Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 oops, last sentence should read " > > The government's consultation ends at noon on 14 February. > > They say they can take away legal aid for education matters because it isn't a matter of life and death (sic). I think many of us know that education matters can feel like a matter of life and death. > > At the moment if parents meet the financial eligibility criteria, legal aid can be obtained to meet the cost of expert reports fro tribunal and for preparation. This has been invaluable and essential for many families in order to be able to go to tribunal and stand any chance of success. > > If this article in the TES is correct http://www.justice.gov.uk/consultations/legal-aid-reform-151110.htm the total cost last year to the exchequer for legal aid for all education matters was £1.7 million. This is peanuts. I think no-one has been fighting or lobbying to keep this, whereas other areas of proposed cuts have a vocal and infuential lobby and have had successes in areas of much less importance.(The Bookstart grant of £30 million per annum was hastily restored after authors and their friends used the media successfully.) > > I have been to my MP amd he has written to Ken e to say that he thinks legal aid should be kept for SEN matters. This was months ago and there doesn't seem to have been a reply. > > The consultation and questionnaire are at http://www.justice.gov.uk/consultations/legal-aid-reform-151110.htm > > (I am only replying to the sections of the questionnaire that I know something about and have left the rest blank eg re criminal matters/property disputes where I know nothing and these areas aren't relevant to my present concerns.) > > Another issue is that the government proposes to tighten the financial eligibility criteria so in future, even if you are on income support, but have either savings or even equity in your house of more than £1,000 you won't be eligible. This is a trap for anyone in their own home but on income support, because under income support rules you are not allowed to increase your mortgage when you are on income support and I would also think that lenders would not be keen to lend money to home-owners in the situation, either, as they would have no way of paying it back. The only option would be to sell up, presumably, and go into private rented accommodation to free up any equity in order to fund the reports for tribunal. The family would be regarded as intentionally homeless and not eligible therefore for public housing. Does a family with a disabled child really need this? There is a chance also to comment on the financial eligibility criteria in the questionnaire.I think eligibility should actually be based on the child's assets and no the parents' but in the current climate the most that can be achieved would be to prevent even more families from being able to access legal aid to get help with SENDIST. > > Margaret > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 , I am talking primarily about appeals to SENDIST. In this case the financial test is the parent's resources. If the parent's resources are low enough they (the parent) can get Legal Aid. Then the parent can get help via legal aid to pay for expert assessments and reports and for a solicitor to do some preparatory work for the tribunal. As it is, there are very very few firms that will do this specialist education law work at the very low legal aid rates which far below the rates charged by lawyers who don't do legal aid work. Margaret > > > > The government's consultation ends at noon on 14 February. > > > > They say they can take away legal aid for education matters because it isn't a > >matter of life and death (sic). I think many of us know that education matters > >can feel like a matter of life and death. > > > > At the moment if parents meet the financial eligibility criteria, legal aid can > >be obtained to meet the cost of expert reports fro tribunal and for preparation. > >This has been invaluable and essential for many families in order to be able to > >go to tribunal and stand any chance of success. > > > > If this article in the TES is correct > >http://www.justice.gov.uk/consultations/legal-aid-reform-151110.htm the total > >cost last year to the exchequer for legal aid for all education matters was £1.7 > >million. This is peanuts. I think no-one has been fighting or lobbying to keep > >this, whereas other areas of proposed cuts have a vocal and infuential lobby and > >have had successes in areas of much less importance.(The Bookstart grant of £30 > >million per annum was hastily restored after authors and their friends used the > >media successfully.) > > > > > > I have been to my MP amd he has written to Ken e to say that he thinks > >legal aid should be kept for SEN matters. This was months ago and there doesn't > >seem to have been a reply. > > > > The consultation and questionnaire are at > >http://www.justice.gov.uk/consultations/legal-aid-reform-151110.htm > > > > (I am only replying to the sections of the questionnaire that I know something > >about and have left the rest blank eg re criminal matters/property disputes > >where I know nothing and these areas aren't relevant to my present concerns.) > > > > Another issue is that the government proposes to tighten the financial > >eligibility criteria so in future, even if you are on income support, but have > >either savings or even equity in your house of more than £1,000 you won't be > >eligible. This is a trap for anyone in their own home but on income support, > >because under income support rules you are not allowed to increase your mortgage > >when you are on income support and I would also think that lenders would not be > >keen to lend money to home-owners in the situation, either, as they would have > >no way of paying it back. The only option would be to sell up, presumably, and > >go into private rented accommodation to free up any equity in order to fund the > >reports for tribunal. The family would be regarded as intentionally homeless and > >not eligible therefore for public housing. Does a family with a disabled child > >really need this? There is a chance also to comment on the financial eligibility > >criteria in the questionnaire.I think eligibility should actually be based on > >the child's assets and no the parents' but in the current climate the most that > >can be achieved would be to prevent even more families from being able to access > >legal aid to get help with SENDIST. > > > > Margaret > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 hi catherine and margaret I have been reading your threads on this matter of legal aid, I received this for my tribunal in may on legal aid solely upon my income as a single parent, its very worrying they may not allow it for educational but purposed but only as a matter of life or death.. did I see you write...with out this help I could never have gone to tribunal; why has ken not replied, this is dreadful? and does this mean by the 14th feb we can no longer apply for legal aid for future tribunals? many thanks Isobel > > > > > > The government's consultation ends at noon on 14 February. > > > > > > They say they can take away legal aid for education matters because it isn't a > > >matter of life and death (sic). I think many of us know that education matters > > >can feel like a matter of life and death. > > > > > > At the moment if parents meet the financial eligibility criteria, legal aid can > > >be obtained to meet the cost of expert reports fro tribunal and for preparation. > > >This has been invaluable and essential for many families in order to be able to > > >go to tribunal and stand any chance of success. > > > > > > If this article in the TES is correct > > >http://www.justice.gov.uk/consultations/legal-aid-reform-151110.htm the total > > >cost last year to the exchequer for legal aid for all education matters was £1.7 > > >million. This is peanuts. I think no-one has been fighting or lobbying to keep > > >this, whereas other areas of proposed cuts have a vocal and infuential lobby and > > >have had successes in areas of much less importance.(The Bookstart grant of £30 > > >million per annum was hastily restored after authors and their friends used the > > >media successfully.) > > > > > > > > > I have been to my MP amd he has written to Ken e to say that he thinks > > >legal aid should be kept for SEN matters. This was months ago and there doesn't > > >seem to have been a reply. > > > > > > The consultation and questionnaire are at > > >http://www.justice.gov.uk/consultations/legal-aid-reform-151110.htm > > > > > > (I am only replying to the sections of the questionnaire that I know something > > >about and have left the rest blank eg re criminal matters/property disputes > > >where I know nothing and these areas aren't relevant to my present concerns.) > > > > > > Another issue is that the government proposes to tighten the financial > > >eligibility criteria so in future, even if you are on income support, but have > > >either savings or even equity in your house of more than £1,000 you won't be > > >eligible. This is a trap for anyone in their own home but on income support, > > >because under income support rules you are not allowed to increase your mortgage > > >when you are on income support and I would also think that lenders would not be > > >keen to lend money to home-owners in the situation, either, as they would have > > >no way of paying it back. The only option would be to sell up, presumably, and > > >go into private rented accommodation to free up any equity in order to fund the > > >reports for tribunal. The family would be regarded as intentionally homeless and > > >not eligible therefore for public housing. Does a family with a disabled child > > >really need this? There is a chance also to comment on the financial eligibility > > >criteria in the questionnaire.I think eligibility should actually be based on > > >the child's assets and no the parents' but in the current climate the most that > > >can be achieved would be to prevent even more families from being able to access > > >legal aid to get help with SENDIST. > > > > > > Margaret > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Please, I beg you, anyone with the time please write to Ken e and copy to their MP outlining why legal aid should be kept for SEN matters and anyone who has had legal aid, please try to write and show why you couldn't have helped your child without it. The questionnaire is also available on -line - will take quite a bit of time to read the consultation document, but there;s a search function and you could limit you replies to the relevant sections of the questionnaire. Posting on this list unless we also write to Ken e and complete the questionnaire isn't going to achieve anything. (Anyone have good media access?) Margaret > > The government's consultation ends at noon on 14 February. > > They say they can take away legal aid for education matters because it isn't a matter of life and death (sic). I think many of us know that education matters can feel like a matter of life and death. > > At the moment if parents meet the financial eligibility criteria, legal aid can be obtained to meet the cost of expert reports fro tribunal and for preparation. This has been invaluable and essential for many families in order to be able to go to tribunal and stand any chance of success. > > If this article in the TES is correct http://www.justice.gov.uk/consultations/legal-aid-reform-151110.htm the total cost last year to the exchequer for legal aid for all education matters was £1.7 million. This is peanuts. I think no-one has been fighting or lobbying to keep this, whereas other areas of proposed cuts have a vocal and infuential lobby and have had successes in areas of much less importance.(The Bookstart grant of £30 million per annum was hastily restored after authors and their friends used the media successfully.) > > I have been to my MP amd he has written to Ken e to say that he thinks legal aid should be kept for SEN matters. This was months ago and there doesn't seem to have been a reply. > > The consultation and questionnaire are at http://www.justice.gov.uk/consultations/legal-aid-reform-151110.htm > > (I am only replying to the sections of the questionnaire that I know something about and have left the rest blank eg re criminal matters/property disputes where I know nothing and these areas aren't relevant to my present concerns.) > > Another issue is that the government proposes to tighten the financial eligibility criteria so in future, even if you are on income support, but have either savings or even equity in your house of more than £1,000 you won't be eligible. This is a trap for anyone in their own home but on income support, because under income support rules you are not allowed to increase your mortgage when you are on income support and I would also think that lenders would not be keen to lend money to home-owners in the situation, either, as they would have no way of paying it back. The only option would be to sell up, presumably, and go into private rented accommodation to free up any equity in order to fund the reports for tribunal. The family would be regarded as intentionally homeless and not eligible therefore for public housing. Does a family with a disabled child really need this? There is a chance also to comment on the financial eligibility criteria in the questionnaire.I think eligibility should actually be based on the child's assets and no the parents' but in the current climate the most that can be achieved would be to prevent even more families from being able to access legal aid to get help with SENDIST. > > Margaret > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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