Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Maybe our VA has found there Nepherologist as the job is no longer listed. > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > If you have no HTN and no medical disorders due to high aldos, then > > > medical > > > > > standards should be changed such that you aldos range falls into normal > > > > > range! > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that high aldos indicates some kind of sexual hormones > > > > > disorders...like high or low testastrone in men and I don't know what > > > in > > > > > women!!! > > > > > > > > > > Max. > > > > > > > > > > So what happens when you have normal sodium in both the 24 hour and one > > > > > time spot but your aldosterone levels are high. > > > > > My doctor always tests my aldsoterone with my renin and renin is where > > > it > > > > > should be but aldosterone not. Should aldosterone also be checked urine > > > or > > > > > just blood. > > > > > Pam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 If u are doing OK on DASH and Spiro no reason to test.Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension So what happens when you have normal sodium in both the 24 hour and one time spot but your aldosterone levels are high.My doctor always tests my aldsoterone with my renin and renin is where it should be but aldosterone not. Should aldosterone also be checked urine or just blood. Pam Sodium (Na) in Urine A test for sodium in the urine is a 24-hour test or a one-time (spot) test that checks how much sodium is in the urine. Sodium is both an electrolyte and a mineral. It helps keep the water (the amount of fluid inside and outside the body's cells) and electrolyte balance of the body. Sodium is also important in how nerves and muscles work. Most of the sodium in the body (about 85%) is found in blood and lymph fluid. Sodium levels in the body are partly controlled by a hormone called aldosterone, which is made by the adrenal glands. Aldosterone levels tell the kidneys when to hold sodium in the body instead of passing it in the urine. (See a picture of the adrenal glands or the kidneys .) Small amounts of sodium are also lost through the skin when you sweat. Most foods have sodium naturally in them or as an ingredient in cooking. Sodium is found in table salt as sodium chloride or in baking soda as sodium bicarbonate. Many medicines and other products also have sodium in them, including laxatives, aspirin, mouthwash, and toothpaste. Too much sodium in the diet may raise blood pressure in some people. For those who have high blood pressure, eating foods with a lot of sodium makes their chance of heart disease, stroke, and kidney damage higher. Heart failure gets worse when too much sodium is eaten. It increases the amount of water the body holds in and this causes swelling of the legs and hands. Some people have problems when they eat more than 4,000 milligrams (mg) of sodium per day. Low sodium levels are uncommon and most often occur as a side effect of taking medicines that make you urinate more, such as diuretics. Severe diarrhea or vomiting or heavy sweating may also cause low sodium levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Ultra sound is worthless to look for adrenal bumps unless they are really big los. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Thanks. If after 4 years of CT scans on my adrenal gland and two ultrasounds,a tumor is there, it is really in there deep. I am seeing a endrocine surgeon for high parathryoid levels and he is also exploring a tumor in my adrenals. So we shall see. Pam Pam, this site might give you some ideas: http://www.healthblurbs.com/aldosterone-high-and-low-level-causes-hyperaldosteronism-or-hypoaldosteronism-disorders/ > For women it would be estrogen and mine is completely normal. > I have had several cat scans which show no tumor on the adrenals and yet > aldosterone ranges from 35 - 70 with me. Normal range is 8-18 this is > also am aldosterone levels > Pam > > > > > ** > > > > > > ** > > If you have no HTN and no medical disorders due to high aldos, then medical > > standards should be changed such that you aldos range falls into normal > > range! > > > > I suspect that high aldos indicates some kind of sexual hormones > > disorders...like high or low testastrone in men and I don't know what in > > women!!! > > > > Max. > > > > So what happens when you have normal sodium in both the 24 hour and one > > time spot but your aldosterone levels are high. > > My doctor always tests my aldsoterone with my renin and renin is where it > > should be but aldosterone not. Should aldosterone also be checked urine or > > just blood. > > Pam > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 So what happens IF we stop testing and my numbers, un be knowst to us, continue to climb and my bp continues to go down with the Spiro and dashingRight now I can't eat as most foods are making me ill from the smell and taste, I live nauses with pains in my joints, can't sleep, always constipated,have a kidney stone in my right kidney, my thryoid numbers as well as my parathryoid continue to grow along with other issues and my aldosterone numbers increase The ultrasounds were done my the nephrologist for his own information.  If u are doing OK on DASH and Spiro no reason to test.Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in Difficult Hypertension  So what happens when you have normal sodium in both the 24 hour and one time spot but your aldosterone levels are high.My doctor always tests my aldsoterone with my renin and renin is where it should be but aldosterone not. Should aldosterone also be checked urine or just blood. Pam  Sodium (Na) in Urine A test for sodium in the urine is a 24-hour test or a one-time (spot) test that checks how much sodium is in the urine. Sodium is both an electrolyte and a mineral. It helps keep the water (the amount of fluid inside and outside the body's cells) and electrolyte balance of the body. Sodium is also important in how nerves and muscles work. Most of the sodium in the body (about 85%) is found in blood and lymph fluid. Sodium levels in the body are partly controlled by a hormone called aldosterone, which is made by the adrenal glands. Aldosterone levels tell the kidneys when to hold sodium in the body instead of passing it in the urine. (See a picture of the adrenal glands or the kidneys .) Small amounts of sodium are also lost through the skin when you sweat. Most foods have sodium naturally in them or as an ingredient in cooking. Sodium is found in table salt as sodium chloride or in baking soda as sodium bicarbonate. Many medicines and other products also have sodium in them, including laxatives, aspirin, mouthwash, and toothpaste. Too much sodium in the diet may raise blood pressure in some people. For those who have high blood pressure, eating foods with a lot of sodium makes their chance of heart disease, stroke, and kidney damage higher. Heart failure gets worse when too much sodium is eaten. It increases the amount of water the body holds in and this causes swelling of the legs and hands. Some people have problems when they eat more than 4,000 milligrams (mg) of sodium per day. Low sodium levels are uncommon and most often occur as a side effect of taking medicines that make you urinate more, such as diuretics. Severe diarrhea or vomiting or heavy sweating may also cause low sodium levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Francis, Francis, Francis you really know how to ruin my night. I called on June 30 to have my Spiro RX rewritten and when it was referred to Nephology Dr. Jahangir Momin referred it back to DR. Webster! He was the one I locked horns with back in Apr.! Oh well, it will be easy to overwhelm him with brillance if he will just listen! (As I used to say when driving the Bus, " Sit down, Shur-up and hold on! " ) You'll probably hear the explosion in Enfield! - 64 yo morb. ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank & testicle pain. I have decided against an adrenalectomy at this time since Meds. are working so well. Current BP: 130/77 Other Issues/Opportunities: COPD w/ft Oxygen, OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2. and PTSD Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 15 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 75 MG. > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > If you have no HTN and no medical disorders due to high aldos, then > > > > medical > > > > > > standards should be changed such that you aldos range falls into normal > > > > > > range! > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that high aldos indicates some kind of sexual hormones > > > > > > disorders...like high or low testastrone in men and I don't know what > > > > in > > > > > > women!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Max. > > > > > > > > > > > > So what happens when you have normal sodium in both the 24 hour and one > > > > > > time spot but your aldosterone levels are high. > > > > > > My doctor always tests my aldsoterone with my renin and renin is where > > > > it > > > > > > should be but aldosterone not. Should aldosterone also be checked urine > > > > or > > > > > > just blood. > > > > > > Pam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 His goal should be to treat u not him. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension So what happens IF we stop testing and my numbers, un be knowst to us, continue to climb and my bp continues to go down with the Spiro and dashingRight now I can't eat as most foods are making me ill from the smell and taste, I live nauses with pains in my joints, can't sleep, always constipated,have a kidney stone in my right kidney, my thryoid numbers as well as my parathryoid continue to grow along with other issues and my aldosterone numbers increase The ultrasounds were done my the nephrologist for his own information. If u are doing OK on DASH and Spiro no reason to test.Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in Difficult Hypertension So what happens when you have normal sodium in both the 24 hour and one time spot but your aldosterone levels are high.My doctor always tests my aldsoterone with my renin and renin is where it should be but aldosterone not. Should aldosterone also be checked urine or just blood. Pam Sodium (Na) in Urine A test for sodium in the urine is a 24-hour test or a one-time (spot) test that checks how much sodium is in the urine. Sodium is both an electrolyte and a mineral. It helps keep the water (the amount of fluid inside and outside the body's cells) and electrolyte balance of the body. Sodium is also important in how nerves and muscles work. Most of the sodium in the body (about 85%) is found in blood and lymph fluid. Sodium levels in the body are partly controlled by a hormone called aldosterone, which is made by the adrenal glands. Aldosterone levels tell the kidneys when to hold sodium in the body instead of passing it in the urine. (See a picture of the adrenal glands or the kidneys .) Small amounts of sodium are also lost through the skin when you sweat. Most foods have sodium naturally in them or as an ingredient in cooking. Sodium is found in table salt as sodium chloride or in baking soda as sodium bicarbonate. Many medicines and other products also have sodium in them, including laxatives, aspirin, mouthwash, and toothpaste. Too much sodium in the diet may raise blood pressure in some people. For those who have high blood pressure, eating foods with a lot of sodium makes their chance of heart disease, stroke, and kidney damage higher. Heart failure gets worse when too much sodium is eaten. It increases the amount of water the body holds in and this causes swelling of the legs and hands. Some people have problems when they eat more than 4,000 milligrams (mg) of sodium per day. Low sodium levels are uncommon and most often occur as a side effect of taking medicines that make you urinate more, such as diuretics. Severe diarrhea or vomiting or heavy sweating may also cause low sodium levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 If BP going up then need to dDASH MORE(but need to check urine to see where you are!Or take more Spiro. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension So what happens IF we stop testing and my numbers, un be knowst to us, continue to climb and my bp continues to go down with the Spiro and dashingRight now I can't eat as most foods are making me ill from the smell and taste, I live nauses with pains in my joints, can't sleep, always constipated,have a kidney stone in my right kidney, my thryoid numbers as well as my parathryoid continue to grow along with other issues and my aldosterone numbers increase The ultrasounds were done my the nephrologist for his own information. If u are doing OK on DASH and Spiro no reason to test.Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in Difficult Hypertension So what happens when you have normal sodium in both the 24 hour and one time spot but your aldosterone levels are high.My doctor always tests my aldsoterone with my renin and renin is where it should be but aldosterone not. Should aldosterone also be checked urine or just blood. Pam Sodium (Na) in Urine A test for sodium in the urine is a 24-hour test or a one-time (spot) test that checks how much sodium is in the urine. Sodium is both an electrolyte and a mineral. It helps keep the water (the amount of fluid inside and outside the body's cells) and electrolyte balance of the body. Sodium is also important in how nerves and muscles work. Most of the sodium in the body (about 85%) is found in blood and lymph fluid. Sodium levels in the body are partly controlled by a hormone called aldosterone, which is made by the adrenal glands. Aldosterone levels tell the kidneys when to hold sodium in the body instead of passing it in the urine. (See a picture of the adrenal glands or the kidneys .) Small amounts of sodium are also lost through the skin when you sweat. Most foods have sodium naturally in them or as an ingredient in cooking. Sodium is found in table salt as sodium chloride or in baking soda as sodium bicarbonate. Many medicines and other products also have sodium in them, including laxatives, aspirin, mouthwash, and toothpaste. Too much sodium in the diet may raise blood pressure in some people. For those who have high blood pressure, eating foods with a lot of sodium makes their chance of heart disease, stroke, and kidney damage higher. Heart failure gets worse when too much sodium is eaten. It increases the amount of water the body holds in and this causes swelling of the legs and hands. Some people have problems when they eat more than 4,000 milligrams (mg) of sodium per day. Low sodium levels are uncommon and most often occur as a side effect of taking medicines that make you urinate more, such as diuretics. Severe diarrhea or vomiting or heavy sweating may also cause low sodium levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 that is what he is trying to do  His goal should be to treat u not him. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in Difficult Hypertension  So what happens IF we stop testing and my numbers, un be knowst to us, continue to climb and my bp continues to go down with the Spiro and dashingRight now I can't eat as most foods are making me ill from the smell and taste, I live nauses with pains in my joints, can't sleep, always constipated,have a kidney stone in my right kidney, my thryoid numbers as well as my parathryoid continue to grow along with other issues and my aldosterone numbers increase The ultrasounds were done my the nephrologist for his own information.  If u are doing OK on DASH and Spiro no reason to test.Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in Difficult Hypertension  So what happens when you have normal sodium in both the 24 hour and one time spot but your aldosterone levels are high.My doctor always tests my aldsoterone with my renin and renin is where it should be but aldosterone not. Should aldosterone also be checked urine or just blood. Pam  Sodium (Na) in Urine A test for sodium in the urine is a 24-hour test or a one-time (spot) test that checks how much sodium is in the urine. Sodium is both an electrolyte and a mineral. It helps keep the water (the amount of fluid inside and outside the body's cells) and electrolyte balance of the body. Sodium is also important in how nerves and muscles work. Most of the sodium in the body (about 85%) is found in blood and lymph fluid. Sodium levels in the body are partly controlled by a hormone called aldosterone, which is made by the adrenal glands. Aldosterone levels tell the kidneys when to hold sodium in the body instead of passing it in the urine. (See a picture of the adrenal glands or the kidneys .) Small amounts of sodium are also lost through the skin when you sweat. Most foods have sodium naturally in them or as an ingredient in cooking. Sodium is found in table salt as sodium chloride or in baking soda as sodium bicarbonate. Many medicines and other products also have sodium in them, including laxatives, aspirin, mouthwash, and toothpaste. Too much sodium in the diet may raise blood pressure in some people. For those who have high blood pressure, eating foods with a lot of sodium makes their chance of heart disease, stroke, and kidney damage higher. Heart failure gets worse when too much sodium is eaten. It increases the amount of water the body holds in and this causes swelling of the legs and hands. Some people have problems when they eat more than 4,000 milligrams (mg) of sodium per day. Low sodium levels are uncommon and most often occur as a side effect of taking medicines that make you urinate more, such as diuretics. Severe diarrhea or vomiting or heavy sweating may also cause low sodium levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Considering I just told you I cant eat there is only so much dashing I can do on water, tea and toast.My docs check the levels in urine and blood and like I said earlier, my bp is done to the point where the bottom number is 60 which is causing light headness.   If BP going up then need to dDASH MORE(but need to check urine to see where you are!Or take more Spiro. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-) May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension  So what happens IF we stop testing and my numbers, un be knowst to us, continue to climb and my bp continues to go down with the Spiro and dashingRight now I can't eat as most foods are making me ill from the smell and taste, I live nauses with pains in my joints, can't sleep, always constipated,have a kidney stone in my right kidney, my thryoid numbers as well as my parathryoid continue to grow along with other issues and my aldosterone numbers increase The ultrasounds were done my the nephrologist for his own information.  If u are doing OK on DASH and Spiro no reason to test.Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in Difficult Hypertension  So what happens when you have normal sodium in both the 24 hour and one time spot but your aldosterone levels are high.My doctor always tests my aldsoterone with my renin and renin is where it should be but aldosterone not. Should aldosterone also be checked urine or just blood. Pam  Sodium (Na) in Urine A test for sodium in the urine is a 24-hour test or a one-time (spot) test that checks how much sodium is in the urine. Sodium is both an electrolyte and a mineral. It helps keep the water (the amount of fluid inside and outside the body's cells) and electrolyte balance of the body. Sodium is also important in how nerves and muscles work. Most of the sodium in the body (about 85%) is found in blood and lymph fluid. Sodium levels in the body are partly controlled by a hormone called aldosterone, which is made by the adrenal glands. Aldosterone levels tell the kidneys when to hold sodium in the body instead of passing it in the urine. (See a picture of the adrenal glands or the kidneys .) Small amounts of sodium are also lost through the skin when you sweat. Most foods have sodium naturally in them or as an ingredient in cooking. Sodium is found in table salt as sodium chloride or in baking soda as sodium bicarbonate. Many medicines and other products also have sodium in them, including laxatives, aspirin, mouthwash, and toothpaste. Too much sodium in the diet may raise blood pressure in some people. For those who have high blood pressure, eating foods with a lot of sodium makes their chance of heart disease, stroke, and kidney damage higher. Heart failure gets worse when too much sodium is eaten. It increases the amount of water the body holds in and this causes swelling of the legs and hands. Some people have problems when they eat more than 4,000 milligrams (mg) of sodium per day. Low sodium levels are uncommon and most often occur as a side effect of taking medicines that make you urinate more, such as diuretics. Severe diarrhea or vomiting or heavy sweating may also cause low sodium levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Confused as u aSaid bp was going up?But if going down u need more salt or less Spiro What did your Urines show. If DASHING u want more k inuring than BNa Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Considering I just told you I cant eat there is only so much dashing I can do on water, tea and toast.My docs check the levels in urine and blood and like I said earlier, my bp is done to the point where the bottom number is 60 which is causing light headness. If BP going up then need to dDASH MORE(but need to check urine to see where you are!Or take more Spiro. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-) May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension So what happens IF we stop testing and my numbers, un be knowst to us, continue to climb and my bp continues to go down with the Spiro and dashingRight now I can't eat as most foods are making me ill from the smell and taste, I live nauses with pains in my joints, can't sleep, always constipated,have a kidney stone in my right kidney, my thryoid numbers as well as my parathryoid continue to grow along with other issues and my aldosterone numbers increase The ultrasounds were done my the nephrologist for his own information. If u are doing OK on DASH and Spiro no reason to test.Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in Difficult Hypertension So what happens when you have normal sodium in both the 24 hour and one time spot but your aldosterone levels are high.My doctor always tests my aldsoterone with my renin and renin is where it should be but aldosterone not. Should aldosterone also be checked urine or just blood. Pam Sodium (Na) in Urine A test for sodium in the urine is a 24-hour test or a one-time (spot) test that checks how much sodium is in the urine. Sodium is both an electrolyte and a mineral. It helps keep the water (the amount of fluid inside and outside the body's cells) and electrolyte balance of the body. Sodium is also important in how nerves and muscles work. Most of the sodium in the body (about 85%) is found in blood and lymph fluid. Sodium levels in the body are partly controlled by a hormone called aldosterone, which is made by the adrenal glands. Aldosterone levels tell the kidneys when to hold sodium in the body instead of passing it in the urine. (See a picture of the adrenal glands or the kidneys .) Small amounts of sodium are also lost through the skin when you sweat. Most foods have sodium naturally in them or as an ingredient in cooking. Sodium is found in table salt as sodium chloride or in baking soda as sodium bicarbonate. Many medicines and other products also have sodium in them, including laxatives, aspirin, mouthwash, and toothpaste. Too much sodium in the diet may raise blood pressure in some people. For those who have high blood pressure, eating foods with a lot of sodium makes their chance of heart disease, stroke, and kidney damage higher. Heart failure gets worse when too much sodium is eaten. It increases the amount of water the body holds in and this causes swelling of the legs and hands. Some people have problems when they eat more than 4,000 milligrams (mg) of sodium per day. Low sodium levels are uncommon and most often occur as a side effect of taking medicines that make you urinate more, such as diuretics. Severe diarrhea or vomiting or heavy sweating may also cause low sodium levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Not I.. said my doctor wanted my 60 to go up to the 70'sIf you can't eat then dashing is easy.I sent all these days ago on the thread about PTH, where you warned me not to become a cyber condriac My K's are perfectly normal as is my creatnine, sodium in both blood and urine. My urine phosphate however was very low.Pam  Confused as u aSaid bp was going up?But if going down u need more salt or less Spiro What did your Urines show. If DASHING u want more k inuring than BNa Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension  Considering I just told you I cant eat there is only so much dashing I can do on water, tea and toast.My docs check the levels in urine and blood and like I said earlier, my bp is done to the point where the bottom number is 60 which is causing light headness.   If BP going up then need to dDASH MORE(but need to check urine to see where you are!Or take more Spiro. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-) May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension  So what happens IF we stop testing and my numbers, un be knowst to us, continue to climb and my bp continues to go down with the Spiro and dashingRight now I can't eat as most foods are making me ill from the smell and taste, I live nauses with pains in my joints, can't sleep, always constipated,have a kidney stone in my right kidney, my thryoid numbers as well as my parathryoid continue to grow along with other issues and my aldosterone numbers increase The ultrasounds were done my the nephrologist for his own information.  If u are doing OK on DASH and Spiro no reason to test.Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in Difficult Hypertension  So what happens when you have normal sodium in both the 24 hour and one time spot but your aldosterone levels are high.My doctor always tests my aldsoterone with my renin and renin is where it should be but aldosterone not. Should aldosterone also be checked urine or just blood. Pam  Sodium (Na) in Urine A test for sodium in the urine is a 24-hour test or a one-time (spot) test that checks how much sodium is in the urine. Sodium is both an electrolyte and a mineral. It helps keep the water (the amount of fluid inside and outside the body's cells) and electrolyte balance of the body. Sodium is also important in how nerves and muscles work. Most of the sodium in the body (about 85%) is found in blood and lymph fluid. Sodium levels in the body are partly controlled by a hormone called aldosterone, which is made by the adrenal glands. Aldosterone levels tell the kidneys when to hold sodium in the body instead of passing it in the urine. (See a picture of the adrenal glands or the kidneys .) Small amounts of sodium are also lost through the skin when you sweat. Most foods have sodium naturally in them or as an ingredient in cooking. Sodium is found in table salt as sodium chloride or in baking soda as sodium bicarbonate. Many medicines and other products also have sodium in them, including laxatives, aspirin, mouthwash, and toothpaste. Too much sodium in the diet may raise blood pressure in some people. For those who have high blood pressure, eating foods with a lot of sodium makes their chance of heart disease, stroke, and kidney damage higher. Heart failure gets worse when too much sodium is eaten. It increases the amount of water the body holds in and this causes swelling of the legs and hands. Some people have problems when they eat more than 4,000 milligrams (mg) of sodium per day. Low sodium levels are uncommon and most often occur as a side effect of taking medicines that make you urinate more, such as diuretics. Severe diarrhea or vomiting or heavy sweating may also cause low sodium levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Pam, Diastolic 60 or low is usually of athletes and/or those in good bodily shape by exercise. Do you have athletic background? Maybe dias=60 is because of your body is on great form? My dentist has low dias~50 to 55 and she is in healthy but her doctors express the same concern as yours. She said she has records of her dias as low as 45! I guess I must start to doubt her!! Max. Not I.. said my doctor wanted my 60 to go up to the 70's If you can't eat then dashing is easy. I sent all these days ago on the thread about PTH, where you warned me not to become a cyber condriac My K's are perfectly normal as is my creatnine, sodium in both blood and urine. My urine phosphate however was very low. Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 No atheltic background at all. Before BP was spiking and I started on Sprio, it was normally at 70/72  Pam,  Diastolic 60 or low is usually of athletes and/or those in good bodily shape by exercise. Do you have athletic background? Maybe dias=60 is because of your body is on great form? My dentist has low dias~50 to 55 and she is in healthy but her doctors express the same concern as yours. She said she has records of her dias as low as 45! I guess I must start to doubt her!!  Max. Not I.. said my doctor wanted my 60 to go up to the 70's If you can't eat then dashing is easy. I sent all these days ago on the thread about PTH, where you warned me not to become a cyber condriac My K's are perfectly normal as is my creatnine, sodium in both blood and urine. My urine phosphate however was very low. Pam  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Information from WEBMD Low urine phosphate levels may be caused by: An underactive parathyroid gland (hypoparathyroidism). Kidney or liver diseases. What Affects the Test Reasons you may not be able to have the test or why the results may not be helpful include: Taking certain medicines, such as diltiazem (such as Cardizem), aspirin, corticosteroids, diuretics, or parathyroid hormone. Taking a lot of antacids. Not collecting all of your urine within the 24-hour collection period. Note that Sprio is a diuretic. > >>> > >>>> ** > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ** > >>>> Sodium (Na) in Urine > >>>> > >>>> A test for sodium in the urine is a 24-hour test or a one-time (spot) > >>>> test that checks how much sodium is in the urine. Sodium is both an > >>>> electrolyte<http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/electrolytes-and-electrolyte-imbalance\ s>and a mineral. It helps keep the water (the amount of fluid inside and > >>>> outside the body's cells) and electrolyte balance of the body. Sodium is > >>>> also important in how nerves and muscles work. > >>>> > >>>> Most of the sodium in the body (about 85%) is found in blood<http://www.webmd.com/heart/anatomy-picture-of-blood>and lymph > >>>> fluid <http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/lymphatic-system>. Sodium levels > >>>> in the body are partly controlled by a hormone<http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/hormone>called > >>>> *aldosterone*, which is made by the adrenal glands<http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/adrenal-glands-8428>. > >>>> *Aldosterone* levels tell the kidneys<http://www.webmd.com/urinary-incontinence-oab/picture-of-the-kidneys>whe\ n to hold sodium in the body instead of passing it in the urine. (See a > >>>> picture of the adrenal glands<http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/adrenal-glands> [image: > >>>> camera] <http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/adrenal-glands> or the kidneys<http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/kidneys-male> [image: > >>>> camera] <http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/kidneys-male>.) Small amounts of > >>>> sodium are also lost through the skin<http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/picture-of-the-skin>when you sweat. > >>>> > >>>> Most foods have sodium naturally in them or as an ingredient in cooking. > >>>> Sodium is found in table salt as sodium chloride<http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/chloride-cl>or in baking soda as sodium > >>>> bicarbonate<http://www.webmd.com/drugs/drug-11325-sodium+bicarbonate+oral.aspx>. > >>>> Many medicines and other products also have sodium in them, including > >>>> laxatives, aspirin<http://www.webmd.com/drugs/mono-3-ASPIRIN+-+ORAL.aspx?drugid=1082 & drugna\ me=Aspirin+Oral>, > >>>> mouthwash, and toothpaste<http://www.webmd.com/oral-health/weighing-your-toothpaste-options> > >>>> . > >>>> > >>>> Too much sodium in the diet <http://www.webmd.com/diet/default.htm> may > >>>> raise blood pressure<http://www.webmd.com/hypertension-high-blood-pressure/guide/blood-press\ ure-causes>in some people. For those who have high > >>>> blood pressure<http://www.webmd.com/hypertension-high-blood-pressure/default.htm>, > >>>> eating foods with a lot of sodium makes their chance of heart disease<http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/default.htm>, > >>>> stroke <http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/stroke-7439>, and kidney damage > >>>> higher. Heart failure<http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/heart-failure-8021>gets worse when too much sodium is eaten. It increases the amount of water > >>>> the body holds in and this causes swelling of the legs and hands. Some > >>>> people have problems when they eat more than 4,000 milligrams (mg) of sodium > >>>> per day. > >>>> > >>>> Low sodium levels are uncommon and most often occur as a side effect of > >>>> taking medicines that make you urinate more, such as diuretics<http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/diuretic>. > >>>> Severe diarrhea<http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/digestive-diseases-diarrhea>or > >>>> vomiting<http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/digestive-diseases-nausea-vomi\ ting>or heavy sweating may also cause low sodium levels. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 My phosphate levels were 341.6 on a scale of 400 - 1300 with a 24 hour uring. However my pth same day was 72 on a scale of 15-65. No antiacids since I am not eatingno history of kidney or liver diseases, unless now the elevated aldosterone is the kidney issue All my urine was collected as far as I know.So once again not sure what is going onThanks thoughPam  Information from WEBMD Low urine phosphate levels may be caused by: An underactive parathyroid gland (hypoparathyroidism). Kidney or liver diseases. What Affects the Test Reasons you may not be able to have the test or why the results may not be helpful include: Taking certain medicines, such as diltiazem (such as Cardizem), aspirin, corticosteroids, diuretics, or parathyroid hormone. Taking a lot of antacids. Not collecting all of your urine within the 24-hour collection period. Note that Sprio is a diuretic. > >>> > >>>> ** > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ** > >>>> Sodium (Na) in Urine > >>>> > >>>> A test for sodium in the urine is a 24-hour test or a one-time (spot) > >>>> test that checks how much sodium is in the urine. Sodium is both an > >>>> electrolyte<http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/electrolytes-and-electrolyte-imbalances>and a mineral. It helps keep the water (the amount of fluid inside and > >>>> outside the body's cells) and electrolyte balance of the body. Sodium is > >>>> also important in how nerves and muscles work. > >>>> > >>>> Most of the sodium in the body (about 85%) is found in blood<http://www.webmd.com/heart/anatomy-picture-of-blood>and lymph > >>>> fluid <http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/lymphatic-system>. Sodium levels > >>>> in the body are partly controlled by a hormone<http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/hormone>called > >>>> *aldosterone*, which is made by the adrenal glands<http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/adrenal-glands-8428>. > >>>> *Aldosterone* levels tell the kidneys<http://www.webmd.com/urinary-incontinence-oab/picture-of-the-kidneys>when to hold sodium in the body instead of passing it in the urine. (See a > >>>> picture of the adrenal glands<http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/adrenal-glands> [image: > >>>> camera] <http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/adrenal-glands> or the kidneys<http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/kidneys-male> [image: > >>>> camera] <http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/kidneys-male>.) Small amounts of > >>>> sodium are also lost through the skin<http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/picture-of-the-skin>when you sweat. > >>>> > >>>> Most foods have sodium naturally in them or as an ingredient in cooking. > >>>> Sodium is found in table salt as sodium chloride<http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/chloride-cl>or in baking soda as sodium > >>>> bicarbonate<http://www.webmd.com/drugs/drug-11325-sodium+bicarbonate+oral.aspx>. > >>>> Many medicines and other products also have sodium in them, including > >>>> laxatives, aspirin<http://www.webmd.com/drugs/mono-3-ASPIRIN+-+ORAL.aspx?drugid=1082 & drugname=Aspirin+Oral>, > >>>> mouthwash, and toothpaste<http://www.webmd.com/oral-health/weighing-your-toothpaste-options> > >>>> . > >>>> > >>>> Too much sodium in the diet <http://www.webmd.com/diet/default.htm> may > >>>> raise blood pressure<http://www.webmd.com/hypertension-high-blood-pressure/guide/blood-pressure-causes>in some people. For those who have high > >>>> blood pressure<http://www.webmd.com/hypertension-high-blood-pressure/default.htm>, > >>>> eating foods with a lot of sodium makes their chance of heart disease<http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/default.htm>, > >>>> stroke <http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/stroke-7439>, and kidney damage > >>>> higher. Heart failure<http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/heart-failure-8021>gets worse when too much sodium is eaten. It increases the amount of water > >>>> the body holds in and this causes swelling of the legs and hands. Some > >>>> people have problems when they eat more than 4,000 milligrams (mg) of sodium > >>>> per day. > >>>> > >>>> Low sodium levels are uncommon and most often occur as a side effect of > >>>> taking medicines that make you urinate more, such as diuretics<http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/diuretic>. > >>>> Severe diarrhea<http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/digestive-diseases-diarrhea>or > >>>> vomiting<http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/digestive-diseases-nausea-vomiting>or heavy sweating may also cause low sodium levels. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Spiro and low salt normalized my BP but had virtually no effect on other symptoms. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Pam ScriberTired of being sick and the sprio is not helping except lowering my BP Again I do not recommend further Aldo testing as long as u are doing well DASHING. also aldo causes Ca problems so remind your team to look it up as well. Thanks. If after 4 years of CT scans on my adrenal gland and two ultrasounds,a tumor is there, it is really in there deep. I am seeing a endrocine surgeon for high parathryoid levels and he is also exploring a tumor in my adrenals. So we shall see.Pam Pam, this site might give you some ideas:http://www.healthblurbs.com/aldosterone-high-and-low-level-causes-hyperaldosteronism-or-hypoaldosteronism-disorders/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Would need both aldosterone and renin done at the same time to know what is normal. I did see in one of your posts that you gave renin as being 2.29. Many Dr do not understand all that goes into testing aldosterone and renin. > > > ** > > > > > > ** > > If you have no HTN and no medical disorders due to high aldos, then medical > > standards should be changed such that you aldos range falls into normal > > range! > > > > I suspect that high aldos indicates some kind of sexual hormones > > disorders...like high or low testastrone in men and I don't know what in > > women!!! > > > > Max. > > > > So what happens when you have normal sodium in both the 24 hour and one > > time spot but your aldosterone levels are high. > > My doctor always tests my aldsoterone with my renin and renin is where it > > should be but aldosterone not. Should aldosterone also be checked urine or > > just blood. > > Pam > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 That last renins I had with my adlosterone was back in Dec and they were normal. However the surgeon ordered some last Friday for comparision. will get those results tomorrow.the On Dec 13 aldosterone was 34.2 and renin was 1.53 On Nov 12 adlosterone was 14.6 and renin was 1.74Oct 6 aldosterone was 22 .6  and renin was 0.4  this was when I started on the spiroPam   Would need both aldosterone and renin done at the same time to know what is normal. I did see in one of your posts that you gave renin as being 2.29. Many Dr do not understand all that goes into testing aldosterone and renin. > > > ** > > > > > > ** > > If you have no HTN and no medical disorders due to high aldos, then medical > > standards should be changed such that you aldos range falls into normal > > range! > > > > I suspect that high aldos indicates some kind of sexual hormones > > disorders...like high or low testastrone in men and I don't know what in > > women!!! > > > > Max. > > > > So what happens when you have normal sodium in both the 24 hour and one > > time spot but your aldosterone levels are high. > > My doctor always tests my aldsoterone with my renin and renin is where it > > should be but aldosterone not. Should aldosterone also be checked urine or > > just blood. > > Pam > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Many seem to misunderstand what spiro does. It does not lower aldosterone and may even increase it. It is a aldosterone blocker so it reduces the affect in has on renin. As you have posted looks like your renin is more normal. > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > If you have no HTN and no medical disorders due to high aldos, then > > medical > > > > standards should be changed such that you aldos range falls into normal > > > > range! > > > > > > > > I suspect that high aldos indicates some kind of sexual hormones > > > > disorders...like high or low testastrone in men and I don't know what > > in > > > > women!!! > > > > > > > > Max. > > > > > > > > So what happens when you have normal sodium in both the 24 hour and one > > > > time spot but your aldosterone levels are high. > > > > My doctor always tests my aldsoterone with my renin and renin is where > > it > > > > should be but aldosterone not. Should aldosterone also be checked urine > > or > > > > just blood. > > > > Pam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Dr Grim states that lowering salts reduces affects of aldosterone. This may be true as to B/P. What is not know is what high aldosterone does to other body systems. Studies done within tn the past few years may indicate it affects mental health. > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > If you have no HTN and no medical disorders due to high aldos, then > > > medical > > > > > standards should be changed such that you aldos range falls into normal > > > > > range! > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that high aldos indicates some kind of sexual hormones > > > > > disorders...like high or low testastrone in men and I don't know what > > > in > > > > > women!!! > > > > > > > > > > Max. > > > > > > > > > > So what happens when you have normal sodium in both the 24 hour and one > > > > > time spot but your aldosterone levels are high. > > > > > My doctor always tests my aldsoterone with my renin and renin is where > > > it > > > > > should be but aldosterone not. Should aldosterone also be checked urine > > > or > > > > > just blood. > > > > > Pam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 If it effects mental health, it sure is doing a JOB on me. Things are all crazy within my body now. I want to be able to eat a balanced meal like a normal person, but just the smell of foods makes me ill. Real hard to go grocery shopping and passing through the deli with them cooking different foods. Guess I am one of those people who would be good for a study on how it effects the body.Pam  Dr Grim states that lowering salts reduces affects of aldosterone. This may be true as to B/P. What is not know is what high aldosterone does to other body systems. Studies done within tn the past few years may indicate it affects mental health. > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > If you have no HTN and no medical disorders due to high aldos, then > > > medical > > > > > standards should be changed such that you aldos range falls into normal > > > > > range! > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that high aldos indicates some kind of sexual hormones > > > > > disorders...like high or low testastrone in men and I don't know what > > > in > > > > > women!!! > > > > > > > > > > Max. > > > > > > > > > > So what happens when you have normal sodium in both the 24 hour and one > > > > > time spot but your aldosterone levels are high. > > > > > My doctor always tests my aldsoterone with my renin and renin is where > > > it > > > > > should be but aldosterone not. Should aldosterone also be checked urine > > > or > > > > > just blood. > > > > > Pam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 It is not possible to interpret renin and aldo numbers without a urine Na and K and creat. And without telling us what is normal in the lab where ur renin and Aldo were tested. Also need meds and time of day for each one. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension That last renins I had with my adlosterone was back in Dec and they were normal. However the surgeon ordered some last Friday for comparision. will get those results tomorrow.the On Dec 13 aldosterone was 34.2 and renin was 1.53 On Nov 12 adlosterone was 14.6 and renin was 1.74Oct 6 aldosterone was 22 .6 and renin was 0.4 this was when I started on the spiroPam Would need both aldosterone and renin done at the same time to know what is normal. I did see in one of your posts that you gave renin as being 2.29. Many Dr do not understand all that goes into testing aldosterone and renin. > > > ** > > > > > > ** > > If you have no HTN and no medical disorders due to high aldos, then medical > > standards should be changed such that you aldos range falls into normal > > range! > > > > I suspect that high aldos indicates some kind of sexual hormones > > disorders...like high or low testastrone in men and I don't know what in > > women!!! > > > > Max. > > > > So what happens when you have normal sodium in both the 24 hour and one > > time spot but your aldosterone levels are high. > > My doctor always tests my aldsoterone with my renin and renin is where it > > should be but aldosterone not. Should aldosterone also be checked urine or > > just blood. > > Pam > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 As far as we know Aldo MUST have excess salt in the diet to do harm. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Dr Grim states that lowering salts reduces affects of aldosterone. This may be true as to B/P. What is not know is what high aldosterone does to other body systems. Studies done within tn the past few years may indicate it affects mental health. > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > If you have no HTN and no medical disorders due to high aldos, then > > > medical > > > > > standards should be changed such that you aldos range falls into normal > > > > > range! > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that high aldos indicates some kind of sexual hormones > > > > > disorders...like high or low testastrone in men and I don't know what > > > in > > > > > women!!! > > > > > > > > > > Max. > > > > > > > > > > So what happens when you have normal sodium in both the 24 hour and one > > > > > time spot but your aldosterone levels are high. > > > > > My doctor always tests my aldsoterone with my renin and renin is where > > > it > > > > > should be but aldosterone not. Should aldosterone also be checked urine > > > or > > > > > just blood. > > > > > Pam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Avoid the deli if you want to dashTiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension If it effects mental health, it sure is doing a JOB on me. Things are all crazy within my body now. I want to be able to eat a balanced meal like a normal person, but just the smell of foods makes me ill. Real hard to go grocery shopping and passing through the deli with them cooking different foods. Guess I am one of those people who would be good for a study on how it effects the body.Pam Dr Grim states that lowering salts reduces affects of aldosterone. This may be true as to B/P. What is not know is what high aldosterone does to other body systems. Studies done within tn the past few years may indicate it affects mental health. > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > If you have no HTN and no medical disorders due to high aldos, then > > > medical > > > > > standards should be changed such that you aldos range falls into normal > > > > > range! > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that high aldos indicates some kind of sexual hormones > > > > > disorders...like high or low testastrone in men and I don't know what > > > in > > > > > women!!! > > > > > > > > > > Max. > > > > > > > > > > So what happens when you have normal sodium in both the 24 hour and one > > > > > time spot but your aldosterone levels are high. > > > > > My doctor always tests my aldsoterone with my renin and renin is where > > > it > > > > > should be but aldosterone not. Should aldosterone also be checked urine > > > or > > > > > just blood. > > > > > Pam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 See our brain fog files. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension If it effects mental health, it sure is doing a JOB on me. Things are all crazy within my body now. I want to be able to eat a balanced meal like a normal person, but just the smell of foods makes me ill. Real hard to go grocery shopping and passing through the deli with them cooking different foods. Guess I am one of those people who would be good for a study on how it effects the body.Pam Dr Grim states that lowering salts reduces affects of aldosterone. This may be true as to B/P. What is not know is what high aldosterone does to other body systems. Studies done within tn the past few years may indicate it affects mental health. > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > If you have no HTN and no medical disorders due to high aldos, then > > > medical > > > > > standards should be changed such that you aldos range falls into normal > > > > > range! > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that high aldos indicates some kind of sexual hormones > > > > > disorders...like high or low testastrone in men and I don't know what > > > in > > > > > women!!! > > > > > > > > > > Max. > > > > > > > > > > So what happens when you have normal sodium in both the 24 hour and one > > > > > time spot but your aldosterone levels are high. > > > > > My doctor always tests my aldsoterone with my renin and renin is where > > > it > > > > > should be but aldosterone not. Should aldosterone also be checked urine > > > or > > > > > just blood. > > > > > Pam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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