Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 If it's commercial, it doesn't have all the bacterium that the natural grains have. I think the commercial ones, and the powdered ones, only contain 10 different species, whereas the natural grains contain dozens. what is the point of getting kefir grains/starter when u can just use an oz. of regular kefir to make a qt. of it? elaine -- Warmly, Verderaime RVT,RN,DHerbHolistic Health PractitionerOffering Phyto- and Nutritional Therapywww.mtairyfolkmedicinecenter.com American Holistic Health Association- Practitioner MemberAmerican Herbalists GuildAmerican Association of Nutritional Counselors- Professional MemberThe whiter the bread, the sooner you're dead. " I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of theConstitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, onobjects of benevolence, the money of their constituents... " Madison (Author of the Constitution) " Successful people are always looking for opportunities to help others. Unsuccessful people are always asking, 'What's in it for me?' " - " No pessimist ever discovered the secret of the stars, or sailed to an uncharted land, or opened a new doorway for the human spirit. " Helen Keller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 would this same reasoning apply to yogurt making as well? Would using a commerical plain yogurt not be as good as using a pure starter culture? jen If it's commercial, it doesn't have all the bacterium that the natural grains have. I think the commercial ones, and the powdered ones, only contain 10 different species, whereas the natural grains contain dozens. what is the point of getting kefir grains/starter when u can just use an oz. of regular kefir to make a qt. of it?elaine -- Warmly, Verderaime RVT,RN,DHerbHolistic Health PractitionerOffering Phyto- and Nutritional Therapy www.mtairyfolkmedicinecenter.comAmerican Holistic Health Association- Practitioner MemberAmerican Herbalists GuildAmerican Association of Nutritional Counselors- Professional Member The whiter the bread, the sooner you're dead. " I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of theConstitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, onobjects of benevolence, the money of their constituents... " Madison (Author of the Constitution) " Successful people are always looking for opportunities to help others. Unsuccessful people are always asking, 'What's in it for me?' " - " No pessimist ever discovered the secret of the stars, or sailed to an uncharted land, or opened a new doorway for the human spirit. " Helen Keller -- " This is what you shall do: Be loyal to what you love, Be true to the Earth, and Fight your enemies with passion and laughter. " ~ Abbey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 I don't think it is as drastic with yogurt as with kefir. I think if you got some raw milk yogurt made by the farmer and used that as your culture, it would be very healthy with optimum amounts of probiotics. But then, I do not think the powdered yogurt culture would be quite as good...adequate...but not as good a quality. would this same reasoning apply to yogurt making as well? Would using a commerical plain yogurt not be as good as using a pure starter culture? jen If it's commercial, it doesn't have all the bacterium that the natural grains have. I think the commercial ones, and the powdered ones, only contain 10 different species, whereas the natural grains contain dozens. what is the point of getting kefir grains/starter when u can just use an oz. of regular kefir to make a qt. of it?elaine -- Warmly, Verderaime RVT,RN,DHerbHolistic Health PractitionerOffering Phyto- and Nutritional Therapy www.mtairyfolkmedicinecenter.comAmerican Holistic Health Association- Practitioner MemberAmerican Herbalists GuildAmerican Association of Nutritional Counselors- Professional Member The whiter the bread, the sooner you're dead. " I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of theConstitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, onobjects of benevolence, the money of their constituents... " Madison (Author of the Constitution) " Successful people are always looking for opportunities to help others. Unsuccessful people are always asking, 'What's in it for me?' " - " No pessimist ever discovered the secret of the stars, or sailed to an uncharted land, or opened a new doorway for the human spirit. " Helen Keller -- " This is what you shall do: Be loyal to what you love, Be true to the Earth, and Fight your enemies with passion and laughter. " ~ Abbey -- Warmly, Verderaime RVT,RN,DHerbHolistic Health PractitionerOffering Phyto- and Nutritional Therapywww.mtairyfolkmedicinecenter.com American Holistic Health Association- Practitioner MemberAmerican Herbalists GuildAmerican Association of Nutritional Counselors- Professional MemberThe whiter the bread, the sooner you're dead. " I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of theConstitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, onobjects of benevolence, the money of their constituents... " Madison (Author of the Constitution) " Successful people are always looking for opportunities to help others. Unsuccessful people are always asking, 'What's in it for me?' " - " No pessimist ever discovered the secret of the stars, or sailed to an uncharted land, or opened a new doorway for the human spirit. " Helen Keller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Don’t agree w/ that. Depends entirely on the components of the culture, and the yogurt you get from the farmer, and what he used. I use an added probiotics ABY653 and ABY2C from dairy connections. By uses a frozen mother, or DVI powder you will have more consistent bacteria, and when you reuse yogurt typically the strep thermopolis grows at a faster rate, and will become predominate, an issue for some people w/ gut/immune system challenges. www.MajestyFarm.com Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves, therefore, are its only safe repositories.- Jefferson -1781 From: RawDairy [mailto:RawDairy ] On Behalf Of maria verderaime Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:23 AM To: RawDairy Subject: Re: kefir culture I don't think it is as drastic with yogurt as with kefir. I think if you got some raw milk yogurt made by the farmer and used that as your culture, it would be very healthy with optimum amounts of probiotics. But then, I do not think the powdered yogurt culture would be quite as good...adequate...but not as good a quality. On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Jen Bole <jenerin78gmail> wrote: would this same reasoning apply to yogurt making as well? Would using a commerical plain yogurt not be as good as using a pure starter culture? jen On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:02 PM, maria verderaime <critters5065gmail> wrote: If it's commercial, it doesn't have all the bacterium that the natural grains have. I think the commercial ones, and the powdered ones, only contain 10 different species, whereas the natural grains contain dozens. On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 5:43 PM, econurbs <econurbs> wrote: what is the point of getting kefir grains/starter when u can just use an oz. of regular kefir to make a qt. of it? elaine -- Warmly, Verderaime RVT,RN,DHerb Holistic Health Practitioner Offering Phyto- and Nutritional Therapy www.mtairyfolkmedicinecenter.com American Holistic Health Association- Practitioner Member American Herbalists Guild American Association of Nutritional Counselors- Professional Member The whiter the bread, the sooner you're dead. " I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents... " Madison (Author of the Constitution) " Successful people are always looking for opportunities to help others. Unsuccessful people are always asking, 'What's in it for me?' " - " No pessimist ever discovered the secret of the stars, or sailed to an uncharted land, or opened a new doorway for the human spirit. " Helen Keller -- " This is what you shall do: Be loyal to what you love, Be true to the Earth, and Fight your enemies with passion and laughter. " ~ Abbey -- Warmly, Verderaime RVT,RN,DHerb Holistic Health Practitioner Offering Phyto- and Nutritional Therapy www.mtairyfolkmedicinecenter.com American Holistic Health Association- Practitioner Member American Herbalists Guild American Association of Nutritional Counselors- Professional Member The whiter the bread, the sooner you're dead. " I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents... " Madison (Author of the Constitution) " Successful people are always looking for opportunities to help others. Unsuccessful people are always asking, 'What's in it for me?' " - " No pessimist ever discovered the secret of the stars, or sailed to an uncharted land, or opened a new doorway for the human spirit. " Helen Keller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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