Re: Re: Steam and hydro-distilled rose and jasmine

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> It's true that rose can be both steam distilled and solvent extracted.

> Steam distilled rose oil is actually quite common, but really expensive.

> It's usually known as rose otto.

> This was a question that was discussed a while ago about whether there is

> a steam-distilled jasmine. I believe White Lotus had a steam distilled

> jasmine, although I don't know if they still carry it. I was actually quite

> shocked, as I always heard that jasmine couldn't be steam distilled and

> could only be solvent extracted or enfleuraged.

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Hi - many thanks for your reply. Rose otto - of course! (Feel silly

now!)

Yes - it's White Lotus that has the jasmine oil (still carrying it). I was

surprised too because I had heard the same ... But then I started thinking

about it, and I couldn't quite understand why you *wouldn't* be able to

distill jasmine flowers.

Surely if a flower can be distilled into an attar, it can also be distilled

on its own? (And jasmine and other attars are usually created by distilling

the flowers into the sandalwood oil aren't they?)

I can understand that the economic side of it may be prohibitive though -

and that maybe for that reason it would be extremely rare to find.

But my own limited observations of certain jasmine flowers are that the

scent is not destroyed by heat, although the structure of the flower breaks

down quickly.

Any further thoughts very welcome! (Suppose I am just going to have to try

it myself!)

Best

Johanna

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On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Johanna Knox wrote:

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> This was a question that was discussed a while ago about whether there is

>> a steam-distilled jasmine.

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Hi again

I just found the old discussion. It ended unresolved, although there was a

good suggestion that perhaps the oil is distilled from the absolute.

I wonder - has anyone actually sampled the oil since that discussion?

I suppose one thing to do would actually contact White Lotus and ask. I'd

do it myself, but I'm pretty sure they're fed up with my questions by now!

Best

Johanna

[Guest guest]

> I know what you mean , but I think it's hydrodistilled and perhaps they

can control the temperature better that way so that the blossoms yield their

oils. My understanding is that steam distillation happens at a very high

temperature. Someday when I have time to learn more about the topic of

distillation, I will look for some answers.

> Maggie

, Maggie et al:

For making rose EO, it's my understanding (from books, not

eyewitness experience) that roses are all hydrodistilled because

they need to be moved around by the turbulence of the moving

water, otherwise they would compact and be poorly-distilled if

you were to try to just pass steam through them.

I believe that jasmine concrete is the source of hydrodistilled

jasmine.

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