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ferol that is of so much true for me too hate of the sudden booms and still even

as adult tend to watch with my ears plugged off but it is of hard when my

emotions surge and a hand flapping comes out leaving my ears exposed and so this

can be hard but I to love of the sensory stim the colors bring.

today I to be of the taxi things LOL and taking a van of much people to the fire

works to our areas. I to be of will tend do of my own things as they tend to

navigate to the bands and activities our areas does for the group of people. but

for me I to tend to stay at a park and swing and be by self for a time and when

it begins to get of some dark will move towards the place where the fire things

will be to go off and so of them and then when of the things is of over i to try

to navigate much quickly to avoid the mass crowds of poeople and get to my van

safely and avoid all the bumping, shouting and noise of them.

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Hi,

My daughter is 14 and has severe autism. I used to dread any activity involving

fireworks (ie; 4th of July, Disney World, etc.). What I found that works to

suppress the noise but still allow her to enjoy the visual of the fireworks is

using earplugs and having her listen to her iPod or portable DVD player at the

same time. Of course, the volume on the ipod or DVD player has to be turned up

to compete with the fireworks and earplugs. Since I started this with my

daughter she loves fireworks and even requests them. Now, for the ones that go

off when we are in our house we use fans as " white noise " (fans that plug in

electric socket from walmart or somewhere similar).

I hope this helps!

>

> Hi All,

>

> Am I correct in thinking the majority of our families could use a giant pair

of earmuffs today? We don't have as much trouble as we used to now that our

daughter is 11. When she is watching fireworks she enjoys them (albeit mostly

with her hands over her ears), but the ones that continue to go off when we're

in the house or otherwise not looking are still pretty startling to her. At

least we don't have screaming and crying most of the night! How awful for the

people that are so sensitive to the sudden, loud noises!

>

> We live in a rural area where fireworks are impractical at best, and

dangerous... but they are going off nightly from the last week of June through

the 6th or 7th of July. My personal belief is they should be left to the

professionals, or at least only one night!

>

> Best wishes to everyone to enjoy our Independence Day - as calmly as possible!

>

> Ferol

>

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yes for me I to struggle not only to the sounds but the boom of them

vibrates of my chest which causes my body to react as if it is of severe anxiety

and causes a build up of anxiety in me.

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About three years ago, our town moved their fireworks display to a park behind

our home. For the past two years, Katy has hid in the basement with our dog.

Tonight, she discovered that she could sit in her brothers room on the second

floor and have a clear view of the show. With the window closed, the noise did

not bother her at all. We all laughed outside because we could hear her

squealing comments over each display. She was so excited to get to watch them.

We were excited for her, too.

 ~~~Aggy

Mother of 22 yr old Katy

Diagnosed with PDD(nos)

Grandmother to Katy's daughter

Isabella Gail

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To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women

Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 11:52:46 AM

Subject: Fireworks

Hi All,

Am I correct in thinking the majority of our families could use a giant pair of

earmuffs today? We don't have as much trouble as we used to now that our

daughter is 11. When she is watching fireworks she enjoys them (albeit mostly

with her hands over her ears), but the ones that continue to go off when we're

in the house or otherwise not looking are still pretty startling to her. At

least we don't have screaming and crying most of the night! How awful for the

people that are so sensitive to the sudden, loud noises!

We live in a rural area where fireworks are impractical at best, and

dangerous... but they are going off nightly from the last week of June through

the 6th or 7th of July. My personal belief is they should be left to the

professionals, or at least only one night!

Best wishes to everyone to enjoy our Independence Day - as calmly as possible!

Ferol

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my 5 year old thinks that the fire work will come down on her and burn her and

refuses to step outside when they are scheduled

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Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 11:50:55 PM

Subject: Re: Fireworks

yes for me I to struggle not only to the sounds but the boom of them

vibrates of my chest which causes my body to react as if it is of severe anxiety

and causes a build up of anxiety in me.

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My daughter enjoyed the fireworks and did a sparkler last night. She didnt

cover her ears as she normally does when she doesnt like something, is scared or

afraid or in a new place.

I feel for the kids that are sensative to it and think ipods rock! lol.

Hope it wasnt too bad for any of you or your children.

Tammie

>

> Hi All,

>

> Am I correct in thinking the majority of our families could use a giant pair

of earmuffs today? We don't have as much trouble as we used to now that our

daughter is 11. When she is watching fireworks she enjoys them (albeit mostly

with her hands over her ears), but the ones that continue to go off when we're

in the house or otherwise not looking are still pretty startling to her. At

least we don't have screaming and crying most of the night! How awful for the

people that are so sensitive to the sudden, loud noises!

>

> We live in a rural area where fireworks are impractical at best, and

dangerous... but they are going off nightly from the last week of June through

the 6th or 7th of July. My personal belief is they should be left to the

professionals, or at least only one night!

>

> Best wishes to everyone to enjoy our Independence Day - as calmly as possible!

>

> Ferol

>

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Glad to hear your daughter enjoyed the fireworks this year! Even

participated!! That's awesome.

My daughter (just turned 6) has been exposed to loud fireworks every year

since the day she came home from the hospital (she was born on the 3rd and

came home on the 4th! :) ) The first year we obviously didn't take her out

to see the fireworks, that wouldn't have been too nice of me to do to a one

day old infant ;) But our neighbors had a lot of really neat fireworks and

it was still quite loud in the house.

In the years that followed we would go and find a place far enough away that

the noise is not quite as bad, but still allow good view of the lights.

She's never been all that interested... or I should say that they don't hold

her interest... though little does. She will watch a few minutes and then

she's over it.

Nothing different last night, with the exception of the fact that she has

seemed to grow out of (at least for now) trying to run off from us. So

instead of having to contain her for the hour we were there, we were able to

sit and relax while she played right there with us or her sister and then

she watched the first 5 min. of the show and gave a run down of each color

that was used. But after that she was pretty much done, she didn't even care

when the finally came and there were soooo many all at once. Instead she

spent most of the time putting her cup in and out of the cup holders and

rearranging everyone else's cups and playing musical chairs :)

I'm ok with that though, cause before we had to be extra extra careful as

she was so prone to darting away! We're still on guard, mostly out of habit,

but she doesn't seem to try to run off anymore.

Theresa

>

>

>

> My daughter enjoyed the fireworks and did a sparkler last night. She didnt

> cover her ears as she normally does when she doesnt like something, is

> scared or afraid or in a new place.

>

> I feel for the kids that are sensative to it and think ipods rock! lol.

>

> Hope it wasnt too bad for any of you or your children.

>

> Tammie

>

>

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > Am I correct in thinking the majority of our families could use a giant

> pair of earmuffs today? We don't have as much trouble as we used to now that

> our daughter is 11. When she is watching fireworks she enjoys them (albeit

> mostly with her hands over her ears), but the ones that continue to go off

> when we're in the house or otherwise not looking are still pretty startling

> to her. At least we don't have screaming and crying most of the night! How

> awful for the people that are so sensitive to the sudden, loud noises!

> >

> > We live in a rural area where fireworks are impractical at best, and

> dangerous... but they are going off nightly from the last week of June

> through the 6th or 7th of July. My personal belief is they should be left to

> the professionals, or at least only one night!

> >

> > Best wishes to everyone to enjoy our Independence Day - as calmly as

> possible!

> >

> > Ferol

> >

>

>

>

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Hailey is the exact same way..she used to dart off all the time and is now much

much better..it is such a relief..that and potty training has been two big leaps

for her. She still does it but not as often and we will probably forever be on

alert, " wheres Hailey, Where's HAiley " ..it gets exhausting but I dont want to

ever not know she is ok! She once went in a diaper shirt and no shoes quite far

from our home - she was going to the park..and made it there - and didnt even

get how panicked I was when I saw her..I was balling...and she just wanted to go

on the swings. It was very scarry..her new thing is walking down to the

driveway and getting into unlocked cars..or on motorcycles..not much fun. She

was quite cute yesterday participating in the games and playing some her way.

what else does your daughter like to do right now? Just curious.

Tammie

> > >

> > > Hi All,

> > >

> > > Am I correct in thinking the majority of our families could use a giant

> > pair of earmuffs today? We don't have as much trouble as we used to now that

> > our daughter is 11. When she is watching fireworks she enjoys them (albeit

> > mostly with her hands over her ears), but the ones that continue to go off

> > when we're in the house or otherwise not looking are still pretty startling

> > to her. At least we don't have screaming and crying most of the night! How

> > awful for the people that are so sensitive to the sudden, loud noises!

> > >

> > > We live in a rural area where fireworks are impractical at best, and

> > dangerous... but they are going off nightly from the last week of June

> > through the 6th or 7th of July. My personal belief is they should be left to

> > the professionals, or at least only one night!

> > >

> > > Best wishes to everyone to enjoy our Independence Day - as calmly as

> > possible!

> > >

> > > Ferol

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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oh it was really cute she when the fireworks started she kept saying, happy 4th

of july!

> > >

> > > Hi All,

> > >

> > > Am I correct in thinking the majority of our families could use a giant

> > pair of earmuffs today? We don't have as much trouble as we used to now that

> > our daughter is 11. When she is watching fireworks she enjoys them (albeit

> > mostly with her hands over her ears), but the ones that continue to go off

> > when we're in the house or otherwise not looking are still pretty startling

> > to her. At least we don't have screaming and crying most of the night! How

> > awful for the people that are so sensitive to the sudden, loud noises!

> > >

> > > We live in a rural area where fireworks are impractical at best, and

> > dangerous... but they are going off nightly from the last week of June

> > through the 6th or 7th of July. My personal belief is they should be left to

> > the professionals, or at least only one night!

> > >

> > > Best wishes to everyone to enjoy our Independence Day - as calmly as

> > possible!

> > >

> > > Ferol

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Yeah, we're always " where's ? " and when we're away from home we never

have our eyes off of her. I've always been a bit paranoid about loosing my

child even when my older girls were young. I'm probably still a bit

overprotective in general, but my middle daughter is 12 and she only

recently has been allowed to go to another part of the store (still insight

only though) cause I know she won't wander off or if she does I can easily

find her by calling her cell phone. With if she gets distracted by

something and wanders, she doesn't understand what to do and there was a

time that she'd go with anyone! Literally, anyone could pick her up and walk

off (I think at least, never tried it out obviously! LOL) but she'd talk to

anyone and would often wander off from me to go and 'talk' to someone she

saw. She had NO concept of danger and would walk right into the street or

right with anyone. So we were always right with her and at one point even

had to use one of those harness/leashes on her! At home we have chains on

all the doors cause she too would just go outside if the thought moved

her... The only times she ever got out though, she thankfully was in the

back yard and it's fenced with locks too... she'd usually be plum naked and

on the playground unit, can't imagine it would have felt good to get a

splinter in your bum! LOL But she'd still give quite a scare if she got out

there when our backs were turned!

Now she is used to not being able to run out the door and doesn't do it as

often, and she is a bit more wary of people. She loves to watch them but

usually if they look at her or speak to her, she gets paniced (I guess) and

hides her face very abrubtly and will sometimes bang her head on me if I'm

holding her, or on the shopping cart etc. Very rarely will she reply to a

person and usually it's only the older men, but it's never anything in

response to what they actually said to her. :)

rotates among things she likes to do, but right now she's very into

puzzles... the preschool wooded board type?? Not the peg single shape ones,

but the ones with like 7-11 pieces. But they aren't difficult for her, she

just loves to do them, and she'll take like 10 of them and dump all the

pieces and then line up the empty puzzles and then go through and find the

pieces and put them together. She did this and little else for a few weeks,

but now she is starting to find some interest in coloring, which I'm trying

to encourage as she usually refuses and will tantrum if you try to push too

hard.

She also loves to watch Dora and Diego. She used to ONLY watch them too...

for months that was all she would watch over and over (she's learned quite a

bit of spanish from them, and her first phrases were echo's of Dora

episodes!) It's only been since I let her start watching some tv in my bed

that she would accept that there was some tv's that weren't constantly

equipped with Dora and Diego at her will :) And then most recently we went

on a little trip to visit my parents and even though she had her own little

DVD player to watch some Dora and Diego, they didn't watch ANY kiddie tv and

she spent most of her time with the puzzles and watched very little Dora.

Now that we came home she has been watching regular Noggin at times instead

of insisting it be Dora.

We are still working on the potty training again. She was trained at 3 1/2

(nighttime too) but the seizure she had a year ago mother's day, made that

(along with a lot of other skills) disappear. She's not been the same child

since really... but she's regained many skills she lost, though potty

training doesn't seem to be something she has the slightest interest in. She

will flat out refuse to even sit and try to potty on the toilet, I've even

gotten her new potty chairs to try the way we did it at 3 1/2, but she won't

even look at them. She knows the rule of 'potty in the toilet, not panties'

and knows that mom and sister etc. go potty in the toilet, and she'll even

tell me that *I* have to sit on the potty and make me go, and I take

advantage of those times by letting her hear that I've gone and say how good

it is that I didn't go in my panties etc. But she just doesn't seem to know

when she has to go and is not uncomfortable to be in wet or dirty pull ups.

Though she has started to tell me off and on when she has pooped, it's not

everytime and not before she has to go, only after.

She starts ESY tomorrow and thru the rest of July, and the main thing they

are supposed to be working on is Toileting... I'm not so sure how this will

go, but I was willing to let them give it a try... I'll be thrilled to not

have to buy pull ups anymore.

Well I've rambled enough I guess :) But that's a little bit about

and what she enjoys and where's she's at with somethings.

Theresa

>

>

>

> Hailey is the exact same way..she used to dart off all the time and is now

> much much better..it is such a relief..that and potty training has been two

> big leaps for her. She still does it but not as often and we will probably

> forever be on alert, " wheres Hailey, Where's HAiley " ..it gets exhausting but

> I dont want to ever not know she is ok! She once went in a diaper shirt and

> no shoes quite far from our home - she was going to the park..and made it

> there - and didnt even get how panicked I was when I saw her..I was

> balling...and she just wanted to go on the swings. It was very scarry..her

> new thing is walking down to the driveway and getting into unlocked cars..or

> on motorcycles..not much fun. She was quite cute yesterday participating in

> the games and playing some her way.

>

> what else does your daughter like to do right now? Just curious.

>

> Tammie

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Hi All,

> > > >

> > > > Am I correct in thinking the majority of our families could use a

> giant

> > > pair of earmuffs today? We don't have as much trouble as we used to now

> that

> > > our daughter is 11. When she is watching fireworks she enjoys them

> (albeit

> > > mostly with her hands over her ears), but the ones that continue to go

> off

> > > when we're in the house or otherwise not looking are still pretty

> startling

> > > to her. At least we don't have screaming and crying most of the night!

> How

> > > awful for the people that are so sensitive to the sudden, loud noises!

> > > >

> > > > We live in a rural area where fireworks are impractical at best, and

> > > dangerous... but they are going off nightly from the last week of June

> > > through the 6th or 7th of July. My personal belief is they should be

> left to

> > > the professionals, or at least only one night!

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes to everyone to enjoy our Independence Day - as calmly as

> > > possible!

> > > >

> > > > Ferol

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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I've started playing supermarket games with Allie. When we get there I tell her,

" Allie, what would you do if I asked you to go get a gallon of milk? Show me. " I

let her be the leader & I try to prompt very, very little. She seems to love it.

Sometimes I ask her to show me how to get things I know there is no way she can

do so she can problem solve with me. Like if an item is too high she'll say,

" It's too high. " I'll ask, " Oh no! What are you going to do? " So far she always

says, " Go tell mommy! " I'm doing it for me more than here so I can feel somewhat

confident that she's shown me she knows what to do so I can loosen up. I'm also

lucky in that she has a sister two years older than her, they do lots of peer

buddy things together.

It came in handy when we went to Vanderbilt a few weeks back. I had to go to the

bathroom so bad by the time we got there I was literally running and pulling her

to the nearest bathroom. When we came out I realized I had no idea where we

parked & there were several floors. I asked Allie if she knew where we parked

'cause I was lost & she took us right to the van.

Debi

>

> Yeah, we're always " where's ? " and when we're away from home we never

> have our eyes off of her. I've always been a bit paranoid about loosing my

> child even when my older girls were young. I'm probably still a bit

> overprotective in general, but my middle daughter is 12 and she only

> recently has been allowed to go to another part of the store (still insight

> only though) cause I know she won't wander off or if she does I can easily

> find her by calling her cell phone. With if she gets distracted by

> something and wanders, she doesn't understand what to do and there was a

> time that she'd go with anyone!

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We bought Katy a cell phone with GPS tracking. Though she wonders off way less

than she did when she was litle, it is nice to know that we can find her

within 20 yards.

 ~~~Aggy

Mother of 22 yr old Katy

Diagnosed with PDD(nos)

Grandmother to Katy's daughter

Isabella Gail

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To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women

Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2009 8:03:32 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Fireworks

Yeah, we're always " where's ? " and when we're away from home we never

have our eyes off of her. I've always been a bit paranoid about loosing my

child even when my older girls were young. I'm probably still a bit

overprotective in general, but my middle daughter is 12 and she only

recently has been allowed to go to another part of the store (still insight

only though) cause I know she won't wander off or if she does I can easily

find her by calling her cell phone. With if she gets distracted by

something and wanders, she doesn't understand what to do and there was a

time that she'd go with anyone! Literally, anyone could pick her up and walk

off (I think at least, never tried it out obviously! LOL) but she'd talk to

anyone and would often wander off from me to go and 'talk' to someone she

saw. She had NO concept of danger and would walk right into the street or

right with anyone. So we were always right with her and at one point even

had to use one of those harness/leashes on her! At home we have chains on

all the doors cause she too would just go outside if the thought moved

her... The only times she ever got out though, she thankfully was in the

back yard and it's fenced with locks too... she'd usually be plum naked and

on the playground unit, can't imagine it would have felt good to get a

splinter in your bum! LOL But she'd still give quite a scare if she got out

there when our backs were turned!

Now she is used to not being able to run out the door and doesn't do it as

often, and she is a bit more wary of people. She loves to watch them but

usually if they look at her or speak to her, she gets paniced (I guess) and

hides her face very abrubtly and will sometimes bang her head on me if I'm

holding her, or on the shopping cart etc. Very rarely will she reply to a

person and usually it's only the older men, but it's never anything in

response to what they actually said to her. :)

rotates among things she likes to do, but right now she's very into

puzzles... the preschool wooded board type?? Not the peg single shape ones,

but the ones with like 7-11 pieces. But they aren't difficult for her, she

just loves to do them, and she'll take like 10 of them and dump all the

pieces and then line up the empty puzzles and then go through and find the

pieces and put them together. She did this and little else for a few weeks,

but now she is starting to find some interest in coloring, which I'm trying

to encourage as she usually refuses and will tantrum if you try to push too

hard.

She also loves to watch Dora and Diego. She used to ONLY watch them too...

for months that was all she would watch over and over (she's learned quite a

bit of spanish from them, and her first phrases were echo's of Dora

episodes!) It's only been since I let her start watching some tv in my bed

that she would accept that there was some tv's that weren't constantly

equipped with Dora and Diego at her will :) And then most recently we went

on a little trip to visit my parents and even though she had her own little

DVD player to watch some Dora and Diego, they didn't watch ANY kiddie tv and

she spent most of her time with the puzzles and watched very little Dora.

Now that we came home she has been watching regular Noggin at times instead

of insisting it be Dora.

We are still working on the potty training again. She was trained at 3 1/2

(nighttime too) but the seizure she had a year ago mother's day, made that

(along with a lot of other skills) disappear. She's not been the same child

since really.... but she's regained many skills she lost, though potty

training doesn't seem to be something she has the slightest interest in. She

will flat out refuse to even sit and try to potty on the toilet, I've even

gotten her new potty chairs to try the way we did it at 3 1/2, but she won't

even look at them. She knows the rule of 'potty in the toilet, not panties'

and knows that mom and sister etc. go potty in the toilet, and she'll even

tell me that *I* have to sit on the potty and make me go, and I take

advantage of those times by letting her hear that I've gone and say how good

it is that I didn't go in my panties etc. But she just doesn't seem to know

when she has to go and is not uncomfortable to be in wet or dirty pull ups.

Though she has started to tell me off and on when she has pooped, it's not

everytime and not before she has to go, only after.

She starts ESY tomorrow and thru the rest of July, and the main thing they

are supposed to be working on is Toileting... I'm not so sure how this will

go, but I was willing to let them give it a try... I'll be thrilled to not

have to buy pull ups anymore.

Well I've rambled enough I guess :) But that's a little bit about

and what she enjoys and where's she's at with somethings.

Theresa

>

>

>

> Hailey is the exact same way..she used to dart off all the time and is now

> much much better..it is such a relief..that and potty training has been two

> big leaps for her. She still does it but not as often and we will probably

> forever be on alert, " wheres Hailey, Where's HAiley " ..it gets exhausting but

> I dont want to ever not know she is ok! She once went in a diaper shirt and

> no shoes quite far from our home - she was going to the park..and made it

> there - and didnt even get how panicked I was when I saw her..I was

> balling...and she just wanted to go on the swings. It was very scarry..her

> new thing is walking down to the driveway and getting into unlocked cars..or

> on motorcycles. .not much fun. She was quite cute yesterday participating in

> the games and playing some her way.

>

> what else does your daughter like to do right now? Just curious.

>

> Tammie

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Hi All,

> > > >

> > > > Am I correct in thinking the majority of our families could use a

> giant

> > > pair of earmuffs today? We don't have as much trouble as we used to now

> that

> > > our daughter is 11. When she is watching fireworks she enjoys them

> (albeit

> > > mostly with her hands over her ears), but the ones that continue to go

> off

> > > when we're in the house or otherwise not looking are still pretty

> startling

> > > to her. At least we don't have screaming and crying most of the night!

> How

> > > awful for the people that are so sensitive to the sudden, loud noises!

> > > >

> > > > We live in a rural area where fireworks are impractical at best, and

> > > dangerous... but they are going off nightly from the last week of June

> > > through the 6th or 7th of July. My personal belief is they should be

> left to

> > > the professionals, or at least only one night!

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes to everyone to enjoy our Independence Day - as calmly as

> > > possible!

> > > >

> > > > Ferol

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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absolutely marvelous.  You taught your daughter she is capable of being a useful

human being.  How much more do any of us need to be complete.   

Subject: Re: Fireworks

To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women

Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 12:15 AM

I've started playing supermarket games with Allie. When we get there I tell her,

" Allie, what would you do if I asked you to go get a gallon of milk? Show me. " I

let her be the leader & I try to prompt very, very little. She seems to love it.

Sometimes I ask her to show me how to get things I know there is no way she can

do so she can problem solve with me. Like if an item is too high she'll say,

" It's too high. " I'll ask, " Oh no! What are you going to do? " So far she always

says, " Go tell mommy! " I'm doing it for me more than here so I can feel somewhat

confident that she's shown me she knows what to do so I can loosen up. I'm also

lucky in that she has a sister two years older than her, they do lots of peer

buddy things together.

It came in handy when we went to Vanderbilt a few weeks back. I had to go to the

bathroom so bad by the time we got there I was literally running and pulling her

to the nearest bathroom. When we came out I realized I had no idea where we

parked & there were several floors. I asked Allie if she knew where we parked

'cause I was lost & she took us right to the van.

Debi

>

> Yeah, we're always " where's ? " and when we're away from home we never

> have our eyes off of her. I've always been a bit paranoid about loosing my

> child even when my older girls were young. I'm probably still a bit

> overprotective in general, but my middle daughter is 12 and she only

> recently has been allowed to go to another part of the store (still insight

> only though) cause I know she won't wander off or if she does I can easily

> find her by calling her cell phone. With if she gets distracted by

> something and wanders, she doesn't understand what to do and there was a

> time that she'd go with anyone!

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debi I to much like of the life skills game you are of doing that iso f great

importance for her in the community as she develops more and more, when able

adde her not only being of hte leader but the buyer for items and show her she

has this much money but it costs this much , Oh no do we have enough? make it

very simple and with no errors then over time if she says she has enough but you

know she does not allow her the experiences of not having enough but be of right

there to connect to a fixer right away as you model fixing the problem.

Later then add not being the fixer and she is of not able to buy the item and

having the life skills of it is of not enough.

I to played of this game much so to my childrens all through out their lives and

I to began of this early. Most of my kids are much able to purchase items on

their own.

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gary I to so much like of you words here and you thinking in regards to autism

and development as a process of uneven development that has as much STRENGTHS as

it does challenges.

Allie has the model of how to live in her community and is of learning of how to

navigate it some. this is of much so a good things.

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That is a good 'game' to play. I will have to see if can show me

where to find stuff in the store.

Last year she used to remind the bus driver where to turn if they missed a

stop (if the child wasn't on the bus that day and they skipped their house)

She's only 6 so I still wouldn't let her off alone, but like you said, it

helps to know that they know the stuff.

That's great that Allie was able to help you find your car, I bet she was

proud of that! She got to help out for real and do something that even mommy

couldn't do! :) WTG Allie!

Theresa

>

>

>

> I've started playing supermarket games with Allie. When we get there I tell

> her, " Allie, what would you do if I asked you to go get a gallon of milk?

> Show me. " I let her be the leader & I try to prompt very, very little. She

> seems to love it. Sometimes I ask her to show me how to get things I know

> there is no way she can do so she can problem solve with me. Like if an item

> is too high she'll say, " It's too high. " I'll ask, " Oh no! What are you

> going to do? " So far she always says, " Go tell mommy! " I'm doing it for me

> more than here so I can feel somewhat confident that she's shown me she

> knows what to do so I can loosen up. I'm also lucky in that she has a sister

> two years older than her, they do lots of peer buddy things together.

>

> It came in handy when we went to Vanderbilt a few weeks back. I had to go

> to the bathroom so bad by the time we got there I was literally running and

> pulling her to the nearest bathroom. When we came out I realized I had no

> idea where we parked & there were several floors. I asked Allie if she knew

> where we parked 'cause I was lost & she took us right to the van.

>

> Debi

>

>

> >

> > Yeah, we're always " where's ? " and when we're away from home we

> never

> > have our eyes off of her. I've always been a bit paranoid about loosing

> my

> > child even when my older girls were young. I'm probably still a bit

> > overprotective in general, but my middle daughter is 12 and she only

> > recently has been allowed to go to another part of the store (still

> insight

> > only though) cause I know she won't wander off or if she does I can

> easily

> > find her by calling her cell phone. With if she gets distracted

> by

> > something and wanders, she doesn't understand what to do and there was a

> > time that she'd go with anyone!

>

>

>

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When we were recently in Alabama we had to go with my step dad to the dr.'s

office one day and while there I used the restroom in the waiting room. On

the back of the door they had this huge sign that promoted these little

bracelets that were GPS tracking for the elderly. They were provided free of

charge for elderly patients with memory issues, by some social services

program. It boasted how you could find your loved one within minutes if ever

they became lost... I thought how wonderful it would be if they (social

services) provided those for children with Autism or DS or any other special

need that may limit them from knowing the real danger of wandering off.

And they may actually, I don't know since we were at a dr's office that

deals only in adults it may just be that they have no need to advertise such

services for children.

After coming home and telling my husband about it, he said he heard

something similar on the news about them trying to get a program here to

provide those same types of things for kids with special needs.

It's been on the news too many times of a kid that got out of the house and

while everyone started looking right away, they unfortunately were later

found in a near by pond or lake. Victim to their own curiousity of the

water. If they were able to locate them with GPS then they could know right

where to go first instead of having a massive hunt looking in many wrong

places first. Saving time could save a life.

I know the technology is out there for those who have the money to pay for

it, I hope maybe one day it'll be offered to every family with a need for it

at no charge, or at least very affordable.

For me it would do no good to give a cell with GPS tracking as she'd

not likely have it with her if she were to get lost, but a bracelet or other

device that would be worn always would be much more effective at her age and

ability. And since all children with ASD have varying abilities, it would be

a great thing to have available.

Theresa

>

>

>

> We bought Katy a cell phone with GPS tracking. Though she wonders off way

> less than she did when she was litle, it is nice to know that we can find

> her within 20 yards.

> ~~~Aggy

> Mother of 22 yr old Katy

> Diagnosed with PDD(nos)

> Grandmother to Katy's daughter

> Isabella Gail

>

> ________________________________

> From: Theresa <temans@... <temans%40gmail.com>>

> To:

Autism_in_Girls_and_Women <Autism_in_Girls_and_Women%40yahoogroup\

s.com>

> Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2009 8:03:32 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Fireworks

>

> Yeah, we're always " where's ? " and when we're away from home we

> never

> have our eyes off of her. I've always been a bit paranoid about loosing my

> child even when my older girls were young. I'm probably still a bit

> overprotective in general, but my middle daughter is 12 and she only

> recently has been allowed to go to another part of the store (still insight

> only though) cause I know she won't wander off or if she does I can easily

> find her by calling her cell phone. With if she gets distracted by

> something and wanders, she doesn't understand what to do and there was a

> time that she'd go with anyone! Literally, anyone could pick her up and

> walk

> off (I think at least, never tried it out obviously! LOL) but she'd talk to

> anyone and would often wander off from me to go and 'talk' to someone she

> saw. She had NO concept of danger and would walk right into the street or

> right with anyone. So we were always right with her and at one point even

> had to use one of those harness/leashes on her! At home we have chains on

> all the doors cause she too would just go outside if the thought moved

> her... The only times she ever got out though, she thankfully was in the

> back yard and it's fenced with locks too... she'd usually be plum naked and

> on the playground unit, can't imagine it would have felt good to get a

> splinter in your bum! LOL But she'd still give quite a scare if she got out

> there when our backs were turned!

>

> Now she is used to not being able to run out the door and doesn't do it as

> often, and she is a bit more wary of people. She loves to watch them but

> usually if they look at her or speak to her, she gets paniced (I guess) and

> hides her face very abrubtly and will sometimes bang her head on me if I'm

> holding her, or on the shopping cart etc. Very rarely will she reply to a

> person and usually it's only the older men, but it's never anything in

> response to what they actually said to her. :)

>

> rotates among things she likes to do, but right now she's very into

> puzzles... the preschool wooded board type?? Not the peg single shape ones,

> but the ones with like 7-11 pieces. But they aren't difficult for her, she

> just loves to do them, and she'll take like 10 of them and dump all the

> pieces and then line up the empty puzzles and then go through and find the

> pieces and put them together. She did this and little else for a few weeks,

> but now she is starting to find some interest in coloring, which I'm trying

> to encourage as she usually refuses and will tantrum if you try to push too

> hard.

>

> She also loves to watch Dora and Diego. She used to ONLY watch them too...

> for months that was all she would watch over and over (she's learned quite

> a

> bit of spanish from them, and her first phrases were echo's of Dora

> episodes!) It's only been since I let her start watching some tv in my bed

> that she would accept that there was some tv's that weren't constantly

> equipped with Dora and Diego at her will :) And then most recently we went

> on a little trip to visit my parents and even though she had her own little

> DVD player to watch some Dora and Diego, they didn't watch ANY kiddie tv

> and

> she spent most of her time with the puzzles and watched very little Dora.

> Now that we came home she has been watching regular Noggin at times instead

> of insisting it be Dora.

>

> We are still working on the potty training again. She was trained at 3 1/2

> (nighttime too) but the seizure she had a year ago mother's day, made that

> (along with a lot of other skills) disappear. She's not been the same child

> since really.... but she's regained many skills she lost, though potty

> training doesn't seem to be something she has the slightest interest in.

> She

> will flat out refuse to even sit and try to potty on the toilet, I've even

> gotten her new potty chairs to try the way we did it at 3 1/2, but she

> won't

> even look at them. She knows the rule of 'potty in the toilet, not panties'

> and knows that mom and sister etc. go potty in the toilet, and she'll even

> tell me that *I* have to sit on the potty and make me go, and I take

> advantage of those times by letting her hear that I've gone and say how

> good

> it is that I didn't go in my panties etc. But she just doesn't seem to know

> when she has to go and is not uncomfortable to be in wet or dirty pull ups.

> Though she has started to tell me off and on when she has pooped, it's not

> everytime and not before she has to go, only after.

> She starts ESY tomorrow and thru the rest of July, and the main thing they

> are supposed to be working on is Toileting... I'm not so sure how this will

> go, but I was willing to let them give it a try... I'll be thrilled to not

> have to buy pull ups anymore.

>

> Well I've rambled enough I guess :) But that's a little bit about

> and what she enjoys and where's she's at with somethings.

>

> Theresa

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Hailey is the exact same way..she used to dart off all the time and is

> now

> > much much better..it is such a relief..that and potty training has been

> two

> > big leaps for her. She still does it but not as often and we will

> probably

> > forever be on alert, " wheres Hailey, Where's HAiley " ..it gets exhausting

> but

> > I dont want to ever not know she is ok! She once went in a diaper shirt

> and

> > no shoes quite far from our home - she was going to the park..and made it

> > there - and didnt even get how panicked I was when I saw her..I was

> > balling...and she just wanted to go on the swings. It was very

> scarry..her

> > new thing is walking down to the driveway and getting into unlocked

> cars..or

> > on motorcycles. .not much fun. She was quite cute yesterday participating

> in

> > the games and playing some her way.

> >

> > what else does your daughter like to do right now? Just curious.

> >

> > Tammie

> >

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi All,

> > > > >

> > > > > Am I correct in thinking the majority of our families could use a

> > giant

> > > > pair of earmuffs today? We don't have as much trouble as we used to

> now

> > that

> > > > our daughter is 11. When she is watching fireworks she enjoys them

> > (albeit

> > > > mostly with her hands over her ears), but the ones that continue to

> go

> > off

> > > > when we're in the house or otherwise not looking are still pretty

> > startling

> > > > to her. At least we don't have screaming and crying most of the

> night!

> > How

> > > > awful for the people that are so sensitive to the sudden, loud

> noises!

> > > > >

> > > > > We live in a rural area where fireworks are impractical at best,

> and

> > > > dangerous... but they are going off nightly from the last week of

> June

> > > > through the 6th or 7th of July. My personal belief is they should be

> > left to

> > > > the professionals, or at least only one night!

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes to everyone to enjoy our Independence Day - as calmly

> as

> > > > possible!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ferol

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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theresa it isof more than a game in actualality it is of greatly important for

this skill to be for them as adults. often times we as parents do everything for

our kids and they do not have to do anything for themselves and or contribute to

their family and this cal help them learn skills that are of greatly needed as

part of the family as well as thier life as they mature to adults. we dont want

to enable them and lock them into their challenges in life we want to free them

and give the skills they will need as the progress to adult life.

I to so much wish one teached of me these things as a child but none did I to

ahd to work much hard in life after i to becomed of an adult person. and it took

me much of all my 20's and 30's -of age to learn the skills I to have now, such

as shopping, driving, cleaning and parenting of the kids. my childrens also

forced of me due to their own ASD issues to be of a voice for them because if I

to not speaked out no one would so it forced me to learn and connect to the

realms of autism at a higher level than would have had it just of been of me in

this family who had of autism.

none of the family outside of the sister in law has even readed or tried to

learn of the autism related issues of me and or the childrens of me. even the

husband of me has not. He says he can not focus to the words but yet will read

all day from the computer and hims magazines and books he likes so it is of to

that he cant focus or attend to it , I to feel he chooses not to .

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theresa there is of some words that they wer of promoting of htis device for all

childrens not just those with special needs because of hte massive increase in

child abductions , they are of talking of implants though like pets.... but this

way a pedophile cannot take off the bracelet or items, and some shoes are of now

comng out with tracking devices too? I to be of thinking of that for my grand

babies. just as a safe things, because Delaney now if she is of upset no matter

where she is she will just try to walk out the door, she did walk out the door

at an aldi's one day while her mom was of paying and I was of bagging Aimee's

things, and I to thined she had laney and she thinked I to had of her and Laney

was of mad because her mom would not buy of that book she wanted. so she left

the store and walked out the parking lot. that was of much scary to me.

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Oh yes Sondra, I understand it's more than a game and is really vital for

learning self help skills. But children of all ability learn so much better

though games and since the word game was used before I just kept that going

:).

I agree with you that it is important for parents to work hard to help kids

learn the skills they'll need in life, and not just kids with ASD or other

special needs either. All kids need to learn these things and some kids just

kinda learn by observing their parents on a day to day basis, but even

typical kids tune that out and only focus on things that have a direct

impact on them.

When I was growing up, I never had chores. I think the most my mom would

ever make me to was clean my room, and even then it wasn't that often and I

did a poor job at it. The only other stuff I did around the house was only

when I wanted to, never because it was my responsibility to do it. I was an

only child from a divorced home and I think my mom was really trying to not

demand too much from me after my dad left and she thought it was easier to

just do it herself than to have to convince me to do it and do it right.

It definately shows today. I don't live in a pig pen by any means, but I

sure do lack the ability to really plan out a cleaning schedule and keep

things neat and orderly as I'd like them. My husband and I are both pack

rats and have a hard time letting go of things we *might* need someday.

But I've made a big point in giving Tiffanie (my 12 year old) chores that

she must do, and correctly, before she can do her own fun things. And when

she does them wrong I don't just say ok never mind let me do it... I help

her to see how it should be done and she keeps on till she's got it right.

She complains about it (like any pre-teen would) but I've explained over and

over again how she'll be happy I made her do these things when she's older

and remind her that someday she'll have kids that she can teach to do the

chores and will be able to then pass those things on to them. :)

has a few chores too that she helps with, but for now they are not forced

upon her in the same way for her sister.

Theresa

>

>

>

> theresa it isof more than a game in actualality it is of greatly important

> for this skill to be for them as adults. often times we as parents do

> everything for our kids and they do not have to do anything for themselves

> and or contribute to their family and this cal help them learn skills that

> are of greatly needed as part of the family as well as thier life as they

> mature to adults. we dont want to enable them and lock them into their

> challenges in life we want to free them and give the skills they will need

> as the progress to adult life.

>

> I to so much wish one teached of me these things as a child but none did I

> to ahd to work much hard in life after i to becomed of an adult person. and

> it took me much of all my 20's and 30's -of age to learn the skills I to

> have now, such as shopping, driving, cleaning and parenting of the kids. my

> childrens also forced of me due to their own ASD issues to be of a voice for

> them because if I to not speaked out no one would so it forced me to learn

> and connect to the realms of autism at a higher level than would have had it

> just of been of me in this family who had of autism.

>

> none of the family outside of the sister in law has even readed or tried to

> learn of the autism related issues of me and or the childrens of me. even

> the husband of me has not. He says he can not focus to the words but yet

> will read all day from the computer and hims magazines and books he likes so

> it is of to that he cant focus or attend to it , I to feel he chooses not to

> .

>

> sondra

>

>

>

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Oh yes... that is scarey when they walk off. They were talking on the news

the other day about how so many drownings in florida happen because there

was too much supervision... Not really mean that there were too many eyes

actually watching the child, but like your story of the grocery store,

everyone thinks that someone else is watching or has the child, when really

no one is watching.

I know that an implant like they can do with animals sounds like a good

idea, but to me it would open up too many doors for abuse of privacy. The

right people could then know where a person is at all times even when it's

not needed to be known. It's a fine line between safety and privacy. I just

don't know if I would be ready to do something like that, especially being

an invasive type of thing.

having a tracker in a shoe is a good idea, IF they keep their shoes on ;).

Only other issue I see with the shoes is that kids feet can grow so fast and

sometimes they go through 3 sizes in one year... that could get expensive.

Some bracelets (or anklets) can be fastened on so that they do not come

off unless a special key is used or it's cut off.... Unfortunately with the

predators, no matter what technology exists, they'll figure a way to keep on

doing what they do, just like any other criminal. :(

Theresa

>

>

>

> theresa there is of some words that they wer of promoting of htis device

> for all childrens not just those with special needs because of hte massive

> increase in child abductions , they are of talking of implants though like

> pets.... but this way a pedophile cannot take off the bracelet or items, and

> some shoes are of now comng out with tracking devices too? I to be of

> thinking of that for my grand babies. just as a safe things, because Delaney

> now if she is of upset no matter where she is she will just try to walk out

> the door, she did walk out the door at an aldi's one day while her mom was

> of paying and I was of bagging Aimee's things, and I to thined she had laney

> and she thinked I to had of her and Laney was of mad because her mom would

> not buy of that book she wanted. so she left the store and walked out the

> parking lot. that was of much scary to me.

>

> sondra

>

>

>

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We let Katy pick the phone and she hourds it! She never lets it out of her sight

and she never uses it. She won't let anyone else use it either. She was just so

excited to have a phone like all of the other teens. At the time we were

considering it, we did call the phone companies to ask if they had any programs

available for those on medicaid. They did not offer us any deals. The phone was

100 bucks but again, there is never a charge for minutes.. She sometimes uses

her unlimited texting. She just hates to talk on phones.

 ~~~Aggy

Mother of 22 yr old Katy

Diagnosed with PDD(nos)

Grandmother to Katy's daughter

Isabella Gail

________________________________

To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women

Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 7:07:06 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Fireworks

When we were recently in Alabama we had to go with my step dad to the dr.'s

office one day and while there I used the restroom in the waiting room. On

the back of the door they had this huge sign that promoted these little

bracelets that were GPS tracking for the elderly. They were provided free of

charge for elderly patients with memory issues, by some social services

program. It boasted how you could find your loved one within minutes if ever

they became lost... I thought how wonderful it would be if they (social

services) provided those for children with Autism or DS or any other special

need that may limit them from knowing the real danger of wandering off.

And they may actually, I don't know since we were at a dr's office that

deals only in adults it may just be that they have no need to advertise such

services for children.

After coming home and telling my husband about it, he said he heard

something similar on the news about them trying to get a program here to

provide those same types of things for kids with special needs.

It's been on the news too many times of a kid that got out of the house and

while everyone started looking right away, they unfortunately were later

found in a near by pond or lake. Victim to their own curiousity of the

water. If they were able to locate them with GPS then they could know right

where to go first instead of having a massive hunt looking in many wrong

places first. Saving time could save a life.

I know the technology is out there for those who have the money to pay for

it, I hope maybe one day it'll be offered to every family with a need for it

at no charge, or at least very affordable.

For me it would do no good to give a cell with GPS tracking as she'd

not likely have it with her if she were to get lost, but a bracelet or other

device that would be worn always would be much more effective at her age and

ability. And since all children with ASD have varying abilities, it would be

a great thing to have available.

Theresa

>

>

>

> We bought Katy a cell phone with GPS tracking. Though she wonders off way

> less than she did when she was litle, it is nice to know that we can find

> her within 20 yards.

> ~~~Aggy

> Mother of 22 yr old Katy

> Diagnosed with PDD(nos)

> Grandmother to Katy's daughter

> Isabella Gail

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Theresa <temansgmail (DOT) com <temans%40gmail. com>>

> To: Autism_in_Girls_ and_Women@ yahoogroups. com<Autism_in_Girls_ and_Women%

40yahoogroups. com>

> Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2009 8:03:32 PM

> Subject: Re: [Autism_in_Girls_ and_Women] Re: Fireworks

>

> Yeah, we're always " where's ? " and when we're away from home we

> never

> have our eyes off of her. I've always been a bit paranoid about loosing my

> child even when my older girls were young. I'm probably still a bit

> overprotective in general, but my middle daughter is 12 and she only

> recently has been allowed to go to another part of the store (still insight

> only though) cause I know she won't wander off or if she does I can easily

> find her by calling her cell phone. With if she gets distracted by

> something and wanders, she doesn't understand what to do and there was a

> time that she'd go with anyone! Literally, anyone could pick her up and

> walk

> off (I think at least, never tried it out obviously! LOL) but she'd talk to

> anyone and would often wander off from me to go and 'talk' to someone she

> saw. She had NO concept of danger and would walk right into the street or

> right with anyone. So we were always right with her and at one point even

> had to use one of those harness/leashes on her! At home we have chains on

> all the doors cause she too would just go outside if the thought moved

> her... The only times she ever got out though, she thankfully was in the

> back yard and it's fenced with locks too... she'd usually be plum naked and

> on the playground unit, can't imagine it would have felt good to get a

> splinter in your bum! LOL But she'd still give quite a scare if she got out

> there when our backs were turned!

>

> Now she is used to not being able to run out the door and doesn't do it as

> often, and she is a bit more wary of people. She loves to watch them but

> usually if they look at her or speak to her, she gets paniced (I guess) and

> hides her face very abrubtly and will sometimes bang her head on me if I'm

> holding her, or on the shopping cart etc. Very rarely will she reply to a

> person and usually it's only the older men, but it's never anything in

> response to what they actually said to her. :)

>

> rotates among things she likes to do, but right now she's very into

> puzzles... the preschool wooded board type?? Not the peg single shape ones,

> but the ones with like 7-11 pieces. But they aren't difficult for her, she

> just loves to do them, and she'll take like 10 of them and dump all the

> pieces and then line up the empty puzzles and then go through and find the

> pieces and put them together. She did this and little else for a few weeks,

> but now she is starting to find some interest in coloring, which I'm trying

> to encourage as she usually refuses and will tantrum if you try to push too

> hard.

>

> She also loves to watch Dora and Diego. She used to ONLY watch them too...

> for months that was all she would watch over and over (she's learned quite

> a

> bit of spanish from them, and her first phrases were echo's of Dora

> episodes!) It's only been since I let her start watching some tv in my bed

> that she would accept that there was some tv's that weren't constantly

> equipped with Dora and Diego at her will :) And then most recently we went

> on a little trip to visit my parents and even though she had her own little

> DVD player to watch some Dora and Diego, they didn't watch ANY kiddie tv

> and

> she spent most of her time with the puzzles and watched very little Dora.

> Now that we came home she has been watching regular Noggin at times instead

> of insisting it be Dora.

>

> We are still working on the potty training again. She was trained at 3 1/2

> (nighttime too) but the seizure she had a year ago mother's day, made that

> (along with a lot of other skills) disappear. She's not been the same child

> since really.... but she's regained many skills she lost, though potty

> training doesn't seem to be something she has the slightest interest in.

> She

> will flat out refuse to even sit and try to potty on the toilet, I've even

> gotten her new potty chairs to try the way we did it at 3 1/2, but she

> won't

> even look at them. She knows the rule of 'potty in the toilet, not panties'

> and knows that mom and sister etc. go potty in the toilet, and she'll even

> tell me that *I* have to sit on the potty and make me go, and I take

> advantage of those times by letting her hear that I've gone and say how

> good

> it is that I didn't go in my panties etc. But she just doesn't seem to know

> when she has to go and is not uncomfortable to be in wet or dirty pull ups.

> Though she has started to tell me off and on when she has pooped, it's not

> everytime and not before she has to go, only after.

> She starts ESY tomorrow and thru the rest of July, and the main thing they

> are supposed to be working on is Toileting... I'm not so sure how this will

> go, but I was willing to let them give it a try... I'll be thrilled to not

> have to buy pull ups anymore.

>

> Well I've rambled enough I guess :) But that's a little bit about

> and what she enjoys and where's she's at with somethings.

>

> Theresa

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Hailey is the exact same way..she used to dart off all the time and is

> now

> > much much better..it is such a relief...that and potty training has been

> two

> > big leaps for her. She still does it but not as often and we will

> probably

> > forever be on alert, " wheres Hailey, Where's HAiley " ..it gets exhausting

> but

> > I dont want to ever not know she is ok! She once went in a diaper shirt

> and

> > no shoes quite far from our home - she was going to the park..and made it

> > there - and didnt even get how panicked I was when I saw her..I was

> > balling...and she just wanted to go on the swings. It was very

> scarry..her

> > new thing is walking down to the driveway and getting into unlocked

> cars..or

> > on motorcycles. .not much fun. She was quite cute yesterday participating

> in

> > the games and playing some her way.

> >

> > what else does your daughter like to do right now? Just curious.

> >

> > Tammie

> >

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi All,

> > > > >

> > > > > Am I correct in thinking the majority of our families could use a

> > giant

> > > > pair of earmuffs today? We don't have as much trouble as we used to

> now

> > that

> > > > our daughter is 11. When she is watching fireworks she enjoys them

> > (albeit

> > > > mostly with her hands over her ears), but the ones that continue to

> go

> > off

> > > > when we're in the house or otherwise not looking are still pretty

> > startling

> > > > to her. At least we don't have screaming and crying most of the

> night!

> > How

> > > > awful for the people that are so sensitive to the sudden, loud

> noises!

> > > > >

> > > > > We live in a rural area where fireworks are impractical at best,

> and

> > > > dangerous... but they are going off nightly from the last week of

> June

> > > > through the 6th or 7th of July. My personal belief is they should be

> > left to

> > > > the professionals, or at least only one night!

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes to everyone to enjoy our Independence Day - as calmly

> as

> > > > possible!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ferol

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Aggy,

FYI My daughter just learned how to now keep her appointments on phone and use

the alarm. Because she put music she likes on the phone she has programed the

phone number to special people and the alarm for wake up and another alarm for

she has to be somewhere. It is working great to improve her life skills. And she

loves " her " own music on it too!

Carolyn

>

> We let Katy pick the phone and she hourds it! She never lets it out of her

sight and she never uses it. She won't let anyone else use it either. She was

just so excited to have a phone like all of the other teens. At the time we were

considering it, we did call the phone companies to ask if they had any programs

available for those on medicaid. They did not offer us any deals. The phone was

100 bucks but again, there is never a charge for minutes.. She sometimes uses

her unlimited texting. She just hates to talk on phones.

>  ~~~Aggy

> Mother of 22 yr old Katy

> Diagnosed with PDD(nos)

> Grandmother to Katy's daughter

> Isabella Gail

>

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yes over the years much the husband of me had of a cell phone for me and lacked

how to access anything but dial out a number to him or the home of me, and or

answer the phone if my brain processed it ringing to me.

He recently got of me a g-1 and now for the first time can now text message

which is of less anxiety producing than speaking in real time conversations to

peoples, the testing allows me to respond in my own fashion of visual language

and structures.

I to also discovered the alarm of my phone and use of it often too. but to

access other things still not interested and lack the purpose of it and so not

use much of what my phone can provide for me as a tool in life.

sondra

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