Guest guest Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 When my daughter was in school, we started having the same problem. My daughter wanted to do it - and wanted to do it right - and so would sit sometimes a couple hours trying so hard and would cry if I tried to get her to stop. She also did not like me to " correct " her - and had MANY " meltdowns " . It was heartbreaking to watch. I too, was being blamed by teachers for not spending enough time. I finally stood my ground, and said " She's doing 1/2 hour and that is it. I am setting the timer. If it's not done after that - it's not done - but SHE is done " . I had HAD it. Have you read any of Alfie Kohn's books - a more recent one I think is titled " The Case Against Homework " ? Lots of ideas, tips, and thoughts to mull over in this book. One thought .....perhaps the reason she is not having trouble finishing at school is because she is using cues there to help her finish -or she's getting more assistance from the teachers or parapros - so it seems like she's understanding things when in fact she is not ? Does your daughter have parapros in her room ? I've seen amazing parapros work with children - but I've also watched those who help " too much " , by not giving the children a chance to think , or by giving them the answers instead of letting them try on their own first. There are also all kinds of " cues " in most school rooms - and probably special cues the teacher herself uses, and you would be at a disadvantage if you do not have these at home. My sister is having this same issue with her son. He is " okay " at school because they have examples on the board to use -(talking math here) but he gets home and doesn't have any notes to look at, and he forgets how he did the problems. (They do a lot of " group work " instead of using books) So sorry you are dealing with this. It can be SO frustrating ! cynthia Lately we have been getting SO annoyed with our daughter's special ed teacher. She keeps assigning her homework and writes a note to us to complain if it is not completed on time. Her teacher makes a point of saying " Stacey had no trouble with this in class " Of course, it's a highly structured setting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 My daughter used to have lots of homework. Let me tell you, it was usually me going to another room and crying. I finally told the teacher that I had already completed school and did not wish to go back to grade school, or complete projects. She got the picture. She did send work home but knew that we would do as much as we could handle. She was also assigned book reports. This was just crazy. Kayla was reading at all and they were letting her pick the book from the library. She was picking huge books. I refused to do these, I said if you think she can do them then she can do them with you. Well, they worked on them in speech and she had to write the title and author that was her book report. This year she has a new teacher and he doesn't believe in homework. He feels his students are bombarded all day and need to have a break at home. He also tries not to structure his day. He wants the kids to learn to adjust. I have always believed in that and therefore we never had a set schedule. Oh, don't get me wrong she would love it. But she needs to learn that life really isn't like that. My life can't be like that and most people's can't. I suggest you tell the teacher she is placing undo stress into your family life by requesting homework be done. Of course she does it at school that's what school is and why they have teachers and aides there. Kids know school is for working and home is supposed to be for family, etc. I personally did not get a masters in education and therefore can't be a teacher. I do work with her alot at home. For example she wants to learn math so we work on it in a fun atmosphere and if either of us gets frustrated we stop. > Lately we have been getting SO annoyed with our daughter's special ed > teacher. She keeps assigning her homework and writes a note to us to > complain if it is not completed on time. Her teacher makes a point of > saying " Stacey had no trouble with this in class " Of course, it's a > highly structured setting! In Stacey's situation, we have 2 other > kids, pets, and a zillion other distractions at home......coupled with > the fact that she is obsessive about watching certain shows at certain > times, she was even upset last nite because she wanted to eat dessert > at exactly 6:30 and wasn't able to since dinner was a little later > than normal. Watching the clock and doing certain things at certain > times has been a big thing lately. Sometimes we can get her to focus, > and other times when she gets a problem wrong and we correct her she > starts a meltdown on the spot and we have to re-direct her to ratchet > her emotions back down, so to speak. Anybody else have this problem? > She's in 3rd grade spec. ed, and I just don't see what she's > supposed to get out of take home math assignments other than making us > all miserable. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 It took us years to get Allie adjusted to doing homework at home (also third grade.) I've found that having a specific time and place to do it helps. I finally got her going on it by giving a good reward after it is finished. This year she has a big interest in pleasing her teachers, so that helps. I want her to get caught up so she can be in as much general ed for middle school as possible. I personally like the homework because it's helping me see what level they are teaching her at school. All that said, you need to what is best for your kid & your situation. Your situation may be completely different than mine, so I'm in no way trying to tell you to do it/not to. Just sharing what happened with us. Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Take the clocks away! If she is overly focused on the time challenge her to do it at her own pace and to see how long it took when she finishes. The added pressure of the clock could lead to more meltdowns. Do you have an area for homework that is all her own? A place away from the television set, siblings, and pets? I am a college student and I have a desk in a quiet room where there are no distractions, adequate lighting, and I adhere to a routine. I do all my school work online at home and have greater success in this environment than I do in a classroom setting. Perhaps this is what the teacher is envisioning for her at home. Assuming that she has two parents and siblings that could potentially give her one on one attention, where she has to share the teachers attention with the other students in the class. I too had plenty of problems with homework when I was at home. I had thre sisters and my mother was working, so much of the time I struggled, especially with math. Compunded by the fact that I have problems reading, it took me insane amounts of time to complete my school work. Late hours at night, a very tired single parent, and sisters too busy with their own things effected my schooling to the point that I would not graduate until I was 21. Now 31 and in college I have learned to do the things I need to keep focuses and pace myself. When things get to be too much, I take a break. I do not have a clock in the room where I do my school work, however for my timed tests I do have a timer. This way I can pace myself. http://speakup.today.com Subject: homework? To: Autism_in_Girls Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 5:10 AM Lately we have been getting SO annoyed with our daughter's special ed teacher. She keeps assigning her homework and writes a note to us to complain if it is not completed on time. Her teacher makes a point of saying " Stacey had no trouble with this in class " Of course, it's a highly structured setting! In Stacey's situation, we have 2 other kids, pets, and a zillion other distractions at home......coupled with the fact that she is obsessive about watching certain shows at certain times, she was even upset last nite because she wanted to eat dessert at exactly 6:30 and wasn't able to since dinner was a little later than normal. Watching the clock and doing certain things at certain times has been a big thing lately. Sometimes we can get her to focus, and other times when she gets a problem wrong and we correct her she starts a meltdown on the spot and we have to re-direct her to ratchet her emotions back down, so to speak. Anybody else have this problem? She's in 3rd grade spec. ed, and I just don't see what she's supposed to get out of take home math assignments other than making us all miserable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I am so proud of you for sticking to your schooling and not giving up. Keep up the hard work only positive things will come from it. Becky wrote: Take the clocks away! If she is overly focused on the time challenge her to do it at her own pace and to see how long it took when she finishes. The added pressure of the clock could lead to more meltdowns. Do you have an area for homework that is all her own? A place away from the television set, siblings, and pets? I am a college student and I have a desk in a quiet room where there are no distractions, adequate lighting, and I adhere to a routine. I do all my school work online at home and have greater success in this environment than I do in a classroom setting. Perhaps this is what the teacher is envisioning for her at home. Assuming that she has two parents and siblings that could potentially give her one on one attention, where she has to share the teachers attention with the other students in the class. I too had plenty of problems with homework when I was at home. I had thre sisters and my mother was working, so much of the time I struggled, especially with math. Compunded by the fact that I have problems reading, it took me insane amounts of time to complete my school work. Late hours at night, a very tired single parent, and sisters too busy with their own things effected my schooling to the point that I would not graduate until I was 21. Now 31 and in college I have learned to do the things I need to keep focuses and pace myself. When things get to be too much, I take a break. I do not have a clock in the room where I do my school work, however for my timed tests I do have a timer. This way I can pace myself. http://speakup.today.com Subject: homework? To: Autism_in_Girls Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 5:10 AM Lately we have been getting SO annoyed with our daughter's special ed teacher. She keeps assigning her homework and writes a note to us to complain if it is not completed on time. Her teacher makes a point of saying " Stacey had no trouble with this in class " Of course, it's a highly structured setting! In Stacey's situation, we have 2 other kids, pets, and a zillion other distractions at home......coupled with the fact that she is obsessive about watching certain shows at certain times, she was even upset last nite because she wanted to eat dessert at exactly 6:30 and wasn't able to since dinner was a little later than normal. Watching the clock and doing certain things at certain times has been a big thing lately. Sometimes we can get her to focus, and other times when she gets a problem wrong and we correct her she starts a meltdown on the spot and we have to re-direct her to ratchet her emotions back down, so to speak. Anybody else have this problem? She's in 3rd grade spec. ed, and I just don't see what she's supposed to get out of take home math assignments other than making us all miserable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 We are lucky enough to have a spare room. We set up a table with 2 chairs and call it the class room. My daughter goes there in the morning to study spelling and sight words (1st grade) and then back there in the evening to do homework. Only her and her " home teacher " are aloud in there during " class " time. If we don't do homework like this, she is all over the place listening to sounds, talking, drawing on her papers, etc. Debi wrote: It took us years to get Allie adjusted to doing homework at home (also third grade.) I've found that having a specific time and place to do it helps. I finally got her going on it by giving a good reward after it is finished. This year she has a big interest in pleasing her teachers, so that helps. I want her to get caught up so she can be in as much general ed for middle school as possible. I personally like the homework because it's helping me see what level they are teaching her at school. All that said, you need to what is best for your kid & your situation. Your situation may be completely different than mine, so I'm in no way trying to tell you to do it/not to. Just sharing what happened with us. Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 We had the homework problem as well. I had a chat with the teacher and she agreed that any more than 1/2 hour on homework for a grade school child was enough. We had been really stressing over this at home. Another problem we had was in the timing of homework. The teacher had told the children that the home work had to be done that night and turned in the next day. To Annie, this would mean that the sun had to be set before starting work on homework. That didn't work with our schedule at home. We did homework first then other activities. Another chat with the teacher fixed this problem. It seemed that whatever the teacher had said was the ONLY way to do things in Annie's mind. When she told Annie that she could do it when she got home, things got a lot better a lot sooner. I have often joked with people saying that God spoke in the form of Annie's teacher and that was the only way things could be done. Just another example of how the words were taken. Sondra has confirmed this on several occasions. She has trouble with certain words or phrases. Clarification is needed. Dianna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I would try to talk to the teacher and explain your situation. As a special ed teacher, I always talk to the parents and find out if they want homework, some do and some don't. If they don't want homework this is fine with me. homework? > >Lately we have been getting SO annoyed with our daughter's special ed >teacher. She keeps assigning her homework and writes a note to us to >complain if it is not completed on time. Her teacher makes a point of >saying " Stacey had no trouble with this in class " Of course, it's a >highly structured setting! In Stacey's situation, we have 2 other >kids, pets, and a zillion other distractions at home......coupled with >the fact that she is obsessive about watching certain shows at certain >times, she was even upset last nite because she wanted to eat dessert >at exactly 6:30 and wasn't able to since dinner was a little later >than normal. Watching the clock and doing certain things at certain >times has been a big thing lately. Sometimes we can get her to focus, >and other times when she gets a problem wrong and we correct her she >starts a meltdown on the spot and we have to re-direct her to ratchet >her emotions back down, so to speak. Anybody else have this problem? > She's in 3rd grade spec. ed, and I just don't see what she's >supposed to get out of take home math assignments other than making us >all miserable. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I have an autistic 6 yr. old daughter AND I have been an Asst. Teacher in a special ed. school for 14 yrs. Homework is vital for helping reinforce what your child is learning in school on a daily basis, but oftentimes it can be a battle for the parents. If you feel it is too much work, or too many problems for your daughter, write a note or email the teacher asking if she could cut down the numbers of problems. In my classroom we have done this for many parents throughout the years. Some parents request more homework or more challenging homework, while other parents are dealing with other issues, such as changes in schedules or routine that really throw the child off, and make homework time too stressful for everyone involved. Communicate your situation with the teacher if you haven't already done so. Hopefully, she will be understanding and you can find a solution that satisfies everyone. Karmen homework? Lately we have been getting SO annoyed with our daughter's special ed teacher. She keeps assigning her homework and writes a note to us to complain if it is not completed on time. Her teacher makes a point of saying " Stacey had no trouble with this in class " Of course, it's a highly structured setting! In Stacey's situation, we have 2 other kids, pets, and a zillion other distractions at home......coupled with the fact that she is obsessive about watching certain shows at certain times, she was even upset last nite because she wanted to eat dessert at exactly 6:30 and wasn't able to since dinner was a little later than normal. Watching the clock and doing certain things at certain times has been a big thing lately. Sometimes we can get her to focus, and other times when she gets a problem wrong and we correct her she starts a meltdown on the spot and we have to re-direct her to ratchet her emotions back down, so to speak. Anybody else have this problem? She's in 3rd grade spec. ed, and I just don't see what she's supposed to get out of take home math assignments other than making us all miserable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Thanks for all your responses! Last nite Stacey was in a better frame of mind and we were able to improvise a tape measure to use as a number line for her math. She never expressed the need for one before, but she said she used one in class. That being said, she completed the whole sheet in less than 10 minutes, where it was an hour of unsuccessful struggling the nite before. Having more than one nite to complete the work is important, as there are definitely good and not so good days for her. homework? Lately we have been getting SO annoyed with our daughter's special ed teacher. She keeps assigning her homework and writes a note to us to complain if it is not completed on time. Her teacher makes a point of saying " Stacey had no trouble with this in class " Of course, it's a highly structured setting! In Stacey's situation, we have 2 other kids, pets, and a zillion other distractions at home......coupled with the fact that she is obsessive about watching certain shows at certain times, she was even upset last nite because she wanted to eat dessert at exactly 6:30 and wasn't able to since dinner was a little later than normal. Watching the clock and doing certain things at certain times has been a big thing lately. Sometimes we can get her to focus, and other times when she gets a problem wrong and we correct her she starts a meltdown on the spot and we have to re-direct her to ratchet her emotions back down, so to speak. Anybody else have this problem? She's in 3rd grade spec. ed, and I just don't see what she's supposed to get out of take home math assignments other than making us all miserable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 i rarely try homework with my daughter, i have told them at school, that she separates her world. Home is home, school is school, and to do school things at home, just doesn't mix. she has however attempted some at home on her own...when we offer help she usually gets all upset. she showed me some english she had to do over her 2 week school break. i told her we would give her help, she refused, and no more was said. then last night, 2 days before school goes back she got it out and said....i need help.......now!!!!! i wasn't impressed at the timing, and i told her we wanted to help her 2 weeks ago. we attempted to help her with some words, she got a bit upset, but we managed to do some, don't think she has a clue what half the words mean though.............. Cheryl S [chez] To: Autism_in_Girls@...: mrlee770@...: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 05:19:04 -0700Subject: Re: homework? Thanks for all your responses! Last nite Stacey was in a better frame of mind and we were able to improvise a tape measure to use as a number line for her math. She never expressed the need for one before, but she said she used one in class. That being said, she completed the whole sheet in less than 10 minutes, where it was an hour of unsuccessful struggling the nite before. Having more than one nite to complete the work is important, as there are definitely good and not so good days for her. homework?Lately we have been getting SO annoyed with our daughter's special edteacher. She keeps assigning her homework and writes a note to us tocomplain if it is not completed on time. Her teacher makes a point ofsaying " Stacey had no trouble with this in class " Of course, it's ahighly structured setting! In Stacey's situation, we have 2 otherkids, pets, and a zillion other distractions at home......coupled withthe fact that she is obsessive about watching certain shows at certaintimes, she was even upset last nite because she wanted to eat dessertat exactly 6:30 and wasn't able to since dinner was a little laterthan normal. Watching the clock and doing certain things at certaintimes has been a big thing lately. Sometimes we can get her to focus,and other times when she gets a problem wrong and we correct her shestarts a meltdown on the spot and we have to re-direct her to ratchether emotions back down, so to speak. Anybody else have this problem?She's in 3rd grade spec. ed, and I just don't see what she'ssupposed to get out of take home math assignments other than making usall miserable.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Hi - I recently found a whole roll of " stick on " number lines at the Dollar Tree store in the teacher's section. Perfect to use across the top of a desk. (and only one dollar) cynthia Thanks for all your responses! Last nite Stacey was in a better frame of mind and we were able to improvise a tape measure to use as a number line for her math. She never expressed the need for one before, but she said she used one in class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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