Where are all the bulls?!?!?!?!?!?

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I am a member from Virginia. I am having a horrible time getting my Jersey

cows bred! When the vets find out what I do (cowshares) they always end up

showing up 24 hours AFTER I call them..... local dairymen are more than willing

to lease a bull....but again, same situation.... when they realize I'm THAT evil

person who's " putting them out of business " they no longer seem to need to

pasture out their bull!!! Does anyone out there know of any Virginia farmers who

need/would be willing to lease a young bull (any breed at this point!) out for a

month or two? On the other hand, are there any A.I. techs out in the Shenandoah

Valley who would be willing to travel for a few cows?

Thanks!!!

[Guest guest]

I have an ignorant question. How easy/difficult is it to become an AI tech? RobinTo: RawDairy From: petjunky@...Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 01:23:08 +0000Subject: Where are all the bulls?!?!?!?!?!?

Hello,

I am a member from Virginia. I am having a horrible time getting my Jersey cows bred! When the vets find out what I do (cowshares) they always end up showing up 24 hours AFTER I call them..... local dairymen are more than willing to lease a bull....but again, same situation.... when they realize I'm THAT evil person who's "putting them out of business" they no longer seem to need to pasture out their bull!!! Does anyone out there know of any Virginia farmers who need/would be willing to lease a young bull (any breed at this point!) out for a month or two? On the other hand, are there any A.I. techs out in the Shenandoah Valley who would be willing to travel for a few cows?

Thanks!!!

[Guest guest]

Doesn't seem to be a lot to it.... But the equipment isn't always easily attainable where I am!Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. CellularFrom: Robin Searcy Henson Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:32:32 -0700To: RawDairy<rawdairy >Subject: RE: Where are all the bulls?!?!?!?!?!? I have an ignorant question. How easy/difficult is it to become an AI tech? RobinTo: RawDairy From: petjunkyDate: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 01:23:08 +0000Subject: Where are all the bulls?!?!?!?!?!? Hello, I am a member from Virginia. I am having a horrible time getting my Jersey cows bred! When the vets find out what I do (cowshares) they always end up showing up 24 hours AFTER I call them..... local dairymen are more than willing to lease a bull....but again, same situation.... when they realize I'm THAT evil person who's "putting them out of business" they no longer seem to need to pasture out their bull!!! Does anyone out there know of any Virginia farmers who need/would be willing to lease a young bull (any breed at this point!) out for a month or two? On the other hand, are there any A.I. techs out in the Shenandoah Valley who would be willing to travel for a few cows? Thanks!!!

[Guest guest]

Where are you exactly in Virginia? I lease my Jersey bulls occasionally. I found that AI is a problem

often simply because there is a short time frame. Many, if not most, large

dairies either keep a tank and the herdsman does the AI or they use heat

synchronization.

My vet has been great. But AI is not his

thing at all.

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From: RawDairy [mailto:RawDairy ] On Behalf Of petjunky

Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009

9:23 PM

To: RawDairy

Subject: Where are all

the bulls?!?!?!?!?!?

Hello,

I am a member from Virginia.

I am having a horrible time getting my Jersey

cows bred! When the vets find out what I do (cowshares) they always end up

showing up 24 hours AFTER I call them..... local dairymen are more than willing

to lease a bull....but again, same situation.... when they realize I'm

THAT evil person who's " putting them out of business " they no longer

seem to need to pasture out their bull!!! Does anyone out there know of any

Virginia farmers who need/would be willing to lease a young bull (any breed at

this point!) out for a month or two? On the other hand, are there any A.I.

techs out in the Shenandoah Valley who would

be willing to travel for a few cows?

Thanks!!!

[Guest guest]

I am in Lexington.Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. CellularFrom: " " Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:50:59 -0400To: <RawDairy >Subject: RE: Where are all the bulls?!?!?!?!?!? Where are you exactly in Virginia? I lease my Jersey bulls occasionally. I found that AI is a problem often simply because there is a short time frame. Many, if not most, large dairies either keep a tank and the herdsman does the AI or they use heat synchronization. My vet has been great. But AI is not his thing at all. Missed FRESH??? Come and see it August 15, at 6:00 at PVCC and have the opportunity for a panel discussion with local food advocates afterwards at a coffee and dessert reception. Go to FRESHthemovie.com and buy your $10 tickets or reply to this email for more information. From: RawDairy [mailto:RawDairy ] On Behalf Of petjunkySent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 9:23 PMTo: RawDairy Subject: Where are all the bulls?!?!?!?!?!? Hello, I am a member from Virginia. I am having a horrible time getting my Jersey cows bred! When the vets find out what I do (cowshares) they always end up showing up 24 hours AFTER I call them..... local dairymen are more than willing to lease a bull....but again, same situation.... when they realize I'm THAT evil person who's " putting them out of business " they no longer seem to need to pasture out their bull!!! Does anyone out there know of any Virginia farmers who need/would be willing to lease a young bull (any breed at this point!) out for a month or two? On the other hand, are there any A.I. techs out in the Shenandoah Valley who would be willing to travel for a few cows? Thanks!!!

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Its the semen tanks that make it so expensive. Sometimes you can lease tanks, but I've been on the list for 2 months and nothing yet.Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. CellularFrom: "Robin Searcy Henson" Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:56:20 -0700To: <RawDairy >Subject: Re: Where are all the bulls?!?!?!?!?!? I've seen it done on "Dirtiest Jobs" and "Jackass" and it doesn't SEEM that hard.. Couldn't you buy the equipment online? I probably don't know what I'm talking about, but I've been wondering. Robin Where are all the bulls?!?!?!?!?!? Hello, I am a member from Virginia. I am having a horrible time getting my Jersey cows bred! When the vets find out what I do (cowshares) they always end up showing up 24 hours AFTER I call them..... local dairymen are more than willing to lease a bull....but again, same situation.... when they realize I'm THAT evil person who's "putting them out of business" they no longer seem to need to pasture out their bull!!! Does anyone out there know of any Virginia farmers who need/would be willing to lease a young bull (any breed at this point!) out for a month or two? On the other hand, are there any A.I. techs out in the Shenandoah Valley who would be willing to travel for a few cows? Thanks!!!

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When I was in college, they offered a 4 day class, and it was all day all 4 days. It's not so much the equipement, it's the fact that someone has to maintain a semen tank with liquid nitrogen and the semen for the specific animals that someone is going to use.I know that COBA and ABS (2 of the outfits that do the collection, etc) had young sire programs and if you weren't picky about what bulls your cows were bred to it was a really good deal.The other equipment is mainly OB sleeves, the straws, and the syringes to push everything through the straws with. Almost any livestock equipment place sells what is needed.Deb FerrellTo: RawDairy Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 9:35:17 PMSubject: Re: Where are all the bulls?!?!?!?!?!?

Doesn't seem to be a lot to it.... But the equipment isn't always easily attainable where I am!Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. CellularFrom: Robin Searcy Henson Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:32:32 -0700To: RawDairy<rawdairy@yahoogroup s.com>Subject: RE: Where are all the bulls?!?!?!? !?!? I have an ignorant question. How easy/difficult is it to become an AI tech? RobinTo: RawDairy@yahoogroup s.comFrom: petjunkyyahoo (DOT) comDate: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 01:23:08 +0000Subject: Where are all the bulls?!?!?!? !?!? Hello, I am a member from Virginia. I am having a horrible time getting my Jersey cows bred! When the vets find out what I do (cowshares) they always end up showing up 24 hours AFTER I call them..... local dairymen are more than willing to lease a bull....but again, same situation... . when they realize I'm THAT evil person who's "putting them out of business" they no longer seem to need to pasture out their bull!!! Does anyone out there know of any Virginia farmers who need/would be willing to lease a young bull (any breed at this point!) out for a month or two? On the other hand, are there any A.I. techs out in the Shenandoah Valley who would be willing to travel for a few cows? Thanks!!!

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I have AI cows for over 15 years and trained on farm AI to lots of large dairies. AI is not something you learn over night. The process is simple but it takes lots of practice. I have taught people to AI in a day but to be good at it takes a while all cows are different have different shaped reproductive tracks. Some are easy and the rod nearly threads its self. Others takes lots of manipulation. The basic gist of the deal is like threading a breeding rod through a turkey neck without looking. It looks real easy from the out side but what your doing is, with the arm inside the cow your holding on to the cervix then with the outside arm your applying light pressure forward and manipulating the cervix over the rod. Each straw contains about 14 million sperm seems like a lot but its not. This semen needs to be deposited just past the cervix in the uterine body to

far back and the semen will be trapped in the cervix to far forward and semen will be deposited in only one of the uterine horns. So again from the outside it looks easy but it does take practice to know how to get through and to know when your through the cervix. A tank will hold nitrogen for several weeks and months depending on the tank. The cost of the tank is your biggest expense. then to maintain nitrogen will be the other big cost. If you breed your cows seasonally you can let the tank go dry after all the semen is used. if you synchronize your cows you can breed right out of a shipper tank that your semen will be shipped in it will last for 10 days in the shipper tank. AlbertSubject: Re:

Where are all the bulls?!?!?!?!?!?To: RawDairy Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 1:59 AM

When I was in college, they offered a 4 day class, and it was all day all 4 days. It's not so much the equipement, it's the fact that someone has to maintain a semen tank with liquid nitrogen and the semen for the specific animals that someone is going to use.I know that COBA and ABS (2 of the outfits that do the collection, etc) had young sire programs and if you weren't picky about what bulls your cows were bred to it was a really good deal.The other equipment is mainly OB sleeves, the straws, and the syringes to push everything through the straws with. Almost any livestock equipment place sells what is needed.Deb FerrellFrom: "petjunkyyahoo (DOT) com" <petjunkyyahoo (DOT) com>To: RawDairy@yahoogroup s..comSent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 9:35:17 PMSubject: Re: Where are all the bulls?!?!?!? !?!?

Doesn't seem to be a lot to it.... But the equipment isn't always easily attainable where I am!Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. CellularFrom: Robin Searcy Henson Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:32:32 -0700To: RawDairy<rawdairy@yahoogroup s.com>Subject: RE: Where are all the bulls?!?!?!? !?!? I have an ignorant question. How easy/difficult is it to become an AI tech? RobinTo: RawDairy@yahoogroup s.comFrom: petjunkyyahoo (DOT) comDate: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 01:23:08 +0000Subject: Where are all the bulls?!?!?!? !?!? Hello, I am a member from Virginia. I am having a horrible time getting my Jersey cows bred! When the vets find out what I do (cowshares) they always end up showing up 24 hours AFTER I call them..... local dairymen are more than willing to lease a bull....but again, same situation... . when they realize I'm THAT evil person who's "putting them out of business" they no longer seem to need to pasture out their bull!!! Does anyone out there know of any Virginia farmers who need/would be willing to lease a young bull (any breed at this point!) out for a month or two? On the other hand, are there any A.I. techs out in the Shenandoah Valley who would be willing to travel for a few cows? Thanks!!!

[Guest guest]

Okay, so now we know! I looked the technique up online as taught to vet students and realized nothing is as simple as it seems!

Robin

Where are all the bulls?!?!?!? !?!?

Hello, I am a member from Virginia. I am having a horrible time getting my Jersey cows bred! When the vets find out what I do (cowshares) they always end up showing up 24 hours AFTER I call them..... local dairymen are more than willing to lease a bull....but again, same situation... . when they realize I'm THAT evil person who's "putting them out of business" they no longer seem to need to pasture out their bull!!! Does anyone out there know of any Virginia farmers who need/would be willing to lease a young bull (any breed at this point!) out for a month or two? On the other hand, are there any A.I. techs out in the Shenandoah Valley who would be willing to travel for a few cows? Thanks!!!

[Guest guest]

Why don't you just raise a bull calf for breeding. I do it every year. I get my bulls to breed at about 10 to 11 months and then when the cows preg check pos. I butcher the bull. Raise another for next year.

Chris

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I am raising a bull calf this year, but he isn't going to get the job done anytime soon!Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. CellularFrom: "Christipaul Farm" Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:34:51 -0700To: <RawDairy >Subject: Re: Where are all the bulls?!?!?!?!?!? Why don't you just raise a bull calf for breeding. I do it every year. I get my bulls to breed at about 10 to 11 months and then when the cows preg check pos. I butcher the bull. Raise another for next year.