

in wide spread usage. This type is quite useful regardless of the

machine that generates it. One can use; pulsed magnets, pulsed

lasers, pulsed electricity ( electrode devices ) , RF devices (

regardless of carrier frequency ), pulsed E field ( EMEM's ) and so

on, and achieve effects. Some of these widely known frequencies are

432, 727, 802, and so on. These frequencies all are used to induce

physiologic responses - and people consistently benefit from their use.

The second set of frequencies - are more machine specific, are

related only to RF driven plasma devices, and would coincide more to

what Rife was doing. We still haven't been able to do much with

reproducing Rife's invitro effects. I can think of several reasons

for this. There may be a problem of finding the frequencies that can

produce the invitro effects, or it could be some sort of electrical

design issue. There is a third possibility - having to do with the

actual method used by Rife, which may in fact be the solution to

invitro testing. In other words Rife's invitro method may not have

been so much dependent upon the electronics as is now believed. Rife

innocently used another mechanism that created his invitro

effects. I am not willing to discuss this yet, and am hoping my

hypothesis can be evaluated soon.

As shown in some recent papers, at least one true " MOR " region

for bacteria ( based upon 1/2 wave DNA resonances ) are actually up

in the microwave frequency ranges. Microwave emissions come from RF

excited plasma tubes. The problem here is that Rife and Hoyland never

measured such frequencies ! Are there are other MOR's that are not

based upon DNA, and that occur at much lower frequencies ? The

answer is yes. One type of MOR is produced by di-electrophoresis.

This mechanism is used in the Novocure device and it's TT fields

which are applied through electrodes. I would not doubt that multiple

MOR frequencies may exist for a particular organism or cancer cell type.

How does one get around the issue of output frequency variance due to

differences in plasma tubes, power, modulation type, carrier

frequency and so on ? There may be multiple solutions to these

questions. The solution I have found, is one of maximizing bandwidth

output of the plasma tube, and then increasing the emission strength

of the individual spectral emissions by using overmodulation and high

RF power input. These basic concepts are the foundations of my

instrument, and that of the PERL instrument made by Resonant Light.

These electrical fundamentals have resulted in effectiveness and

reliability regardless of the variations between the components that

make up the devices. It is why people have self constructed their own

devices from a variety of different parts, and achieved outstanding results.

The concept is to feed the plasma tube with harmonics, as many

harmonics as possible. Harmonics of the carrier are important as

those of the modulation frequency. My device generates at least 15

carrier harmonics at 27.125 MHz intervals out to just beyond 400

MHz. Each carrier harmonic, has it's own sidebands . Being square

wave modulated, - the sidebands for each generated carrier harmonic

are quite numerous. I need to clear up a misunderstanding here.

Simply because my device is modulated by a square wave, there is not

a square wave output. There is a modulated rectangular shaped pulse

of the carrier that is generated. Inside that pulse is found the

carrier wave. The carrier wave is a sine wave oscillating at 27.125

Mhz. All of the harmonics of the carrier that are created , are all

sine waves. Better yet - due to the mixing effects within the plasma,

sub-fundamental carrier frequencies are also generated ! This has

been measured and seen spectrally. These sub fundamental carrier

frequencies can extend into the hundreds of KHz. You can hear these

on an good AM band radio. Finally, the faster the rise and fall

time of the generated pulse envelope, the more harmonics that can be

generated for input to the plasma tube, and even more side bands can

be created.

So where does this leave things ? Reliable effectiveness of an RF

plasma device has been shown to primarily be an item of bandwidth.

The frequencies emitted from the tube, even though of wide band

width, must be related to each other in some manner. A harmonic

multiple, a heterodyne creation, or some relationship that creates

ionic plasma resonance. But a relationship all the same. Why ? To

produce a state of coherence. Not some randomness found in wide

spectrum RF noise. With coherence, one can have phase locking, and

energy gain of the system through absorption of the applied

energy, with resulting physiologic responses.

There are commonalities between all frequency devices, and one can

combine a known modulation (treatment ) frequency, with any carrier

frequency and achieve good responses. Just as one could use that same

treatment frequency in an EMEM, or electrode device and achieve good

responses. But plasma devices, especially RF driven plasma devices,

are in a place of their own . Because of their wide variety of

simultaneous emissions ( light , heat, acoustic, etc. ) , they can

affect organisms and create physiologic effects that might take a

room full of different frequency devices which are limited to one or

maybe two emission types to create. As for Rife and Hoyland, well

just maybe , the original frequencies labeled by Rife as MOR's, and

then later those found by Hoyland, aren't all they are thought to be.

Gruszka wrote:

>I shall state it anyway for completeness because I like stating the obvious.

>Rife was measuring the frequencies leaving the tube and recorded two

>frequencies that on his equipment would always give the desired

>result. I am sure he would have measured the frequencies inside the

>bugs if he could have because that is where they do their work.

>Hoyland, being an engineer hired to design a smaller unit, only

>measured the frequency of the oscillator driving the tube and didn't

>take in to account the harmonics generated by the tube or any other

>changes the tube might have caused. Hence when he built his versions

>of the Rife machines not knowing the characteristics of the tube he

>had to calibrate them by watching the bugs die in the microscope.

>This achieves the same as measuring the two frequencies leaving the

>tube like Rife did. Hoyland probably found that setting 1.604 MHz on

>the oscillator would not work so as in the Scoon machine it ended up

>being 1.607450 MHz to kill the bugs due to the differences in tube

>characteristics.

>In a nutshell we should be reading the frequencies leaving the tube

>and make sure they are the same as Rife said because setting the

>oscillator is not good enough due to differences in tubes let alone

>the modern drive circuits. I don't know what the frequency

>characteristics of these modern tubes are relative to the original

>Rife tube and it might be that we have to move the oscillator

>further away from 1.604 MHz to get the tube to give the two

>frequencies Rife measured if it can be done.