Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 We've always had our blood draws done by NHS. See if you can persuade them to use a numbing cream, like EMLA. Breakspear used to do ours as well without mishap although I know that's not the case for everyone. All Tom's other blood draws have been in the US. (and I sympathise, he hates them but he's not yet that strong so he can be held) Good luck!! > > Hi All > I have just joined you. I wonder if anyone could recommend a clinic/hospital > that has experience in drawing blood from a very, very, strong 9yr old. We > live near Brentwood, Essex but would be willing to travel just about > anywhere. > Thanks > Sylvia > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1324 - Release Date: 10/03/2008 > 19:27 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 it made perfect sense. I think if you tell them in advance they have time to line up their troops. Tom once had to have a drip, they wrapped him up in a kind of neoprene coat with no arms. He was mightily hacked off but at least the canula was ok > > Hi all > I've just read my message back and realised that it didn't make a lot of > sense - sorry - not a good start! Hopefully you all understood - I'm the one > with the very strong 9yr old - - and I'm looking for an understanding > clinic/hospital with strong staff. > Thanks > Sylvia > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1324 - Release Date: 10/03/2008 > 19:27 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Hi Sylvia We went to NHS Queens Hosp in Romford recently and they were very understanding. We put the EMLA cream on before we left, so by the time we got there parked and found the children's ward his numb patches were ready. They put some sensory stuff in the treatment room and put on a video for him to watch. They got what they needed but i did have to promise a trip to toy shop as a bribe. He did say " I don't wanted to be hurted " when he saw the needle but they just said it won't hurt and he accepted it. Normally they only do under 5 but make exceptions for special needs. I don't know about a strong orderly to restrain the NHS can be very iffy about that but you can only ask....We had a very similar arrangement with the Breakspeare in Hemel Hempstead, I just bought the portable DVD into the room and had treats for him to eat as a distraction. HTH > > Hi all > I've just read my message back and realised that it didn't make a lot of > sense - sorry - not a good start! Hopefully you all understood - I'm the one > with the very strong 9yr old - - and I'm looking for an understanding > clinic/hospital with strong staff. > Thanks > Sylvia > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1324 - Release Date: 10/03/2008 > 19:27 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Edith had stitches in her lip as a 2 year old. As Steph says they wrapped her up in a straitjacket type thing and stitched away. Not because she was autistic. No one knew at that point, but because she was otherwise uncontrollable and the procedure had to be done. For dental work they would have to give a full anaesthetic. Depends on the necessity what they will do, I guess Sally claire_downey wrote: > > Hi Sylvia > > We went to NHS Queens Hosp in Romford recently and they were very > understanding. We put the EMLA cream on before we left, so by the > time we got there parked and found the children's ward his numb > patches were ready. They put some sensory stuff in the treatment room > and put on a video for him to watch. They got what they needed > but i did have to promise a trip to toy shop as a bribe. He did > say " I don't wanted to be hurted " when he saw the needle but they > just said it won't hurt and he accepted it. Normally they only do > under 5 but make exceptions for special needs. > > I don't know about a strong orderly to restrain the NHS can be very > iffy about that but you can only ask....We had a very similar > arrangement with the Breakspeare in Hemel Hempstead, I just bought > the portable DVD into the room and had treats for him to eat as a > distraction. > > HTH > > > > > > > Hi all > > I've just read my message back and realised that it didn't make a > lot of > > sense - sorry - not a good start! Hopefully you all understood - > I'm the one > > with the very strong 9yr old - - and I'm looking for an > understanding > > clinic/hospital with strong staff. > > Thanks > > Sylvia > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1324 - Release Date: > 10/03/2008 > > 19:27 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1322 - Release Date: 09/03/2008 12:17 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 ---I'm not sure if your son will be little too old for this technique, but when Jazzie had her bloods done, they put Emla on first to numb her arm, then they had her sit on my lap, sideways so her legs were dangling to one side. I cuddled her in and her arm closest to my body was slipped under my arm, so they were standing behind me. They did the bloods from this position, while I sang to her. It went very well, the best attempt ever. I'm not sure how it would go if your son decided to kick off though. Would a DVD help? Regards Glynis In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , " Sylvia Marsh " wrote: > > Hi All > I have just joined you. I wonder if anyone could recommend a clinic/hospital > that has experience in drawing blood from a very, very, strong 9yr old. We > live near Brentwood, Essex but would be willing to travel just about > anywhere. > Thanks > Sylvia > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1324 - Release Date: 10/03/2008 > 19:27 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Hi Sylvia, Might not have chance this time but maybe for next... We had same problem and used a variation on this program that worked for us: http://web.archive.org/web/20060306111548/http://asasb.org/phlebotomy.htm We still do the program on the run up to draws but he's ok with it as knows what to expect. email me if you want more details. Regards, Mark > > Hi all > I've just read my message back and realised that it didn't make a lot of > sense - sorry - not a good start! Hopefully you all understood - I'm the one > with the very strong 9yr old - - and I'm looking for an understanding > clinic/hospital with strong staff. > Thanks > Sylvia > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1324 - Release Date: 10/03/2008 > 19:27 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 I'm just wondering (and I hate these kind of suggestions, I have to say) but could you desensitise him to the idea of having blood draws? Could you go to the hospital prior and play, make it a safe/fun place, do a few rehearsal blood draws, etc (or is that too time consuming for you?) What about having needles (or just syringes, lol) and all the paraphenalia at home and just allowing him to be around it without stressing about it? Or would he be interesting in watching someone else have blood drawn, etc? This kind of approach works wonders for our son but I know for some kids it won't work at all. Our local hospital has always been supportive of this approach for us, once we set the agenda and told them what we needed to do to gain our son's cooperation. Anyway, maybe that wouldn't work at all but I do wish you the best, I remember one time was limp with dehydration and could barely move (and he was only about 18 months old) but when they went to put that IV in the strength of god must have gone into him because for a kid who couldn't move he sure could fight and it took 3 of us to hold him down. Good luck, Darla xx sylvia, hi!i have a 9 year old (very strong too!). i go to our local outpatient at our nearest hospital, or even convince a team to come to the house sometimes (community nurses who're happy to do childrens bloods). it takes about 5 members of staff usually, plus myself. we decide on a fast strategy that everyone agrees before the blood taking session, then we firmly and quickly get the job done with massive rewards at the end. it might be one holds eddie, one person on each arm, one on his legs (which get very active). its important that the person who's holding the blood taken arm does not let it bend (vain collapses).breakspear also draw blood for my son and he seems calmer there, they have a dvd set up in a special room.we always use numbing patches (again available from your local nhs provider), plus ethyl chloride spray. so i'm sure its just the holding that's upsetting him.thank god its only done every so often as its exhausting and totally draining!karenzaxxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 sylvia, hi! i have a 9 year old (very strong too!). i go to our local outpatient at our nearest hospital, or even convince a team to come to the house sometimes (community nurses who're happy to do childrens bloods). it takes about 5 members of staff usually, plus myself. we decide on a fast strategy that everyone agrees before the blood taking session, then we firmly and quickly get the job done with massive rewards at the end. it might be one holds eddie, one person on each arm, one on his legs (which get very active). its important that the person who's holding the blood taken arm does not let it bend (vain collapses). breakspear also draw blood for my son and he seems calmer there, they have a dvd set up in a special room. we always use numbing patches (again available from your local nhs provider), plus ethyl chloride spray. so i'm sure its just the holding that's upsetting him. thank god its only done every so often as its exhausting and totally draining! karenza xxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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