Re: Aldosterone Tests Possibly Done Wrong

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Take him my article and maybe we can get him up to speed.CE Grim MDThanks for your reply. I am going to either call the doctor back and ask for a retest or go for a second opinion and ask for the test to be done right. The university hospital doctor already told me to let him be the doctor when I told him I was having kidney pain. He wanted me to tell him where my pain was and what type. So I am not too excited about telling him that I think my test was done wrong. I am even thinking about going to Mayo Clinic. Just wish it wouldn't be so far away. > >> > I have been dealing with sudden blood pressure spikes, etc. for over 4 years now. Recently I had a sudden spike of blood pressure 195/98 with sudden severe dizziness. I went to the ER and basically told it was anxiety. About 1 week later I picked up my medical records and learned that the CT scan (used to rule our a blot clot in my lungs) showed a 1.32 cm adenoma and that I also had blood in my urine. The ER doctor failed to tell me this. So I went to a university hospital endocrinologist thinking that I would get better care. The doctor suspected that I had a pheochromocytoma. That was ruled out with the plasma metanephrine test. After almost 2 weeks he has told me that all the blood tests that he took are normal. The aldosterone blood test from what I am reading is susposed to be done in a lying down position, done after fasting over night, & no ace inhibitor in your system. Well, I took lisinopril that morning, did not fast, & was sitting up when I took the test about 6 p.m. I am having off and on pain in the adrenal/kidney area & my kidneys seem to empty better at some times more than others. Does the aldosterone test have to be done under the conditions that I stated? The endocrinologist basically told me that I probably have anxiety problems. So I am back to the beginning now in trying to find out what is wrong with me. I am so ill most days that I am in bed a good part of the day & night. I need some advice, please!!> >>

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Must have been eating too much salt.CE Grim MDWhen I had the extreme swelling I was on no medicines. > > > >> > > > I have been dealing with sudden blood pressure spikes, etc. for over 4 years now. Recently I had a sudden spike of blood pressure 195/98 with sudden severe dizziness. I went to the ER and basically told it was anxiety. About 1 week later I picked up my medical records and learned that the CT scan (used to rule our a blot clot in my lungs) showed a 1.32 cm adenoma and that I also had blood in my urine. The ER doctor failed to tell me this. So I went to a university hospital endocrinologist thinking that I would get better care. The doctor suspected that I had a pheochromocytoma. That was ruled out with the plasma metanephrine test. After almost 2 weeks he has told me that all the blood tests that he took are normal. The aldosterone blood test from what I am reading is susposed to be done in a lying down position, done after fasting over night, & no ace inhibitor in your system. Well, I took lisinopril that morning, did not fast, & was sitting up when I took the test about 6 p.m. I am having off and on pain in the adrenal/kidney area & my kidneys seem to empty better at some times more than others. Does the aldosterone test have to be done under the conditions that I stated? The endocrinologist basically told me that I probably have anxiety problems. So I am back to the beginning now in trying to find out what is wrong with me. I am so ill most days that I am in bed a good part of the day & night. I need some advice, please!!> > > >> > >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

Normal range doesn't mean much in PA. You can have Aldo in med range and renin

at bottom end of normal. This would mean you have PA.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have been dealing with sudden blood pressure spikes, etc. for over

4 years now. Recently I had a sudden spike of blood pressure 195/98 with sudden

severe dizziness. I went to the ER and basically told it was anxiety. About 1

week later I picked up my medical records and learned that the CT scan (used to

rule our a blot clot in my lungs) showed a 1.32 cm adenoma and that I also had

blood in my urine. The ER doctor failed to tell me this. So I went to a

university hospital endocrinologist thinking that I would get better care. The

doctor suspected that I had a pheochromocytoma. That was ruled out with the

plasma metanephrine test. After almost 2 weeks he has told me that all the blood

tests that he took are normal. The aldosterone blood test from what I am reading

is susposed to be done in a lying down position, done after fasting over night,

& no ace inhibitor in your system. Well, I took lisinopril that morning, did not

fast, & was sitting up when I took the test about 6 p.m. I am having off and on

pain in the adrenal/kidney area & my kidneys seem to empty better at some times

more than others. Does the aldosterone test have to be done under the conditions

that I stated? The endocrinologist basically told me that I probably have

anxiety problems. So I am back to the beginning now in trying to find out what

is wrong with me. I am so ill most days that I am in bed a good part of the day

& night. I need some advice, please!!

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[Guest guest]

did you ask your doc just how an adenoma " functions? " since yours is non

functioning......;-)

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>When I had the extreme swelling I was on no medicines.

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>> > > > I have been dealing with sudden blood pressure spikes, etc. for over 4

years now. Recently I had a sudden spike of blood pressure 195/98 with sudden

severe dizziness. I went to the ER and basically told it was anxiety. About 1

week later I picked up my medical records and learned that the CT scan (used to

rule our a blot clot in my lungs) showed a 1.32 cm adenoma and that I also had

blood in my urine. The ER doctor failed to tell me this. So I went to a

university hospital endocrinologist thinking that I would get better care. The

doctor suspected that I had a pheochromocytoma. That was ruled out with the

plasma metanephrine test. After almost 2 weeks he has told me that all the blood

tests that he took are normal. The aldosterone blood test from what I am reading

is susposed to be done in a lying down position, done after fasting over night,

& no ace inhibitor in your system. Well, I took lisinopril that morning, did not

fast, & was sitting up

when I took the test about 6 p.m. I am having off and on pain in the

adrenal/kidney area & my kidneys seem to empty better at some times more than

others. Does the aldosterone test have to be done under the conditions that I

stated? The endocrinologist basically told me that I probably have anxiety

problems. So I am back to the beginning now in trying to find out what is wrong

with me. I am so ill most days that I am in bed a good part of the day & night.

I need some advice, please!!

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[Guest guest]

Can they tell if it's " non-functioning " without further testing, such as AVS?

> > > >

> > > > I have been dealing with sudden blood pressure spikes, etc. for over 4

years now. Recently I had a sudden spike of blood pressure 195/98 with sudden

severe dizziness. I went to the ER and basically told it was anxiety. About 1

week later I picked up my medical records and learned that the CT scan (used to

rule our a blot clot in my lungs) showed a 1.32 cm adenoma and that I also had

blood in my urine. The ER doctor failed to tell me this. So I went to a

university hospital endocrinologist thinking that I would get better care. The

doctor suspected that I had a pheochromocytoma. That was ruled out with the

plasma metanephrine test. After almost 2 weeks he has told me that all the blood

tests that he took are normal. The aldosterone blood test from what I am reading

is susposed to be done in a lying down position, done after fasting over night,

& no ace inhibitor in your system. Well, I took lisinopril that morning, did not

fast, & was sitting up when I took the test about 6 p.m. I am having off and on

pain in the adrenal/kidney area & my kidneys seem to empty better at some times

more than others. Does the aldosterone test have to be done under the conditions

that I stated? The endocrinologist basically told me that I probably have

anxiety problems. So I am back to the beginning now in trying to find out what

is wrong with me. I am so ill most days that I am in bed a good part of the day

& night. I need some advice, please!!

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Glenda,

if you are having HTN problems and you have an adenoma, without AVS, no one can

tell if it is functioning or not.

Hirsutism - PCOS??? Excess

testosterone?

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Glenda

The endocrinologist told me that it appears to

be a non-functioning adenoma. One thing that I would like to add to my story is

that my hirsutism is getting worse (chin & upper lip) and a chiropractor

said that I have calcification on my thyroid. Several times in the last 2 weeks

I have had pain in my kidney area in the middle of the night & early

mornings mostly with it occasionally at other times.

> > >

> > > I have been dealing with sudden blood pressure spikes, etc. for

over 4 years now. Recently I had a sudden spike of blood pressure 195/98 with

sudden severe dizziness. I went to the ER and basically told it was anxiety.

About 1 week later I picked up my medical records and learned that the CT scan

(used to rule our a blot clot in my lungs) showed a 1.32 cm adenoma and that I

also had blood in my urine. The ER doctor failed to tell me this. So I went to

a university hospital endocrinologist thinking that I would get better care.

The doctor suspected that I had a pheochromocytoma. That was ruled out with the

plasma metanephrine test. After almost 2 weeks he has told me that all the

blood tests that he took are normal. The aldosterone blood test from what I am

reading is susposed to be done in a lying down position, done after fasting

over night, & no ace inhibitor in your system. Well, I took lisinopril that

morning, did not fast, & was sitting up when I t ook the test about 6 p.m.

I am having off and on pain in the adrenal/kidney area & my kidneys seem to

empty better at some times more than others. Does the aldosterone test have to

be done under the conditions that I stated? The endocrinologist basically told

me that I probably have anxiety problems. So I am back to the beginning now in

trying to find out what is wrong with me. I am so ill most days that I am in

bed a good part of the day & night. I need some advice, please!!

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I am very glad that I found this group. I have learned so much in just a few

hours of being a member. Thanks for the advice especially about the way that

the blood was drawn. By the way, I read the article in the files about the

proper way to test potassium and no mine was not done properly.

> > > >

> > > > I have been dealing with sudden blood pressure spikes, etc. for over 4

years now. Recently I had a sudden spike of blood pressure 195/98 with sudden

severe dizziness. I went to the ER and basically told it was anxiety. About 1

week later I picked up my medical records and learned that the CT scan (used to

rule our a blot clot in my lungs) showed a 1.32 cm adenoma and that I also had

blood in my urine. The ER doctor failed to tell me this. So I went to a

university hospital endocrinologist thinking that I would get better care. The

doctor suspected that I had a pheochromocytoma. That was ruled out with the

plasma metanephrine test. After almost 2 weeks he has told me that all the blood

tests that he took are normal. The aldosterone blood test from what I am reading

is susposed to be done in a lying down position, done after fasting over night,

& no ace inhibitor in your system. Well, I took lisinopril that morning, did not

fast, & was sitting up when I took the test about 6 p.m. I am having off and on

pain in the adrenal/kidney area & my kidneys seem to empty better at some times

more than others. Does the aldosterone test have to be done under the conditions

that I stated? The endocrinologist basically told me that I probably have

anxiety problems. So I am back to the beginning now in trying to find out what

is wrong with me. I am so ill most days that I am in bed a good part of the day

& night. I need some advice, please!!

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

He is just assuming since the blood tests that he took were all normal that the

adenoma I have can not be releasing any hormones. I was willing to accept those

results until I learned about the wrong procedures causing false negatives. I

had the same test done 4 years ago lying down in the morning after a fast, but I

was on bp medicines then too. It was normal. So frustrating!!

> >> > > >

> >> > > > I have been dealing with sudden blood pressure spikes, etc. for over

4 years now. Recently I had a sudden spike of blood pressure 195/98 with sudden

severe dizziness. I went to the ER and basically told it was anxiety. About 1

week later I picked up my medical records and learned that the CT scan (used to

rule our a blot clot in my lungs) showed a 1.32 cm adenoma and that I also had

blood in my urine. The ER doctor failed to tell me this. So I went to a

university hospital endocrinologist thinking that I would get better care. The

doctor suspected that I had a pheochromocytoma. That was ruled out with the

plasma metanephrine test. After almost 2 weeks he has told me that all the blood

tests that he took are normal. The aldosterone blood test from what I am reading

is susposed to be done in a lying down position, done after fasting over night,

& no ace inhibitor in your system. Well, I took lisinopril that morning, did not

fast, & was sitting up

> when I took the test about 6 p.m. I am having off and on pain in the

adrenal/kidney area & my kidneys seem to empty better at some times more than

others. Does the aldosterone test have to be done under the conditions that I

stated? The endocrinologist basically told me that I probably have anxiety

problems. So I am back to the beginning now in trying to find out what is wrong

with me. I am so ill most days that I am in bed a good part of the day & night.

I need some advice, please!!

> >> > > >

> >> > >

> >> >

> >> >

> >>

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Val,

Thanks for the information. I am just learning about AVS. Do most doctors do

this procedure when there is an adenoma on the adrenal gland? Four years ago my

testerone level was at the very highest level of normal. One year ago it was in

the middle of the normal range. As far as my ovaries, an ultrasound about 1

year ago was normal.

Glenda

> > > >

> > > > I have been dealing with sudden blood pressure spikes, etc. for over 4

> years now. Recently I had a sudden spike of blood pressure 195/98 with

> sudden severe dizziness. I went to the ER and basically told it was anxiety.

> About 1 week later I picked up my medical records and learned that the CT

> scan (used to rule our a blot clot in my lungs) showed a 1.32 cm adenoma and

> that I also had blood in my urine. The ER doctor failed to tell me this. So

> I went to a university hospital endocrinologist thinking that I would get

> better care. The doctor suspected that I had a pheochromocytoma. That was

> ruled out with the plasma metanephrine test. After almost 2 weeks he has

> told me that all the blood tests that he took are normal. The aldosterone

> blood test from what I am reading is susposed to be done in a lying down

> position, done after fasting over night, & no ace inhibitor in your system.

> Well, I took lisinopril that morning, did not fast, & was sitting up when I

> t ook the test about 6 p.m. I am having off and on pain in the

> adrenal/kidney area & my kidneys seem to empty better at some times more

> than others. Does the aldosterone test have to be done under the conditions

> that I stated? The endocrinologist basically told me that I probably have

> anxiety problems. So I am back to the beginning now in trying to find out

> what is wrong with me. I am so ill most days that I am in bed a good part of

> the day & night. I need some advice, please!!

>

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Dr. Grim,

Which article? I guess that just because my endocrinologist has been practicing

since about 1980 doesn't mean that he knows everything. I thought that I had an

experienced doctor. I hope that I have enough courage to take him the

information. I don't want to insult him in any way, but I do want answers and I

want to get well. Thanks for responding.

Glenda

> > > >

> > > > I have been dealing with sudden blood pressure spikes, etc. for

> > over 4 years now. Recently I had a sudden spike of blood pressure

> > 195/98 with sudden severe dizziness. I went to the ER and basically

> > told it was anxiety. About 1 week later I picked up my medical

> > records and learned that the CT scan (used to rule our a blot clot

> > in my lungs) showed a 1.32 cm adenoma and that I also had blood in

> > my urine. The ER doctor failed to tell me this. So I went to a

> > university hospital endocrinologist thinking that I would get better

> > care. The doctor suspected that I had a pheochromocytoma. That was

> > ruled out with the plasma metanephrine test. After almost 2 weeks he

> > has told me that all the blood tests that he took are normal. The

> > aldosterone blood test from what I am reading is susposed to be done

> > in a lying down position, done after fasting over night, & no ace

> > inhibitor in your system. Well, I took lisinopril that morning, did

> > not fast, & was sitting up when I took the test about 6 p.m. I am

> > having off and on pain in the adrenal/kidney area & my kidneys seem

> > to empty better at some times more than others. Does the aldosterone

> > test have to be done under the conditions that I stated? The

> > endocrinologist basically told me that I probably have anxiety

> > problems. So I am back to the beginning now in trying to find out

> > what is wrong with me. I am so ill most days that I am in bed a good

> > part of the day & night. I need some advice, please!!

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

NO

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of msmith_1928

Can they tell if it's " non-functioning " without

further testing, such as AVS?

>

> The endocrinologist told me that it appears to be a non-functioning

adenoma. One thing that I would like to add to my story is that my hirsutism is

getting worse (chin & upper lip) and a chiropractor said that I have

calcification on my thyroid. Several times in the last 2 weeks I have had pain

in my kidney area in the middle of the night & early mornings mostly with

it occasionally at other times.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Val, I didn't think so

> >

> > The endocrinologist told me that it appears to be a non-functioning

> adenoma. One thing that I would like to add to my story is that my hirsutism

> is getting worse (chin & upper lip) and a chiropractor said that I have

> calcification on my thyroid. Several times in the last 2 weeks I have had

> pain in my kidney area in the middle of the night & early mornings mostly

> with it occasionally at other times.

>

[Guest guest]

AVS is used for lateralization, i.e., which side adenoma is active. I guess

there are easier tests to make sure whether one or both are active.

Max.

|Thanks for the information. I am just learning about AVS. Do

|most doctors do this procedure when there is an adenoma on the

|adrenal gland? Four years ago my testerone level was at the

|very highest level of normal. One year ago it was in the

|middle of the normal range. As far as my ovaries, an

|ultrasound about 1 year ago was normal.

|

|Glenda

|

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yes you need to read my evolution of PA article and take to your team.On May 14, 2011, at 9:41 PM, Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote:Normal range doesn't mean much in PA. You can have Aldo in med range and renin at bottom end of normal. This would mean you have PA. > > > > >> > > > > I have been dealing with sudden blood pressure spikes, etc. for over 4 years now. Recently I had a sudden spike of blood pressure 195/98 with sudden severe dizziness. I went to the ER and basically told it was anxiety. About 1 week later I picked up my medical records and learned that the CT scan (used to rule our a blot clot in my lungs) showed a 1.32 cm adenoma and that I also had blood in my urine. The ER doctor failed to tell me this. So I went to a university hospital endocrinologist thinking that I would get better care. The doctor suspected that I had a pheochromocytoma. That was ruled out with the plasma metanephrine test. After almost 2 weeks he has told me that all the blood tests that he took are normal. The aldosterone blood test from what I am reading is susposed to be done in a lying down position, done after fasting over night, & no ace inhibitor in your system. Well, I took lisinopril that morning, did not fast, & was sitting up when I took the test about 6 p.m. I am having off and on pain in the adrenal/kidney area & my kidneys seem to empty better at some times more than others. Does the aldosterone test have to be done under the conditions that I stated? The endocrinologist basically told me that I probably have anxiety problems. So I am back to the beginning now in trying to find out what is wrong with me. I am so ill most days that I am in bed a good part of the day & night. I need some advice, please!!> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

But first you need other tests to suggest it is functioning.Then if PA and Sx cannot be controlled with DASH and MCBs then AVS. IMHO.CE Grim MDGlenda, if you are having HTN problems and you have an adenoma, without AVS, no one can tell if it is functioning or not. Hirsutism - PCOS??? Excess testosterone? Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Glenda The endocrinologist told me that it appears to be a non-functioning adenoma. One thing that I would like to add to my story is that my hirsutism is getting worse (chin & upper lip) and a chiropractor said that I have calcification on my thyroid. Several times in the last 2 weeks I have had pain in my kidney area in the middle of the night & early mornings mostly with it occasionally at other times.> > >> > > I have been dealing with sudden blood pressure spikes, etc. for over 4 years now. Recently I had a sudden spike of blood pressure 195/98 with sudden severe dizziness. I went to the ER and basically told it was anxiety. About 1 week later I picked up my medical records and learned that the CT scan (used to rule our a blot clot in my lungs) showed a 1.32 cm adenoma and that I also had blood in my urine. The ER doctor failed to tell me this. So I went to a university hospital endocrinologist thinking that I would get better care. The doctor suspected that I had a pheochromocytoma. That was ruled out with the plasma metanephrine test. After almost 2 weeks he has told me that all the blood tests that he took are normal. The aldosterone blood test from what I am reading is susposed to be done in a lying down position, done after fasting over night, & no ace inhibitor in your system. Well, I took lisinopril that morning, did not fast, & was sitting up when I t ook the test about 6 p.m. I am having off and on pain in the adrenal/kidney area & my kidneys seem to empty better at some times more than others. Does the aldosterone test have to be done under the conditions that I stated? The endocrinologist basically told me that I probably have anxiety problems. So I am back to the beginning now in trying to find out what is wrong with me. I am so ill most days that I am in bed a good part of the day & night. I need some advice, please!!Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use.

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Its your adrenal most likely PA.CE Grim MDVal,Thanks for the information. I am just learning about AVS. Do most doctors do this procedure when there is an adenoma on the adrenal gland? Four years ago my testerone level was at the very highest level of normal. One year ago it was in the middle of the normal range. As far as my ovaries, an ultrasound about 1 year ago was normal. Glenda> > > >> > > > I have been dealing with sudden blood pressure spikes, etc. for over 4> years now. Recently I had a sudden spike of blood pressure 195/98 with> sudden severe dizziness. I went to the ER and basically told it was anxiety.> About 1 week later I picked up my medical records and learned that the CT> scan (used to rule our a blot clot in my lungs) showed a 1.32 cm adenoma and> that I also had blood in my urine. The ER doctor failed to tell me this. So> I went to a university hospital endocrinologist thinking that I would get> better care. The doctor suspected that I had a pheochromocytoma. That was> ruled out with the plasma metanephrine test. After almost 2 weeks he has> told me that all the blood tests that he took are normal. The aldosterone> blood test from what I am reading is susposed to be done in a lying down> position, done after fasting over night, & no ace inhibitor in your system.> Well, I took lisinopril that morning, did not fast, & was sitting up when I> t ook the test about 6 p.m. I am having off and on pain in the> adrenal/kidney area & my kidneys seem to empty better at some times more> than others. Does the aldosterone test have to be done under the conditions> that I stated? The endocrinologist basically told me that I probably have> anxiety problems. So I am back to the beginning now in trying to find out> what is wrong with me. I am so ill most days that I am in bed a good part of> the day & night. I need some advice, please!!> > > Switch to:> <mailto:hyperaldosteronism-traditional ?subject=Change%20Deli> very%20Format:%20Traditional> Text-Only,> <mailto:hyperaldosteronism-digest ?subject=Email%20Delivery:%> 20Digest> Daily Digest .> <mailto:hyperaldosteronism-unsubscribe ?subject=Unsubscribe>> Unsubscribe . <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Use> .> > <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=7299303/grpspId=1705132763/msgId> =30746/stime=1305424558/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3>>

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You never insult your team by taking them a published article by an expert in the field.CE Grim MDDr. Grim,Which article? I guess that just because my endocrinologist has been practicing since about 1980 doesn't mean that he knows everything. I thought that I had an experienced doctor. I hope that I have enough courage to take him the information. I don't want to insult him in any way, but I do want answers and I want to get well. Thanks for responding.Glenda> > > >> > > > I have been dealing with sudden blood pressure spikes, etc. for > > over 4 years now. Recently I had a sudden spike of blood pressure > > 195/98 with sudden severe dizziness. I went to the ER and basically > > told it was anxiety. About 1 week later I picked up my medical > > records and learned that the CT scan (used to rule our a blot clot > > in my lungs) showed a 1.32 cm adenoma and that I also had blood in > > my urine. The ER doctor failed to tell me this. So I went to a > > university hospital endocrinologist thinking that I would get better > > care. The doctor suspected that I had a pheochromocytoma. That was > > ruled out with the plasma metanephrine test. After almost 2 weeks he > > has told me that all the blood tests that he took are normal. The > > aldosterone blood test from what I am reading is susposed to be done > > in a lying down position, done after fasting over night, & no ace > > inhibitor in your system. Well, I took lisinopril that morning, did > > not fast, & was sitting up when I took the test about 6 p.m. I am > > having off and on pain in the adrenal/kidney area & my kidneys seem > > to empty better at some times more than others. Does the aldosterone > > test have to be done under the conditions that I stated? The > > endocrinologist basically told me that I probably have anxiety > > problems. So I am back to the beginning now in trying to find out > > what is wrong with me. I am so ill most days that I am in bed a good > > part of the day & night. I need some advice, please!!> > > >> > >> >> >> >>

[Guest guest]

Called thinking about the problem and developing a testing plan.CE Grim MDAVS is used for lateralization, i.e., which side adenoma is active. I guessthere are easier tests to make sure whether one or both are active.Max.|Thanks for the information. I am just learning about AVS. Do |most doctors do this procedure when there is an adenoma on the |adrenal gland? Four years ago my testerone level was at the |very highest level of normal. One year ago it was in the |middle of the normal range. As far as my ovaries, an |ultrasound about 1 year ago was normal. ||Glenda|

[Guest guest]

The more I hear from all of you the more I want a second opinion (like Mayo

Clinic). I don't think I have enough nerve to tell the doctor that had me tested

that it was not done properly. And then if I do have to have further treatment,

what kind of treatment would I get?

> >

> > The endocrinologist told me that it appears to be a non-functioning

> adenoma. One thing that I would like to add to my story is that my hirsutism

> is getting worse (chin & upper lip) and a chiropractor said that I have

> calcification on my thyroid. Several times in the last 2 weeks I have had

> pain in my kidney area in the middle of the night & early mornings mostly

> with it occasionally at other times.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much!!

>

> > AVS is used for lateralization, i.e., which side adenoma is active.

> > I guess

> > there are easier tests to make sure whether one or both are active.

> >

> > Max.

> >

> > |Thanks for the information. I am just learning about AVS. Do

> > |most doctors do this procedure when there is an adenoma on the

> > |adrenal gland? Four years ago my testerone level was at the

> > |very highest level of normal. One year ago it was in the

> > |middle of the normal range. As far as my ovaries, an

> > |ultrasound about 1 year ago was normal.

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> > |Glenda

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[Guest guest]

Sorry I came across so negative towards drugs. If it weren't for

drugs my husband probably wouldn't be alive today. He had mantle cell lymphoma

& then leukemia (caused by a chemo unfortunately), but after 2 stem cell

transplants and many drugs he is cancer free and back at work. For me though,

it seems that I am super sensitive to everything I take. Every blood pressure

drug that I have taken has cause many problems. Guess I just haven't found the

right one yet.

And that is why I have in the past used herbs & supplements. I am just trying

to get better. I had never met a doctor like you, Dr. Grim, that pushed DASH or

had given me hope that my symptoms could be managed or cured. So,I am not

anti-drug or anti-doctor and I am sorry I have caused an uproar.

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> > > |> One reason that I am suspecting based on strange

> > > |observations is that

> > > |> PA patients are excellent category of guinea pig patients

> > > |for drug companies to experiment their new drugs. The doc

> > > |pretends not to have a clue of reason for patient's HTN and

> > > |tries all kinds of drugs on the poor patient knowing that none

> > > |would lower BP...and doc drags this until patient is in dire

> > > |need of either losing kidneys or heart failure and then

> > > |prescribes Spiro (earlier decades: Triamterene)...

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[Guest guest]

Never think you cause an uproar. It is how we all learn. Always look at herbs as

drugs. Some work as good or better then RX drugs. Some can kill you if you have

unknown health problems.

My mother was Bipolar So she had a social worker that came to see her. The

social worker husband was A Dr had one of his patients that he was treating for

high B/P no meds worked. He then asked the patient to list every thing they

were eating and drinking. Found out they were drinking a herbal tea that was

causing the high B/P.

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> > > > |> One reason that I am suspecting based on strange

> > > > |observations is that

> > > > |> PA patients are excellent category of guinea pig patients

> > > > |for drug companies to experiment their new drugs. The doc

> > > > |pretends not to have a clue of reason for patient's HTN and

> > > > |tries all kinds of drugs on the poor patient knowing that none

> > > > |would lower BP...and doc drags this until patient is in dire

> > > > |need of either losing kidneys or heart failure and then

> > > > |prescribes Spiro (earlier decades: Triamterene)...

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