Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Hi , And again you are continuing with your accusations in public..... I have changed the subject line to separate this from the other normal discussion. Your accusations against me and others were getting more and more ridiculous and simply waisting my time, that is why I stopped responding to them and also to give the situation time to calm down. Let me give an example. Based on a suggestion from Tim Bolen, I started to plan a non-profit " Rife Association " as an independent entity to organise the Rife world and also allow the Rife manufactures to work together to counter and help avoid situations like what Jim Folsom is going through. Additionally, it would serve as an independent platform to organise scientific research into the original MOR frequencies using the Ergonom microscope. The idea being to confirm the original research work of Royal Rife. Instead of supporting the idea, you made all kinds of accusations against me that I somehow wanted to " get into bed " with some shady Rife dealer and throw out all objectivity to earn a few dollars. Anybody who knows me will see how utterly ridiculous that is. You based this accusation on the fact that I was also planning to help finance the Rife Forum by selling a few banner adverts (a common way to finance forums, websites, etc.) and you were somehow sure I was going to start releasing all kinds of invented stories based on backhanded " dark alley " agreements!!! In reality, this " Rife Association " was to have at least 7 board members and all decisions would be decided on together. I answered all your accusations, only to hear even more ridiculous ones from you in return...... let me say this clearly. You have been very clearly making personal attacks against other members and myself. You were asked to stop, which you even agreed to do, but then continued anyway. I can release all the messages relating to this issue in one place so that everybody can see what really happened (if anyone is interested) and judge for themselves! It will however take a couple of weeks to do this as I have other priorities at the moment. But with the tone of even this last message from you, you are simply showing that you are continuing to accuse people of being liars and cowards, etc. rather than considering that maybe you could have misinterpreted something. I am getting the impression that in your eyes, everybody is guilty until catagorically proved innocent. The thing is, anybody who does confront you is attacked again and again as you are doing to me. You never stop your debating against people and then wonder why people do not want to openly confront you, but complain to me instead. There are better things to do with our time then this. The whole situation stems from you making false accusations about the intents of others including myself. You may have believed those accusations yourself, but that does not make them correct. Time and again I have answered your accusations truthfully only to be confronted with even more accusations from you which are sometimes even more ridiculous. Unfortunately, you never stop and it just uses up more and more of my time answering this junk. this is your last warning! Stop making false accusations about others and treat people with respect. I am not saying you cannot debate, I do say you have to treat people with respect. Calling people all kinds of names and making all kinds of baseless accusations is not doing that. Instead of accusing people publically that have some " dark alley " agenda, try simply asking them what their plans are in a friendly way. I will be out of town for a week attending a trade fair so I have no time to debate this further now. If I am slow in answering your further accusations, which will undoubtably come, it is because my time is extremely limited in the next 7 days. Regards Moderator > > > Hi , > > while it is true that you are still moderated on this > > Yahoogroup, that does not mean you are somehow muzzled. I > > did not remove anything from your message and also released > > it without delay. > > > > The truth is, some of your posts in the past were > > repeatably breaching the rules relating to respect towards > > other members and I was being inundated with complaints > > about your posts. Breach of these rules are certainly a > > legitimate reason to put you on moderation. > > > > You received several warnings to stop this and you even > > stated in a message to me that you would stop this. > > Unfortunately, you then continued with this behaviour which > > was the reason you lost your trusted membership status on > > the Rife Forum as you had breached that trust by not keeping > > to what you had agreed to. Believe me, I had a number of > > members who wanted you banned altogether, yet I see that you > > have made a lot of positive contributions to the Rife world > > as well. Here is part of a message I sent to you on the > > subject in October 2009: > > > > " Hi , > > your recent behaviour towards other forum members and > > myself is incompatible with the privilege of the title > > " Trusted Member " . A trusted member does not make repeated > > personal attacks on other members and allowing you to keep > > such a title under such circumstances would be detrimental > > to the reputation of the forum. > > > > About 10 well known members of this forum wrote to me > > strongly suggesting I at least remove that title (some > > wanted you to be banned) until your behaviour towards other > > members improves significantly. I have been resisting such > > calls up until now, but your posts in the " Socialised > > Medicine " thread simply confirmed the need for this > > action. " > > > > What you obviously still see as " anonymous dark alley > > cohorts " is in reality just a number of members not liking > > the way you attacked then personally in clear breach of > > forum rules. As said many times before, it is fine to > > challenge a concept or idea, but always treat other members > > with complete respect. That is what this was all about - > > nothing more. > > > > In fact, your posts have improved considerably since then > > and I was already considering restoring your Trusted > > Membership on the Rife Forum and even removing your > > moderation here as well. It is up to you how you continue to > > behave towards other members. Be responsible and those > > limits will be removed again. > > > > Regards > > > > > > Moderator > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 : You are so incredibly nice to in spite of the fact that he is perpetually aggressive and bullying, and seems to think that the world revolves around him and his noble " truth " about rife technology. As you have pointed out it is the same theme which he uses to justify his attacks over and over again. Your responses are always so measured and appropriate...but frankly from the point of view of what he is truly contributing to the forum... which appears to be more disruption than healthy observation and debate...I think it is time that you tell him to start his own rife forum which was originally suggested a year ago because of this very same behavior. In addition, to support the continued effective functioning of the forum if you were to completely suspend him at this point from this rife forum...I think it would be perfectly appropriate...There is only so much time that you can spend dealing with the same tired bullying that has become so well known for. As for you , start your own forum. There you will have total control and you can expound and develop your theories, lay out your judgments unimpeded, and completely control the show. And for those who enjoy 's style and process you will have it all in one nice neat space on the Internet. As for the rest of us lets move on. Markcg Hi , And again you are continuing with your accusations in public..... I have changed the subject line to separate this from the other normal discussion. Your accusations against me and others were getting more and more ridiculous and simply waisting my time, that is why I stopped responding to them and also to give the situation time to calm down. Let me give an example. Based on a suggestion from Tim Bolen, I started to plan a non-profit " Rife Association " as an independent entity to organise the Rife world and also allow the Rife manufactures to work together to counter and help avoid situations like what Jim Folsom is going through. Additionally, it would serve as an independent platform to organise scientific research into the original MOR frequencies using the Ergonom microscope. The idea being to confirm the original research work of Royal Rife. Instead of supporting the idea, you made all kinds of accusations against me that I somehow wanted to " get into bed " with some shady Rife dealer and throw out all objectivity to earn a few dollars. Anybody who knows me will see how utterly ridiculous that is. You based this accusation on the fact that I was also planning to help finance the Rife Forum by selling a few banner adverts (a common way to finance forums, websites, etc.) and you were somehow sure I was going to start releasing all kinds of invented stories based on backhanded " dark alley " agreements!!! In reality, this " Rife Association " was to have at least 7 board members and all decisions would be decided on together. I answered all your accusations, only to hear even more ridiculous ones from you in return...... let me say this clearly. You have been very clearly making personal attacks against other members and myself. You were asked to stop, which you even agreed to do, but then continued anyway. I can release all the messages relating to this issue in one place so that everybody can see what really happened (if anyone is interested) and judge for themselves! It will however take a couple of weeks to do this as I have other priorities at the moment. But with the tone of even this last message from you, you are simply showing that you are continuing to accuse people of being liars and cowards, etc. rather than considering that maybe you could have misinterpreted something. I am getting the impression that in your eyes, everybody is guilty until catagorically proved innocent. The thing is, anybody who does confront you is attacked again and again as you are doing to me. You never stop your debating against people and then wonder why people do not want to openly confront you, but complain to me instead. There are better things to do with our time then this. The whole situation stems from you making false accusations about the intents of others including myself. You may have believed those accusations yourself, but that does not make them correct. Time and again I have answered your accusations truthfully only to be confronted with even more accusations from you which are sometimes even more ridiculous. Unfortunately, you never stop and it just uses up more and more of my time answering this junk. this is your last warning! Stop making false accusations about others and treat people with respect. I am not saying you cannot debate, I do say you have to treat people with respect. Calling people all kinds of names and making all kinds of baseless accusations is not doing that. Instead of accusing people publically that have some " dark alley " agenda, try simply asking them what their plans are in a friendly way. I will be out of town for a week attending a trade fair so I have no time to debate this further now. If I am slow in answering your further accusations, which will undoubtably come, it is because my time is extremely limited in the next 7 days. Regards Moderator > > > Hi , > > while it is true that you are still moderated on this > > Yahoogroup, that does not mean you are somehow muzzled. I > > did not remove anything from your message and also released > > it without delay. > > > > The truth is, some of your posts in the past were > > repeatably breaching the rules relating to respect towards > > other members and I was being inundated with complaints > > about your posts. Breach of these rules are certainly a > > legitimate reason to put you on moderation. > > > > You received several warnings to stop this and you even > > stated in a message to me that you would stop this. > > Unfortunately, you then continued with this behaviour which > > was the reason you lost your trusted membership status on > > the Rife Forum as you had breached that trust by not keeping > > to what you had agreed to. Believe me, I had a number of > > members who wanted you banned altogether, yet I see that you > > have made a lot of positive contributions to the Rife world > > as well. Here is part of a message I sent to you on the > > subject in October 2009: > > > > " Hi , > > your recent behaviour towards other forum members and > > myself is incompatible with the privilege of the title > > " Trusted Member " . A trusted member does not make repeated > > personal attacks on other members and allowing you to keep > > such a title under such circumstances would be detrimental > > to the reputation of the forum. > > > > About 10 well known members of this forum wrote to me > > strongly suggesting I at least remove that title (some > > wanted you to be banned) until your behaviour towards other > > members improves significantly. I have been resisting such > > calls up until now, but your posts in the " Socialised > > Medicine " thread simply confirmed the need for this > > action. " > > > > What you obviously still see as " anonymous dark alley > > cohorts " is in reality just a number of members not liking > > the way you attacked then personally in clear breach of > > forum rules. As said many times before, it is fine to > > challenge a concept or idea, but always treat other members > > with complete respect. That is what this was all about - > > nothing more. > > > > In fact, your posts have improved considerably since then > > and I was already considering restoring your Trusted > > Membership on the Rife Forum and even removing your > > moderation here as well. It is up to you how you continue to > > behave towards other members. Be responsible and those > > limits will be removed again. > > > > Regards > > > > > > Moderator > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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