Re: Re: Really anemic since drinking KTcould it be the Black tea???

[Guest guest]

My iron level was checked last week when I went to give blood. My level was 16

(under 12 can not donate) I am a vegetarian but rarely eat any animal products.

I drink 16-32 ounces of KT a day.

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To: original_kombucha

Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2012 1:20 PM

Subject: Re: Really anemic since drinking KTcould it be the Black tea???

 

you could brew kt using white or green teas if you don't like black/red...

>

>

> Hi everyone

>

> I am NEW here..

>

> Thanks for the acceptance in becoming a part of this group I have been

drinking Kombuchi made with Black Tea for about 2 months now..

>

> BUT I started to get weak and sick feeling...just believing it was the

detoxing going on, until I just could stand hardly anymore so I went to the Doc.

and found out for some reason I have become really badly anemic..

> She asked me what I have been doing lately that is different that could be

contributing to this happening all of a sudden?

>

> All I could think of was I was drinking " BLACK tea " Kombucha and Kefir

water...(here is something really interesting... I have not had sugar in my

house for almost 36 yrs now...and NO black tea ever in our house,we do not like

it at all...but I thought it would be OK in the Kombuchi from what I had read up

until then about kombucha and kefir)

>

> Now I have started a BIG search on the internet about kombucha and kefir and

discovered there is " OXALIC ACID " in BLACK tea that can cause ANEMIA for some

people...

>

> And I can't find to much about kefir doing that BUT????

>

> So here is my question.. has anyone else had this happen or am I way off on

this and have to keep searching for why I am anemic all of a sudden(when I

certainly was not before)

>

> thanks

>

[Guest guest]

My iron level was checked last week when I went to give blood. My level was 16

(under 12 can not donate) I am a vegetarian but rarely eat any animal products.

I drink 16-32 ounces of KT a day.

________________________________

To: original_kombucha

Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2012 1:20 PM

Subject: Re: Really anemic since drinking KTcould it be the Black tea???

 

you could brew kt using white or green teas if you don't like black/red...

>

>

> Hi everyone

>

> I am NEW here..

>

> Thanks for the acceptance in becoming a part of this group I have been

drinking Kombuchi made with Black Tea for about 2 months now..

>

> BUT I started to get weak and sick feeling...just believing it was the

detoxing going on, until I just could stand hardly anymore so I went to the Doc.

and found out for some reason I have become really badly anemic..

> She asked me what I have been doing lately that is different that could be

contributing to this happening all of a sudden?

>

> All I could think of was I was drinking " BLACK tea " Kombucha and Kefir

water...(here is something really interesting... I have not had sugar in my

house for almost 36 yrs now...and NO black tea ever in our house,we do not like

it at all...but I thought it would be OK in the Kombuchi from what I had read up

until then about kombucha and kefir)

>

> Now I have started a BIG search on the internet about kombucha and kefir and

discovered there is " OXALIC ACID " in BLACK tea that can cause ANEMIA for some

people...

>

> And I can't find to much about kefir doing that BUT????

>

> So here is my question.. has anyone else had this happen or am I way off on

this and have to keep searching for why I am anemic all of a sudden(when I

certainly was not before)

>

> thanks

>

[Guest guest]

Wow, this stuff can get complicated sometimes! I became interested in oxalic

acid recently when i had a kidney stone. It is the cause of one kind of kidney

stone. There were references that said to avoid foods high in oxalic acid, but

that includes a lot of good stuff. Beet is one of the highest, and i had been

consuming a lot of beet kvass. We also read that calcium in the diet mitigates

it, so i'm hoping the raw milk kefir we have daily will help. I'm also using

chanca piedra to prevent more stones. If you think KT may be interfering with

your assimilation of iron don't drink KT around meals or supplements. And if it

really does reduce your iron maybe you can increase your dietary intake of iron

until the effect tapers off (as the link from suggests happens). - Woody

Subject: Re: Really anemic since drinking KTcould it be the Black tea???

To: original_kombucha

Date: Monday, April 9, 2012, 9:31 AM

 

According to the link to the article below occasional tea drinker can

suffer anemia but consistent, long terms drinkers do not because their body

adjust to the tea. The article explains it better.

You should cut back for a while to allow your body to build up. You can also

start drinking beet kvass. Beets are a great source of absorable iron.

http://www.amazing-green-tea.com/green-tea-and-iron.html

> >

> >

> > Hi everyone

> >

> > I am NEW here..

> >

> > Thanks for the acceptance in becoming a part of this group I have been

drinking Kombuchi made with Black Tea for about 2 months now..

> >

> > BUT I started to get weak and sick feeling...just believing it was the

detoxing going on, until I just could stand hardly anymore so I went to the Doc.

and found out for some reason I have become really badly anemic..

> > She asked me what I have been doing lately that is different that could be

contributing to this happening all of a sudden?

> >

> > All I could think of was I was drinking " BLACK tea " Kombucha and Kefir

water...(here is something really interesting... I have not had sugar in my

house for almost 36 yrs now...and NO black tea ever in our house,we do not like

it at all...but I thought it would be OK in the Kombuchi from what I had read up

until then about kombucha and kefir)

> >

> > Now I have started a BIG search on the internet about kombucha and kefir and

discovered there is " OXALIC ACID " in BLACK tea that can cause ANEMIA for some

people...

> >

> > And I can't find to much about kefir doing that BUT????

> >

> > So here is my question.. has anyone else had this happen or am I way off on

this and have to keep searching for why I am anemic all of a sudden(when I

certainly was not before)

> >

> > thanks

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow, this stuff can get complicated sometimes! I became interested in oxalic

acid recently when i had a kidney stone. It is the cause of one kind of kidney

stone. There were references that said to avoid foods high in oxalic acid, but

that includes a lot of good stuff. Beet is one of the highest, and i had been

consuming a lot of beet kvass. We also read that calcium in the diet mitigates

it, so i'm hoping the raw milk kefir we have daily will help. I'm also using

chanca piedra to prevent more stones. If you think KT may be interfering with

your assimilation of iron don't drink KT around meals or supplements. And if it

really does reduce your iron maybe you can increase your dietary intake of iron

until the effect tapers off (as the link from suggests happens). - Woody

Subject: Re: Really anemic since drinking KTcould it be the Black tea???

To: original_kombucha

Date: Monday, April 9, 2012, 9:31 AM

 

According to the link to the article below occasional tea drinker can

suffer anemia but consistent, long terms drinkers do not because their body

adjust to the tea. The article explains it better.

You should cut back for a while to allow your body to build up. You can also

start drinking beet kvass. Beets are a great source of absorable iron.

http://www.amazing-green-tea.com/green-tea-and-iron.html

> >

> >

> > Hi everyone

> >

> > I am NEW here..

> >

> > Thanks for the acceptance in becoming a part of this group I have been

drinking Kombuchi made with Black Tea for about 2 months now..

> >

> > BUT I started to get weak and sick feeling...just believing it was the

detoxing going on, until I just could stand hardly anymore so I went to the Doc.

and found out for some reason I have become really badly anemic..

> > She asked me what I have been doing lately that is different that could be

contributing to this happening all of a sudden?

> >

> > All I could think of was I was drinking " BLACK tea " Kombucha and Kefir

water...(here is something really interesting... I have not had sugar in my

house for almost 36 yrs now...and NO black tea ever in our house,we do not like

it at all...but I thought it would be OK in the Kombuchi from what I had read up

until then about kombucha and kefir)

> >

> > Now I have started a BIG search on the internet about kombucha and kefir and

discovered there is " OXALIC ACID " in BLACK tea that can cause ANEMIA for some

people...

> >

> > And I can't find to much about kefir doing that BUT????

> >

> > So here is my question.. has anyone else had this happen or am I way off on

this and have to keep searching for why I am anemic all of a sudden(when I

certainly was not before)

> >

> > thanks

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Herbs that help with Iron Deficiency are:

Alfalfa, bilberry, cherry, dandelion (greens, roots & blossoms), grape

skins, hawthorn, mullein, nettle, red raspberry, shepherd's purse and

yellow dock. My personal favorites would be Dandelion, Red Raspberry and

Nettle, they grow nearly everywhere, are free if you know where to look and

delicious! Plus they have folic acid, and many of the B vitamins, as well

as vit C.

Molasses is a good iron supplement, also cooking with Cast Iron Pans.

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>

>

> Wow this was interesting...

> thanks for sharing

>

> I have been getting leg cramps which I never have before... so to me that

> seemed weird but I never thought it may be the KT

>

> And just today my husband went and got some liquid minerals which I see

> has magnesium in it.. to help me absorb the iron plus taking a few more

> things to help me right now....

> I also had my first batch of kefir water made with molasses and must say

> it is the first time for over a week I have had a bit more energy and could

> get up and walk around more.. NICE

>

> thanks for sharing

> Bless

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I use Floradix Iron and Herbs for my monthly anemia and it works very well.

Yellow Dock is another herb you could take. I have taken it in tincture form and

had energy results within 15 minutes. I wonder about maybe even adding some iron

rich herbs in with your Kombucha?

 

Modiste

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To: original_kombucha

Sent: Monday, April 9, 2012 8:53 PM

Subject: Re: Really anemic since drinking KTcould it be the Black tea???

 

Very interesting... so maybe this anemia is for just a wee time???

I am open to new thoughts for sure..

Beets is one food I cannot eat because it constipates me.. weird hey!!!

But if I was to make what you call Beet Kyass.. what is that and how do you make

it???

thanks for all you shared

bless

[Guest guest]

I take potassium for leg cramps, as well as magnesium. Calcium is best taken

with magnesium in a higher Mag ratio than Cal. Be aware that Magnesium will

loosen the bowels!!

Modiste

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To: original_kombucha

Sent: Monday, April 9, 2012 9:07 PM

Subject: Re: Really anemic since drinking KTcould it be the Black tea???

 

Wow this was interesting...

thanks for sharing

I have been getting leg cramps which I never have before... so to me that seemed

weird but I never thought it may be the KT

And just today my husband went and got some liquid minerals which I see has

magnesium in it.. to help me absorb the iron plus taking a few more things to

help me right now....

I also had my first batch of kefir water made with molasses and must say it is

the first time for over a week I have had a bit more energy and could get up and

walk around more.. NICE

thanks for sharing

Bless

..

[Guest guest]

Beet kvass is a wonderful fermented beverage. It's really simple to make, just

cut up a beet into pieces about 5 mm size and put in a half gallon jar. Put in a

teaspoon of sea salt and a couple teaspoons of whey (i get mine from kefir, you

can also get it from yogurt or clabbered raw milk). Fill with good water and let

set on the counter for about 3 days. It's got the earthy sweetness of beets

along with the tangy lacto fermented taste. Yum! - Woody

Subject: Re: Really anemic since drinking KTcould it be the Black tea???

To: original_kombucha

Date: Monday, April 9, 2012, 9:53 PM

 

Very interesting... so maybe this anemia is for just a wee time???

I am open to new thoughts for sure..

Beets is one food I cannot eat because it constipates me.. weird hey!!!

But if I was to make what you call Beet Kyass.. what is that and how do you make

it???

thanks for all you shared

bless

[Guest guest]

Sounds very good .. regards the yogurt culture .. am assuming I could try tofu

yogurt instead of the dairy ferments ??? ...cause lactose free doesn't cut it

for my GI, no matter how the school of thot claims that the fermentation breaks

down all residual lactose .. tks

Re: Really anemic since drinking KTcould it be the Black tea???

To: original_kombucha

Date: Monday, April 9, 2012, 9:53 PM

 

Very interesting... so maybe this anemia is for just a wee time???

I am open to new thoughts for sure..

Beets is one food I cannot eat because it constipates me.. weird hey!!!

But if I was to make what you call Beet Kyass.. what is that and how do you make

it???

thanks for all you shared

bless

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure if kefir whey has lactose or not. The whey is the liquid part that

separates from the curds when the milk is acidic (such as when kefir ferments).

Our kefir is pretty sour, most of the lactose is probably converted to lactic

acid. Even if someone were lactose intolerant it might not make any difference,

you only put a couple of teaspoons in a half gallon and that is a very small

amount for each serving of kvass. If you're concerned about it you can use some

kvass from a previous batch, or some unpasteurized sauerkraut juice, and you can

even order vegetable fermentation starters. - Woody

From: changeyourlife8 < luvmylife@... >

Subject: Re: Really anemic since drinking KTcould it be the Black tea???

To: original_kombucha

Date: Monday, April 9, 2012, 9:53 PM

 

Very interesting... so maybe this anemia is for just a wee time???

I am open to new thoughts for sure..

Beets is one food I cannot eat because it constipates me.. weird hey!!!

But if I was to make what you call Beet Kyass.. what is that and how do you make

it???

thanks for all you shared

bless

[Guest guest]

> Do you think I could put the herbs you mentioned in the KT... or do you

> think the Oxalic acid from the tea would interfere???

> bless

>

>

I would recommend that any herb outside of Green Tea, or Black Tea should

be saved for use during the 2nd ferment. Green Tea and Black Tea are the

only herbs that we know support the pH levels that Kombucha needs in order

to thrive and create a safe drink. The 2nd ferment time without the SCOBY

floating in the Kombucha is necessary to allow the cultured beverage to

become even more absorbable and digestible. It is also during the 2nd

ferment time where you can add any herb, fruit or anything else you would

like to flavor or enhance your beverage anyway that seems good to you. But

I highly recommend the 2nd ferment time, as this just makes the drink

bubblier, improves flavor, and seems to make it more absorbable and less

abrasive to the gut.