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Hi Marina,We had this for years with my daughter Noor who is now 10. It was becoming a real problem as she is a big child and I used to be so uncomfortable and had difficulty sleeping. I would take her to her room (sometimes 3 times a night). She did this for about 5 years and it drove me mad. I just couldn't move without her waking. I don't know if this was due to some sort of anxiety.She seemed to outgrow this habit on her own. She sometimes comes to my bed even now but doesn't want that physical contact any more.It's a difficult one. I don't have a solution- just wanted to assure you that you aren't alone.ZahraSent from my iPhone

Hi All - Jack always tends to take at least an hour to fall asleep sometimes 2 and a half! He starts off in the bedroom his brother but at some point during the night he will get in my bed where he has to have either his leg through yours, your arm across him or the very least his foot touching you. This is all fine until I need to get out of bed to either have a wee or tell the dog to shut up, the minute i move away from him he sits bolt upright and is in pursuit and then obviously wide awake!!! H e even stirs when next door pull their bathroom light cord at 5am every morning. This is becoming a real problem plus I have R.Arthritis and he practically forces me to sleep in a certain way that is really painfull after an hour or so. Any ideas anyone? Marina x

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Hi Marina

Have you seen a cranial osteopath with Jack at all, i had 3 years of sleepless nights (not every night just most nights) tried most things but cranial was really a huge turning point for us, we obviously have night waking when yeast shows its ugly head but i know the patterns now (usually the night giggling is a dead giveaway) so i up yeast protocol.

HTH

x

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: zahrawaheed@...Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:04:01 +0000Subject: Re: Anyone else experience this?

Hi Marina,

We had this for years with my daughter Noor who is now 10. It was becoming a real problem as she is a big child and I used to be so uncomfortable and had difficulty sleeping. I would take her to her room (sometimes 3 times a night). She did this for about 5 years and it drove me mad. I just couldn't move without her waking. I don't know if this was due to some sort of anxiety.

She seemed to outgrow this habit on her own. She sometimes comes to my bed even now but doesn't want that physical contact any more.

It's a difficult one. I don't have a solution- just wanted to assure you that you aren't alone.

Zahra

Sent from my iPhone

Hi All - Jack always tends to take at least an hour to fall asleep sometimes 2 and a half! He starts off in the bedroom his brother but at some point during the night he will get in my bed where he has to have either his leg through yours, your arm across him or the very least his foot touching you. This is all fine until I need to get out of bed to either have a wee or tell the dog to shut up, the minute i move away from him he sits bolt upright and is in pursuit and then obviously wide awake!!! H e even stirs when next door pull their bathroom light cord at 5am every morning. This is becoming a real problem plus I have R.Arthritis and he practically forces me to sleep in a certain way that is really painfull after an hour or so. Any ideas anyone? Marina x

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Hi Zahra - at least I know there is a chance that he may outgrow this - as it takes so long for him to fall asleep and then to wake him is so frustrating!! Marina

 

Hi Marina,

We had this for years with my daughter Noor who is now 10. It was becoming a real problem as she is a big child and I used to be so uncomfortable and had difficulty sleeping. I would take her to her room (sometimes 3 times a night). She did this for about 5 years and it drove me mad. I just couldn't move without her waking. I don't know if this was due to some sort of anxiety.

She seemed to outgrow this habit on her own. She sometimes comes to my bed even now but doesn't want that physical contact any more.

It's a difficult one. I don't have a solution- just wanted to assure you that you aren't alone.

Zahra

Sent from my iPhone

 

Hi All - Jack always tends to take at least an hour to fall asleep sometimes 2 and a half! He starts off in the bedroom his brother but at some point during the night he will get in my bed where he has to have either his leg through yours, your arm across him or the very least his foot touching you. This is all fine until I need to get out of bed to either have a wee or tell the dog to shut up, the minute i move away from him he sits bolt upright and is in pursuit and then obviously wide awake!!! H e even stirs when next door pull their bathroom light cord at 5am every morning. This is becoming a real problem plus I have R.Arthritis and he practically forces me to sleep in a certain way that is really painfull after an hour or so. Any ideas anyone?  Marina x

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Hey - He has being seeing Carl Irwin for the last few months has made improvements such as trying to do head stands but nothing with the sleep! Quite flappy at the moment and two footed jumping every where but this sleep thing has been going on forever! Marina

 

Hi Marina Have you seen a cranial osteopath with Jack at all, i had 3 years of sleepless nights (not every night just most nights) tried most things but cranial was really a huge turning point for us, we obviously have night waking when yeast shows its ugly head but i know the patterns now (usually the night giggling is a dead giveaway) so i up yeast protocol.

 HTH  x 

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: zahrawaheed@...Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:04:01 +0000

Subject: Re: Anyone else experience this?  

Hi Marina,

We had this for years with my daughter Noor who is now 10. It was becoming a real problem as she is a big child and I used to be so uncomfortable and had difficulty sleeping. I would take her to her room (sometimes 3 times a night). She did this for about 5 years and it drove me mad. I just couldn't move without her waking. I don't know if this was due to some sort of anxiety.

She seemed to outgrow this habit on her own. She sometimes comes to my bed even now but doesn't want that physical contact any more.

It's a difficult one. I don't have a solution- just wanted to assure you that you aren't alone.

Zahra

Sent from my iPhone

 

Hi All - Jack always tends to take at least an hour to fall asleep sometimes 2 and a half! He starts off in the bedroom his brother but at some point during the night he will get in my bed where he has to have either his leg through yours, your arm across him or the very least his foot touching you. This is all fine until I need to get out of bed to either have a wee or tell the dog to shut up, the minute i move away from him he sits bolt upright and is in pursuit and then obviously wide awake!!! H e even stirs when next door pull their bathroom light cord at 5am every morning. This is becoming a real problem plus I have R.Arthritis and he practically forces me to sleep in a certain way that is really painfull after an hour or so. Any ideas anyone?  Marina x

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Hi Marina

Hand flapping and high stimming here usually means yeast, is his tongue coated? Maybe up your yeast protocol for a few days see if that makes a difference.

x

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: marinavrahimi@...Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 21:53:29 +0000Subject: Re: Anyone else experience this?

Hey - He has being seeing Carl Irwin for the last few months has made improvements such as trying to do head stands but nothing with the sleep! Quite flappy at the moment and two footed jumping every where but this sleep thing has been going on forever! Marina

Hi Marina Have you seen a cranial osteopath with Jack at all, i had 3 years of sleepless nights (not every night just most nights) tried most things but cranial was really a huge turning point for us, we obviously have night waking when yeast shows its ugly head but i know the patterns now (usually the night giggling is a dead giveaway) so i up yeast protocol. HTH x

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: zahrawaheed@...Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:04:01 +0000Subject: Re: Anyone else experience this?

Hi Marina,

We had this for years with my daughter Noor who is now 10. It was becoming a real problem as she is a big child and I used to be so uncomfortable and had difficulty sleeping. I would take her to her room (sometimes 3 times a night). She did this for about 5 years and it drove me mad. I just couldn't move without her waking. I don't know if this was due to some sort of anxiety.

She seemed to outgrow this habit on her own. She sometimes comes to my bed even now but doesn't want that physical contact any more.

It's a difficult one. I don't have a solution- just wanted to assure you that you aren't alone.

Zahra

Sent from my iPhone

Hi All - Jack always tends to take at least an hour to fall asleep sometimes 2 and a half! He starts off in the bedroom his brother but at some point during the night he will get in my bed where he has to have either his leg through yours, your arm across him or the very least his foot touching you. This is all fine until I need to get out of bed to either have a wee or tell the dog to shut up, the minute i move away from him he sits bolt upright and is in pursuit and then obviously wide awake!!! H e even stirs when next door pull their bathroom light cord at 5am every morning. This is becoming a real problem plus I have R.Arthritis and he practically forces me to sleep in a certain way that is really painfull after an hour or so. Any ideas anyone? Marina x

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I have a similar problem with H often being awake during the night and he is

alerted whenever I get up etc. I wonder whether the room could be soundproofed

to some extent eg thick carpet and thick underlay. heavy curtains, a heavy door

curtain? However I need to listen out for H in case he has a seizure, so I can't

do this at home.

Obviously the real solution would be to inprove the quality of the child's

sleep.... that's the tough one.

Wonder if I could train Henry to wear ear plugs or noise-cancelling headphones

in bed?

Margaret

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> > Hi All - Jack always tends to take at least an hour to fall asleep sometimes

2 and a half! He starts off in the bedroom his brother but at some point during

the night he will get in my bed where he has to have either his leg through

yours, your arm across him or the very least his foot touching you. This is all

fine until I need to get out of bed to either have a wee or tell the dog to shut

up, the minute i move away from him he sits bolt upright and is in pursuit and

then obviously wide awake!!! H e even stirs when next door pull their bathroom

light cord at 5am every morning. This is becoming a real problem plus I have

R.Arthritis and he practically forces me to sleep in a certain way that is

really painfull after an hour or so. Any ideas anyone? Marina x

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Dear Marina,

We had this and I used to have arthritis also. Using my walking stick used to

hurt my arm/shoulder and moving about at night was very difficult (unfortunate

that my bladder was in such a bad way) .... staying still was also very

uncomfortable. We were in a bad state healthwise. Doing a very low cost biomed

on myself has transformed my health - I'm now better than before I was ill

(though careful not to take things for granted ... but I'm quite excited that I

can run 4 miles, that my pulse is the lowest ever and my BP has normalised after

being too since my teens if not forever)

Removing soya helped hugely with sleep for us. Also epsom salt baths and

digestive enzymes (Houston). It continued to improve after dealing with gut

bugs, changing diet etc.

Hope things go well for you.

Best wishes, Sandy

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